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Jack is Leaving Permanently

Good luck Jack. I've enjoyed many of your posts and appreciated your time. This post of yours was my favorite: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=66359&p=311139&hilit=Alex+Jones#p311139
Hail Satan!
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
So you are just going to run and hide and pretend to be somebody else with a different name? All because a very small number of dumb NPCs are frequently ohh Veyying at you? This is just seeming ridiculous. An NPC will be always acting as an NPC regardless of what name is being used by you or by anybody else. Confused and unhealthy people are likely to resent you for explaining how their actions are unhealthy. Does this mean that you should stop trying? Maybe somebody hears some good advice 10 times and reacts badly to it 10 times because of not wanting to change, but then the 11th time actually starts to listen, and ends up being healed by it.

There are multiple thousands of people here, and it is a much smaller number of people who we commonly see participating. But the number of witnesses is much larger. If you are disagreeing with one person, and both of you are giving more information to show that your idea is right, there is a very large number of people who are seeing this and are learning from both of you. You give good information, the other person might also give some good information, and all the other people who are reading this can sort between what is useful and what is nonsense. And what if one of the pieces of information that comes from this argument is the exact missing piece that other people were requiring to unlock their own understandings and to help their own lives? This is very common.

This is why I am not opposed to an argument as long as both people have good intentions, and both people are trying to explain and provide further information and explanations. I don't care if the person I am talking to is likely to never agree with me. It is not entirely even about this other person. The real point of it is to use it as an opportunity to teach people, and help the people who see it. If the one person you are talking to will not understand you, but another 1,000 who are watching do understand you and do think that it is valuable.

I don't like that I made those some mistakes and some bad figures. Damn, I had to speak more consciously and I had to be more careful. Do you think I also need to abandon this account and create another one?
 
Jack you are an asshole, be more ethical and don't abuse power. How did you get so many comments, did you bewitch us?
 
It's mostly just 3 people that start the bickering with jack, and they're all very emotional people. Jack isn't infallible, but I'd rather have him than some whiny people who cry because Jack said something that is uncomfortable to them.
 
Lydia [JG said:
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SleepingWolf said:
Lydia [JG said:
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Making personas is something that some people who are only on the solar chakra level of development do, you see it often in real life.

People need to be real, authentic, and their true selves. This is part of advancing, and Satanism. Not personas.

Wait what does this mean? Are you saying people's development has to do with going up the chakras? It'd certainly make sense seeing the vast majority of new souls seem stuck only caring about their base instincts or lusts at best...

Where did you get this idea?

I "got this idea" through meditation. I learn a lot by meditating. Demons tell me things too while in meditation. (This is a simplified answer.)

And yes, people move up, they must master each level, and eventually master all.

However, some are stronger at higher levels yet have not mastered the lower. Think of women who have an open heart chakra, yet have no stability (Base). All chakras need to be mastered.

I just wanted to make sure, I've gotten a lot of ideas that way too, and that just makes me trust it more if that's the case.
I've wondered, I often get ideas where it feels like it's not even my thought, like there's no train of thought that led me there, just this flash of my brain figuring out something I never even connected before. I've had the suspicion this might be Demons just telling me the answer, is this what you mean by saying that's the simplified version? This has happened with greater frequency over the years, and especially while talking to others I've gotten to dedicate and meditate, as they often have questions I don't fully know the answer too, yet the moment they ask it's like I get a flash of thought connecting two or three other pieces of information I had memorized or maybe hadn't even thought about in years, but they connect in that moment and it's always surprising to me when that happens.

I wonder what it means to master them all exactly.
 
Lydia [JG said:
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Making personas is something that some people who are only on the solar chakra level of development do, you see it often in real life.

People need to be real, authentic, and their true selves. This is part of advancing, and Satanism. Not personas.

100% agreed.
 
Sunny said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
So you are just going to run and hide and pretend to be somebody else with a different name? All because a very small number of dumb NPCs are frequently ohh Veyying at you? This is just seeming ridiculous. An NPC will be always acting as an NPC regardless of what name is being used by you or by anybody else. Confused and unhealthy people are likely to resent you for explaining how their actions are unhealthy. Does this mean that you should stop trying? Maybe somebody hears some good advice 10 times and reacts badly to it 10 times because of not wanting to change, but then the 11th time actually starts to listen, and ends up being healed by it.

There are multiple thousands of people here, and it is a much smaller number of people who we commonly see participating. But the number of witnesses is much larger. If you are disagreeing with one person, and both of you are giving more information to show that your idea is right, there is a very large number of people who are seeing this and are learning from both of you. You give good information, the other person might also give some good information, and all the other people who are reading this can sort between what is useful and what is nonsense. And what if one of the pieces of information that comes from this argument is the exact missing piece that other people were requiring to unlock their own understandings and to help their own lives? This is very common.

This is why I am not opposed to an argument as long as both people have good intentions, and both people are trying to explain and provide further information and explanations. I don't care if the person I am talking to is likely to never agree with me. It is not entirely even about this other person. The real point of it is to use it as an opportunity to teach people, and help the people who see it. If the one person you are talking to will not understand you, but another 1,000 who are watching do understand you and do think that it is valuable.

I don't like that I made those some mistakes and some bad figures. Damn, I had to speak more consciously and I had to be more careful. Do you think I also need to abandon this account and create another one?

This whole "I need a new account" is just mostly bullshit, because it would be better for a person to change, rather than change an account and external behavior. This community is not "unforgiving". People have been journeying here for a long time, not changing any accounts or anything.
 
jrvan said:
Yeah, that was always the bait, wasn't it... "I have spiritual information that I'm going to keep teasing you with so I get away with everything teehee"

We can recover our lost cultures and knowledge without you because it lives in our souls, and I would rather learn from the Demons than some half baked Indian man who doesn't even meditate but thinks he's God. If you actually meditated then you would not be holding such stupid opinions after years and trying to shove them down everyone's throat, opinions which contradict and oppose what High Priest Zevios Metathronos has written in many of his sermons which I doubt you even read. You're still hung up on the issue of women after years so no you don't have a treasure trove of spiritual information. At best, your mind is very corrupted and full of anti-Satanic disinformation. All you've done is sow division here. You are a charlatan and nothing more.

At the start, I was one of those fools who got tricked by you because I wanted you to grow and evolve, and I thought you had potential. But I learned as time went on by observing you that it was just an illusion. You are such a massive disappointment and waste of time for everyone who tried to help you all these years, all of whom you arrogantly looked down on.

Go rot on your own. As you are, you will never shine like the sun. Hardly a phoenix. More like a stubborn cockroach.


lol hard on the paint

either way I thought jack was being real to himself and not trying to pretend to be someone he isn’t, shit, out of a thousand of places that you can arguably be a “persona” he chose this place? dumb move
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Sunny said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
So you are just going to run and hide and pretend to be somebody else with a different name? All because a very small number of dumb NPCs are frequently ohh Veyying at you? This is just seeming ridiculous. An NPC will be always acting as an NPC regardless of what name is being used by you or by anybody else. Confused and unhealthy people are likely to resent you for explaining how their actions are unhealthy. Does this mean that you should stop trying? Maybe somebody hears some good advice 10 times and reacts badly to it 10 times because of not wanting to change, but then the 11th time actually starts to listen, and ends up being healed by it.

There are multiple thousands of people here, and it is a much smaller number of people who we commonly see participating. But the number of witnesses is much larger. If you are disagreeing with one person, and both of you are giving more information to show that your idea is right, there is a very large number of people who are seeing this and are learning from both of you. You give good information, the other person might also give some good information, and all the other people who are reading this can sort between what is useful and what is nonsense. And what if one of the pieces of information that comes from this argument is the exact missing piece that other people were requiring to unlock their own understandings and to help their own lives? This is very common.

This is why I am not opposed to an argument as long as both people have good intentions, and both people are trying to explain and provide further information and explanations. I don't care if the person I am talking to is likely to never agree with me. It is not entirely even about this other person. The real point of it is to use it as an opportunity to teach people, and help the people who see it. If the one person you are talking to will not understand you, but another 1,000 who are watching do understand you and do think that it is valuable.

I don't like that I made those some mistakes and some bad figures. Damn, I had to speak more consciously and I had to be more careful. Do you think I also need to abandon this account and create another one?

This whole "I need a new account" is just mostly bullshit, because it would be better for a person to change, rather than change an account and external behavior. This community is not "unforgiving". People have been journeying here for a long time, not changing any accounts or anything.

In fact, it does not make much sense, except in rare cases. I will keep this account.
 
Yes, there is no reason to change an account. If you had mistakes before, and you change your account name, all anybody remembers is that person was making mistakes and then they ran away. When you could just stay and show everybody that you got better. What message is better to show? Leaving, or improving?


For all of the people who have been here for years, and I can not think of even one person who never made mistakes. I made a lot of mistakes too. But we are still here, and we all got a lot better.


You will see a pattern with people making topics just to announce they are leaving. Probably 98% of the time it is some infiltrator troll who has never posted any comments anyway, and only makes the fake topic saying they are leaving to purposefully try to make it look like everybody is leaving from here. Actually it is only even 1 or 2 trolls that keep making new accounts just to immediately ask for them to be deleted.

And maybe 2% of the time it is an actual member who is only trying to stir shit up and just trying to get attention and be overly dramatic. Asking in a big public way to leave, when they have no plans to leave anyway.

Either way it is ridiculous and there really is no reason for it. A person who wants to leave will leave, and a person who wants to stay will stay, and there is nothing that needs to be said by anybody about it. These people need to find something in their life to pay attention to them.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Aquarius said:
It's mostly just 3 people that start the bickering with jack, and they're all very emotional people. Jack isn't infallible, but I'd rather have him than some whiny people who cry because Jack said something that is uncomfortable to them.
Wow jack called someone a retard on the internet WHAT A BADASS!!!!!! ! !! !!!

WHAT AN ALPHA MALE BRO HE INSULTED SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET WOW! !! !!!!!!

HE TYPED SOME MEAN WORDS TO SOMEONE ON AN ANONYMOUS FORUM! !! !! PEAK MASCULINITY !! !!!

You people need to wake up to reality. A kid insulting people online isn't manly. Any scrawny loser with a keyboard can do this. This is pathetic beta behavior, and obviously compensating for something.

You insult people all the time lol.
 
Lydia [JG said:
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SleepingWolf said:
Lydia [JG said:
" post_id=362234 time=1654335887 user_id=57]
Making personas is something that some people who are only on the solar chakra level of development do, you see it often in real life.

People need to be real, authentic, and their true selves. This is part of advancing, and Satanism. Not personas.

Wait what does this mean? Are you saying people's development has to do with going up the chakras? It'd certainly make sense seeing the vast majority of new souls seem stuck only caring about their base instincts or lusts at best...

Where did you get this idea?

I "got this idea" through meditation. I learn a lot by meditating. Demons tell me things too while in meditation. (This is a simplified answer.)

And yes, people move up, they must master each level, and eventually master all.

However, some are stronger at higher levels yet have not mastered the lower. Think of women who have an open heart chakra, yet have no stability (Base). All chakras need to be mastered.

Could you explain how this does affect the person (open hearth, no stabel base)?
 
Fuchs said:
Could you explain how this does affect the person (open hearth, no stabel base)?

If you have an unbalanced soul that makes you too willing to blend your emotions and identity with others, then that will reflect in your chakras in this manner. Someone could have a weak Saturn and strong Venus, in their natal chart, or other aspects that promote this situation.

Lydia used a woman in her example because the female gender is stronger with upper chakra abilities, whereas men are stronger with lower chakra abilities. So it is more likely one may see a woman in that position as described above. Conversely, a man may be too untrusting, rigid, or unempathetic towards others.

The base chakra rules grounding, discipline, and endurance, associated with Saturn. The heart rules harmony, love, and balance, and is associated with other Venusian characteristics.
 
Fanboy said:
Jack said:
The persona that I've created on the forums has outlived its usefulness. It's become extremely polarizing. I'm not going to ask anyone to delete any of my comments because they are there for you to read. However I have decided to come back under a different persona. A different attitude that won't be so polarizing. And finally clean the hatred of some of my friends who have come to hate for a variety of misguided reasons. I cannot change your perception and I understand that.

I have in my holding a treasure trove of spiritual information. I don't have the time to read and categorize it. It will take some time but in the next persona I come here ,I won't be talking about politics and social issues. I'll only be talking about spirituality.

I'm going to a different country in a couple of months. I'm going to shed this persona.

Like a Phoenix burns And transforms itself.

I don't apologize or take back anything for which I haven't apologized or taken back. I absolutely believe in what I'm Saying and I absolutely believe that I'm right. And if you are like me you also have the same beliefs as me. There is no point in pointless endless discussions.

It's about self Preservation now.

The war is out there. The only way is through.

The only person whose looking out for you in Lord Satan and yourself. And if you don't look out for yourself, then you're fucked.

Believe in yourself. Make a decision that you're going to ascend to the top of the socioeconomic ladder. Use magick to find ways. Dont stop. Keep moving forward. Self the existence of your future children.

May you be victorious and come back.

That is all.

"For the Glory of all Humanity. "

Hail Satan !!! Hail Sat, Satya, Satanama, Satanas!!!

All you do is spread bigotry, and misogyny.
You and your friends constantly advocated infant euthanasia, hypnosis therapy, electric shock therapy, torture, and execution for transgenders.

Since January 18th 2021 you and your friends have bullied 4 trans girls (that I counted) away from the Joyofsatan.

You are a non meditator and have never assisted anyone spiritually on these forums.

You contributed to the bullying and harassment of dozens of blood dedicated Satanists over the years and contributed to many of them giving up on the path and turning to drugs and alcohol. Some of my personal friends and family included.

Alongside the old priesthood who routinely abused their authority, ganged up on newbies and beginners calling them many names and creating a hostile unwelcome atmosphere for the jos.

I would take some time to remind you of the beauty, the love and the joy that Satan brings to all of us and the invaluable bond of brother and sisterhood that we share through him. But you have only dishonored the joy of Satan with your narcissism. To stare into your own reflection yet still be unable to see who you are must be extremely distressing.

I hope you can find a way to live a life of substance, and true significance somehow. Although for a person who lived for years feeding off the sense of superiority from bullying vulnerable people on the internet, I doubt you will.

Satan gives and takes power according to the characteristics of each epoch, this is his age and truely free Pagans who remember to honor him in all things will recieve the power and the fortune.

Good luck Jack, you reminded me alot of my evil father. I'm sure there is some goodness hiding inside you, just like the mysterious and unapologetic zeus.

I hope you and your girlfriend are doing good. Stay close and cherish her. Do what you can to redeem yourself so that the Gods don't punish you with a transgender first born.

On the other hand of this, you could accept that transgenderism doesn't exist. If you want to keep believing in it, that's your choice but no experience meditator, no advanced person and no Deity will ever tell you it is. Depending on how advanced they are, they may help the person suffering from those issues to overcome them.

Anyway, we all now what this and most of your posts on this forum are. After all, you have it in your signature. "Gaslight", something you do all the time to HP Zevios and others, and after that you claim you were just joking. This is is a type of negative behaviour I encountered the most among toxic masculine circles. Healthy masculine circles don't have people who gaslight. Much of this is in the military and sports team from peers who don't know any better. Maybe a change of perspective is needed here. Have you ever thought about how to interact healthily with other people, a sense of humour that doesn't gaslight people?
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Fuchs said:
Could you explain how this does affect the person (open hearth, no stabel base)?

If you have an unbalanced soul that makes you too willing to blend your emotions and identity with others, then that will reflect in your chakras in this manner. Someone could have a weak Saturn and strong Venus, in their natal chart, or other aspects that promote this situation.

Lydia used a woman in her example because the female gender is stronger with upper chakra abilities, whereas men are stronger with lower chakra abilities. So it is more likely one may see a woman in that position as described above. Conversely, a man may be too untrusting, rigid, or unempathetic towards others.

The base chakra rules grounding, discipline, and endurance, associated with Saturn. The heart rules harmony, love, and balance, and is associated with other Venusian characteristics.

Thank you Blitzkreig.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Stormblood said:

Well you're right I pay more attention than most people. You probably don't read everything, but I try to read everything. So I've seen it in all its names.

You're right. I only skim through most posts. I only read what I feel a pull to read and obviously the people who already established a value.
 
You guys give these clowns too much credit. As far as I can tell there's been very few of these creatures that actually managed to do any damage to the group. Which would actually classify as "infiltrators".

OWP was something incredibly precious for example because the reality is this doesn't even classify as infiltration. This person just wasted hundreds of hours of their life only to culminate in accomplishing absolutely nothing besides being laughed at for being a loser and kicked out. Would you really consider this "infiltration"?

It's more retardation than infiltration.


Actual infiltration would require for there to have been any actual damage to the group or JoS. Being a clown and being an infiltrator isn't the same thing. I rather enjoy some of the clowns. Delusional people are funny to listen to.
 
Aquarius said:
My my, look at who has a persecution syndrome... there was one particular race of beings that are known for having it too.

The context of you saying this makes the confusion of this other post even funnier: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=364925#p364925

"Why is my soul different from yours??" lol
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Aquarius said:
My my, look at who has a persecution syndrome... there was one particular race of beings that are known for having it too.

The context of you saying this makes the confusion of this other post even funnier: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=364925#p364925

"Why is my soul different from yours??" lol
:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Jack said:
The persona that I've created on the forums has outlived its usefulness. It's become extremely polarizing. I'm not going to ask anyone to delete any of my comments because they are there for you to read. However I have decided to come back under a different persona. A different attitude that won't be so polarizing. And finally clean the hatred of some of my friends who have come to hate for a variety of misguided reasons. I cannot change your perception and I understand that.

I have in my holding a treasure trove of spiritual information. I don't have the time to read and categorize it. It will take some time but in the next persona I come here ,I won't be talking about politics and social issues. I'll only be talking about spirituality.

I'm going to a different country in a couple of months. I'm going to shed this persona.

Like a Phoenix burns And transforms itself.

I don't apologize or take back anything for which I haven't apologized or taken back. I absolutely believe in what I'm Saying and I absolutely believe that I'm right. And if you are like me you also have the same beliefs as me. There is no point in pointless endless discussions.

It's about self Preservation now.

The war is out there. The only way is through.

The only person whose looking out for you in Lord Satan and yourself. And if you don't look out for yourself, then you're fucked.

Believe in yourself. Make a decision that you're going to ascend to the top of the socioeconomic ladder. Use magick to find ways. Dont stop. Keep moving forward. Self the existence of your future children.

May you be victorious and come back.

That is all.

"For the Glory of all Humanity. "

Hail Satan !!! Hail Sat, Satya, Satanama, Satanas!!!

Jack, I think everyone knew what you were doing all along. But you showed times, where your true self came through. Like when you wrote a post about experiencing Satan. I feel bad about any stupid stuff we had in the past. I don't care about any of that anymore. You are a great guy, I wish you the best.
 

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