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I want family & kids :( help

Wouldn't an advance person - a Daemon - know your desires more than you, since They can see into your Soul and probably know, or can see, your Astrologyl therefore, not lock you into a contract or obligation or promise like an idiot or offender would? I think yes; therefore, I ask - do you really, actually have a Daemon Lover, or are you just thinking that you have one?
 
FancyMancy said:
Wouldn't an advance person - a Daemon - know your desires more than you, since They can see into your Soul and probably know, or can see, your Astrologyl therefore, not lock you into a contract or obligation or promise like an idiot or offender would? I think yes; therefore, I ask - do you really, actually have a Daemon Lover, or are you just thinking that you have one?

Yes, they can see this. Sometimes, it is possible for a person to overcome a problem that may have inhibited them, making the Gods' efforts worthwhile. This relationship with the incubus may have served them well until this point, again why it would have been useful for them.

If this person is undergoing a transit, or perhaps a biological process, making them want to raise a family, then I believe the expectation is for them to handle these urges responsibly. This could mean talking out something with their Demon lover or breaking up in a mutual manner.
 
Stormborn Warrior said:
Would you like to have children or a family with someone other than your Demon Lover?

Yours is a burning desire, but trying to fulfil it can lead to disappointment, I explain that a relationship with someone outside your Demon Lover is likely to be unsatisfactory.

And so the only solution would be to be patient and take care of other things for now.

I had a similar problem, I needed physical love, but once I tried it, it did not satisfy me.
The only being I want is my Demoness, I realised this after I was after certain impulses and desires, but in these impulses I was looking for something I could not find, namely my Demoness, these impulses led me to fall in love with certain people just because they were physical, but once I tried the physical I was not satisfied.

This can also apply to you, once you have a family you may be dissatisfied because you really only want to be with your Demon Lover.

This may vary depending on the type of relationship you have with your Demon Lover.
 
You can try hanging out with any kids that your other family members have, or babysitting. That might fulfill this need.

You should also have an honest discussion about your needs. Your Demon love might even have advice for you, and you don't need to make any decision like this alone. Just speak with them while being open and honest.

Don't go in with the intention to break up or to solve this dilemma on your own. Let them be part of the decision process too.
 
Veritá_666 said:
Stormborn Warrior said:
Would you like to have children or a family with someone other than your Demon Lover?

Yours is a burning desire, but trying to fulfil it can lead to disappointment, I explain that a relationship with someone outside your Demon Lover is likely to be unsatisfactory.

And so the only solution would be to be patient and take care of other things for now.

I had a similar problem, I needed physical love, but once I tried it, it did not satisfy me.
The only being I want is my Demoness, I realised this after I was after certain impulses and desires, but in these impulses I was looking for something I could not find, namely my Demoness, these impulses led me to fall in love with certain people just because they were physical, but once I tried the physical I was not satisfied.

This can also apply to you, once you have a family you may be dissatisfied because you really only want to be with your Demon Lover.

This may vary depending on the type of relationship you have with your Demon Lover.

I love my demon love so much. i wont ever leave him.

I spoke to him about how i am feeling and he makes my heart feel better.

I would never find anyone like him in this world and i know i wont be happy or love anyone else that's not him. I love him and want to make him happy.

I wouldn't be happy or satisfied with anyone else.

Thnx for your honesty and your comment. I really appreciate it. :3
 
Stormborn Warrior said:
I love my demon love so much. i wont ever leave him.

Then the solution for you is to wait until you can have kids with him. Or, Flowers of Adonis gave a good suggestion to try to mother other children in your life. Hopefully, this will alleviate your desires.
 
Sundara said:

Having kids with a demon is not outside the realm of possibility, although of course, it will not happen any time soon. The idea of even having a relationship with a demon should be considered just as strange as having kids with them, yet that is a reality.

When we are trying to obtain happiness, this cannot always be safely found by other humans, especially those that do not meditate. I'm not sure what you mean about considering them as SS, because I would not consider anyone that just because they are connected to you.

The reason one should be hopeful about a relationship with a demon is because of their ability to be very good lovers. I would be very hesitant to suggest this person break up, especially since they already get along so well. As far as people who can teach us, again, a demon can fulfill that role, too.

Just as you suggest it may be overly naive to expect the Gods to "whisk us away", I could say the same about thinking one can find a suitable partner to easily replace their demon of three years.

Although I believe similarly in regards to being compassionate towards everyone, I don't think it is wise to consider humans and demon as equal in their relationship abilities. That may end in pain for the person in question, which is why I suggested keeping their current relationship.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Sundara said:

Having kids with a demon is not outside the realm of possibility, although of course, it will not happen any time soon. The idea of even having a relationship with a demon should be considered just as strange as having kids with them, yet that is a reality.

When we are trying to obtain happiness, this cannot always be safely found by other humans, especially those that do not meditate. I'm not sure what you mean about considering them as SS, because I would not consider anyone that just because they are connected to you.

The reason one should be hopeful about a relationship with a demon is because of their ability to be very good lovers. I would be very hesitant to suggest this person break up, especially since they already get along so well. As far as people who can teach us, again, a demon can fulfill that role, too.

Just as you suggest it may be overly naive to expect the Gods to "whisk us away", I could say the same about thinking one can find a suitable partner to easily replace their demon of three years.

Although I believe similarly in regards to being compassionate towards everyone, I don't think it is wise to consider humans and demon as equal in their relationship abilities. That may end in pain for the person in question, which is why I suggested keeping their current relationship.



Not everything said on here is a one size fits all, But cheers to that brother. I still don't think demon is a proper term though for those we love, Keep in mind respect as well, as I do.
 
Sundara said:
Not everything said on here is a one size fits all, But cheers to that brother. I still don't think demon is a proper term though for those we love, Keep in mind respect as well, as I do.

Maybe there is some misunderstanding here. I was using the term demon with its Satanist (positive) connotation, not its mainstream one. Actually, I like the term demon lover better than succubus/incubus, which I view as more related to notions of sexual monsters than lovers.
 
NakedPluto said:
She is just trying to provoke and subvert as per her little mind, don't take into account what this individual says. She is deranged and uses a "didn't do nothing" attitude to poke around.

Good thing that you are here. Keep on good regulation.
 
Sundara said:
It's just not always that simple when it comes to having families, but I have a great respect for those in relationships. They can ask about ways around this like blitz said. There's a lot of information about these relationships in many other threads on here. Highly recommend reading them. I wish anyone trying to have a family luck. If someone is in a monogamous relationship and wanting to have a family well, that is extremely personal. No one could really speak on that but the two.
When one is in monogamous relationship there is no "going around" without compromising the relationship. I mean okay, nice try explaining your position out of this. It's totally okay for someone to ask other parties advice for their relationship. It seems you have no good intentions so your input is pretty much null and void.
 
When someone asks for their account to be deleted, that's an obvious sign that interests have shifted. After the request was denied, she had some time to reflect, and started participating again. Isn't it obvious what that means? As is clear as day here, she decided to continuing to participate while staying true to her own beliefs and opinions, even if others may disagree.

What you see here is the consequence of your actions by encouraging her to stay despite her reasons to want to leave. You got what you asked for, and now she is expressing her own opinions rather than simply going along with the group consensus.

It's a bit ironic for someone who said he believes in flying brooms in a literal sense to call someone deranged, but I can see how a person who is stubborn even about things that are considered basic consensus may be seen as damaging to group unity.

But again, this is what you asked for. Several of you asked her to stick around, and now you can't stand her? How hypocritical.

If I had to guess what made her realise she's a misfit around here, it was probably the consensus about vaccines. If you consider her own circumstances, there are several reasons why she in particular might disagree with some of the things people said.
Well, perhaps this can be a lesson for you, in one way or another.
 
Achatina Prisma said:
When someone asks for their account to be deleted, that's an obvious sign that interests have shifted. After the request was denied, she had some time to reflect, and started participating again. Isn't it obvious what that means? As is clear as day here, she decided to continuing to participate while staying true to her own beliefs and opinions, even if others may disagree.

What you see here is the consequence of your actions by encouraging her to stay despite her reasons to want to leave. You got what you asked for, and now she is expressing her own opinions rather than simply going along with the group consensus.

It's a bit ironic for someone who said he believes in flying brooms in a literal sense to call someone deranged, but I can see how a person who is stubborn even about things that are considered basic consensus may be seen as damaging to group unity.

But again, this is what you asked for. Several of you asked her to stick around, and now you can't stand her? How hypocritical.

If I had to guess what made her realise she's a misfit around here, it was probably the consensus about vaccines. If you consider her own circumstances, there are several reasons why she in particular might disagree with some of the things people said.
Well, perhaps this can be a lesson for you, in one way or another.


If I had to guess

Indeed. You obviously did not read my post about information that was exchanged that came from her own words about utter betrayal of JOS. if you did and made this post, you are just trying to stir the pot.

When she announced she was leaving the forums pretty much none of us knew what was taking place or what was going on, until it was revealed in private her ideas and intentions which more of us got word of.

Before butting in maybe make sure you have all the right information about what's going on or at least ask before going around wagging your finger at the actual not hypocrites for calling out a traitor. If you think a traitor should just be excused, and forgiven almost immediately with all forgotten in a day then I say take your ass back to church because this isn't a place for xtian tier copious turn the cheek forgiveness.

If you want to turn the other cheek go back to church.....We are SS.
 
VoiceofEnki said:

I thought the same thing. What exactly are others supposed to teach us about ourselves? We should know ourselves well through our meditations and astrology.

But even worse, they were saying this in reference to demon relationships. So they did not mean connect with others, like one's GD, but to Jordan Peterson, as you mention, who can spin a Mercurial web.

Perhaps a newer person, with limited experience, may not understand the Gods as well, but someone who has 13 (or 14?) years as an SS should have a library of good experience.

I have realized that the Gods were always behind me, even from Day 1, even if I didn't recognize it. Despite me unintentionally blocking help, they were always supporting and pushing me along. It is basically impossible to not develop a strong love for them.
 
Shadowcat said:
Achatina Prisma said:
When someone asks for their account to be deleted, that's an obvious sign that interests have shifted. After the request was denied, she had some time to reflect, and started participating again. Isn't it obvious what that means? As is clear as day here, she decided to continuing to participate while staying true to her own beliefs and opinions, even if others may disagree.

What you see here is the consequence of your actions by encouraging her to stay despite her reasons to want to leave. You got what you asked for, and now she is expressing her own opinions rather than simply going along with the group consensus.

It's a bit ironic for someone who said he believes in flying brooms in a literal sense to call someone deranged, but I can see how a person who is stubborn even about things that are considered basic consensus may be seen as damaging to group unity.

But again, this is what you asked for. Several of you asked her to stick around, and now you can't stand her? How hypocritical.

If I had to guess what made her realise she's a misfit around here, it was probably the consensus about vaccines. If you consider her own circumstances, there are several reasons why she in particular might disagree with some of the things people said.
Well, perhaps this can be a lesson for you, in one way or another.


If I had to guess

Indeed. You obviously did not read my post about information that was exchanged that came from her own words about utter betrayal of JOS. if you did and made this post, you are just trying to stir the pot.

When she announced she was leaving the forums pretty much none of us knew what was taking place or what was going on, until it was revealed in private her ideas and intentions which more of us got word of.

Before butting in maybe make sure you have all the right information about what's going on or at least ask before going around wagging your finger at the actual not hypocrites for calling out a traitor. If you think a traitor should just be excused, and forgiven almost immediately with all forgotten in a day then I say take your ass back to church because this isn't a place for xtian tier copious turn the cheek forgiveness.

If you want to turn the other cheek go back to church.....We are SS.
It's not like I disagree with you. As I wrote, the extent of disrespect she displayed for consensus is harmful to group unity, making her presence itself harmful, thereby making her no different from an infiltrator. Especially going as far as to say one shouldn't refer to a Demon partner as a Demon because she considers it "disrespectful", despite the term being used here to indicate wisdom and power, speaks volumes. It would've been excusable for a newbie who is here to learn, but clearly her intentions are different.

However, I think people are hypocrites for asking her to stay, when this outcome was obvious as soon as she asked for her account to be deleted. That said, I'll admit that it took me by surprise as well somewhat; I had previously looked up to her for her life experience.

As you say, I'm unaware of private discussions that took place. Nor did I want to take NakedPluto's word for it, due to his history of exaggerating matters. As for you, I hadn't noticed your posts yet, but even if I had, you hadn't clarified the basis of your accusations. With that in mind, I wanted to point out the issue with Sundara's public behaviour, rather than taking another's word for it.
But if you say it's based on her own words in private, that's clear enough.

Back to church... the last time I went, staff complained to my parents about me being a disobedient problem child. I think I'll pass ^^'
In hindsight, if I wanted clarification, I should've just asked instead of assuming anything. But you clarified anyway, so this works too.

Nonetheless, I'm sorry for being unnecessarily rude and confrontational about it. I'll learn from this and attempt to improve. Just because I was always like this, doesn't mean I can't learn to be more considerate if I try. Actually, years ago I was diagnosed with a form of high functioning autism, but I was in denial about it for a long time. But recently I realised I show symptoms after all, and it made me think that I should look into ways to actually lessen those symptoms, rather than just taking my poor social skills for granted.

There is one more thing that is unclear to me. You seem to be implying that she has Yehuborim ancestry. Is that based on her words too?
If so, that makes the situation more serious. But some people said the same about Jack, so I tend to assume it's just speculation.
 
NakedPluto said:

It seems a bit harsh and unnecessary to go as far as you did. I am unable to see how you were attacked. I also do not see anything mentioned about your use of the word "deranged."
 
I've reflected on the conflict earlier, and concluded the following.

People have often been wrong about all manner of things, and gradually learned from their mistakes and discovered the Truth. I believe that to be a testament to the intelligence, adaptability and creativity of humanity. Therefore, to question what others say is sane, and disagreements are simply a part of the learning process for everyone. However, that is not a valid reason to "attack" others.

To look down on others for being at a different stage of a learning process is naive, as it only distracts oneself from the things one still needs to learn, and results in pointless social friction. In severe cases, it may be more efficient to walk one's own path; but most of the time, it's far more beneficial to focus not on what one knows better than others, but on what one can learn from another.

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Regarding the topic of this thread, different people will give different advice depending on their priority (romance/loyalty vs children). It's a situation where it's necessary to compromise on one matter or the other, and this can lead to potentially heated disagreements.

There are many different kinds of relationships, so as some others have stated, the OP should really discuss this with her partner. What really matters is what's important to her and her partner both. The priorities of other people here are irrelevant.
 

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