How to completely eliminate the need for sex and social connections?I'm in love forever but my partner is out of reach and we can't communicate.

[thank you every match]

This could go on for thousands of years, but I won't betray him and I don't want anyone else, even my passion for fantasizing about sex has disappeared. How can I ease my suffering?

 

[Henu the Great]

For sexual energy. Look up Mantak Chia, he has the resources to guide you to direct your sexual energy in a way that you desire (inward, circulating).

For the second question, there is no other "solution" than to deny your human nature, which then results in various types of damage over time. You really should accept the fact that you are part of a greater collective, and that you function as a part of it.

 

[Laelaps]

Eliminating the need for sex would cause a lot of mental stress for a human, if kept for a long time. Urge to be with someone, to love, to have sex is natural and is a necessity.

 

[Henu the Great]

Eliminating the need for sex would cause a lot of mental stress for a human, if kept for a long time. Urge to be with someone, to love, to have sex is natural and is a necessity.

Previously, I would have completely agreed with you. But now, things have changed as I have witnessed first-hand the alternative. The sexual energy does not need to be used for pleasure; it can be directed to one's health and well-being, eliminating the need for carnal pleasure. It can also be used for other higher purposes, such as meditation and other higher spiritual goals.

 

[logicalmind]

Let me give something as people have some stuff that is useless in most cases.

1. Love. You have no love now. Love in reality is something that people create through the long-term process. Usually, they confuse love with lust. Lust and love are different. Some stuff holds right, some does not. E.g., without lust, there can be no love. Without love, existence of lust is possible. But I am not going to give you advice on how to get lust without love. This is useless, stupid and results in degradation instead of real advancement.

2. Sex. Need for sex is supposed to be satisfied in order for the advancement of the whole collective psyche. Yes, you getting satisfied is advancing the whole of humanity given your morality is decent from birth. Those who say that there is no obligation towards anyone are just retarded stupid pieces of shit. This is proven wrong easily by the fact that we all have to follow the same law. Which means that humanity is socialistic by its nature. Not by the soviet standard, but by the Germanic standard of socialism which needs to be clarified properly.

Which is why civilizations that dare to call themselves advanced have prostitution properly legalized. So men would have sex as much as they want, and would be able to choose the wife they really want to love instead of creating stupid relationships just in order to satisfy their sexual needs. Some of the greatest men chose prostitutes for their wives like Aristotle. Later, this system was penalized. Those who introduced such a system where prostitution to be illegal must be prosecuted and executed as criminals against humanity.

So the most important question still remains. What can be done? This is what. You should understand that women literally do not care about how you look or whatever. They care about how you treat them. About what you stimulate them to care about in the context of you. Unless the woman is really in the level of divinity. But the woman in the level of divinity will be able to lead you in a way you will assume that it is you who is leading the scene, so the divine women are out of the question in the context of this discussion as divine women are already perfect and there is no need to talk anything about them.

This leads to the following. You should instead treat most of the women as the tool to make sure you are satisfied in a way that the needs of a woman that was honoured by your choice are satisfied as well. I know this sounds unpopular, but in reality this is the truth as no one gave any reasonable alternative. Searching for some "perfect woman" is pretty much stupidity nowadays.

So if you want sex, you should get it. And the Gods are supposed to help you in that if you ask Them with respect and clear intentions. Meaning that if They give you some human for such a type of relationship, then you are supposed to take care of that human in the best way possible according to your sex, psyche, gender, etc. The same applies to that human as well. This might sound simple, but this holds lots of difficult challenges in reality. I am not going to talk about them in this post.

The reasonable alternative could be the one that results in a man getting laid with more women. But it seems that my way results in exactly just that as I am talking about. This is not about telling that man should f*ck as many women as possible, but some facts are true. And if we are supposed to fight for the so-called "truth", then this stuff needs to be exclaimed as well.

Some people who disagree with me might try making this personal. But in this case I would ask this. What would the real True Gods think about this? They definitely see my outlook is not full. But the fact they do not stop me from posting this is proof I have some serious information that everyone needs to follow or at least read.

 

[Meow!]

I do have to add a caviate to part of the biological need for sex. If you take a look at the human body itself you will find that both on the male and female bodies they are built for pleasure. If it was only making babies and that alone we would be more like animals in more ways than I care to say. So I suggest you take a look at actual books about sex- such as those that teach about the erogenous zones and how to pleasure both sex before you say things like we are built for making babies and nothing more cause you disrespect our gods- think of the make and females one venerated for giving us the celebration of pleasure and sex- in this blatant brush stroke.


Hail Father Zeus

 

[May Flower]

Personal experience here, and I think Pythia said this, but someone feel free to correct me, sexuality for the sexual, celibacy for the celibate. We are meant to manage our feelings, and maybe at one point we grow out of sexual need, but I have found for myself considerable emotional growth being consistently intimate with my partner. I would think that something like this is very diverse to the person's individual needs for direction and growth.

 

[Henu the Great]

I do have to add a caviate to part of the biological need for sex. If you take a look at the human body itself you will find that both on the male and female bodies they are built for pleasure. If it was only making babies and that alone we would be more like animals in more ways than I care to say. So I suggest you take a look at actual books about sex- such as those that teach about the erogenous zones and how to pleasure both sex before you say things like we are built for making babies and nothing more cause you disrespect our gods- think of the make and females one venerated for giving us the celebration of pleasure and sex- in this blatant brush stroke.


Hail Father Zeus

Personal experience here, and I think Pythia said this, but someone feel free to correct me, sexuality for the sexual, celibacy for the celibate. We are meant to manage our feelings, and maybe at one point we grow out of sexual need, but I have found for myself considerable emotional growth being consistently intimate with my partner. I would think that something like this is very diverse to the person's individual needs for direction and growth.

Nothing wrong with taking pleasure in carnal pleasure. We have pointed out that more evolved people view this differently, AND THERE IS NO INSULT TO GODS whatsoever. On the contrary, it is insulting not to advance to the point where one is fully manifesting what Gods want to manifest. What that is depends wholly on the individual. For most people, it truly is what you describe.

 

[չ∂αяквℓσω]

Personal experience here, and I think Pythia said this, but someone feel free to correct me, sexuality for the sexual, celibacy for the celibate. We are meant to manage our feelings, and maybe at one point we grow out of sexual need, but I have found for myself considerable emotional growth being consistently intimate with my partner. I would think that something like this is very diverse to the person's individual needs for direction and growth.

HPS Pythia*

And anyway, yes, in one of the sermons I heard that we are free to live our sex lives as we want, we are also free not to have sex.

 

[Meow!]

I wasn't trying to deny if anyone WANTED to enjoy themselves or not. ONLY pointing out that when someone wants to bring in BIOLOGY into it and be ignorant of a fact I pointed out a truth. Weather the person uses it is up to them. I don't care. I do care when someone trys to deny that we are made in the image of the gods and so denying the obvious biology is a slap in the face to them. I'm just pointing out biology. Not weather someone needs or wants to use said biology.


Hail Father Zeus

 

[Nikólaos666]

Personal experience here, and I think Pythia said this, but someone feel free to correct me, sexuality for the sexual, celibacy for the celibate. We are meant to manage our feelings, and maybe at one point we grow out of sexual need, but I have found for myself considerable emotional growth being consistently intimate with my partner. I would think that something like this is very diverse to the person's individual needs for direction and growth.

Celibate can also have sexual intercourse with a partner without being in love. It's better to have sex than becoming mentally and physically ill because you don't want a partner.

 

[Kouros Aionios]

Personal experience here, and I think Pythia said this, but someone feel free to correct me, sexuality for the sexual, celibacy for the celibate. We are meant to manage our feelings, and maybe at one point we grow out of sexual need, but I have found for myself considerable emotional growth being consistently intimate with my partner. I would think that something like this is very diverse to the person's individual needs for direction and growth.

I agree with this. Live your sex life how you want as long as you are not harming yourself or others. Keep in touch with yourself to see what you might really want for yourself and your spiritual development.

 

[Henu the Great]

I do not know why celibacy was brought up, because the book and the methods I refer to are not about celibacy, but about wise usage of one's energy reserve, both physical and spiritual. I recommend the book for both men and women, although there is a separate book for women. I have not familiarized myself with that yet, so I can not comment about it.

Here are some links.

The Multi-Orgasmic Man

us.mantakchia.com

https://archive.org/details/multiorgasmicman00chia

 

[WiseDragon]

I wasn't trying to deny if anyone WANTED to enjoy themselves or not. ONLY pointing out that when someone wants to bring in BIOLOGY into it and be ignorant of a fact I pointed out a truth. Weather the person uses it is up to them. I don't care. I do care when someone trys to deny that we are made in the image of the gods and so denying the obvious biology is a slap in the face to them. I'm just pointing out biology. Not weather someone needs or wants to use said biology.


Hail Father Zeus

This Energy isn't neglected at all and it's not denied, it's given a different and higher outlet. No denial or repression go on, if you do it correctly.

Yours is also such a non-argument in general that I don't even know where to start with you.

Whatever...

 

[Draconis]

You could eliminate your need for sex and social interactions, but that wouldn't make you different from a mindless robot. These are what make us humans, what makes us who we are. Before becoming Gods, we must learn to become humans, as Zeus says in "Life Ethics" webpage on templeofzeus.org, and being humans means to feel emotions, even bad ones. Every emotions is there to teach us something, and we must listen to them to learn.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

Previously, I would have completely agreed with you. But now, things have changed as I have witnessed first-hand the alternative. The sexual energy does not need to be used for pleasure; it can be directed to one's health and well-being, eliminating the need for carnal pleasure. It can also be used for other higher purposes, such as meditation and other higher spiritual goals.

This is only possible when one is a very advanced meditator and is able to direct the energies appropriately; it is not suitable for beginner or intermediate meditators.

 

[Henu the Great]

This is only possible when one is a very advanced meditator and is able to direct the energies appropriately; it is not suitable for beginner or intermediate meditators.

Mantak Chia has laid out clear instructions even for the layman to succeed at, given enough practice.

Clearly advancement is not something that can be categorized in one way only, but consists of multiple "departments". I am curious if the subsequent updates will clarify this.

 

[May Flower]

In my humble opinion, your trolling has reached a level where it is not as clandestine as it used to be. Too obvious. You need to quit and make another user account, or leave altogether.

I literally reviewed and attempted simple applications recommended by Mantak Chia, from some youtube videos. The articles you posted were blacked out, probably for some payment, but I found worthwhile content elswhere of his. I am no advanced meditator by any means, but I found the advice Mantak gave to have immediate benefits to my personal sensitivity. Trolls are typically unable to review content in effective application because the lying started in their heart. That's my take. Thank You Henu for a genuine resource.

 

[Henu the Great]

I literally reviewed and attempted simple applications recommended by Mantak Chia, from some youtube videos. The articles you posted were blacked out, probably for some payment, but I found worthwhile content elswhere of his. I am no advanced meditator by any means, but I found the advice Mantak gave to have immediate benefits to my personal sensitivity. Trolls are typically unable to review content in effective application because the lying started in their heart. That's my take. Thank You Henu for a genuine resource.

No problem, I am glad that you found the advice helpful. I am not the first to bring up these resources, by the way. Simply someone attentive and curious. Mantak Chia has many other Eastern-oriented applications for health and well-being, if you are interested.

 

[Lunar666]

I do have to add a caviate to part of the biological need for sex. If you take a look at the human body itself you will find that both on the male and female bodies they are built for pleasure. If it was only making babies and that alone we would be more like animals in more ways than I care to say. So I suggest you take a look at actual books about sex- such as those that teach about the erogenous zones and how to pleasure both sex before you say things like we are built for making babies and nothing more cause you disrespect our gods- think of the make and females one venerated for giving us the celebration of pleasure and sex- in this blatant brush stroke.


Hail Father Zeus

Your comment was very intelligent and insightful. I have many recommendations for books and resources on sex and erogenous zones
‘Yoni Massage: Awakening Female Sexual Energy’ (Michaela Riedl)

‘Mastering The Art Of Vaginal Massage: A Man's Guide To Giving Your Lover Ultimate Pleasure’ (Dr. Leonard McGill)

‘Erotic Chinese Massage: The Sexy Secrets of Taoist Teachers’ (Wang-Puh Wei, Chris Evans)

‘The Book of Massage: The Complete Step-By-Step Guide to Eastern and Western Technique’ (Lucinda Liddell)

Ultimate Erotic Massage: Sensual Techniques for Enhancing Sexual Pleasure (Kavida Rei)

‘Hunk Hands 6 Steps Squirting Course’

‘Conexão orgástica prem samagra( 2019, site Amor e conexão) ’

‘Efeito Fênix – Massagem Tântrica para Todos’

The last two have not been translated into English; they are only available in Brazilian Portuguese. I have taken all the courses and read all these books, so I can say that they are excellent. I have always had a keen interest in tantric massage and other types of massage too.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

Imposed restraint without any understanding is without question harmful, and this is what the main 'religions' preach, but this is not what I'm talking about here. I was listening to a Yogi and he pointed out that the concept of sexual restraint, was actually known to the Ancients for thousands of years, but later Christianity and Islam took it, and removed all the knowledge around it, on how it is to be done properly, the Sadhana to do, the way you handle and not repress the urge, redirecting the energy to the higer energy centers and so on. Your own willingness to do it is extremely important, but these religions impose it on you, and that's terrible.

I urge people to not fall for the simplistic thinking of 'the Church preaches it, therefore it is bad'. Don't be a contrarian just for the sake of it, look furhter, analyze deeper.

For those who will make the argument 'well, sex is a natural human need, just like food, neglegting it would be stupid', I'd like to draw inspiration from one of Vilet's books on the matter. He argues that hunger and lust aren't similar at all, they are actually opposite. Why do we feel the need to eat? Why did nature instill that need in us? To nourish our bodies and stay alive as individuals. Why do we feel sexual urges? To have fun with ourselves? To have fun with women? Was this the actual intent? NO, not at all, the intent was to make babies. To reproduce, nothing else. They are called reproductive organs, not 'pleasure' organs. Even though there is nothing inherently wrong morally in having sex for fun, don't get me wrong. But that isn't why we feel compelled to do it, biologically.

Previously, I would have completely agreed with you. But now, things have changed as I have witnessed first-hand the alternative. The sexual energy does not need to be used for pleasure; it can be directed to one's health and well-being, eliminating the need for carnal pleasure. It can also be used for other higher purposes, such as meditation and other higher spiritual goals.

The health expenditure of sexual activity is real, but this is solved through spiritual gains in vitality and balance.

The main point of HPS Pythia, and what is being confused here, is the purpose of sex. The higher purpose and value is not simply pleasure, but rather it is spiritual development. Sex is Plutonian; it is the fusing of yin and yang. Restrictions imposed by the enemy on this are not just about causing physical backup, but creating spiritual degeneration.

The extreme pleasure state of the orgasm is what drives the manifestation to take place, because this is the sensory proof of the desire being fulfilled. The desire can be connected to anything one wants, such as performance goals, but the pleasure is always there and should be strengthened for a better result. One can use their partner as a bridge for this, such as in roleplay or other fantasy, and as a way to increase their natural arousal, especially for more abstract desires.

As a Zevist, practice your sex magick, not sexual restriction. If you do not like the current results you receive from your sexual activity, explore more and build up the spiritual skill, rather than believe it is capped at that point.

 

[Henu the Great]

The health expenditure of sexual activity is real, but this is solved through spiritual gains in vitality and balance.

The main point of HPS Pythia, and what is being confused here, is the purpose of sex. The higher purpose and value is not simply pleasure, but rather it is spiritual development. Sex is Plutonian; it is the fusing of yin and yang. Restrictions imposed by the enemy on this are not just about causing physical backup, but creating spiritual degeneration.

The extreme pleasure state of the orgasm is what drives the manifestation to take place, because this is the sensory proof of the desire being fulfilled. The desire can be connected to anything one wants, such as performance goals, but the pleasure is always there and should be strengthened for a better result. One can use their partner as a bridge for this, such as in roleplay or other fantasy, and as a way to increase their natural arousal, especially for more abstract desires.

As a Zevist, practice your sex magick, not sexual restriction. If you do not like the current results you receive from your sexual activity, explore more and build up the spiritual skill, rather than believe it is capped at that point.

Quite an assumption on your part. I will leave it at that.

 

[Aquarius]

I think I read that Mantak Chia's wife divorced him for his obsession with not ejaculating.

 

[sinbad]

...

I think it's a lot easier to do (channel this energy) if you have an all-consuming obsession or goal of some sort, or are generally more intellectually obsessive. It is definitely also a personality thing, for example if you are someone who doesn't value or gain much from physical/material/sensory stimulation in general. I've been doing it for a few weeks and can say it has stabilised my brain and emotions completely, whereas I had been mentally erratic for the last year. It focused me like a laser beam.

 

[Lunar666]

You are in the know. I want to add that there is pleasure in taking pleasure in these other things (because from my previous post, it could be understood that there would not be pleasure anymore). A much more sophisticated form of pleasure. A full-body orgasm is much more pleasurable than a "squirt orgasm", for example. And then there is the fact that pleasure can be taken from many other avenues, such as sports, arts, culture, science, metaphysical pursuits, and whatever else there is. A high-energy state is something exciting to witness happening continuously.

Squirt massage is a variation of the yoni massage techniques described in tantric texts. It is a skill that every straight, married man should have.
I read a little of Mantak Chia's book. I liked the part that talks about exercising the pelvic floor muscles. This exercise is the cure for premature ejaculation. I've known this for years; Kegel exercises are great.
Of course, I don't agree with everything the book says. But even so, it's an interesting book.

 

[Henu the Great]

Squirt massage is a variation of the yoni massage techniques described in tantric texts. It is a skill that every straight, married man should have.
I read a little of Mantak Chia's book. I liked the part that talks about exercising the pelvic floor muscles. This exercise is the cure for premature ejaculation. I've known this for years; Kegel exercises are great.
Of course, I don't agree with everything the book says. But even so, it's an interesting book.

We are not talking about the same subject here. Notice the different words. In any case, I congratulate you on your sexual discoveries.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

In my opinion, the topic of blocking ejaculation began to be promoted when Vedic tantra and other similar Eastern practices were infiltrated and corrupted by Jainism, Confucianism, and Buddhism.

 

[CharlesBenetton]

Sex magick, as I see it, is a way to not waste all of the energy that is raised in the act, it's not the optimal way to handle that energy. I often hear people say 'sex magick is extremely powerful, immensely powerful' and so on. Yeah, I know. But guess where that power is coming from? It's coming from your energy reserves, and once they're gone, they're gone forever. What if you retained them and handled them properly in Meditation though, without exerting them?

About your first point, that the expenditure can be solved through health improvement and so on, many Yogis would respond by telling you that sure, you may make some improvements, but you will never be able to gain back all that was lost over a long period of time. The processes to create semen are incredibly complex, they require time and the taxation that releasing it takes on the body can never be recovered in totality with good nutrition and spiritual techniques, over a long period of time.

In my opinion, restricting your energies will harm more than using them. Yes, ejaculating so many times like an addict will drain you, but without using energy and channeling them according to your wish will not help you in any way.
Energies are here for using and without using, and practice, you can't control them. Just simply collecting energies and storing them forever will end up leaking or hurting yourself. Restrictions are often not good. Also, energy can be renewed, so not using it does not make sense to me. And if I recall correctly, sexual energies can be restored in 3 to 9 days fully.
That being said, I practiced mantak chia, and honestly, I couldn't feel a big difference in my life, even though I experienced some pleasurable moments.

 

[Lightningsnake]

Mantak Chia has laid out clear instructions even for the layman to succeed at, given enough practice.

Clearly advancement is not something that can be categorized in one way only, but consists of multiple "departments". I am curious if the subsequent updates will clarify this.

I used to read Mantak Chia's book, The Multi-Orgasmic Man, a lot. But since I didn't have a girlfriend, I had no motivation. So my practice didn't last long. It was only occasional.

But it's a really good book. It's just that after the cold pull-up and the big pull-up, the energy always got stuck. In my back and head, I couldn't release it no matter what I did. But when I got better at Hatha yoga later on, it solved that problem. Hatha yoga helps release energy buildup.

You can develop yourself using these methods on your own, but I must add this for the sake of completeness. Because I have meditated a lot on this topic.

At this level of human existence, neither men nor women are complete. Therefore, their full creative potential can only be realized together. For example, in procreation. But what if this energy were used as money magic, for example? To improve the family's financial situation, or for other spiritual purposes. I think the result would be much better than if only one party did something alone. So I think that as a team, if it is well organized, for example in the form of a man and a woman, they can go further. But if the circumstances are not right, then it is worth continuing alone.