How to completely eliminate the need for sex and social connections?I'm in love forever but my partner is out of reach and we can't communicate.

[thank you every match]

This could go on for thousands of years, but I won't betray him and I don't want anyone else, even my passion for fantasizing about sex has disappeared. How can I ease my suffering?

 

[Henu the Great]

For sexual energy. Look up Mantak Chia, he has the resources to guide you to direct your sexual energy in a way that you desire (inward, circulating).

For the second question, there is no other "solution" than to deny your human nature, which then results in various types of damage over time. You really should accept the fact that you are part of a greater collective, and that you function as a part of it.

 

[kanine6]

Eliminating the need for sex would cause a lot of mental stress for a human, if kept for a long time. Urge to be with someone, to love, to have sex is natural and is a necessity.

 

[Henu the Great]

Eliminating the need for sex would cause a lot of mental stress for a human, if kept for a long time. Urge to be with someone, to love, to have sex is natural and is a necessity.

Previously, I would have completely agreed with you. But now, things have changed as I have witnessed first-hand the alternative. The sexual energy does not need to be used for pleasure; it can be directed to one's health and well-being, eliminating the need for carnal pleasure. It can also be used for other higher purposes, such as meditation and other higher spiritual goals.

 

[logicalmind]

Let me give something as people have some stuff that is useless in most cases.

1. Love. You have no love now. Love in reality is something that people create through the long-term process. Usually, they confuse love with lust. Lust and love are different. Some stuff holds right, some does not. E.g., without lust, there can be no love. Without love, existence of lust is possible. But I am not going to give you advice on how to get lust without love. This is useless, stupid and results in degradation instead of real advancement.

2. Sex. Need for sex is supposed to be satisfied in order for the advancement of the whole collective psyche. Yes, you getting satisfied is advancing the whole of humanity given your morality is decent from birth. Those who say that there is no obligation towards anyone are just retarded stupid pieces of shit. This is proven wrong easily by the fact that we all have to follow the same law. Which means that humanity is socialistic by its nature. Not by the soviet standard, but by the Germanic standard of socialism which needs to be clarified properly.

Which is why civilizations that dare to call themselves advanced have prostitution properly legalized. So men would have sex as much as they want, and would be able to choose the wife they really want to love instead of creating stupid relationships just in order to satisfy their sexual needs. Some of the greatest men chose prostitutes for their wives like Aristotle. Later, this system was penalized. Those who introduced such a system where prostitution to be illegal must be prosecuted and executed as criminals against humanity.

So the most important question still remains. What can be done? This is what. You should understand that women literally do not care about how you look or whatever. They care about how you treat them. About what you stimulate them to care about in the context of you. Unless the woman is really in the level of divinity. But the woman in the level of divinity will be able to lead you in a way you will assume that it is you who is leading the scene, so the divine women are out of the question in the context of this discussion as divine women are already perfect and there is no need to talk anything about them.

This leads to the following. You should instead treat most of the women as the tool to make sure you are satisfied in a way that the needs of a woman that was honoured by your choice are satisfied as well. I know this sounds unpopular, but in reality this is the truth as no one gave any reasonable alternative. Searching for some "perfect woman" is pretty much stupidity nowadays.

So if you want sex, you should get it. And the Gods are supposed to help you in that if you ask Them with respect and clear intentions. Meaning that if They give you some human for such a type of relationship, then you are supposed to take care of that human in the best way possible according to your sex, psyche, gender, etc. The same applies to that human as well. This might sound simple, but this holds lots of difficult challenges in reality. I am not going to talk about them in this post.

The reasonable alternative could be the one that results in a man getting laid with more women. But it seems that my way results in exactly just that as I am talking about. This is not about telling that man should f*ck as many women as possible, but some facts are true. And if we are supposed to fight for the so-called "truth", then this stuff needs to be exclaimed as well.

Some people who disagree with me might try making this personal. But in this case I would ask this. What would the real True Gods think about this? They definitely see my outlook is not full. But the fact they do not stop me from posting this is proof I have some serious information that everyone needs to follow or at least read.

 

[WiseDragon]

Previously, I would have completely agreed with you. But now, things have changed as I have witnessed first-hand the alternative. The sexual energy does not need to be used for pleasure; it can be directed to one's health and well-being, eliminating the need for carnal pleasure. It can also be used for other higher purposes, such as meditation and other higher spiritual goals.

I agree. I know that saying this may lead to some very strong pushback on here, because the accepted belief is that having sex often (or masturbating) is a vital need and if you go without it for 2 weeks you will lose your mind and so on, but I just found this to not be the case at all.

This is a very sensitive topic, I'll just give my opinion, at the end of the day what matters is what the clergy states, I hate to go against the conventional wisdom here, but I have a very different view on sexuality now.

I had convinced myself of having a very strong sex drive, but in actuality, once I applied discipline and rejected lust, my sexual urges dropped dramatically. I'd think about sex all the time, and now I go without even thinking about it for weeks and weeks, no problem. And I feel better than I ever did. Didn't go insane, yet.

I've researched all of this a lot in the last two years, and I've understood that sex, especially for men, comes at a very high price. Scientists of the past agreed that preserving one's semen would only lead to great mental and physical benefits, as it contains tons of nutrients and tons of Vril (the life essence itself). This is something that the Yogis in the East (who are not as foolish as I thought, at all, actually I was the fool all along for dismissing them so quickly and arrogantly) and Ancient Cultures knew very well, that sex drains the soul of energy and life (well, to create a new life, a piece of your own must go, it makes perfect sense, it's just nature at play).

I'll just give you my personal experience. I don't want to brag at all, I'm actually not that type of person at all, but since I've began Meditation, even outside the ToZ back in the day, I understood that I was different in some way. With simple meditations I'd be able to raise an incredible amount of energy within me, I remember also putting my hands one against the other at 30cm distance, and the magnetism was so strong that it felt almost physical, it was so intense it was astounding. But then I read on here that sex and masturbation are completely fine, no drawback whatsoever in any way, so I let myself go more over the years. And all of that energy that I had in the beginning... basically gone, I still had some energy, but nowhere near those levels.

Then I give this crazy 'Semen Retention' practice, that thousands of people I've read the comments of online speak so positively about, a try. I listen to all of these scientists of the '700s and '800s talking about the draining effect sex has on the mind and body for men, I read some books of Yogis and Occultists putting an extreme amount of emphasis on it, and I just try. I kid you not, by week 3 my Vril levels were skyrocketing again. It was a crazy experience. The correlation couldn't be clearer to me.

Pythagoras, Nikola Tesla, Newton, Leonardo Da Vinci, Hitler, Bobby Fischer and so many others...they all had something in common.

Pythagoras in particular, which we all agree was a man of immense intelligence, wisdom and knowledge, a semi-divine if not divine figure, is known for having this practice as an absolute requirement in his School. It appears that he thought it to be of extreme importance for some reason. How could such a supreme genius and advanced Soul, be so foolish in leading his own students on the path of destruction, if sexual restraint is actually so damaging as it is thought?

Many put great emphasis on Western Psychology and Psychiatry, claiming that these fields 'established' that sexual restraint is very damaging and leads to neurosis. A turning point for me, was when I found out that this is not at accepted by all experts at all, and that this theory, that if you ever repress a sexual urge in your life you will lose your goddamn mind, comes from Freud and an array of other jews.

Imposed restraint without any understanding is without question harmful, and this is what the main 'religions' preach, but this is not what I'm talking about here. I was listening to a Yogi and he pointed out that the concept of sexual restraint, was actually known to the Ancients for thousands of years, but later Christianity and Islam took it, and removed all the knowledge around it, on how it is to be done properly, the Sadhana to do, the way you handle and not repress the urge, redirecting the energy to the higer energy centers and so on. Your own willingness to do it is extremely important, but these religions impose it on you, and that's terrible.

I urge people to not fall for the simplistic thinking of 'the Church preaches it, therefore it is bad'. Don't be a contrarian just for the sake of it, look furhter, analyze deeper.

For those who will make the argument 'well, sex is a natural human need, just like food, neglegting it would be stupid', I'd like to draw inspiration from one of Vilet's books on the matter. He argues that hunger and lust aren't similar at all, they are actually opposite. Why do we feel the need to eat? Why did nature instill that need in us? To nourish our bodies and stay alive as individuals. Why do we feel sexual urges? To have fun with ourselves? To have fun with women? Was this the actual intent? NO, not at all, the intent was to make babies. To reproduce, nothing else. They are called reproductive organs, not 'pleasure' organs. Even though there is nothing inherently wrong morally in having sex for fun, don't get me wrong. But that isn't why we feel compelled to do it, biologically.

 

[Henu the Great]

I agree. I know that saying this may lead to some very strong pushback on here, because the accepted belief is that having sex often (or masturbating) is a vital need and if you go without it for 2 weeks you will lose your mind and so on, but I just found this to not be the case at all.

This is a very sensitive topic, I'll just give my opinion, at the end of the day what matters is what the clergy states, I hate to go against the conventional wisdom here, but I have a very different view on sexuality now.

I had convinced myself of having a very strong sex drive, but in actuality, once I applied discipline and rejected lust, my sexual urges dropped dramatically. I'd think about sex all the time, and now I go without even thinking about it for weeks and weeks, no problem. And I feel better than I ever did. Didn't go insane, yet.

I've researched all of this a lot in the last two years, and I've understood that sex, especially for men, comes at a very high price. Scientists of the past agreed that preserving one's semen would only lead to great mental and physical benefits, as it contains tons of nutrients and tons of Vril (the life essence itself). This is something that the Yogis in the East (who are not as foolish as I thought, at all, actually I was the fool all along for dismissing them so quickly and arrogantly) and Ancient Cultures knew very well, that sex drains the soul of energy and life (well, to create a new life, a piece of your own must go, it makes perfect sense, it's just nature at play).

I'll just give you my personal experience. I don't want to brag at all, I'm actually not that type of person at all, but since I've began Meditation, even outside the ToZ back in the day, I understood that I was different in some way. With simple meditations I'd be able to raise an incredible amount of energy within me, I remember also putting my hands one against the other at 30cm distance, and the magnetism was so strong that it felt almost physical, it was so intense it was astounding. But then I read on here that sex and masturbation are completely fine, no drawback whatsoever in any way, so I let myself go more over the years. And all of that energy that I had in the beginning... basically gone, I still had some energy, but nowhere near those levels.

Then I give this crazy 'Semen Retention' practice, that thousands of people I've read the comments of online speak so positively about, a try. I listen to all of these scientists of the '700s and '800s talking about the draining effect sex has on the mind and body for men, I read some books of Yogis and Occultists putting an extreme amount of emphasis on it, and I just try. I kid you not, by week 3 my Vril levels were skyrocketing again. It was a crazy experience. The correlation couldn't be clearer to me.

Pythagoras, Nikola Tesla, Newton, Leonardo Da Vinci, Hitler, Bobby Fischer and so many others...they all had something in common.

Pythagoras in particular, which we all agree was a man of immense intelligence, wisdom and knowledge, a semi-divine if not divine figure, is known for having this practice as an absolute requirement in his School. It appears that he thought it to be of extreme importance for some reason. How could such a supreme genius and advanced Soul, be so foolish in leading his own students on the path of destruction, if sexual restraint is actually so damaging as it is thought?

Many put great emphasis on Western Psychology and Psychiatry, claiming that these fields 'established' that sexual restraint is very damaging and leads to neurosis. A turning point for me, was when I found out that this is not at accepted by all experts at all, and that this theory, that if you ever repress a sexual urge in your life you will lose your goddamn mind, comes from Freud and an array of other jews.

Imposed restraint without any understanding is without question harmful, and this is what the main 'religions' preach, but this is not what I'm talking about here. I was listening to a Yogi and he pointed out that the concept of sexual restraint, was actually known to the Ancients for thousands of years, but later Christianity and Islam took it, and removed all the knowledge around it, on how it is to be done properly, the Sadhana to do, the way you handle and not repress the urge, redirecting the energy to the higer energy centers and so on. Your own willingness to do it is extremely important, but these religions impose it on you, and that's terrible.

I urge people to not fall for the simplistic thinking of 'the Church preaches it, therefore it is bad'. Don't be a contrarian just for the sake of it, look furhter, analyze deeper.

For those who will make the argument 'well, sex is a natural human need, just like food, neglegting it would be stupid', I'd like to draw inspiration from one of Vilet's books on the matter. He argues that hunger and lust aren't similar at all, they are actually opposite. Why do we feel the need to eat? Why did nature instill that need in us? To nourish our bodies and stay alive as individuals. Why do we feel sexual urges? To have fun with ourselves? To have fun with women? Was this the actual intent? NO, not at all, the intent was to make babies. To reproduce, nothing else. They are called reproductive organs, not 'pleasure' organs. Even though there is nothing inherently wrong morally in having sex for fun, don't get me wrong. But that isn't why we feel compelled to do it, biologically.

You are in the know. I want to add that there is pleasure in taking pleasure in these other things (because from my previous post, it could be understood that there would not be pleasure anymore). A much more sophisticated form of pleasure. A full-body orgasm is much more pleasurable than a "squirt orgasm", for example. And then there is the fact that pleasure can be taken from many other avenues, such as sports, arts, culture, science, metaphysical pursuits, and whatever else there is. A high-energy state is something exciting to witness happening continuously.

 

[Meow!]

I do have to add a caviate to part of the biological need for sex. If you take a look at the human body itself you will find that both on the male and female bodies they are built for pleasure. If it was only making babies and that alone we would be more like animals in more ways than I care to say. So I suggest you take a look at actual books about sex- such as those that teach about the erogenous zones and how to pleasure both sex before you say things like we are built for making babies and nothing more cause you disrespect our gods- think of the make and females one venerated for giving us the celebration of pleasure and sex- in this blatant brush stroke.


Hail Father Zeus

 

[May Flower]

Personal experience here, and I think Maxine said this, but someone feel free to correct me, sexuality for the sexual, celibacy for the celibate. We are meant to manage our feelings, and maybe at one point we grow out of sexual need, but I have found for myself considerable emotional growth being consistently intimate with my partner. I would think that something like this is very diverse to the person's individual needs for direction and growth.

 

[Henu the Great]

I do have to add a caviate to part of the biological need for sex. If you take a look at the human body itself you will find that both on the male and female bodies they are built for pleasure. If it was only making babies and that alone we would be more like animals in more ways than I care to say. So I suggest you take a look at actual books about sex- such as those that teach about the erogenous zones and how to pleasure both sex before you say things like we are built for making babies and nothing more cause you disrespect our gods- think of the make and females one venerated for giving us the celebration of pleasure and sex- in this blatant brush stroke.


Hail Father Zeus

Personal experience here, and I think Maxine said this, but someone feel free to correct me, sexuality for the sexual, celibacy for the celibate. We are meant to manage our feelings, and maybe at one point we grow out of sexual need, but I have found for myself considerable emotional growth being consistently intimate with my partner. I would think that something like this is very diverse to the person's individual needs for direction and growth.

Nothing wrong with taking pleasure in carnal pleasure. We have pointed out that more evolved people view this differently, AND THERE IS NO INSULT TO GODS whatsoever. On the contrary, it is insulting not to advance to the point where one is fully manifesting what Gods want to manifest. What that is depends wholly on the individual. For most people, it truly is what you describe.

 

[չ∂αяквℓσω]

Personal experience here, and I think Maxine said this, but someone feel free to correct me, sexuality for the sexual, celibacy for the celibate. We are meant to manage our feelings, and maybe at one point we grow out of sexual need, but I have found for myself considerable emotional growth being consistently intimate with my partner. I would think that something like this is very diverse to the person's individual needs for direction and growth.

HPS Maxine*

And anyway, yes, in one of the sermons I heard that we are free to live our sex lives as we want, we are also free not to have sex.

 

[Meow!]

I wasn't trying to deny if anyone WANTED to enjoy themselves or not. ONLY pointing out that when someone wants to bring in BIOLOGY into it and be ignorant of a fact I pointed out a truth. Weather the person uses it is up to them. I don't care. I do care when someone trys to deny that we are made in the image of the gods and so denying the obvious biology is a slap in the face to them. I'm just pointing out biology. Not weather someone needs or wants to use said biology.


Hail Father Zeus

 

[MasterJ192216]

Personal experience here, and I think Maxine said this, but someone feel free to correct me, sexuality for the sexual, celibacy for the celibate. We are meant to manage our feelings, and maybe at one point we grow out of sexual need, but I have found for myself considerable emotional growth being consistently intimate with my partner. I would think that something like this is very diverse to the person's individual needs for direction and growth.

Celibate can also have sexual intercourse with a partner without being in love. It's better to have sex than becoming mentally and physically ill because you don't want a partner.

 

[SrivatsaKouros]

Personal experience here, and I think Maxine said this, but someone feel free to correct me, sexuality for the sexual, celibacy for the celibate. We are meant to manage our feelings, and maybe at one point we grow out of sexual need, but I have found for myself considerable emotional growth being consistently intimate with my partner. I would think that something like this is very diverse to the person's individual needs for direction and growth.

I agree with this. Live your sex life how you want as long as you are not harming yourself or others. Keep in touch with yourself to see what you might really want for yourself and your spiritual development.

 

[Henu the Great]

I do not know why celibacy was brought up, because the book and the methods I refer to are not about celibacy, but about wise usage of one's energy reserve, both physical and spiritual. I recommend the book for both men and women, although there is a separate book for women. I have not familiarized myself with that yet, so I can not comment about it.

Here are some links.

The Multi-Orgasmic Man

us.mantakchia.com

https://archive.org/details/multiorgasmicman00chia

 

[WiseDragon]

I wasn't trying to deny if anyone WANTED to enjoy themselves or not. ONLY pointing out that when someone wants to bring in BIOLOGY into it and be ignorant of a fact I pointed out a truth. Weather the person uses it is up to them. I don't care. I do care when someone trys to deny that we are made in the image of the gods and so denying the obvious biology is a slap in the face to them. I'm just pointing out biology. Not weather someone needs or wants to use said biology.


Hail Father Zeus

This Energy isn't neglected at all and it's not denied, it's given a different and higher outlet. No denial or repression go on, if you do it correctly.

Yours is also such a non-argument in general that I don't even know where to start with you.

Whatever...