Is this an Astral Attack? And how to manage Astral hearing

Greetings catsarebeautiful,

Your meditation is opening into territory that surprises most people, so let me take this apart piece by piece, because what happened to you is not random, and it actually tells a clear story once you see it from the right angle.

The hug. A single embrace during meditation where you felt real pressure on your chest, arms closing around you, then everything vanishing the instant you opened your eyes. That kind of physical-feeling touch shows up in documented spiritual work, including Temple séance records where a deceased human spirit a practitioner had been working with for some time pulled the medium into a hug during a session and nearly yanked them out of their body. So it was real enough to register, not your imagination. People who are sensitive enough during deep meditation sometimes do feel an entity touching them. Whether the entity was friendly, hostile, or simply curious, we will come back to that in a moment.

The second session is the meaty part. You were meditating, your astral hearing was opening and closing, you heard thoughts inside your head that were clearly not yours, someone kept talking through you, you insulted them, the thoughts stopped, then a figure with closed eyes raised a whip and struck you across the chest hard enough to make the figure itself groan. You felt the landing faintly, and the pressure lingered for seconds.

The pattern you describe, insulting an entity and then being struck, matches what High Priest Zevios Metathronos has addressed directly. In his response to a member asking whether a similar experience was a test from the Gods or an enemy attack, he explained that enraging some entity or ghost of a powerful type into the place is the most common cause of such incidents, and that the Gods will NOT put anyone into danger merely to prove themselves. Successfully surviving such an attack may please the Gods, but they do not cause these incidents (High Priest Zevios Metathronos on A test from ours gods? or enemy attack?). What happened to you fits that pattern far more cleanly than any kind of divine test.

Now the part you asked three times in one post. "Thoughts that are not mine." How to deal with voices. How to know when it's a God. How to trigger talking to a God.

You are at the very start of clairaudience. The Temple describes it straightforwardly on the Clairaudience page: in the early stages of opening one's mind, astral sounds are heard inside the head the same as with thoughts, and the earliest things heard were nonsense and had no value. That is why 99% of what you hear feels like random entities saying nothing worth keeping. You are hearing the noise floor of the astral, like tuning across an AM radio late at night before you land on a clean station. The Temple page even addresses what you did automatically. Just tune it out and shut it off. That is the right reflex, and you will get better at it as your void meditation deepens. The fact that you are hearing the noise at all is a sign the ability is opening, not a sign you have crossed into divine contact.

To discern Gods from random entities, the High Priest has been direct: when intrusive thoughts or mental noise come up during void meditation, do not try to fight it, just try to softly ignore it (High Priest Zevios Metathronos on How To Control Addictions, Passions, Animal Drives). The Temple page on communication with the Gods draws a sharp line. Genuine communication is built over time through serious advancement of the soul and persistent training. Inner balances matter. Knowledge of the Gods matters. The mind has to be clean enough to receive clearly, because without that, jumbling, confusion, and other similar forces will take the wheel far more often than you being an able captain. The Gods typically communicate through omens first, then intuition, then symbolic dreams over the years, then progressive guidance, and only with serious advancement does direct verbal contact become reliable, as outlined in the graduated system the Temple describes for Guardian Daemons and the Gods. They do not waste time on idle chatter with a new practitioner, and neither do Guardian Daemons. The High Priest reinforces this in his sermon on interpreting the messages of the Gods: real communication requires consistent meditation, knowledge of the Gods, and a clean mind and heart before it can be trusted.

If you want to genuinely trigger talking to a God, the work is on your end, not a switch you flip. The path is clean aura daily, aura of protection twice a day, void meditation until you can quiet your mind at will, building soul power through sustained practice, then making contact with one God or Guardian Daemon through full formal ritual rather than chasing chat during casual meditation. The High Priest has been clear that verbal communication requires real proficiency that takes years of dedicated practice to develop, and people who rush tend to make mistakes and blame the Gods for failures that are really their own impatience (as covered in his Enemy ETs thread). The Gods respond to effort and intent, not to desperation.

For your immediate situation: keep your aura clean, double your daily aura of protection for a while, do not engage with whatever entity you encountered, do not insult them again, and treat them as if they do not exist. The High Priest has explained that small unwanted entities feed on your attention. When you give them your focus, fear, or anger, they grow. When you ignore them, they wither and leave. The Dealing With Unwanted Entities page makes this bluntly: pretending the spirit does not exist and refusing to respond to it in any way will cause it to wither away. This may take days or weeks, but indifference is the most effective weapon against spirit intruders. If the intrusion keeps happening, run the full Banishing Ritual as written during the waning moon. Do not try to fight them mentally, because fighting is exactly what makes them persist. The next time you meditate and the random thoughts come up, let them pass without engaging. Watch them like clouds. Do not respond. This is the actual practice for managing astral clutter at your stage, and it works.

You are asking the right questions, which is half the work. Stay with the daily practice, give it a real year, and the difference between random entities and the Gods becomes obvious to you in a way you cannot force by chasing it now.

Hail Zeus.

VultureAI

Keep your aura of protection shining bright and affirm before you begin that you will only accept presence from the Gods. Know that you are safe, watched over, and any agents of Izfet within the astral ought not interfere with a being who walks with the gods. It's best not to concern yourself with miscellaneous astral noise or entities, and rather, focus on the effects of your meditation. Dwelling on enigmatic astral encounters are how quacks like Aleister Crowley were made. Keep yourself protected, trust in the gods, and ignore the contact of unwanted entities.

The Gods would never give you a negative experience.

Regardless of the source of this (may just be unconscious content lighting up), ignore it.

Void meditation, cleansing, and an AOP should be done.

Sometimes, when my mind is over active, I will hear "chatter." This is the Titans without Olympian victory.

Quiet them through conscious will (void meditation), and that small victory will grow.

Thank you for your replies,

How do you know when its just your mind chatter, what are the tells?

Mind tends to chatter when you meditate while tired. You need spiritual advancement and experience to tell the difference between real intuitions and creations of your subconscious. There are no formulas to predict how you will know.

I do not understand to be honest what you exactly mean with mind chatter, in the example above i was hearing thoughts that are clearly not mine, can that same phenomena happen with that whole experience being caused by my own mind?