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Ideas on how to psychically harvest energy from the vaccinated?

NakedPluto said:
tabby said:


The concept of right and wrong was never created by xianity, never possessed or attainment of their doctrines. This is like saying that the apple was created by some fictitious fairies, like, I don’t know this is so absurd.

What they did was use the nature of the human against the human, implicitly by the error that the mind can have when it is not sustained by the spiritual higher mind.

As I already said, right and wrong are values that come as a function of the process of understanding, the concepts in themselves being from the duality of all things that exist. Good and bad, right and wrong, happy and sad, one and zero.

Being it is either ignored on a conscious level, such as being against it on the mental process, it does not matter truly, as the mind by default has these valences of duality, and it uses these to open the line of thoughts implicit of their categorization.

This seed of corruption bears fruit such as everything and everyone is equal and other mind absurdities that are not true, and do not work as the living beings and nature of things are just like that, dual.

The enemy loves the concept of hive-mind, singularity. In this realm of discussion, you can see the above, such as right and wrong doesn’t exist, create the input needed for the mind to obey without discernment.

In the bible, when the human took the apple, it was said that it suddenly received the conscience, the discernment between right and wrong. Meaning from the sleeping/judge-less/borg they attained human quality and higher capacities from Satan, suddenly, as this implies and is in a direct relationship, they received free will. Free will comes with the freedom of seeing, analyzation, and judgment coupled with awareness and consciousness.
Right and wrong are values that which the mind uses to harbor and make decisions, to have free will.

Now I know what you are referring to about these, however, it has nothing to do with it. You are referring to the lack of awareness, critique and analyzation this right and wrong may ensue, but this is false. As I already said this is the background, the opened and the closer. This was used only as a closer by the enemy. This is wrong, don’t do that. But this quality of thought implies also provocative thought. It comes naturally the question Why, regardless.

So the premise is already defeated, that these values and concepts are limiting and slaving weapons of the mind. Instead, they are thought-provoking stimulants, and motives of analysis, in which knowledge can assert in the mind and have value of attention from the consciousness.

What is even funnier, is that this argument coupled with Jrvan arguments, are on the same structure of the sheep argument, reversed. It is the same effort when you tried to delimit the natural animal sheep from nature from the metaphorical use of it of the enemy. Try to think the same you did with the sheep, now with the above concepts.

If we want to complexify, we can say that causally determined wills are not free wills, and have a discussion upon theological corruptions upon the mind. But to what benefit?

The other things that you stated have nothing to do with this discussion of ethics and morality, rather are confused and correct observations attached to the wrong inputs and outputs. One can advance the rational mind and be extremely empathic at the same time, there’s nothing that would invalidate themselves of this kind. The rest may come in advancement, again nothing inherently wrong, but not right as well, only much needed advancement is due to form factual observations and not opinions before promoting them, especially to the youth.

Study Nietzsche, as he entered the realm of nihilism to provoke the thought and lethargy of the mind while giving anchors to overcome it, and told and structured doctorates around the philosophy of the higher mind and all of these transformative stages of the mind.

That particular comment of mine was not meant to be coupled totally with jrvan's. It was a separate mental exercise relaying my personal experiences and thoughts on the concept, since I felt it fits with the subject at hand. We condemn those with a different opinion or way of doing things simply because we think our own are right. Energy ripping is deemed wrong and so anyone no matter the purpose of why and how they use it is bashed for it, despite the fact that this magickal tool itself isn't actually wrong to use. People just believe it is because of who they associate it with and lacking knowledge about energy ripping. If we put "right" and "wrong" above truth, then lies are allowed to fester and turn things into chaos when people decide what they believe is meant to be right and others wrong, and use that to judge people poorly or enforce harmful laws upon others. That's partially why this topic is such a negative one because people insist they are right and condemn Dahaarkan, and those like myself and jrvan for simply using the tools we are given to deal with certain people. After being in a few fights myself and unpleasant life experiences, the patterns are always the same - someone either on one side or both believes in totality that they are right and the other is wrong without regard for what is actual true, and for those who are quite horrible people use that concept to justify horrible actions such as brainwashing and manipulating children and young adults to do your dirty work for you.

Truth is solid and is unquestionable, because if you are not following truth you are following lies. But with right and wrong, anyone can decided what right and wrong is based on how things affect them and others. It's easily corrupted and twisted, but truth never changes and lies are always lies.

The concept works and is useful only if the society isn't out of alignment with truth. Otherwise people with a head on their shoulders have to go the extra mile to teach others what is or isn't acceptable to do, but that doesn't guarantee people will retain those teachings when placed among different groups of people. A child can grow up with upstanding morals and become corrupted just because they fell into the wrong crowd. That's what happens without truth and spirituality.

People who either need to or can believe there is inherent good and inherent evil, they are free to. I don't believe that completely getting rid of right and wrong for everyone is an appropriate stance to take because most can't live without other peoples rules guiding them. But lessen the judgment on those who know just a little too much of the darker side of life and have had to choose between being right and good, or surviving. I broke the concept for myself because it does me no good, I only want to know what the truth is and obey it, and decide my actions accordingly with the full weight of what those actions are ingrained into my awareness. I have no use for a concept that nearly killed me.
 
Aquarius said:
Henu the Great said:
over personal development of invoking and transmuting energy from cleaner sources.
Leaving aside any moral argument, this is the most important point, it simply makes no sense, what literally goes on in the mind of an SS who prefers leeching instead of using the extremely powerful solar energy?

Well that’s the thing I tried to explain earlier but people either don’t care or don’t want to listen.

You guys assume this is the only thing one is using to advance but that is clearly not the case, and this argument is becoming annoyingly repetitive. The argument can be broken down into two things - 1) why not use meditation instead of witchcraft? and 2) blatant bias and ignorance. We all meditate and use the same methods you guys use to advance. We’re not stupid. You need power, meditation and a practiced hand to do ripping in the first place without harming yourself.

We have decided to take things in our own hands to deal with certain people who are withouts by using this form of magick, but for whatever reason you believe what you want to believe, which is that we’re all very very scummy bad people, instead of listening.

To assume that all we do is rip and take to advance highlights how little people understand not only what Dahaarkan, jrvan and I do with this method but also the tool itself. We are advancing with the same methods you guys are, and choose to use witchcraft. I fail to see what the problem with that is. You fear what you don’t understand so learn about it properly.

Dahaarkan said he’s making a post to address it so more will be explained on his part. As for jrvan and I, we’re getting back at the people who wronged us and taking back what belongs to us plus extra to deal some needed justice because believe me, no one is going to do it for us. I take what belongs to me and him, we don’t need the energy of monsters, so I direct that elsewhere.

We don’t touch other SS, and we don’t touch innocent people. There’s too much fear and bias clouding your judgements because psychic vampirism and energy ripping is associated with the enemy, so you look down on those who use the same tool even if it’s for different purposes. You condemn it period despite it being a magickal tool taught on JoS. It’s not something to fool around with and it is not a meditation for advancement. Dahaarkan has already explained it can supplement (IF you know what you’re doing), but will not be at all as powerful as a money working. I hope people can get over their dislike and understand that.
 
tabby said:
Aquarius said:
Henu the Great said:
over personal development of invoking and transmuting energy from cleaner sources.
Leaving aside any moral argument, this is the most important point, it simply makes no sense, what literally goes on in the mind of an SS who prefers leeching instead of using the extremely powerful solar energy?

[...]

As for jrvan and I, we’re getting back at the people who wronged us and taking back what belongs to us plus extra to deal some needed justice because believe me, no one is going to do it for us. I take what belongs to me and him, we don’t need the energy of monsters, so I direct that elsewhere.

We don’t touch other SS, and we don’t touch innocent people. There’s too much fear and bias clouding your judgements because psychic vampirism and energy ripping is associated with the enemy, so you look down on those who use the same tool even if it’s for different purposes. You condemn it period despite it being a magickal tool taught on JoS. It’s not something to fool around with and it is not a meditation for advancement. Dahaarkan has already explained it can supplement (IF you know what you’re doing), but will not be at all as powerful as a money working. I hope people can get over their dislike and understand that.

if that's what you are doing (taking back what's yours and not what belongs to others), that's the same as one of the options I suggested earlier and not the same as what Dahaarkan stated. Dahaarkan stated he takes everything for himself. It is also different from what jrvan has been arguing against me (that theft isn't wrong).

As for ways of getting back what belongs to you, that is not what I have been interested in arguing when I mentioned the clown.
 
Stormblood said:
So you do lack reading comprehension skills too, uh? Or are you here on an agenda?

Dahaarkan is advocating stealing from someone who has done nothing to them and keeping everything to themselves, becoming the new thief.

I am advocating the wealth to be distributed to those it legitimately belongs to, which is something he could do as well but he doesn't upon his own admission.

At this point you are just here to troll, so I will not take you seriously. I will leave to NakedPluto the arguing with you two clowns, as my patience has now run thin.


Yes stormblood, everybody who doesn't blindly bow to you, validate you and worship you, and has the AUDACITY of having their own thoughts, moral code and beliefs that differ from yours, have an agenda and ulterior motive.

Sorry to break it to you but this isn't a hivemind, and we're not obligated to agree with you or accept your words as if they came from Satan himself.


All you've done in this thread is made a complete clown of yourself, had a little piss on the floor and cried that everybody who doesn't agree with and obey you has an agenda. And it always comes down to boasting about your status on the forums, every time, it comes down to you proclaiming superiority over other Satanists, constantly crying about this.

Superiority is self evident and requires no verbal explanation. You've done good things and helped many, but evidently did so for rotten reasons. The intent is just to serve your own ego and build up imaginary status which you then weaponize against other Satanists to intimidate and dominate until they submit to your beliefs and rules on how they should live their lives.

I am immune to your insect-level attempts at degradation, but you will not selfishly demoralize other Satanists and devalue their contributions to the cause. And if we're talking of time wasting gangs, review your own activity here, you dishonest rat.

All I've done on this thread is defend myself from you and your little dipshit friends who want to play god on the forums and talk down to other members. I didn't come after any of you, I simply replied to you all and defended myself, which you're not used to so you have these little breakdowns and delusional rants.

And you hate me because I'm not intimidated by your little mafia and I'm not afraid to defend myself from your pathetic desperate attacks. And yes, after I exposed to the entire forums how dishonest and delusional you actually are, you just scurry away saying you have no more patience.

And you expect me to believe you've done any growth over the years. You've only degraded. You and this little mafia you're a part of have had it your way for too long and it shows, you're too comfortable being arrogant, rude and disrespectful to other people because they never talk back. Well I've just proved to everybody that they don't have to take this kind of abuse from you and your friends.

You have nothing left. So now you're weaponizing the trust that HC put in you, and the beautiful things you've accomplished, in a childish, final desperate attempt to appear superior in this pointless argument which YOU STARTED.

You were given a privilege to better serve Satan, not to serve your egos and degrade other people and devalue their contributions. You were trusted and given this tool to better serve Satan, and what you choose to do with it is beat your chest like an ape and proclaim superiority over your fellow Satanists, and weaponize it to bully and harass them into submitting to your beliefs and desires.

You disgust me. That is all. Now scurry away like the rat you are.
 
You are arguing on something that has been the object of arguing for all philosophers in the past as it were, and in the end of the day, people apply what they see fit in their own level of advancement, power and judgement.

From an objective standpoint, nobody can really be "limited" in a physical or mental way from doing something. That's nature.

The only way to accurately see and justify taking or not taking action, comes from evidence, necessity, true sight [developed in late stages of meditation etc], and one can still choose how they want to behave. There is no given imposition on how you should behave, but how you behave comes with outcomes for good or bad.

Between preaching a solution and what is right and moral, and applied morality [the thing that can truly be used in a situation], there is always the gap of life, spirituality, awareness etc. Since not everyone is in the same situation, there is no singular way to enforce a view of judgement of things. People have to be partakers of a similar consciousness in the very least for this to occur.

It is pointless to prolong this argument to the point of character attacks between one another as the above has been the final objective of philosophy, and extends beyond merely written situations.

Between the two pillars of the soul, one of which is about judgement and another is about forgiveness or kindness, the balance is instated only when the higher pillar of the soul [the 3rd eye] is properly activated. In this case, judgement becomes an ability of a person, and from there on, one can decide their route of action based on their power and capacity.

There should be not these serious arguments between Spiritual Satanists over these subjects unless what is said extremely violates everything the JoS says. The JoS doesn't tell you to not harm anyone, it tells you to have responsibility for the responsible and to try to be justice oriented in judgement.

Also the first immediate question should be what one espouses for other SS, which are valuable beings that try to advance. In this case, the approach of most matters cannot be the ultimate same between those inside and those without.
 
tabby said:

You are arguing that because you where programmed and abused by the doctrines of the enemy, by the process of programming upon the mind, you now deny the process itself, and try to erase it, being the problem, and also deny the mind, being the problem, associating the problems by the enemy with the nature itself, the mechanism of the mind, the process of the brain. On analogy, because you ate a bad apple and you became ill, next time you’ll never eat anymore, because one time it made you ill by the process of eating. The mind in an instrument, not a cause in itself.
The fact that something can be manipulated to bear positive fruits and at the same time negative fruits, doesn’t mean it is not working correctly. You attribute the conclusions to the wrong ends, hence the confusion and incapacity to correct these.

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All of this arguing on you don’t know how it is on the dark side and other dramatic theories is pointless to me and the subject at hand. I had moments in life with the target and mission to press the trigger, I had a lot of lives in my hand on decisions of great consequences, other hidden, choices of death and life, tribulations and obstacles most would never imagine, and everything sat upon these discussions that I gave platform now to converse, yet ignored by the comfort of “my experience” is higher/lower than yours, without giving response to the actual arguments that are guides and basis for everything.

I did not seek to correct the source of these, aka yourselves, neither condemn or pinpoint on the premise of correction, but on the opposite by discussing to emphasize the future of these and give perspective and depth in order for better information and guidance in these, in which the actual help would arrive.

Draining for the above purpose is not possible this way, promoted it as doing something else than what actually happens, with no actual use of real growth. I refuse to virtue signal things, but it seems these are requested even if the grosser denying of this is taking place. Physic vampirism has other uses than draining, draining being the modality of it’s accomplishment. It is overly misrepresented, being just a simple aspect of the manipulation and a direction. Nothing else. All of this mystifying and sympathy comes from idolatry, and the tendency to sympathize with cult ideologies.

The whole argument of everything that was presented to me, was a defense of the self, and not the process of thought, the effects, and the consequences, things that are necessary for judgment ultimately for this purpose, but only a reactive opinion. All is fine, but this concludes confusion, and no real value to be presented neither.

Because everything came to name-calling and another show for the delight of the jew, even with the above tries to attempt an elaborate discussion, I will have to cease these, as from a positive input it slowly turns in decaying reactions which I will not entertain. I was hoping for an ethical discussion and argumentation, as a transformative process from the “vampirism and you no you” without any basis, it seems it didn’t work. Academic argumentation isn't idealistic.

From my part, all can do what they want, and truly no one stopped you. The fact that it is argued that someone has a right to react and give opinion on this, is absurd, more so that it is associated with the status on the forum. What? I am disappointed that people do not want to be told what the negatives and future of actions are, just like xians, and revolt upon input regardless of it’s intensity. Might as well shut the fuck up and not talk about it since talking about it is a problem by the other's inputs.

The aim of this forum is to discuss, argument and propose better ideals and realities unto people, not to turn everything in personal things. From the personal we had a chance to go into the impersonal and discuss these philosophies.
 
Stormblood said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, I do not want to misrepresent what you were saying. But in that other topic a few weeks ago, what you were advocating was for rich or successful people who own large houses, or who own multiple houses, to have their houses taken away from them. Because if they were able to make that much money, you assume it must have been in some kind of an immoral way that had some negative effects on other people. Or even just for the reason that it is "unfair" for some people to have a big house while other people have no house.


You advocated that the person and their family should be forcibly removed from their home or homes, so that other people who have less money can be moved into those homes. And the family who it was taken from, they will be put into a very small house because that's all they need. And you seriously and honestly meant this when you were saying it.


So where does this fit with the pattern of justice you are talking about in this topic? Forcefully stealing a home away from an innocent family, putting other people into that home. And the people moving in were never harmed by the person who actually owned the house.
 
jrvan said:
No, I'm arguing that theft isn't wrong in every single situation. You're a moral absolutist

So, when I told you that you can take action against someone who robbed you, what was I saying exactly, in your opinion?

Here's the reference, so you can re-read it:
Stormblood said:
[...]
Option 3:

:arrow: All wronged families take action together against Joe.
:arrow: All wronged families recover what it's owed to them, and deal with Joe within the limits of the law.
[...]

Also, do you know what theft means?

Basic definition of theft.

(1)A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it; and “thief” and “steal” shall be construed accordingly.

Source: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/crossheading/definition-of-theft

I highlighted some words for you.

In the case of Joe, what you are taking to him does not belonging to him but to the 'wronged families' I mentioned. Therefore, taking back what belongs to you is not theft.

In the case of Bob, he is not taking back what belongs to him but taking what belongs to the wronged families. So, we have two thieves in that circumstance. Bob and Joe.

What I asked you earlier is if it is correct for Bob to have what belongs to you and other wronged families, and NOT give it back to all the wronged.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Stormblood said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, I do not want to misrepresent what you were saying. But in that other topic a few weeks ago, what you were advocating was for rich or successful people who own large houses, or who own multiple houses, to have their houses taken away from them. Because if they were able to make that much money, you assume it must have been in some kind of an immoral way that had some negative effects on other people. Or even just for the reason that it is "unfair" for some people to have a big house while other people have no house.


You advocated that the person and their family should be forcibly removed from their home or homes, so that other people who have less money can be moved into those homes. And the family who it was taken from, they will be put into a very small house because that's all they need. And you seriously and honestly meant this when you were saying it.


So where does this fit with the pattern of justice you are talking about in this topic? Forcefully stealing a home away from an innocent family, putting other people into that home. And the people moving in were never harmed by the person who actually owned the house.

What I can say is: instead of paraphrasing, quote the actual bits of text that you are mentioning, and we can discuss them.

Here is what I remember saying:
:arrow: that people charging extortionate prices for housing are criminals, because they are stealing the hard-earned of their tenants, and as such should be treated
:arrow: that the house market has not kept in line with wages but grown disproportionately creating a dystopic scenario where most people have to slave away for decades just to own a house (usually, first going through the renting stage).

Instead of going through the 'what I remember' and the 'what you remember' stage, let's take the actual statements and discuss them.
 
Stormblood said:
tabby said:

if that's what you are doing (taking back what's yours and not what belongs to others), that's the same as one of the options I suggested earlier and not the same as what Dahaarkan stated. Dahaarkan stated he takes everything for himself. It is also different from what jrvan has been arguing against me (that theft isn't wrong).

As for ways of getting back what belongs to you, that is not what I have been interested in arguing when I mentioned the clown.

I have no time on my hands or the strength to spend on targets like Dahaarkan chooses. If I could, I'd go after sorry bastards who exploit others too, especially children and teens. Justice doesn't come freely just because you believe what someone else did to you or others is wrong and they should be punished. Justice comes because you take action to make it happen, and sadly, there's not enough of that happening. Many people go without justice their whole lives because not enough people give a damn or they're not strong enough to get it themselves. Even if you scream at someone to help you, most turn a blind eye, and you're left in pain and with less than you had before.

Would you consider stealing from the enemy wrong? Or only other gentiles, even if those gentiles are stealing and ruining the lives of others? Theft on an innocent I would understand the complaint, but theft on someone who is exploiting others as Dahaarkan has told he chooses to do, is targeting someone who isn't innocent. Explain a method that would work for how you would plan to hand back energy to the ones it was stolen from when you don't even know specifically who the energy was stolen from in the first place? It could be hundreds of people everywhere, what resources do we have right now to help everyone else like that?

If I took what had been stolen from others by the monsters who stole from me and gave it back to those people, to the kids who have no idea what's been done to them... nothing would change, because that energy would just go right back to the monsters. So there's no point, I'd be wasting my time. If I took it and kept if for myself, a wise action would be to use it in a fashion that will get me to a point that one day I can stop the cycle of ruin and misery. I can take down the monsters and stop the cycle at the source. Then maybe those kids can live a semi-normal life, maybe they'll even find their way here one day and heal themselves. That energy won't get stolen again because it is protected by someone who has protection, and thus keeps it out of the hands of corrupted people. If you can't stop those who are corrupt, helping the lowest rank of withouts won't get you or them anywhere by just handing their stuff back.

The reason I don't take others energies that are inside the monsters (to keep or return) is because I have no clue what I'm looking for. The amount of people they stole from is too many to try find all of them and match their energies, the effort and time is not worth it and I can't help them all. Believe me, I've tried. I can only touch what I know is mine and jrvan's because I know what that energy feels like and can target it without getting messy. For all I know there was some of those kids energy in the stuff I ripped from the crazies and sent away, but I don't have the time to waste on thoughts like that. If I can't take them out then they won't stop because nothing is stopping them, and the few that know the truth of those people are living with entities still inside themselves and can't help the others even if they could. We're the only ones lucky enough to find Satan and do something about it.

If the energy was stolen from withouts in the first place, they do not have the power to protect what is theirs, and if handed back what belongs to them by us they are inevitably going to lose it all over again and cycle repeats. The ones who are stealing are people who don't give a damn if we are left starving on the streets, they wish for our suffering so they can rise to full control over everyone. Dahaarkan doesn't need me to have his back on this, his spine is strong and his head is clear. He goes after exploiters - I can admire that. He's not your Robbin Hood, what does it matter? Energy spent into advancing so we can change the climate from the top down is better than wasting energy picking up after others who won't pick up after themselves. He's going for the head of the problem not the tail.

If you don't want to deal justice by your own hands that's fine. You're free to tackle whichever part of the problem suits you and your abilities. But we are not forbidden from doing our own work and gaining justice ourselves using the tools that are taught in ways that we decide.

I have a suggestion and it's rather obvious and simple. Go to the people who are being stolen from and educate them on how to defend, stand up for, and protect themselves. Teach them spirituality and enlighten them as much as possible, guide them here to Satan and let them gain their own strength. The sooner we can get individuals to be advanced enough on their own, the sooner those resources can be put into advancing society as a whole and fixing the mess of the enemy. This isn't much different from handing citizens a gun and training them to use it should they need it so that the big boys can take care of the nastier business without stretching their attention and resources thin.

Right now your proposed system doesn't exist and probably won't exist for maybe a few hundred years. This is what we have right now, and we are free to makes these choices. The legal system as it stands is riddled with corruption and no one can provide evidence for spiritual crimes. Those who deserve punishment are walking away with little more than a slap on the wrist while those trying to get by are condemned. If we're too afraid to use our own tools to get shit done, nothing is going to move far enough to even have a perfect system created anyway.

Dahaarkan has chosen his methods, we've chosen ours, you have chosen yours. Condemning people over this is pointless.
 
Okay.

I have it.

I have the ultimate method.

And, ironically, it is something I have always had and something I have always done instinctively- just not applied specifically to humans.

We already have within us the most effective energy absorption system imaginable. It is so much a part of us that we even have physical corresponding organs to this energy system.

Ever since I began dreaming consciously, I’ve done this. If an entity tried to steal my lifeforce or attack me, I didn’t sit and ponder about the philosophical implications of the interaction. I didn’t go into a meditation and wish love upon it. I didn’t visualize it surrounded by white light and pray to some outside entity for protection.

What did I do?

I grabbed the fucking thing, shoved it in my mouth and started chewing.

Crunch, crunch, crunch.

GULP.


Done.

No fear, no hesitation, no remorse.

It’s the ultimate act of domination and ‘fuck-you’ to an invading presence. You eat and digest the damn thing.

Don’t care about toxins, don’t care about dirty or low level energies. The digestive system takes care of all that. It’s all about consuming the very essence of your enemy to absolute completion.

Now, on this thread a couple less experienced members asked me earlier: “why bother getting energy from low level NPCs when you have much higher sources of clean energy?”

The answer is simple: refinement.

The same way we eat a fruit that has transformed sunlight into sugar instead of staring into the sun directly.

The same way we eat a ribeye steak instead of chewing on grass for weeks.

Refinement. Letting a lower level lifeform do the refinement so higher level Apex predator can come in and benefit from the resources. And that Apex predator is Me.

All I have to do is start hunting down the right dreamers and literally devour them. Or at least take a huge fucking bite.

Perhaps this is the true origin of the myth of the Vampire- not to sustain off physical blood but spiritual lifeforce right from the throat chakra.

As to whether I can consume and digest an entire human dreamer is yet to be determined. But you gotta start somewhere.

Bon appetit.
 
Okay.

I have it.

I have the ultimate method.

And, ironically, it is something I have always had and something I have always done instinctively- just not applied specifically to humans.

We already have within us the most effective energy absorption system imaginable. It is so much a part of us that we even have physical corresponding organs to this energy system.

Ever since I began dreaming consciously, I’ve done this. If an entity tried to steal my lifeforce or attack me, I didn’t sit and ponder about the philosophical implications of the interaction. I didn’t go into a meditation and wish love upon it. I didn’t visualize it surrounded by white light and pray to some outside entity for protection.

What did I do?

I grabbed the fucking thing, shoved it in my mouth and started chewing.

Crunch, crunch, crunch.

GULP.


Done.

No fear, no hesitation, no remorse.

It’s the ultimate act of domination and ‘fuck-you’ to an invading presence. You eat and digest the damn thing.

Don’t care about toxins, don’t care about dirty or low level energies. The digestive system takes care of all that. It’s all about consuming the very essence of your enemy to absolute completion.

Now, on this thread a couple less experienced members asked me earlier: “why bother getting energy from low level NPCs when you have much higher sources of clean energy?”

The answer is simple: refinement.

The same way we eat a fruit that has transformed sunlight into sugar instead of staring into the sun directly.

The same way we eat a ribeye steak instead of chewing on grass for weeks.

Refinement. Letting a lower level lifeform do the refinement so higher level Apex predator can come in and benefit from the resources. And that Apex predator is Me.

All I have to do is start hunting down the right dreamers and literally devour them. Or at least take a huge fucking bite.

Perhaps this is the true origin of the myth of the Vampire- not to sustain off physical blood but spiritual lifeforce right from the throat chakra.

As to whether I can consume and digest an entire human dreamer is yet to be determined. But you gotta start somewhere.

Bon appetit.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Jack said:
I on the contrary would prefer to remain poor

Jackie goy go on the JoS forums and use the respect and reputation you've gained over the years to preach that poverty is a virtue! Condemn all goyim who do what they can to push themselves out of poverty!

You actually go as far as to preach xian morality in the JOY OF SATAN forums just to spite me personally. Keep going jack, you're doing a great job and not at all making a clown out of yourself. Honk honk
What are you talking about. I specifically said that if it was not through a legitimate method of income ,I would not use sniveling rat like behavior to become rich. It's not that hard when you're tapped in.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Jack said:
People here just don't like sniveling rat like behavior.

You hate sniveling rat behavior so much that you all start crying and condemning me when I punish people for being sniveling rats.

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No, it's not that you simply dislike me noooo! First it was "jewish". Then it was "not the Satanic way" or some kind of "sin". Then someone mentioned JoS teaches energy ripping and now it's none of that.

Then it became distasteful, but it's also justice so it's not that either. Now apparently destroying sniveling rats who exploit innocent people, is sniveling rat behavior, even though it's taught by JoS in some capacity. No, really there's a lot of logic and reason behind all these arguments, and all of this is not at all simply you people complaining for the sake of complaining because you don't like me personally.
Okay Robin Hood. I believe your story. Lol
 
Dahaarkan said:
Henu the Great said:
Cool story Bro.

Is cleaning, purification and applying empowerment to excel your competition too vanilla for you...

I have to wonder, and not a personal criticism of you individually because you're not the only one. But do you truly believe that these vague, meaningless 1-2 phrase posts are of any use to anybody?

What did you explain, what did you convey, what did you clear up with this post. Just snarky bait. It's like you have to answer every topic, even when you don't have an answer or any insight to give, but you absolutely MUST post something. So since you have nothing of value to contribute to the conversation, you just make a lazy, snarky remark and leave.

And pose as if you've just addressed every flaw in this person's thoughts and provided some spectacular fire of knowledge in your 10 word post. Thank you for dropping in to bless us with your incredibly insightful post, now run along and let the grown men talk.
I think this was a bit unnecessary as Henu does a lot of important work. You don't have to write endless paragraphs to be significant. I wish I had enough time to be that available on the forums and help as he does (hopefully I will soon).

I have skimmed through the thread and I understand the topic in general. As long as you're not developing a parasitic mindset or hurting an innocent, feel free to utilize the energy ripping tool as you please. I can understand why people would associate one who does it a lot with being parasitic.
 
Blackdragon666 said:
I think this was a bit unnecessary as Henu does a lot of important work. You don't have to write endless paragraphs to be significant. I wish I had enough time to be that available on the forums and help as he does (hopefully I will soon).

Because I gave him feedback doesn't mean I'm devaluing anything he does. He is not perfect and should not be kept in a bubble and made to believe he can do no wrong. His post was useless and a regurgitation of what others have repeatedly said already, what's worse is how it is put together is baity and snarky, this kind of behavior should be beneath him, and he's better than that.
 

Don’t you think it’s hypocritical to literally be a landlord yourself but complain about others earning wealth illegitimately and exploiting others? If anything you are the one that should be stolen from. You live off of people that would have no choice than to be on the street or pay your death-pledge every month. Landlords don’t produce anything and steal housing so by default your wealth is illegitimate.

You’re basically just overcompensating and showing how much of a good guy robinhood hero you are to everyone else because you are wealthy by the same means as those you are stealing from and you wish to deflect that.
 
NakedPluto said:
tabby said:

You are arguing that because you where programmed and abused by the doctrines of the enemy, by the process of programming upon the mind, you now deny the process itself, and try to erase it, being the problem, and also deny the mind, being the problem, associating the problems by the enemy with the nature itself, the mechanism of the mind, the process of the brain. On analogy, because you ate a bad apple and you became ill, next time you’ll never eat anymore, because one time it made you ill by the process of eating. The mind in an instrument, not a cause in itself.
The fact that something can be manipulated to bear positive fruits and at the same time negative fruits, doesn’t mean it is not working correctly. You attribute the conclusions to the wrong ends, hence the confusion and incapacity to correct these.

---------------

All of this arguing on you don’t know how it is on the dark side and other dramatic theories is pointless to me and the subject at hand. I had moments in life with the target and mission to press the trigger, I had a lot of lives in my hand on decisions of great consequences, other hidden, choices of death and life, tribulations and obstacles most would never imagine, and everything sat upon these discussions that I gave platform now to converse, yet ignored by the comfort of “my experience” is higher/lower than yours, without giving response to the actual arguments that are guides and basis for everything.

I did not seek to correct the source of these, aka yourselves, neither condemn or pinpoint on the premise of correction, but on the opposite by discussing to emphasize the future of these and give perspective and depth in order for better information and guidance in these, in which the actual help would arrive.

Draining for the above purpose is not possible this way, promoted it as doing something else than what actually happens, with no actual use of real growth. I refuse to virtue signal things, but it seems these are requested even if the grosser denying of this is taking place. Physic vampirism has other uses than draining, draining being the modality of it’s accomplishment. It is overly misrepresented, being just a simple aspect of the manipulation and a direction. Nothing else. All of this mystifying and sympathy comes from idolatry, and the tendency to sympathize with cult ideologies.

The whole argument of everything that was presented to me, was a defense of the self, and not the process of thought, the effects, and the consequences, things that are necessary for judgment ultimately for this purpose, but only a reactive opinion. All is fine, but this concludes confusion, and no real value to be presented neither.

Because everything came to name-calling and another show for the delight of the jew, even with the above tries to attempt an elaborate discussion, I will have to cease these, as from a positive input it slowly turns in decaying reactions which I will not entertain. I was hoping for an ethical discussion and argumentation, as a transformative process from the “vampirism and you no you” without any basis, it seems it didn’t work. Academic argumentation isn't idealistic.

From my part, all can do what they want, and truly no one stopped you. The fact that it is argued that someone has a right to react and give opinion on this, is absurd, more so that it is associated with the status on the forum. What? I am disappointed that people do not want to be told what the negatives and future of actions are, just like xians, and revolt upon input regardless of it’s intensity. Might as well shut the fuck up and not talk about it since talking about it is a problem by the other's inputs.

The aim of this forum is to discuss, argument and propose better ideals and realities unto people, not to turn everything in personal things. From the personal we had a chance to go into the impersonal and discuss these philosophies.

Your comments had me blow a mental fuse for a bit, honestly. But re-reading a few times, I think I get most of it now enough to at least be able to make a response. It's tricky to fully understand what you're saying with how you present your words, so I answered the only way I felt I could at the time with the current tension of the thread. I'm not one for philosophy, I enjoy reading others discussions of it but I struggle to talk about such topics myself, though I give it a shot even though I feel well out of my league. Uncomfortable situations are helpful learning experiences anyway, imo.

Right and wrong, it's not something that has ever felt... well, right, in that no one's ideas of what that is made any sense. Morals have made little sense either over the years. There was a time my morals were too ridged and it caused me major problems. Then too loose and that screwed me over as well. The middle ground is about as confusing as the other two. It all has one thing in common, it's always aligned to what other people says is right and wrong, good and evil, usually twisted people. Can a concept really be a good one if it’s never tailored properly to anyone expect the 1% for their own sick benefit? Would we have ever found Father Satan if we only ever listened to what others say is good and evil?

Once I was so caught up in being right that I never listened to what I could learn and grow, people have been hurt just because I wanted to be right, believed I was right, and hated being wrong. Even if you are right, it becomes too much of a focus and too important that you squabble pointlessly and to no end just to have your way and make the other person see that they're wrong. We fear being wrong and obsess over being right because if we do wrong we’re punished - but that punishment can be unjust if what someone else decides is wrong isn’t aligned with the reality of things.

Morals and right/wrong, the ones created for me backfired in sometimes incredibly unpleasant ways. So you're right in that way, others teachings have shaped this letting go of right and wrong because it hasn't ever meant anything good. So when I saw others bashing Dahaarkan claiming him to be bad and wrong when he isn't and his actions are fine, I began to really question what the heck is the point of such a concept that's mostly used to hurt people, manipulate them, or hold them back unnecessarily instead of helping them be well-rounded individuals in life. When did being right become more important than following truth? Are we incapable of shedding light on reality without barking that I’m right/he’s wrong be damned? If anything, I’m seeking an answer that is being pretty elusive to me right now, and until then, I scrapped the concept as it currently stands and tailoring one for myself.

Aligning "right" with truth, and aligning wrong with what is inappropriate, unacceptable, or intolerable based on each individual situation, would prevent this kind of shaming and shit shows where the only thing that matters is just being right. I hope I'm making sense.

I went back over my other comment and yeah, there's really no need for me to have written that last paragraph. Maybe I shouldn't have jumped in like that and made even the first response to you out of the blue - impulsive habit, but frankly, I wanted to understand this more and others views of it. I’m just not good at executing a high quality discussion. You're right that what I'd hoped was something of a decent contribution of thought divulged into more personal and emotional expression. So excuse me for bringing it too much to the public and being a bit of an oddball with the tension getting to my head.

At least I can thank you for helping to act as a trigger to further my understanding that part of the emotional issues and social problems stems from a chakra imbalance - probably a result of what happened by the people who hurt me. Jrvan is helping me to take care of it now.
 
Halimut said:
Okay.

I have it.

I have the ultimate method.

And, ironically, it is something I have always had and something I have always done instinctively- just not applied specifically to humans.

We already have within us the most effective energy absorption system imaginable. It is so much a part of us that we even have physical corresponding organs to this energy system.

Ever since I began dreaming consciously, I’ve done this. If an entity tried to steal my lifeforce or attack me, I didn’t sit and ponder about the philosophical implications of the interaction. I didn’t go into a meditation and wish love upon it. I didn’t visualize it surrounded by white light and pray to some outside entity for protection.

What did I do?

I grabbed the fucking thing, shoved it in my mouth and started chewing.

Crunch, crunch, crunch.

GULP.


Done.

No fear, no hesitation, no remorse.

It’s the ultimate act of domination and ‘fuck-you’ to an invading presence. You eat and digest the damn thing.

Don’t care about toxins, don’t care about dirty or low level energies. The digestive system takes care of all that. It’s all about consuming the very essence of your enemy to absolute completion.

Now, on this thread a couple less experienced members asked me earlier: “why bother getting energy from low level NPCs when you have much higher sources of clean energy?”

The answer is simple: refinement.

The same way we eat a fruit that has transformed sunlight into sugar instead of staring into the sun directly.

The same way we eat a ribeye steak instead of chewing on grass for weeks.

Refinement. Letting a lower level lifeform do the refinement so higher level Apex predator can come in and benefit from the resources. And that Apex predator is Me.

All I have to do is start hunting down the right dreamers and literally devour them. Or at least take a huge fucking bite.

Perhaps this is the true origin of the myth of the Vampire- not to sustain off physical blood but spiritual lifeforce right from the throat chakra.

As to whether I can consume and digest an entire human dreamer is yet to be determined. But you gotta start somewhere.

Bon appetit.

I won't even attempt to start explaining anything you've written here. I wrote an article regarding psychic vampirism in detail if you're interested in being educated on this matter.

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=66385

Everything you've described is simply a product of your imagination, and your concept of wanting to be some kind of edgelord apex predator doesn't exist outside of your mind. You cannot consume a soul in it's entirety, and even if you did manage to fuse with another soul you'd simply become an aberration. An amalgamation of souls doomed to permanent decay.

Psychic vampirism is not on it's own a tool for advancement or energy accumulation.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Blackdragon666 said:
I think this was a bit unnecessary as Henu does a lot of important work. You don't have to write endless paragraphs to be significant. I wish I had enough time to be that available on the forums and help as he does (hopefully I will soon).

Because I gave him feedback doesn't mean I'm devaluing anything he does. He is not perfect and should not be kept in a bubble and made to believe he can do no wrong. His post was useless and a regurgitation of what others have repeatedly said already, what's worse is how it is put together is baity and snarky, this kind of behavior should be beneath him, and he's better than that.

Actually you did and then took a step back. This is why the other coward agreed with you, he was a coward who hated on Henu behind the scenes and never had the courage to come out until you gave him a platform. You called his posts vague and meaningless which they are not. Henu is always replying to questions and trying to help in his capacity which is greatly appreciated by the Gods. You were just being petty and thinking that you were 'bursting his bubble'. You tried to bring down a Satanist who does more work on the forums than you which is absolutely disgusting.

Who gave you the authority to decide who posts valuable and non-valuable information? Under whose authority do you think you can say how anyone should post or what a quality post is, to the point of trying to destroy the well-earned reputation of other SS? There's a reason why Henu is off-mod and you're not.

And for goodness sake work on your petty anger issues. Yes people raise valid concerns concerns over your obsession with draining people's life force.

The subconscious mind doesn't understand like the conscious mind does. While you think you're doing something justified (which may or may not be), you're programming your subconscious mind to have a parasitic mindset. That it's okay to take people's life force. It doesn't matter the reason but the more you do this the more you program it into your subconscious. The result is that you can reincarnate with this trait strong in your personality to where you feel justified to just take other people's property as you please.

Using energy ripping for personal gains is the equivalent of using brute force to take away the property of people you come across who you deem unworthy of having their property. It is not 'wrong', especially if the person really acquired their wealth through underhanded means but you're using this as a major means to make ends meet. So what does this say or imply about you? Exactly, that rather than build stuff for yourself, you prefer to take from others.

This sets up a pattern that can worsen with successive lifetimes, creating a real parasite
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Between the two pillars of the soul, one of which is about judgement and another is about forgiveness or kindness, the balance is instated only when the higher pillar of the soul [the 3rd eye] is properly activated. In this case, judgement becomes an ability of a person, and from there on, one can decide their route of action based on their power and capacity.

Oh my gosh thank you! You just gave an answer of what my issue rn was! (Not related at all, but you gave me an answer of something else :p )
 
Blackdragon666 said:
Actually you did and then took a step back. This is why the other coward agreed with you, he was a coward who hated on Henu behind the scenes and never had the courage to come out until you gave him a platform. You called his posts vague and meaningless which they are not. Henu is always replying to questions and trying to help in his capacity which is greatly appreciated by the Gods. You were just being petty and thinking that you were 'bursting his bubble'. You tried to bring down a Satanist who does more work on the forums than you which is absolutely disgusting.
And here come the rest of the so called “Guardians” with a God complex. He described it perfectly as a mafia that runs on intimidation even though I may disagree with his ideals. That’s integrity. All of you are in some sort of a pact where anyone that steps out of line (especially against one of you) gets verbally beaten and no one can say anything about it because of your “offmod” or whatever the fuck status. Everyone should just grovel to you and the gang and should be grateful for your presence on this post even though nothing meaningful was said.
 
The Outlaw Torn said:
Blackdragon666 said:
Actually you did and then took a step back. This is why the other coward agreed with you, he was a coward who hated on Henu behind the scenes and never had the courage to come out until you gave him a platform. You called his posts vague and meaningless which they are not. Henu is always replying to questions and trying to help in his capacity which is greatly appreciated by the Gods. You were just being petty and thinking that you were 'bursting his bubble'. You tried to bring down a Satanist who does more work on the forums than you which is absolutely disgusting.
And here come the rest of the so called “Guardians” with a God complex. He described it perfectly as a mafia that runs on intimidation even though I may disagree with his ideals. That’s integrity. All of you are in some sort of a pact where anyone that steps out of line (especially against one of you) gets verbally beaten and no one can say anything about it because of your “offmod” or whatever the fuck status. Everyone should just grovel to you and the gang and should be grateful for your presence on this post even though nothing meaningful was said.

You can clearly say anything, nobody is keeping you of this, even this nonsense that you falsely ascribed to me I said that I never did [which is the reason people obviously reacted because it was a full on lie].

For a person so fond of considering to ideas that "might is right", or your claims that rape is "kinda" justified, you act too sensitive for indeed not having been censored, or anything else at all done to you.

Your complaint is over the fact that literally nothing has happened to you but adverse opinions expressed en masse.
 
Blackdragon666 said:
Dahaarkan said:
Blackdragon666 said:
I think this was a bit unnecessary as Henu does a lot of important work. You don't have to write endless paragraphs to be significant. I wish I had enough time to be that available on the forums and help as he does (hopefully I will soon).

Because I gave him feedback doesn't mean I'm devaluing anything he does. He is not perfect and should not be kept in a bubble and made to believe he can do no wrong. His post was useless and a regurgitation of what others have repeatedly said already, what's worse is how it is put together is baity and snarky, this kind of behavior should be beneath him, and he's better than that.

Actually you did and then took a step back. This is why the other coward agreed with you, he was a coward who hated on Henu behind the scenes and never had the courage to come out until you gave him a platform. You called his posts vague and meaningless which they are not. Henu is always replying to questions and trying to help in his capacity which is greatly appreciated by the Gods. You were just being petty and thinking that you were 'bursting his bubble'. You tried to bring down a Satanist who does more work on the forums than you which is absolutely disgusting.

Who gave you the authority to decide who posts valuable and non-valuable information? Under whose authority do you think you can say how anyone should post or what a quality post is, to the point of trying to destroy the well-earned reputation of other SS? There's a reason why Henu is off-mod and you're not.

And for goodness sake work on your petty anger issues. Yes people raise valid concerns concerns over your obsession with draining people's life force.

The subconscious mind doesn't understand like the conscious mind does. While you think you're doing something justified (which may or may not be), you're programming your subconscious mind to have a parasitic mindset. That it's okay to take people's life force. It doesn't matter the reason but the more you do this the more you program it into your subconscious. The result is that you can reincarnate with this trait strong in your personality to where you feel justified to just take other people's property as you please.

Using energy ripping for personal gains is the equivalent of using brute force to take away the property of people you come across who you deem unworthy of having their property. It is not 'wrong', especially if the person really acquired their wealth through underhanded means but you're using this as a major means to make ends meet. So what does this say or imply about you? Exactly, that rather than build stuff for yourself, you prefer to take from others.

This sets up a pattern that can worsen with successive lifetimes, creating a real parasite

I will not address you in crude manner because I personally believe you're a step above most of the people here, at least in terms of behavior. So I just urge you to re-read my posts towards Henu. Henu's post which I am referring to, only repeated what was already said before and only served as snarky bait.

Pointing this out is not a vicious attempt at destroying someone but simply addressing an error, and giving constructive feedback. I was not crude to Henu if anything I simply gave to him he same level of snobbishness he presented in his first post here.


And because I point out an error in his behavior, or give feedback on the way he operates, doesn't mean I am trying to destroy him, or am devaluing anything he does. I've said repeatedly Henu has done great things and his contributions are undeniable. And I won't even attempt to take this bs from you about trying to bring down anyone, all I've done on this thread is defend myself. I've gone after no one.

Because Henu has done great things doesn't mean he's on a pedestal, and that people should be afraid to criticize him as if he's some kind of god who can do no wrong. You may think you're defending Henu but when you say these things, and present him as if he's an all-knowing being that should never be criticized, you only give reason and power to Torn, whose concerns I actually think are quite valid after seeing the behavior of certain people here.

I don't need any authority to be allowed to speak my mind about something I believe is wrong. Anyone and everyone has this right to voice their thoughts, the idea that I shouldn't voice my opinion, simply because it is in criticism to certain individuals, is insanity. Nobody in here is all powerful or above criticism and growth.

Some of you have put yourselves on a pedestal and believe yourselves to be so superior, so perfect, that you can do no wrong. And thus any criticism thrown your way is viewed as a vicious personal attack, rather than simple and good natured feedback.

Still, I have more faith than Torn does. I think you guys can do better.
 
The Outlaw Torn said:
Don’t you think it’s hypocritical to literally be a landlord yourself but complain about others earning wealth illegitimately and exploiting others? If anything you are the one that should be stolen from. You live off of people that would have no choice than to be on the street or pay your death-pledge every month. Landlords don’t produce anything and steal housing so by default your wealth is illegitimate.

You’re basically just overcompensating and showing how much of a good guy robinhood hero you are to everyone else because you are wealthy by the same means as those you are stealing from and you wish to deflect that.

I don't know which fantasy world you come from, but in the real world you actually have to work for it if you want to own a house. It's not like I just got a property given to me for free, you know. I had to pay for it, and that money I had to work for.

And it's going to be a couple of years before I break even. The people renting my property have the same opportunities I have, around the same age as me even. Maybe they should stop spending money on alcohol, cars and petty luxuries and instead get to work and buy a house for themselves.


People who have nothing always assume those who have something, simply stole it or got lucky. Sorry to break it to you but I don't have any fancy college degrees, rich parents or won any lottery. Everything I have I made manifest through my spiritual power and physical labor.
 
The Outlaw Torn said:

You come to Satan's family, and you promote violence to be done against Satan's children. You promote for violence to be done against millions of innocent White women and children. Which is a pure example of evil jew rat behavior, which 99.9999% of people would be absolutely disgusted against.

And still you are not banned when you are the absolute opposite of all of us. We are here to protect our people, and you are here to harm our people. And still you are not banned somehow.

And all you can do is go around complaining and "tattle tailing to the teacher" [Cobra] that all the other people disagree with you and it's not fair that nobody agrees with you. This is not anybody's fault except yourself.

We are here to protect our people. We are here to help our people. And shut down rotting, subversive, damaging influence which is attempting to harm our people. Which you are this worthless subversive damaging influence. I actually used to respect you before you recently showed who you really are.

If you say that you want millions of my white women and children to be raped, my response is that you are the lowest example of worthless subversive rat. And all other Satanists are going to have the same reaction as me, but they may choose not to say anything or try to say it in a nicer way but this is the reaction that all of us have in our soul against you. You are trying to harm our women and children, so every amount of life in our souls is to disagree with you and go against you. We are the immune system and you are the disease, it is called self preservation and preservation of our people.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
The Outlaw Torn said:

You come to Satan's family, and you promote violence to be done against Satan's children. You promote for violence to be done against millions of innocent White women and children. Which is a pure example of evil jew rat behavior, which 99.9999% of people would be absolutely disgusted against.

And still you are not banned when you are the absolute opposite of all of us. We are here to protect our people, and you are here to harm our people. And still you are not banned somehow.

And all you can do is go around complaining and "tattle tailing to the teacher" [Cobra] that all the other people disagree with you and it's not fair that nobody agrees with you. This is not anybody's fault except yourself.

We are here to protect our people. We are here to help our people. And shut down rotting, subversive, damaging influence which is attempting to harm our people. Which you are this worthless subversive damaging influence. I actually used to respect you before you recently showed who you really are.

If you say that you want millions of my white women and children to be raped, my response is that you are the lowest example of worthless subversive rat. And all other Satanists are going to have the same reaction as me, but they may choose not to say anything or try to say it in a nicer way but this is the reaction that all of us have in our soul against you. You are trying to harm our women and children, so every amount of life in our souls is to disagree with you and go against you. We are the immune system and you are the disease, it is called self preservation and preservation of our people.

Are you saying that having common values and views in a community is not the same as being part of a hive mind (as some people say) or an echo chamber (as other people say)? Damn, you must be really wrong :lol: :roll:
 
Stormblood said:
Are you saying that having common values and views in a community is not the same as being part of a hive mind (as some people say) or an echo chamber (as other people say)? Damn, you must be really wrong :lol: :roll:

Because disagreeing with a kike that says millions of white women and children should be raped, it really is exactly the same thing as hating Dahaarkan and having a constant grudge against him for several years just for mildly cursing a small number of non-Satanists. And you don't even disagree with him cursing the people, you just hate him because it might give him some extremely small and insignificant amount of help that he doesn't deserve. Frequently bringing up his name in completely unrelated situations just to talk shit about him, provide no actual commentary other than talking shit, and then acting like you're the innocent victim of evil Dahaarkan if anybody ever mentions it. And you are doing this for years.

I don't agree with Dahaarkan, but I think that your hatred against him is enormously out of proportion to what the situation is. And he has shown an amazing amount of patience, calmness, and respect toward you for all these years. Much more than anybody else would show you if they were in that situation, and more than you really deserve. I think that what Dahaarkan wrote about your mindset and your ego situation, from what I have seen from you in the last years, it looks like he was correct and in perfect detail. Your hatred against Dahaarkan has been worse than any other conflict I have seen between anybody else here. And he does absolutely nothing to you, just ignores it most of the time.

Honestly I know that my personality and yours just plain do not fit together. Just like you and Dahaarkan don't fit together. I want to start doing a better job of not contributing to any arguments, so I want to not reply to you about anything. Since it just ends up with a dumb argument and never gets anywhere useful. That's also why I suggested it would be better for both of you to ignore each other and not say anything.

I used to have enormous respect for you. I used to think you are one of the greatest people here. And a few years ago, you were. You were helpful, respectful, responsible, patient, good to everybody. But honestly in the last year or 2 your personality has changed a lot. You are almost like a completely different person. Now you seem bitter, hateful, impatient. I still think you are a good person but my opinion of you is nowhere near what it used to be. Now I think of you as acting very similar to Top of the Abyss. I am going to start trying to never reply to you or mention you because I don't want to contribute to any argument. Top of the Abyss is the only other person I ever had to completely ignore like this.


I'm only writing this because I am sincerely hoping that an outside view from somebody who has watched your personality and behaviour for several years, and has seen you change very much over the last couple years, may get you to take a look at yourself and see how much you changed. You used to be so much nicer, more patient, more friendly, more helpful, much less bitter, much less hateful, much less petty. I had the highest level of respect and appreciation for the man you used to be. And I sincerely wish you will work on yourself and go back to being that man. The difference in your personality has been so much that I actually wondered a few times if a different person took over your account.

 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Stormblood said:
Are you saying that having common values and views in a community is not the same as being part of a hive mind (as some people say) or an echo chamber (as other people say)? Damn, you must be really wrong :lol: :roll:

Because disagreeing with a kike that says millions of white women and children should be raped, it really is exactly the same thing as hating Dahaarkan and having a constant grudge against him for several years just for mildly cursing a small number of non-Satanists. And you don't even disagree with him cursing the people, you just hate him because it might give him some extremely small and insignificant amount of help that he doesn't deserve. Frequently bringing up his name in completely unrelated situations just to talk shit about him, provide no actual commentary other than talking shit, and then acting like you're the innocent victim of evil Dahaarkan if anybody ever mentions it. And you are doing this for years.

I don't agree with Dahaarkan, but I think that your hatred against him is enormously out of proportion to what the situation is. And he has shown an amazing amount of patience, calmness, and respect toward you for all these years. Much more than anybody else would show you if they were in that situation, and more than you really deserve. I think that what Dahaarkan wrote about your mindset and your ego situation, from what I have seen from you in the last years, it looks like he was correct and in perfect detail. Your hatred against Dahaarkan has been worse than any other conflict I have seen between anybody else here. And he does absolutely nothing to you, just ignores it most of the time.

Honestly I know that my personality and yours just plain do not fit together. Just like you and Dahaarkan don't fit together. I want to start doing a better job of not contributing to any arguments, so I want to not reply to you about anything. Since it just ends up with a dumb argument and never gets anywhere useful. That's also why I suggested it would be better for both of you to ignore each other and not say anything.

I used to have enormous respect for you. I used to think you are one of the greatest people here. And a few years ago, you were. You were helpful, respectful, responsible, patient, good to everybody. But honestly in the last year or 2 your personality has changed a lot. You are almost like a completely different person. Now you seem bitter, hateful, impatient. I still think you are a good person but my opinion of you is nowhere near what it used to be. Now I think of you as acting very similar to Top of the Abyss. I am going to start trying to never reply to you or mention you because I don't want to contribute to any argument. Top of the Abyss is the only other person I ever had to completely ignore like this.


I'm only writing this because I am sincerely hoping that an outside view from somebody who has watched your personality and behaviour for several years, and has seen you change very much over the last couple years, may get you to take a look at yourself and see how much you changed. You used to be so much nicer, more patient, more friendly, more helpful, much less bitter, much less hateful, much less petty. I had the highest level of respect and appreciation for the man you used to be. And I sincerely wish you will work on yourself and go back to being that man. The difference in your personality has been so much that I actually wondered a few times if a different person took over your account.


Got it. I am taking notes. Today's note is: "Never use a joke to agree 100% with something Ol Argedco Luciftias says." Yesterday's note was: "For once, let's try not to take Ol Argedco post as an attack, but let's try to clarify by asking him to send quotes that I can explain."

I agree with you that I should ignore D. I already put him on the ignore list. I used to think highly of you as well. This changed when you started defending your friend Aldrick in his story topic in an aggressive way, and kept changing every time you got in a conversation with me after that. That's what I know is the reason for the new glasses you put on when reading me: my dislike of that unstable infiltrator vs your friendship with him. It could only end when you cut all your ties to him, not merely by stopping to talk to him outside the forum. Maybe.

Just fyi, D is not the only one who has used the term 'hive mind'. Some infiltrators have used it too. I don't remember if here or the degenerates forum. Another delusional person also used it with me in private because I defend HP Hooded Cobra and this person seems to have a disproportionate hate for him for the usual reasons: he has a position of authority, he actually worked his ass off to get into this position whereas this person never did anything his whole life, and so on. The usual jealous, ego-maniac, immature trip directed toward authorities by slackers.

This forum is not the Stormblood show, will never be it and should never be it. As such, if you wish to go on ignoring terms, I will respect your decision because I still respect you nonetheless for your work on the forum, regardless of our personal interactions. Bye.
 
Stormblood said:
Got it. I am taking notes. Today's note is: "Never use a joke to agree 100% with something Ol Argedco Luciftias says." Yesterday's note was: "For once, let's try not to take Ol Argedco post as an attack, but let's try to clarify by asking him to send quotes that I can explain."

I agree with you that I should ignore D. I already put him on the ignore list. I used to think highly of you as well. This changed when you started defending your friend Aldrick in his story topic in an aggressive way, and kept changing every time you got in a conversation with me after that. That's what I know is the reason for the new glasses you put on when reading me: my dislike of that unstable infiltrator vs your friendship with him. It could only end when you cut all your ties to him, not merely by stopping to talk to him outside the forum. Maybe.

Just fyi, D is not the only one who has used the term 'hive mind'. Some infiltrators have used it too. I don't remember if here or the degenerates forum. Another delusional person also used it with me in private because I defend HP Hooded Cobra and this person seems to have a disproportionate hate for him for the usual reasons: he has a position of authority, he actually worked his ass off to get into this position whereas this person never did anything his whole life, and so on. The usual jealous, ego-maniac, immature trip directed toward authorities by slackers.

This forum is not the Stormblood show, will never be it and should never be it. As such, if you wish to go on ignoring terms, I will respect your decision because I still respect you nonetheless for your work on the forum, regardless of our personal interactions. Bye.

Pointless gibberish. Yes, block off any communication from anybody who isn't validating and worshiping you in all things, this is very good for you, and will have a happy ending for sure.

This is a warning of things to come, and if you continue down this path as a slave to your ego, your fate won't be as different as Aldrick's. You are already behaving in the same manner, disregarding any disagreement as personal hatred, and everybody who disagrees with you as infiltrators and jews with an agenda.


You're not as different from Aldrick as you might think and I've warned you about this already, you become more and more like him, and exhibit more and more similar behaviors. And if you keep going down this same path, your story will have the same ending as his.

You have become so pathetic you can't even address me anymore, and you are such a coward that now you just desperately try to involve others in the drama you started, and trying to poison their minds to turn them against me, since there's nothing you can do against me, and all your attempts at destroying me simply resulted in you looking like a fool.

Sorry but others will not be baited into doing your dirty work for you, or become pawns in your personal grudge against me.

I didn't think you could go any lower.
 
Stormblood said:
This changed when you started defending your friend Aldrick in his story topic in an aggressive way, and kept changing every time you got in a conversation with me after that. That's what I know is the reason for the new glasses you put on when reading me: my dislike of that unstable infiltrator vs your friendship with him. It could only end when you cut all your ties to him, not merely by stopping to talk to him outside the forum. Maybe.

I'm just gonna say one last thing then I never have to say it again since all of this is just a repeat anyway of what I have said before. You can go back in my post history and see I have been consistent with this for years.
And I want to start by saying that I do still respect you and I'm happy that you're here because you do still help people.

My only defence of Aldrick was for the same reason that I think I should defend Dahaarkan. Because for both of them, you would come into topics only to start talking shit about them. Following both of them around from topic to topic on every comment they wrote just to talk shit and try to argue at them about opinions they had that you disagreed with, when the topics you would follow them around to and criticize them on had no relation to the subject of your disagreement. I should also mention all of what I'm talking about was before Aldrick was involved with any infiltrator, when he was just a family member like everybody else. With Aldrick it was for him mentioning those dumb astrology mantras, and for Dahaarkan it's the energy sucking. Both of these topics of disagreements were pretty insignificant when they first happened, and both happened years ago, but you are still carrying the grudge and the hatred about it years later.

As I have explained to you multiple times before, it is this behaviour that I thought was wrong. I don't agree with following people and harrassing them on every comment that they post. If you disagree with something somebody says, I want you to adress that and correct them at the time. I want everybody to do this to further the discussion and add more information. But when Aldrick would write a positive and friendly comment to somebody, like writing "Good luck everybody" under an announcement or something like that, and you would come in just yelling at him about the stupid astrology mantras you disagreed with months or even a year earlier. I saw this exact situation several times of Aldrick writing some one-sentence friendly comment under an announcement and you just treating him like shit over months old insignificant arguments. And you still do it all the time to Dahaarkan. The only thing I said to you, and I said it a few different times, is that I think that this specific behaviour is a shitty thing to do. I think it is too far and not right. And I'm pretty sure every argument we ever had has been about me disagreeing with this behaviour from you. Every time I defended either of these people was just for the way you treated them. And all of my defence of Aldrick was before he was involved with any infiltrator, or if he was the people of this forum didn't know about it. The only thing I said about him since he left that you may be considering as a defence of him was just to say he doesn't matter. He isn't here, he hasn't been here for a long time now, he is not important at all to any of us, so why are you still so obsessed with him? Why are you always bringing him up all the time? Why are you still spending so much of your focus and your energy on talking about somebody who left years ago? I can't understand your focus on him. If you want to talk about infiltrators, your time would be much better spent looking at the multiple infiltrators who are here right now instead of some guy who's been gone for years.



And all the time, every time that you talk to me, you accuse me of being some close friend with Aldrick. And you basically say that I am an infiltrator, or that I have some kind of secret evil close friendship and psychic connections with infiltrators or with Aldrick. This is absolute bullshit and slander that you have invented and you know it. I never had any kind of relationship with Aldrick, other than just generally being friendly with him on this website exactly the same way as I am friendly with everybody else here. I never had any email with him, never any conversation other than what is public record on this website, no friendship because we don't know each other. The only people I have ever talked to on email are Cobra, Lydia, Ninrick, and a girl who doesn't post here anymore. Only a very small number of conversations total, with only a few comments. And all of these conversations ended years ago, except for one single project that is recent.

You are the one who was frequently getting involved with all kinds of email relationships with infiltrators and people with bad intentions. You talk about your emails with people like Shael, Ghost in the Machine, Azorm, and all kinds of random crazy people. You talk about how you spent hours emailing with them and trying to help them. Which I do respect you for if you were just trying to help people. But then you accuse me of secret friendships and connections with infiltrators? You have had a lot of private email relationships with infiltrators to be accusing anybody else of that.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:

What's clear here is that you are distorting information. If we count how many times I reply to Dahaarkan's post or mention him, this is less than 1 every 100. Even in this conversation alone, I skipped more than half of his comments, especially the later ones, which I didn't even read. Same with Aldrick really. All this following around is all in your mind. People could even collate the data to make a longitudinal study about and will find that your claims have no basis.

So, why do you keep claiming these things? Can you quote a single time I replied to a friendly comment by Aldrick with something standoffish? You can't, because no evidence exists. And you cannot even claim I delete the evidence, because I do not have deleting permissions. I bet only Lydia, moderators and the admin have deletion powers, and editing powers as well.

Speaking of A, there is no comparison to D. A in the topic YOU are bringing up now, was completely bashed by HP HC. D here was only given a neutral response, just like in a previous topic with similar subject he was given a neutral response (paired with a warning). There is no comparison between D and A.

As for GitM, you got it backwards. He emailed me when he was already delusional. I did not reply. He did it a second time and, again, I did not reply. So he started making CC'd emails with me and every other SS he could find the address of on these forums. That's how I got my mailbox spammed, with people replying to him in the different CC'd topics he created.

So, please, refrain from blowing things out of proportion. Replying to someone or mentioning someone once in a while is a very different behaviour from following people on every topic and every comment. Do I really have to explain this?

Making comparisons is also a normal way to have a discussion with people. All learning in essence is association of ideas, a new idea to an old one. If you compare something new or something that is happening now to something that happened earlier and it's a vivid memory in the older community, this association will help understand and remember. It's simply how the human mind works. I will make a series about memory as I keep learning about it and improving mine through practice, so that the community can benefit from a stronger memory.

Another thing is also about private communication. Some people do better in big groups, some prefer one-on-one approaches and smaller groups. It is human nature, and you know that. If you have actually observed my activity on the forum, you will have notice that group interaction is not my strong suit. That I come here only to help members and address issues. And that I hardly ever joke (more recently) and hardly ever stay to discuss non-spiritual things for long.

Azorm talked about how we were friends for a while, when I barely talked to her for a couple of months at most and blocked her because of her psychological instability. That is hardly friendship.

I am not accusing you of anything, let alone something secret. I am sure how you would take this as an accusation. Aldrick, as far as I know, wasn't an infiltrator. nor a kike. He was banned for something else. Whether you are still friends or not, isn't really an argument or an accusation against you. It is just the first time you turned hostile against me just because I told this person to stop, when he was clearly doing a character murder representation of me in his story.

The other thing I think is the problem is the approach to helping people we both have, which is different. I prefer not to give workings all of the time, but instead make people think and arrive to the solution themselves, which I believe it to be true learning. You prefer to give things directly. We condemned each other's attitude in this once. Fine. Who cares?! I've not been bashing you in every topic.

The third and final thing is probably that I, a few times, talked about detachment from certain addictions/vices that many here consider harmless and normal, and that this separation naturally happens as you advance. You misconstrued that, accusing me that I think I am perfect when I stated multiple times I am not and that I have my unhealthy addictions too that I recognise and I am trying to overcome.

It is also :roll: that you are taking it out on me, when reading post history in this topic you can see how other people have literally filled their replies with insults while I skimmed through them to avoid escalating the situation.

You can deny, ignore or accept that these are the causes of your hostility against me. It does not really matter. I may respect you for the help you give to others, but I certainly do not respect this agenda of inflating things into a dramatic Zoomer tv show. So, it's better if, like you stated earlier we ignore each other, as nothing good seems to come from our interactions, even when I try some humour to agree with you. And I am aware I cannot, unfortunately get along with everyone, because everyone is different.

To resume, I highlighted 3 reasons why I think you are hostile to me and what your behaviour appears to be when interacting with me. The 3 reasons are:
:arrow: defence of Aldrick
:arrow: different approaches to teaching/helping
:arrow: divergence of opinion on addiction/vices (and misassessment about how I see myself)
What I believe your behaviour seems when interacting with me:
:arrow: hyperbole and over-generalisation (these are forms of slanting, which is a logical fallacy)

Feel free to have the last word, if it makes you happy, but please don't try to bait me into continuing the conversation with more negative stuff, as we are here to help people, not to have a keyboard battle with each other. We are long-time members and we are supposed to be a paragon for newer members, not to go at each other throats arguing over flawed statistics and other false representation of data.
 
jrvan said:
Renting isn't something that is forced upon people. They choose to come do business with him. He puts an ad up for an offer for someone to live in his own house in exchange for money. What is the problem with that? Making business offers and other people accepting is totally fine.
Yes it is such a “choice” when some kike banking mafia like blackrock buys up entire neighborhoods and then “rents” these homes at a ridiculous price, then you have small time gangsters like darakan doing it on a micro level.

How can you even say that seriously? Do you genuinely believe that people WANT to rent?

If you asked 100 people at random if they would rather rent or own a property 100 out 100 of them would say they want to OWN, so no it isn’t a “choice” to rent when there is no property left because landlords (EVEN THE NAME IS ABSURD AND CONVEYS A GOD COMPLEX OF BEING A “LORD” OVER YOUR TENANTS) bought it all up.

Exploitation is more like getting rich off the backs of your employees while paying them dirt wages and treating them like garbage. Offering people a place to live in exchange for money isn't like that at all. It also gives people options because sometimes certain people don't want to be rooted and tied to one place, or have to manage the property themselves. Or any number of reasons why they prefer to rent rather than become home owners. The way you have framed it is selective and too narrow. There's also resources for homeless people if you weren't aware. Soup kitchens and homeless shelters, and I'm sure there's other charitable groups depending on the local area.
These are non-reasons that don’t mean anything. None of it justifies throwing a ridiculous amount of your money away every month in the name of renting.

Then you don't have to rent. You get your own house with privacy, and maybe in two or three life times you will get to pay the mortgage off because the jews are assholes.
Or you can pay a “Lord” the same amount as a monthly mortgage payment and NEVER see any of it.

I've seen homeless people, and there's a reason why they get a bad reputation and little sympathy. It's because the majority of them are usually drug addicts who have given up on life, and if you give them money they will just spend it on drugs. If someone is on the streets and they don't eventually climb back up then it's usually because they don't want to.

What you do is you clean yourself up, you look for people to help you get back on your feet, you get a stable job, build your credit score, and then get a mortgage. Then you don't have to rent. You get your own house with privacy, and maybe in two or three life times you will get to pay the mortgage off because the jews are assholes.

You can't really live well in society anymore without going into debt. We all know the jews caused the financial woes of the world, but yeah sure let's blame Dahaarkan for his business arrangements with willing tenants. Would you be happy if he offered his home to people for free, and not get anything out of the business transaction? And he'll just come around and continue to maintain his property while someone else lives there without paying him. I hope you realize how much goes into maintenance.

Honestly, no wonder some of you people aren't successful in life. All this poverty worship and hatred of money, and hatred of successful people. Whatever.
Then for some reason you decide to just go on a rant about how people with less than you suck and deserve their hardships. I won’t even quote darakans response because it’s basically the same as what you just said. PUNCHING DOWN and blaming the victim.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
You come to Satan's family, and you promote violence to be done against Satan's children. You promote for violence to be done against millions of innocent White women and children. Which is a pure example of evil jew rat behavior, which 99.9999% of people would be absolutely disgusted against.

And still you are not banned when you are the absolute opposite of all of us. We are here to protect our people, and you are here to harm our people. And still you are not banned somehow.

And all you can do is go around complaining and "tattle tailing to the teacher" [Cobra] that all the other people disagree with you and it's not fair that nobody agrees with you. This is not anybody's fault except yourself.

We are here to protect our people. We are here to help our people. And shut down rotting, subversive, damaging influence which is attempting to harm our people. Which you are this worthless subversive damaging influence. I actually used to respect you before you recently showed who you really are.

If you say that you want millions of my white women and children to be raped, my response is that you are the lowest example of worthless subversive rat. And all other Satanists are going to have the same reaction as me, but they may choose not to say anything or try to say it in a nicer way but this is the reaction that all of us have in our soul against you. You are trying to harm our women and children, so every amount of life in our souls is to disagree with you and go against you. We are the immune system and you are the disease, it is called self preservation and preservation of our people.
Who let you out of the asylum you lunatic no one said any of that, but actually thank you for proving my point. Your status allows you to just say wild conjecture about me and you won’t be accountable for it because of such. Now go take your Prozac and calm the hell down and quit acting like some panicked woman. You’re embarrassing yourself.
 
Stormblood said:
To resume, I highlighted 3 reasons why I think you are hostile to me and what your behaviour appears to be when interacting with me. The 3 reasons are:
 :arrow: defence of Aldrick
 :arrow: different approaches to teaching/helping
 :arrow: divergence of opinion on addiction/vices (and misassessment about how I see myself)
What I believe your behaviour seems when interacting with me:
 :arrow: hyperbole and over-generalisation (these are forms of slanting, which is a logical fallacy)

I wrote a very long message, but my account got signed out and it got deleted. So I hope I can remember to put everything back in.


I do have a problem with hyperbole and over generalizing sometimes. I am very sorry for doing this to you, and I regret it every time it happened. And I regret every time I did it to a few other people. This is something that I am going to try to fix, or at least try to be very mindful of and not say anything. It is accidental whenever it happens. This is part of the structure of the way that my memory works. I remember mostly generalized shapes or big picture, then small details and things like exact numbers are harder to remember. And sometimes I mix people up.  I went back and was reading that topic that I mentioned yesterday, and it was Henu the Great that said those things. I just remembered that I was strongly disagreeing with you, and I remembered those statements, and I mixed them together in my memory. I am very sorry for this and I wish I never said anything.

About helping people, I have full respect for your way of doing it. You're right that making people find the answer for themself is the best way to have full understanding. My intention is to get as many people as possible all working in the right direction as quickly as possible. But then they will have to learn your way to really understand. I think that your way is like a library and my way is like the internet. Somebody going to the library and reading a lot of books is going to have the fullest understanding, but it will take a lot of time. The internet will give them the answer very quickly, but will not give much information other than the specific question. I think both are very important.

About addictions and health, I have full respect for you and your opinions. My only difference of opinion from you is small and not important. You and Blitzkreig are two of the people I have the highest respect for about with health advice. I am very thankful for your health advice and I know it is always perfect quality.

I also have the most respect for your knowledge of how languages work. I think you are the greatest expert that we have for the old languages like Sanskrit and Greek. I am always amazed by the information you share about this. I am very thankful for you and Jack for this kind of knowledge.

I think part of our misunderstandings was related to me using bold text sometimes. I write a comment that I think is completely innocent with no negativity intended, just with a small different opinion. And I think you thought the bold was me yelling at you or trying to argue when it wasn't. This is what happened on my Blood Drinking Rats topic this summer. Then more recently you were saying something like me using bold text makes me look like an infiltrator, or you don't like it because Aldrick used bold sometimes and it reminds you of him. I hope I explained well enough on that topic that my intentions are not bad and I just like the way it looks.


I was feeling bad about it today when I was writing these comments to you. Part of me didn't want to do it, but part of me thought that it needed to happen. We tried to find the reason a few times but never got to the center of it. I think a big part of our conflict is we both have felt this uneasy feeling about each other, or that we can't completely trust each other. I think that we needed to discuss this fully and not hide anything. And if neither of us is hiding anything about what we are thinking, then neither of us can have any hidden motivations. Like how an injury has to heal from the inside to the outside so it doesn't get infected inside. After discussing this with you I am feeling a weight be removed from me, and I hope that you will also feel a weight be removed from you. I hope that we will heal this and remove any negativity that there was between us. We can ignore each other if you think it's a good idea, but I don't think it's necessary anymore.
 
jrvan said:
That's my perspective anyway. Maybe I missed something the guy said. If you weren't referring to my earlier comments then I apologize. I'm sure this is a very tired subject already.

To prevent further confusion and clarify for you, HP HoodedCobra was referring to what "The Outlaw Torn" wrote earlier in this topic, not something you wrote on this topic, so do not worry about that.
 
The Outlaw Torn said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
You come to Satan's family, and you promote violence to be done against Satan's children. You promote for violence to be done against millions of innocent White women and children. Which is a pure example of evil jew rat behavior, which 99.9999% of people would be absolutely disgusted against.

And still you are not banned when you are the absolute opposite of all of us. We are here to protect our people, and you are here to harm our people. And still you are not banned somehow.

And all you can do is go around complaining and "tattle tailing to the teacher" [Cobra] that all the other people disagree with you and it's not fair that nobody agrees with you. This is not anybody's fault except yourself.

We are here to protect our people. We are here to help our people. And shut down rotting, subversive, damaging influence which is attempting to harm our people. Which you are this worthless subversive damaging influence. I actually used to respect you before you recently showed who you really are.

If you say that you want millions of my white women and children to be raped, my response is that you are the lowest example of worthless subversive rat. And all other Satanists are going to have the same reaction as me, but they may choose not to say anything or try to say it in a nicer way but this is the reaction that all of us have in our soul against you. You are trying to harm our women and children, so every amount of life in our souls is to disagree with you and go against you. We are the immune system and you are the disease, it is called self preservation and preservation of our people.
Who let you out of the asylum you lunatic no one said any of that, but actually thank you for proving my point. Your status allows you to just say wild conjecture about me and you won’t be accountable for it because of such. Now go take your Prozac and calm the hell down and quit acting like some panicked woman. You’re embarrassing yourself.


. We don’t need lesser races around that’s why Hitler actually should have conquered the Slavs and had the Superior German army implant the slav women with the genetically superior seed. But behind all of your REEEEing you don’t understand that.

Rape is Sex+power and those are the 2 things that make the entire world function not your utopian horseshit theory about humans all being ONE United people. You call me subversive but you literally sound like a new ager.

You are promoting rape against Slavs. You are the one not beeing held acountable for the things you write.
 
The Outlaw Torn said:

One could argue that no one should ever have to pay their money and wealth every month just for basic survival necessities like food, water and shelter, the ability to travel (cars), and connect with people (phones) etc. Our ancestors didn't have to pay for most of these things, if they wanted water they went to their wells or rivers and collected it. Maybe we shouldn't have to, but someone else needs these same things we do. If workers don't get paid for their work just to make your own life a little easier to live, then they go hungry and society falls apart. People agree to pay to have these things for themselves, and so provide services to others in exchange and the cycle loops itself. It's a trade between people of the same society, and even if we don't know anyone outside our bubbles it all works together like bees in a beehive. If not for our wealth being cursed and stolen by kikes, and corruption in our legal and political positions, this entire system though imperfect would be much easier to live in.

If a landlord doesn't own your home the bank does, most don't have the means to own their homes and pay off their mortgage (it has the latin word of death within it if that doesn't tell you something), then there's property tax. Not sure which is better - paying to a landlord or paying to a bank? At least you might get a decent landlord who gives a shit, but banks don't care if you lose your house or not, they only care about getting the money and keeping it coming. Heck you could be outright handing your wealth to a kike banker for all you know. With renting at least you're not under the illusion that your house belongs to you. Having your own house is not much different to renting, you're still paying someone else to have a roof over your head but somehow paying corrupted banks is better than being under landlords? They're the lord of that land, and in exchange for living there you give the them an income so they can eat too, and you do your own jobs for the benefit of your community in exchange for income. It sounds more like there's an issue with owing anyone anything, or being ruled over so to speak.

If you don't like it climb higher on the ladder, or live remotely away from society conveniences and luxuries and do everything yourself without having to pay anyone for the work they do to keep you alive. This is the system we live in right now and it's going to take a while to make it something better.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
I do have a problem with hyperbole and over generalizing sometimes. I am very sorry for doing this to you, and I regret it every time it happened. And I regret every time I did it to a few other people. This is something that I am going to try to fix, or at least try to be very mindful of and not say anything. It is accidental whenever it happens. This is part of the structure of the way that my memory works. I remember mostly generalized shapes or big picture, then small details and things like exact numbers are harder to remember. And sometimes I mix people up.  I went back and was reading that topic that I mentioned yesterday, and it was Henu the Great that said those things. I just remembered that I was strongly disagreeing with you, and I remembered those statements, and I mixed them together in my memory. I am very sorry for this and I wish I never said anything.

Thank you for acknowledging this. I also don't want to sound know-it-all but one thing you mentioned (hyperbole) is one of the principles behind memory for all humans. To put it in different terms, people remember better things if they use exaggeration to learn them. Another thing is also emotion. Associating or feeling a strong emotion helps remember things too.

Sometimes my memory generalises too. For example, I know people who have contributed and helped the community, but sometimes I cannot pinpoint how they did it. It's like I make all the arguments and have all the evidence of that behaviour, then I reach a conclusion and throw away all the rest. This happens with many things, such as when I read about health and training, I go through the studies then reach my conclusions and forget even where the studies are and what they are called, who was involved, etc. This on the forum is especially notable when it comes to people I do not interact often with.


Ol argedco luciftias said:
About helping people, I have full respect for your way of doing it. You're right that making people find the answer for themself is the best way to have full understanding. My intention is to get as many people as possible all working in the right direction as quickly as possible. But then they will have to learn your way to really understand. I think that your way is like a library and my way is like the internet. Somebody going to the library and reading a lot of books is going to have the fullest understanding, but it will take a lot of time. The internet will give them the answer very quickly, but will not give much information other than the specific question. I think both are very important.
So I was wrong about this assumption. Thanks for clarifying. I was also think when I woke this morning that I really shouldn't be pushy about which teaching/helping style is more correct. Some people, for example, do not want to learn how to be independent mages: they just need help with something and it's okay for people to act in the role of a consultant, rather than a teacher. This much like one goes to the doctor to have medicine prescribed or the accountant to understand taxation for the year. There is nothing wrong with that and I am wrong in thinking that everyone should learn everything. So, it seems in some ways we agree here.

Ol argedco luciftias said:
About addictions and health, I have full respect for you and your opinions. My only difference of opinion from you is small and not important. You and Blitzkreig are two of the people I have the highest respect for about with health advice. I am very thankful for your health advice and I know it is always perfect quality.
Then I will admit I was wrong about this reasons.

Ol argedco luciftias said:
I also have the most respect for your knowledge of how languages work. I think you are the greatest expert that we have for the old languages like Sanskrit and Greek. I am always amazed by the information you share about this. I am very thankful for you and Jack for this kind of knowledge.
Thanks. However, I don't think I really know that much about this. I wish I knew a lot more.

Ol argedco luciftias said:
I think part of our misunderstandings was related to me using bold text sometimes. I write a comment that I think is completely innocent with no negativity intended, just with a small different opinion. And I think you thought the bold was me yelling at you or trying to argue when it wasn't. This is what happened on my Blood Drinking Rats topic this summer. Then more recently you were saying something like me using bold text makes me look like an infiltrator, or you don't like it because Aldrick used bold sometimes and it reminds you of him. I hope I explained well enough on that topic that my intentions are not bad and I just like the way it looks.
You are right I find this as an eye-rolling situation, but I think I exaggerated the other time by bringing up an unfair comparison. Yes, he did that. No, it doesn't mean you are alike in other ways.

Ol argedco luciftias said:
I was feeling bad about it today when I was writing these comments to you. Part of me didn't want to do it, but part of me thought that it needed to happen. We tried to find the reason a few times but never got to the center of it. I think a big part of our conflict is we both have felt this uneasy feeling about each other, or that we can't completely trust each other. I think that we needed to discuss this fully and not hide anything. And if neither of us is hiding anything about what we are thinking, then neither of us can have any hidden motivations. Like how an injury has to heal from the inside to the outside so it doesn't get infected inside. After discussing this with you I am feeling a weight be removed from me, and I hope that you will also feel a weight be removed from you. I hope that we will heal this and remove any negativity that there was between us. We can ignore each other if you think it's a good idea, but I don't think it's necessary anymore.
I agree with you on this, literally on everything. I think someone must have done a working to achieve this result because yesterday it did not seem possible to me. Or maybe they asked the Gods to clear the situation up. I admit I also tried cutting the negative entanglements between our souls yesterday before going to sleep, and burning them off completely, but that couldn't have been enough on its own, which is why I believe at least one of the two things above is the case. I was feeling worn-out from the conversation with you because I just couldn't believe some of the things you said about me and I don't think it is good for two dinosaurs like us to be that hostile to each other. Not because of appearances and public image, but because of the way I see this community.

I would like to see us both becoming Guardians in the future, which is another reason I felt like a clarification between us was necessary. If there is something else you wanted me to say and I haven't, please let me know, as I can be forgetful. If there is anything you would like to see me do better, please don't hesitate to tell me, either privately or publicly. I always take in what people say, even if it may not seem so, unless their messages 80% insults and 20% anything else.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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