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How to make a woman feel extreme lust?

tyrantmage said:
Mondol said:
Sundara said:
This isn’t Christianity or Islam and these were not the ancient ways, we’re also not living in ancient times or the dark ages. Nobody needs permission to have sex and nobody needs to be married to have sex. No one needs their parents permission either. These are islamic or devout christian/flds ways of thinking and are extreme. Most Christians don’t even abide by this.

Yeah consent and respect is important but magic works a little differently and this is not rape. Lol.

Random freedom sex without having permission of parents or society will destroy the discipline of society and will make a muck of something, will make society darty.

We need permission to have sex to a certain person. We need permission to get married to a certain person.
We need permission and need support of law or society to have sex to a certain person. We need permission and need support of law or society to get married to a certain person.

If Nobody needs permission to have sex and if nobody needs to be married to have sex and if no one needs their parents permission either,and if don't need permission to have sex, then would you mind, can I have a night with your love partner and can I have a night with Hp cobra's life partner? No, right. :evil:

Listen to me . Spiritual Satanism/ Human mankind's life means to empowers one's self

Sex is another topic and is not mixed with Satanism

Having sex with a certain person or certain person's require permission of law and society and of course parents.

Having sex require discipline and need aggree of society and law.

If we want to you have sex with married women, we need to talk with her and need support or permission and need a date time of discussion about sex or marriage. But, we don't have permission to betray the women's husband without any reason.

By the way, Hail Satan.

get your communist shit outta here! Permission my ass. Ohw, wait.... Yes ofcourse, we need to ask president elect joe biden first before we can have sex! Hahahaha. Because in the new america you cannot have sex with the person you want goy! We will choose for you. Just be obedient and compliant goy! Dont be horny goy!

Whats the purpose of all these love and lust spells in the jos main website if we are not going to use them? Just because you use lust spells doesnt mean we are evil. What? You cant have sex if youre not married? Another Xtian and pisslam bullshit! Why cant you have sex when not married? Oh... Right... BECAUSE THE Yehubor IN THE CLOUDS WILL BURN YOU IN HE..AAHHEEMM!!!! ..LL 😂😂😂
And you also said sex is separate somewhat from satanism, right! That gives me an Idea of what you think satanism is. Satan doesnt give a fuck about who you decide to have sex with! He is not someone who will spy on you 24/7 so that he can make sure you have sex only when married. You are projecting jewsus chrishit on Lord Satan. Because jewsus crishit watches you goy, dont be horny goy, dont even masturbate goy! g-d is watching you goy. Im glad you found your way here, or maybe Lord satan found you and gave you a chance. but if you stay here longer, you will be able to deprogram yourself from all those xtianity shit. Just keep reading the sermons from our hp's daily and try to bring those teachings to your heart. I was once like you. Deprograming oneself can be hard. But the more you remove those Yehuborim filth from yourself the better you will feel.
Hey hey Hey wait wait.....Call me Evil Goy!!!!! Okhay!!!!! Hhahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I am permanently free from Yehuborim Magic.
And, I am not poor beginner like you in Satanism . So, Don't teach me about Satanism. Okhay??!!!!!! Hahahahaha :lol: :lol:

By the way, I am not here to fight with you in this topic. You, Do meditation everyday. Meditation will keep you calm always. Meditation will teach you how to talk with Satanist with politely, respectly. Okhay?

So, In the end, According to your advise, May I fuck your wife, or gf ? If Satanism advise me without any reason and permission of law, to fuck women, then my only one wish.... I want fuck every men's wife. Yeah !!!!All world women is mine. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

Sell your wife without any permission , goy !!!!!!!! :cool:
We want to be God and sell your wife Goy!!! Because Without more sex, We can't open our Kundalini right????!!!!!!!! :x :x


Oh oh oh goy!!! I forget to say!!!!! Bear in mind that Satan don't give time to those who fight and argument with another Satanist . Yes yes yes I have this knowledge!!!! Yeahhh!!!!! So, If you don't like me , don't talk with me. You will lose your Satan Forever . Because, You have started fight with me by your Bad words . You have said me that Satan is not spying me. ..hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okhay okhay listen to me. You have said me to deprogram myself from jewshit. No, goy. First Deprogram yourself from grey's. Yehuborim are completely controling you and your head to do quarrel with me . After reading my this post, Yehuborim and grey's will completely and permanently control you to fight and quarrel with me for loosing me vs with you So, First , Deprogram yourself. Otherwise, you will be fucked!!!!! Goy!!!!!!!!

And, Remember ,,,, Satan is caring always and forever me when I get birth in my mom's belly.

So, I teach you. Do meditation! It will calm your mind and angryhead. Do meditation . Meditation will keep you safe from doing quarrels with me.


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Jack said:
FancyMancy said:
ShadowTheRaven said:
Are you trying to make a Star Trek joke and a Big Bang Theory joke at the same time, Captain Picard?
Not quite a joke, but the two have gone together. Maybe "love doesn't exist" is a Borg sentiment who try to find and achieve perfection while they don't know what they're looking for...


Jack said:
What I'm trying to say is that "Love" is an idealistic interpretation created by the higher brain which creates such interpretations. Generally in life, all such interpretations turn out to be wrong.

There are better physical phenomena that serve as indicators to replace this magical notion of "love".

For Example,

Compliance I.e is the woman doing what you tell her to do.

Compatibility I.e you can vibe with her very well and you agree much more that you disagree. Astrological Compatibility is key.

Sexual Attraction I.e does she want to have your p in her v ,does she want to be the mother of your children (probably most important.)

Trust I.e you trust each other totally.

I mean instead of something I can't explain or understand, which the brain is purposely trying to cause to create a sense of Idealism (due to the lack of true purpose ). I'd look at observable reality not magical notions.

There are a lot of women who will have sex with you but are insufferable to be around for an extended period of time. And there are a lot of women who don't feel attraction for you. There are a lot who feel your a pussy, or they don't like you, your personality or character. There's no compatibility.

These are all very real and observable things.
So you want a Woman to be your subject? You might enjoy the jewbuybull "defenition" of love -

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a ringing gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have absolute faith so as to move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and exult in the surrender of my body, but have not love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient; love is kind; it does not envy; it does not boast; it is not proud; it is not rude; it is not self-seeking; it is not easily-angered; love keeps no record of wrongs; love does not delight in evil, but rejoices in the truth. It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Love never fails; but where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be restrained; where there is knowledge, it will be dismissed. For we know in part and we prophesy in part; but when the perfect comes, the partial passes away. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I set aside childish ways. Now we see but a dim reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully-known, and now these three remain - faith, hope and love; but the greatest of these is love.


Perhaps you prefer other "definitions" of love -

Philia - mental/friendly love;
Eros - sexual/romantic love;
Agape - unconditional/altruistic love;
Storge - familial/empathetic love;
Philautia - self-love

By the way - you might say that love doesn't exist, but not everyone shares your Elements. Some are more emotional and sentimental and their love is as it is for them.

When I think of Love however, my mind goes to that song "What is Love." ?
https://youtu.be/CuDEP6eFkeA
There is no "definition" or "correct way" of love and loving and to do and have and be love/loved/loving. The reason "we" "have to" ask what love is, is because the Yehubor doesn't know what being a Human is, and all the Yehubor can do, has done, and continues to do, is appropriate/steal, twist, pervert and corrupt what Human is. Part of love is companionship and fellowship, to not be lonely but to have like-mindedness, etc. For some, sex, in whichever form/s, is love, etc. There is no dic(ta)tionary correct way or meaning or understanding. That's why we have this Magickal thing called Magick, so we can find those whom, while we cannot "define" it, share our own illogical nonsense of what being with someone, or some ones, male and/or female, is and means, in various ways.

So again - you want a Woman to be your subject? You can only 'vibe' with her if she obeys you, like a muslim or christian wife? If she wants to bare your Children, then I would hope you would trust her, which should be a form of love; it is not as if you would have nothing to do with her and hate her because she's a dirty, skanky bitch, so that you can get her pregnant. Towards your Children, would you be like Beverly Hofstadter in TBBT against Leonard? People have emotions and need Emotional support, as well as Physical contact and support. These are regarding the Brain and Soul and the Chakras which the Yehubor does not have; therefore, cannot possibly express. All the Yehubor can do is pretend and act.

Consider it in a National Socialism and Spiritual Satanism context. NS is the "definitions" of things and comportments and behaviours which are enforced and obligatory. SS is our own individuality in which we do, have and be our own selves. Poetry, stories, films, programmes, plays, songs, art, etc., etc, etc. have existed for a long time to either try to "define" and "explain" love, or to express love, and what love is and what it is and means to love and be loved. Check art threads on here, including my own and astralartsofthegods, and notice the difference between Human creativity and expression, and j00 piss-taking shit and vomit. Robots - either the Yehubor and its roboticness, or robots - will not love. Imitation is supposed to be the highest form of flattery, so the Yehubor must absolutely fucking 'love' Humans, but the Yehubor and robots are artificial and transparent; love is not logical nor sensible.

Not to make light of it, but let me ask you a question -

Where is love?
Does it fall from skies above?
Is it underneath the willow tree
that I've been dreaming of?

Where is she
whom I close my eyes to see?
Will I ever know the sweet "Hello"
that's meant for only me?

Who can say where she may hide?
Must I travel far and wide
'til I am beside the someone who
I can mean something to?

Where, where is love?

Ev'ry night I kneel and pray
"Let tomorrow be the day
when I see the face of someone who
I can mean something to

Where, where is love?


I really don't think logic will tell you. We have non-logic Brains. Maybe we should use them.
I dedicated my life to Yoga and performing sadhana and so I adopted the Philosophy of the yoga of action. I believe in the employment of will in the pursuit of Dharma (Duty) to be the end goal of all material life.

This is why I frequently reject imperfect assumptions borne out of an imperfect nature of existence that we exist in currently, to be my driver of life. I will use them only in the case it will help me exert my will otherwise I have no need for these assumptions.

I put my faith in obtaining perfect knowledge through the Superconciousness state of Samadhi and that is where truth is revealed.

I don't put my faith in imperfect notions borne out of an imperfect nature of being.

I believe in sex, dominance and submission ,liking ,connection and trust,energy, all of which can be measured but not in immeasurable notions like love.
I wonder if you might do non-yoga things, for achieving balance. Imbalance is leaning to one side, and that's where you'd fall over, and that's embarrassing and painful.
 
tyrantmage said:
Mondol said:
Sundara said:
This isn’t Christianity or Islam and these were not the ancient ways, we’re also not living in ancient times or the dark ages. Nobody needs permission to have sex and nobody needs to be married to have sex. No one needs their parents permission either. These are islamic or devout christian/flds ways of thinking and are extreme. Most Christians don’t even abide by this.

Yeah consent and respect is important but magic works a little differently and this is not rape. Lol.

Random freedom sex without having permission of parents or society will destroy the discipline of society and will make a muck of something, will make society darty.

We need permission to have sex to a certain person. We need permission to get married to a certain person.
We need permission and need support of law or society to have sex to a certain person. We need permission and need support of law or society to get married to a certain person.

If Nobody needs permission to have sex and if nobody needs to be married to have sex and if no one needs their parents permission either,and if don't need permission to have sex, then would you mind, can I have a night with your love partner and can I have a night with Hp cobra's life partner? No, right. :evil:

Listen to me . Spiritual Satanism/ Human mankind's life means to empowers one's self

Sex is another topic and is not mixed with Satanism

Having sex with a certain person or certain person's require permission of law and society and of course parents.

Having sex require discipline and need aggree of society and law.

If we want to you have sex with married women, we need to talk with her and need support or permission and need a date time of discussion about sex or marriage. But, we don't have permission to betray the women's husband without any reason.

By the way, Hail Satan.

get your communist shit outta here! Permission my ass. Ohw, wait.... Yes ofcourse, we need to ask president elect joe biden first before we can have sex! Hahahaha. Because in the new america you cannot have sex with the person you want goy! We will choose for you. Just be obedient and compliant goy! Dont be horny goy!

Whats the purpose of all these love and lust spells in the jos main website if we are not going to use them? Just because you use lust spells doesnt mean we are evil. What? You cant have sex if youre not married? Another Xtian and pisslam bullshit! Why cant you have sex when not married? Oh... Right... BECAUSE THE Yehubor IN THE CLOUDS WILL BURN YOU IN HE..AAHHEEMM!!!! ..LL 😂😂😂
And you also said sex is separate somewhat from satanism, right! That gives me an Idea of what you think satanism is. Satan doesnt give a fuck about who you decide to have sex with! He is not someone who will spy on you 24/7 so that he can make sure you have sex only when married. You are projecting jewsus chrishit on Lord Satan. Because jewsus crishit watches you goy, dont be horny goy, dont even masturbate goy! g-d is watching you goy. Im glad you found your way here, or maybe Lord satan found you and gave you a chance. but if you stay here longer, you will be able to deprogram yourself from all those xtianity shit. Just keep reading the sermons from our hp's daily and try to bring those teachings to your heart. I was once like you. Deprograming oneself can be hard. But the more you remove those Yehuborim filth from yourself the better you will feel.
Hey hey Hey wait wait.....Call me Evil Goy!!!!! Okhay!!!!! Hhahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I am permanently free from Yehuborim Magic.
And, I am not poor beginner like you in Satanism . So, Don't teach me about Satanism. Okhay??!!!!!! Hahahahaha :lol: :lol:

By the way, I am not here to fight with you in this topic. You, Do meditation everyday. Meditation will keep you calm always. Meditation will teach you how to talk with Satanist with politely, respectly. Okhay?

So, In the end, According to your advise, May I fuck your wife, or gf ? If Satanism advise me without any reason and permission of law, to fuck women, then my only one wish.... I want fuck every men's wife. Yeah !!!!All world women is mine. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

Sell your wife without any permission , goy !!!!!!!! :cool:
We want to be God and sell your wife Goy!!! Because Without more sex, We can't open our Kundalini right????!!!!!!!! :x :x


Oh oh oh goy!!! I forget to say!!!!! Bear in mind that Satan don't give time to those who fight and argument with another Satanist . Yes yes yes I have this knowledge!!!! Yeahhh!!!!! So, If you don't like me , don't talk with me. You will lose your Satan Forever . Because, You have started fight with me by your Bad words . You have said me that Satan is not spying me. ..hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okhay okhay listen to me. You have said me to deprogram myself from jewshit. No, goy. First Deprogram yourself from grey's. Yehuborim are completely controling you and your head to do quarrel with me . After reading my this post, Yehuborim and grey's will completely and permanently control you to fight and quarrel with me for loosing me vs with you So, First , Deprogram yourself. Otherwise, you will be fucked!!!!! Goy!!!!!!!!

And, Remember ,,,, Satan is caring always and forever me when I get birth in my mom's belly.
(Don't insult any mom here this topic, okhay!!I am saying this!!because After reading my post, Yehuborim and grey's will make you angry and will tell you to insult my mom!!, That's why I am saying!!!নাহলে পুটকিমারা খাবা!!!!!)

So, I teach you. Do meditation! It will calm your mind and angryhead. Do meditation . Meditation will keep you safe from doing quarrels with me. না হলে পুটকিমারা খাবা শয়তানের হাতে।।। :lol: :lol:


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Jack said:
Again - I think I should ping you to this post for some reason. I also want to call you Jack the Lad, as well, also for some reason... :p
 
Something that I’m seriously confused about is why some in this thread think it’s a fool-proof idea to try fit yourselves into a completely unrealistic and impractical mould that isn’t true to how you really are as a person in the hopes of attracting a “decent female” to “breed with”?

What good is it seeking out a relationship when all you’re going to do is pretend to be someone you’re not?

Being completely honest with yourself and not trying put on some macho act will actually better your chances of attracting someone naturally compatible with you and your energy than putting on a mask.

Men and women are not so many worlds apart in their desires on this. Few people - and unhealthy people, at that - actually like being with those who pretend to be someone else.

Women aren’t one dimensional robots who only like “that ONE type” and neither are men. If that was the case you may as well walk through the door over there that says “Clones Only”.

One bad experience or a couple bad experiences with unpleasant people doesn’t equal everyone being the same as them. What a world it would be if so.


To answer the OP, there’s a section in the meditations on santanisgod under how to use the aura that gives an example of affirmations for attracting someone. And imo, there’s nothing immoral about sex magick given 1) we are given the knowledge of it by the Gods, 2) it doesn’t harm said person, and 3) in my understanding it’s like the energy equivalent of putting on cologne or perfume to attract someone by smelling good. (I haven’t read every reply on this thread so someone may have already noted this).

(Hi/hello, first time saying anything here. Been lurking a few months.)
 
Cinammonroll said:
Jack said:

You should play all the games from Metal Gear Solid series, Jack.
I tried playing the Phantom Pain but it seemed really slow for my taste. Maybe I'll continue it after the economy collapses and I'm locked in my house again.
 
tabby said:
Something that I’m seriously confused about is why some in this thread think it’s a fool-proof idea to try fit yourselves into a completely unrealistic and impractical mould that isn’t true to how you really are as a person in the hopes of attracting a “decent female” to “breed with”?

Your personality is in most cases completely random. It's not "who you are" it's what you were raised to be or who you adapted yourself to be based on the environment you grew in and the behaviors of others around you. You didn't even choose it in the first place. So it's nothing but a set of conditioned reactions and many times they are not only conditioned but useless and cause many problems to yourself. I'm sure you know lots of middle aged people who behave like children sometimes, what they are doing is repeating their reactions they had as children, and while these made sense when they were children they are bad for adults.

So since personality is a set of conditioned reactions, there are ways to improve it and create it in the ways you want. If you become assertive, non-reactive and have boundaries, these traits are not only attractive to women but benefit your life overall.

tabby said:
What good is it seeking out a relationship when all you’re going to do is pretend to be someone you’re not?

That's a complete straw man. Nobody says you have to pretend you're something you're not. What they are saying is you have to change your personality. So this new personality will be the new you.

tabby said:
Women aren’t one dimensional robots who only like “that ONE type” and neither are men. If that was the case you may as well walk through the door over there that says “Clones Only”.

This is another straw man. Nobody said that every single woman is like that. Women do follow a general trend as to what they like. That's why they are surveys that show most women prefer masculine men. So just like in many other cases where they generalize based on some trend the same is for women. Sure, there's a small minority of women who like feminine men or are lesbians or like fat men or whatever. But they are the exception not the rule.
 
jrvan said:
Jack said:
Aquarius said:
That's bullcrap, are you sure you're not emotionally hurt by something? Normally people tend to say love doesn't exist when they suffered emotional traumas.
I'm not saying love does not exist ,I'm saying it doesn't exist in the way most people think it exists.

A host of feelings, emotions behaviors that already exist has been together labeled as 'love' and given an idealistic purpose to give it a magical sense of the word.

What I'm trying to say is, it is easier to look at each individual piece of the puzzle without thinking its something very special.

Because I don't think our forefathers gave this much importance to 'finding love' as this generation of men do.

Generally it's a very normal phase of experience for people and as most things in life are, not very special.

That's like saying a compound doesn't exist as anything more than its constituent elements, even though the compound is its own unique substance with its own unique properties. Ergo it's apparently pointless to take note of said compound, pointless to talk about it, pointless to seek it, and the cherry on top is that this compound is just a concept in our deluded minds with no tangible reality unto itself. Yes, this compound that is clearly observable... is in fact a lie. We made it up.
But that compound will have the same constituents for everyone. It is a perfect experience of nature. The compound Hcl wont suddenly become CO2 in the experience of another person.

But Love does not have same constituents for everyone. For different people, there are different interpretations of love. And as there are different interpretations, but not a universal rule, it is thus not real as opposed to the physical experience of the Sun which is real for everyone.

If you look at Hcl it will be the same compound for everyone. But love is different for different people. They understand it differently and different thoughts and understandings are involved for each different person.

It's the same case as different philosophies and ideologies about life. Like all Higher Brained notions they are attempts to create idealistic perfect interpretations about material reality.

However they end up being imperfect which is why there are hundreds of thousands of different ideologies and belief systems. Humans are not meant to have a perfect understanding of love because of different astrological makeup and emotional makeup and different expressions of past lives etc.

Which is why their brains interpret love differently. Meaning there is no one singular thing called "love". Everyone has their own little love ,which they made up from an imperfect interpretation. I'm not saying it's bad or maladaptive.

I'm just saying it's not as perfect as people think. Its just a normal everyday experience which is in no way 'special' or very important that people make out to be. Its similar to finding a job that makes you feel good at being the job or making a house and being proud you made it from scratch.

It's not an enigmatic thing to look up to, only something to be personally experienced and make up interpretations about. Like we do most things in the world.
 
If not all people can agree on what is sexually appealing, then nobody should have an unanimous opinion over what love is.

Frequently, there are people who say for example they "Love" Satan, or someone. Personally, I cannot comprehend a type of love that is not providing for what it loves, or a type of love that put's one's self always first without minding the other creature.

Others love seriously, deeply, others love superficially, some have tolerance, other's don't, others adore, others are adored. Others love idealistically, others verbally, others with practical actions, others secretly. For some, emotions similar to love, are confused with love.
 
Aquarius said:
I see. From reading his posts, I've deduced he would be type of a person that would like MGSes. Makes sense.

Jack said:
Well, Phantom pain is meant to be more rpg-ish.

Personally, I don't like video games 'cause they are solely produced to waste time, but MGSes are great.
 
tabby said:
...
(Hi/hello, first time saying anything here. Been lurking a few months.)

Finally someone who thinks like me regarding this topic.

Nailed it!

Also welcome Tabby :D
Finally you came out of your „hole“ x3
 
Damon said:
tabby said:
Something that I’m seriously confused about is why some in this thread think it’s a fool-proof idea to try fit yourselves into a completely unrealistic and impractical mould that isn’t true to how you really are as a person in the hopes of attracting a “decent female” to “breed with”?

Your personality is in most cases completely random. It's not "who you are" it's what you were raised to be or who you adapted yourself to be based on the environment you grew in and the behaviors of others around you. You didn't even choose it in the first place. So it's nothing but a set of conditioned reactions and many times they are not only conditioned but useless and cause many problems to yourself. I'm sure you know lots of middle aged people who behave like children sometimes, what they are doing is repeating their reactions they had as children, and while these made sense when they were children they are bad for adults.

So since personality is a set of conditioned reactions, there are ways to improve it and create it in the ways you want. If you become assertive, non-reactive and have boundaries, these traits are not only attractive to women but benefit your life overall.

tabby said:
What good is it seeking out a relationship when all you’re going to do is pretend to be someone you’re not?

That's a complete straw man. Nobody says you have to pretend you're something you're not. What they are saying is you have to change your personality. So this new personality will be the new you.

tabby said:
Women aren’t one dimensional robots who only like “that ONE type” and neither are men. If that was the case you may as well walk through the door over there that says “Clones Only”.

This is another straw man. Nobody said that every single woman is like that. Women do follow a general trend as to what they like. That's why they are surveys that show most women prefer masculine men. So just like in many other cases where they generalize based on some trend the same is for women. Sure, there's a small minority of women who like feminine men or are lesbians or like fat men or whatever. But they are the exception not the rule.


Surveys based on what data, how many women, and what generation? Because there’s a few billion women in the world of all ages, different backgrounds, different teachings… etc. A few surveys isn't going to be an accurate representation of them all, let alone the “majority”.

Claiming most women aren’t individual enough that they can be defined by a rule, and that all men need to do is alter themselves to that rule and they’ll get a girlfriend…

- Or in other words:

majority of women defined by your rule + men altering to that rule = neither sex being individual

And therefore, the point of being human and getting to know someone on a personal basis becomes entirely pointless
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When you start to apply such generalisations to the whole sex or the majority, you fall into the trap of defining the sex itself. It’s like you’re suggesting that lesbian / bisexual women or women who like non-macho types aren’t real women because they don’t fit into your rule of what the “majority” of women are “supposed” to desire according to “trends”.

Then you have the other side of the coin. Saying men have to change themselves entirely in order to get a woman? It’s suggesting men aren’t real men if they don’t conform to the “50’s style macho man-of-the-house”, because according to your rule that’s what attracts the “majority” of women, and therefore, “best chances at finding a partner and reproducing”.

Attempting to appear as some else with what one deems to be “desirable characteristics” that apply to a “generalised idea of how the sex is and what they find attractive” is pointless in the end.

There are plenty of women in the world who don’t find men who are “assertive, non-reactive and have boundaries” as you put it, attractive. (Boundaries is fine, everyone naturally has lines they don’t like crossed). As a female myself, forced macho traits aren’t appealing... they suggest to me a lack of self acceptance, emotional expression issues, and overcompensation to hide something they deem “undesirable”.

In saying that, I’m not so foolish to assume that every macho confident man has these underlying problems, especially if they are naturally confident - something you will only find out if you get to know someone on a personal level.

There’s no rule and no exception to the rule when it comes to who a person is. Nature demands uniqueness. Humans are individuals, and generalising the sexes only serves to divide them - not help them to get into a good healthy relationship. If there was a rule, so few would be alone and struggling in finding partners.

Being yourself rather than conforming to such strange ideals and actually allowing the other person to get to know you and you to know them on a PERSONAL NON-GENERALISED level, will get you much further in a relationship and form deeper bonds.


I’m noticing some make more effort in putting on a show to attract someone than they do in just becoming a healthy individual and viewing others as individuals.
 
NinRick said:
tabby said:
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(Hi/hello, first time saying anything here. Been lurking a few months.)

Finally someone who thinks like me regarding this topic.

Nailed it!

Also welcome Tabby :D
Finally you came out of your „hole“ x3

Thank you very much, NinRick!

Nice to meet you.
 
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
Jack said:
There's no such thing as Love. It was created by the Higher Brain to trick you into commitment to something, to give you purpose. It's a subjective idea that can mean anything to anyone.

Yeah I agree here when people are looking for a partner love is usually what they are looking for but everyone knows that feeling doesn’t last which is many couples get divorced, they never learned how to be with each other and just wanted to “love”. When that feeling went away they didn’t know what to do. The first thing I want from a woman is compatibility and friendship/loyalty. That is way more important than any idea of “love”.

That is not love. That is a crush/infatuation. Nothing to do with actual now. Mistaking it for love and rushing into things just shows how impatient, immature and shallow most people are nowadays, with the increase in these flaws starting to rise with generation X and reaching new heights with each generation.

Friendship is also a form of love. Just because it does not include eros/sex, it does not mean it's not love. Love is kama. Kama is deep emotional involvement with you, regarding them as your equal or even above you, a concept seldom understood in contemporary society where most Whites are polarised into excessive individualism.
 
Taking a reductionist approach to how people are supposed to be attracted to another person is only going to generate more and more delusions. A person is everything they are. Appearance, personality, lifestyle, etc. There are 12 houses, 12 signs and 10 planets in your chart for a reason. One cannot make an objective statement that one portion of someone's identity is superior to all other portions. Subjectively, each individual is attracted to a different mix and will put an emphasis on one or more aspects.

What happens at the individual level, however, does not give anyone the right to over-generalise and dictate on how other people should be, what they should look for and how should they behave. Likewise, just because in the modern, corrupted society there is a particular trend, it should not be taken as absolute law because we live in sick society. You do not study a sick lion to understand the physiology and psychology of a healthy lion. It would be counterintuitive.

Regarding who over-glamorises one goal of life over others, the same applies. There are multiple goals in life. Dharma, Kama, Artha, Moksha, Arogya. What one is naturally inclined to follow will be represented in the chart. Some may have an intense focus on only one, some not. While advancement is only possible through internal harmony, internal harmony does not mean that everything should be equally worth the same but that everything works together and is advanced together. Flattening everything to the same level kills uniqueness and makes us into droids, which is what the enemy has been after. Over-focus on what is not naturally supported in your soul because someone else pushes it is another path toward creating blockages and hang-ups along the way. Both, in fact, put you in a self-denial and self-hatred modality which eventually develops severe issues.

In conclusion, your blueprint is what should be followed, not what someone else tells you to do. Honest spiritual practice and genuine communion with the Gods will point you toward naturally eliminating the dross and refining your blueprint, which does not happen through killing parts of yourself out of prejudice.
 
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jrvan said:
Damon said:
Nobody said that every single woman is like that.

Women do follow a general trend as to what they like.
Lol.

So you cherry picked my post so to make it contradict itself when even the cherry picked part doesn't. You know that "women" doesn't mean every single woman right? Do you even know what a general trend means?

Why didn't you quote the entire context of what I said?

Damon said:
This is another straw man. Nobody said that every single woman is like that. Women do follow a general trend as to what they like. That's why they are surveys that show most women prefer masculine men. So just like in many other cases where they generalize based on some trend the same is for women. Sure, there's a small minority of women who like feminine men or are lesbians or like fat men or whatever. But they are the exception not the rule.

Maybe because it disproves your fake contradiction?
 
jrvan said:
Jack said:
jrvan said:
That's like saying a compound doesn't exist as anything more than its constituent elements, even though the compound is its own unique substance with its own unique properties. Ergo it's apparently pointless to take note of said compound, pointless to talk about it, pointless to seek it, and the cherry on top is that this compound is just a concept in our deluded minds with no tangible reality unto itself. Yes, this compound that is clearly observable... is in fact a lie. We made it up.
But that compound will have the same constituents for everyone. It is a perfect experience of nature. The compound Hcl wont suddenly become CO2 in the experience of another person.

But Love does not have same constituents for everyone. For different people, there are different interpretations of love. And as there are different interpretations, but not a universal rule, it is thus not real as opposed to the physical experience of the Sun which is real for everyone.

If you look at Hcl it will be the same compound for everyone. But love is different for different people. They understand it differently and different thoughts and understandings are involved for each different person.

It's the same case as different philosophies and ideologies about life. Like all Higher Brained notions they are attempts to create idealistic perfect interpretations about material reality.

However they end up being imperfect which is why there are hundreds of thousands of different ideologies and belief systems. Humans are not meant to have a perfect understanding of love because of different astrological makeup and emotional makeup and different expressions of past lives etc.

Which is why their brains interpret love differently. Meaning there is no one singular thing called "love". Everyone has their own little love ,which they made up from an imperfect interpretation. I'm not saying it's bad or maladaptive.

I'm just saying it's not as perfect as people think. Its just a normal everyday experience which is in no way 'special' or very important that people make out to be. Its similar to finding a job that makes you feel good at being the job or making a house and being proud you made it from scratch.

It's not an enigmatic thing to look up to, only something to be personally experienced and make up interpretations about. Like we do most things in the world.

The feeling of love itself is existing outside of the word love that we use to describe that distinct emotional state. It’s very real, and not only inside our minds because feelings have energy, and we could probably measure them if we had more advanced occult science tools. Love is a complex emotion made up of other emotions, but when we experience love we aren’t experiencing simply the emotions that make up the compound so to say of love. Just like water is water. Water is not hydrogen, and water is not oxygen. Water exists as its own unique tangible thing even if it’s made up of hydrogen and oxygen, and when we’re talking about oxygen or hydrogen on their own we don’t call them water. Just like we wouldn’t call the feelings of affection, or attraction, or care on their own, as love. And we don’t call love affection, or attraction, or care. We call it love because we have identified it as a distinct feeling deserving of its own name.

You’re saying that people are misidentifying the feelings and emotions that constitute what we label as love, and that also ties into my other message about reinventing the established language so I’ll just add that a lot of people have poor emotional intelligence, or poor descriptive abilities, or poor awareness, or maybe all of the above. When we have spiritual tools that can measure and properly identify emotional states within a person then we can properly categorize what exact combination of feelings are going into what we call love when people feel it, and it will be a firm objective understanding without room for individual interpretation except in the realm of poetry. In the meantime, you can’t say authoritatively that what people are feeling isn’t real just because it’s misidentified, or because they can’t properly talk about it/define it due to lack of ability.

It's not that people experience this complex emotion differently. Its differently present in different people.

Meaning what may be love for you might not be love for me. Which is why it doesn't exist outside someone's personal experience of reality.

Your experience of reality and thus your love, does not exist for me.

For example, someone might experience love to be a mesh of trust, connection, sexual attraction and compatibility.

While someone else might experience it as a master slave relationship.

Others might not care about trust and may be polyamorous.

Someone might believe in having rotation girls and he experiences love in that way through multiple women.

A teenager may feel infatuation and the need for validation is love.

An old man would want companionship above all.

Do you understand what I'm trying to tell you ?

By saying that Love does not exist I'm not saying it isn't present. Your LOVE is present ONLY for you ,it doesn't exist in me and so for me it does not exist as I don't experience it as you do.

Higher Brained notions are differently experienced by everyone, which is why they are called unreal as opposed to real because, they are real only for you. And they are constantly changing as you yourself change, unless if it's some kind of ideology which makes it set in stone.

Btw you can measure how you experience love in trance by meditating on the feeling. It might take some practice in energy manipulation. You will notice through the third eye that it's a mesh of different things, mainly emotions and desires bound together with different colors and shapes.

I'm not saying people are misidentifying the complex state. What I'm saying is because you can't measure its individual components separately and perform judgment upon them, you tend to make bad decisions. I'm all for having the full experience of emotions but don't let emotions drive you, always make your decisions with will.

I've made a lot of bad decisions because of this complex state called love. Only after I broke down the individual components could I judge that the kind of love I was pursuing was misguided and was leading to suffering for everyone. And only after that could I change my perception to entertain a more healthy state of love that wouldn't bring suffering to others and myself.

I had a very skewed and misguided approach to life ,particularly relating to the opposite sex. When I saw a girl ,I would first look at her body and then at her face and when I figured she was hot my understanding was that I had to have sex with her as soon as possible. This was my entire mindset and how I was experiencing love.I wasn't interested in knowing about them ,their personalities, their upbringing or values. I would only talk about that because it was important to create an artificial feeling of connection and trust.

In my mind I believed that having sex must mean that the girl must love me and allowing me to have sex with her must mean that she thinks about me as her partner. It was all very psychopathic in nature due to the way I was raised and I would say the exact same things to every girl and play a game of probability.

And so after going through rehabilitation and emotional detox under the guidance of the Gods, i figured out that the understanding of love I had was very skewed and twisted in nature and was wasting my time and others. And I would actually consider it love,because I was pursuing it.

But then after my Saturn transit hit hard, I had to reevaluate my values and remake them undergoing little deaths and trying to master the trance Meditations. I finally figured out that I had to individually understand what values I wanted and to pursue a woman based on searching those values, not based on physical attractiveness. It was also not the correct astrological time to get into a long term relationship and so I'm currently focusing heavily on my career building.

Here are some values that I found out to be my personal composition of love -

  • She needs to have a connection with me and must be intelligent like me so that I can share with her the complexity of the world and not just have her sit there and nod. I would want an above average intelligence, and rational person. I want her to 'get' me.

  • I need to feel like I can trust her so that I won't worry about other men. Because if I'm ever cheated upon I'm going to severely punish them in a way that would cause intense suffering for life.

  • She shouldn't be a feminist/marxist/anti Aryan in any way.

  • She should have my matching libido and Sexually compatible with me.

  • She shouldn't be a drama queen which I hate above all.

If all the ones are present i would probably like her. And if I feel that she has the capacity to commit to me in the same capacity that I can , then I would start loving her. And when I commit to something, I commit to it fanatically. So we're going to be together for life and I'll stick with her through thick and thin all the way.
 
Stormblood said:
That is not love. That is a crush/infatuation. Nothing to do with actual now. Mistaking it for love and rushing into things just shows how impatient, immature and shallow most people are nowadays, with the increase in these flaws starting to rise with generation X and reaching new heights with each generation.

Than it seems most people think infatuation is love. I’m not going to add on to this conversation anymore as it is going nowhere.
 
ShadowTheRaven said:
tabby said:

Probably a bad time, but welcome to the forums.

As you can see, we have no shortage of assholes but don't let that deter you or jrvan.

Thank you, ShadowTheRaven.

We’ve dealt with our fair share of people who don’t view us in good light before, just because we don’t fit into the mould of how people think we “should” be with each other.
 
jrvan said:
Jack said:
Just as the Yehuborim take over the world's most powerful countries (essentially the entire world) and the NWO becomes fully operational to usher in the new age of darkness.

I have my priorities straight - debating whether love exists or not.

This is ok. This is exactly what o thought I'd be doing at this time.
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Holy shit

You're the one who brought it into the conversation by just randomly declaring that love isn't real. I'm not sure what kind of response you expected, but you only have yourself to blame for any perceived waste of time. I assumed that you found it intellectually stimulating or else you wouldn't have bothered with further responses. *shrug*
*shrugs * *shrugs*
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