How can Satan win a war if he doesn't even appear to those who devote themselves to him?

[Imhotep]

Yes, I willingly and gladly did my dedication ritual to Satan. And yes, I am increasingly disappointed and frustrated that I can't get in touch with him. After all, if he is real, why doesn't he speak to me. I have meditated on his sigil. But he neither appears to me nor do I hear him speak to me. So I have to believe in him like I believe in the God of the Christians or the Jews etc.

But I no longer want to believe. Faith is for idiots. I want certainty and direct experience. Old women in church can believe.

How can Satan win a war if he doesn't even appear to those who devote themselves to him and guide them audibly and visibly. I am really grateful for every answer.

 

[Henu the Great]

So you need to develop your astral senses which can take many years to get a good amount of solid progress done.

Your shortcomings are not on Satan...

 

[SatAnon]

Yes, I willingly and gladly did my dedication ritual to Satan. And yes, I am increasingly disappointed and frustrated that I can't get in touch with him. After all, if he is real, why doesn't he speak to me. I have meditated on his sigil. But he neither appears to me nor do I hear him speak to me. So I have to believe in him like I believe in the God of the Christians or the Jews etc.

But I no longer want to believe. Faith is for idiots. I want certainty and direct experience. Old women in church can believe.

How can Satan win a war if he doesn't even appear to those who devote themselves to him and guide them audibly and visibly. I am really grateful for every answer.

As its been said, Satan doesn't appear physically because he's not a physical being. He can only astral travel, as he's a physical extraterrestrial being living somewhere in Orion, and to see and hear him astrally and telepathically you need to open your astral senses. Meditating on his sigil doesn't cause your astral senses to instantly open, obviously. As many people have said, if you are not astrally open yet, most of the communication comes via signs and meaningful coincidences, like other people telling you something or reading something in a website that it happens to be the answer to a question you asked Satan.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

You can't blame somebody for not calling you on the phone, if that person did try to call you but you didn't answer because the ringer was on silent.

Your inability to receive a message does not mean that the message was not sent. Just as one person being blind does not mean that colors don't exist in the world, or one person being deaf does not mean that sound does not exist. Whatever senses that you have not yet developed does not mean that these areas don't exist.

Work on opening all of your chakras. Work specifically on your minor chakras for clairaudience and clairvoyance. And use the Logr and Dagaz runes into your 3rd eye, with an affirmation programming the energy to improve and strengthen your psychic senses and your intuition.

 

[AFODO]

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[Ĥl·lĥæ]

Satan appears to those who have easily observable potential and greatness, no matter how much power you have, if your mind is not aligned with his objectives you will never see him and talk to him.


He can communicate, he just doesn't want to with you.
It takes effort to reach "God".

 

[Imhotep]

So you need to develop your astral senses which can take many years to get a good amount of solid progress done.

Your shortcomings are not on Satan...

Thank you, Henu the Great, for your answer. Yes, I understand that.
Strangely enough, some lines from Goethe's Faust came to mind when I read your lines.

"Only now do I realize what the wise man is saying:
'The spirit world is not closed;
Your mind is closed, your heart is dead!
On, bathe, pupil, undaunted
The earthly breast in the dawn!"

Thank you once again for your honest words.

 

[Imhotep]

As its been said, Satan doesn't appear physically because he's not a physical being. He can only astral travel, as he's a physical extraterrestrial being living somewhere in Orion, and to see and hear him astrally and telepathically you need to open your astral senses. Meditating on his sigil doesn't cause your astral senses to instantly open, obviously. As many people have said, if you are not astrally open yet, most of the communication comes via signs and meaningful coincidences, like other people telling you something or reading something in a website that it happens to be the answer to a question you asked Satan.

I am very grateful for your answer, SatAnon. It now makes sense to me that I need to open my astral senses first. I will definitely work on that. I have already incorporated the power meditations into my everyday life. I will also pay close attention to signs.

 

[Imhotep]

You can't blame somebody for not calling you on the phone, if that person did try to call you but you didn't answer because the ringer was on silent.

Your inability to receive a message does not mean that the message was not sent. Just as one person being blind does not mean that colors don't exist in the world, or one person being deaf does not mean that sound does not exist. Whatever senses that you have not yet developed does not mean that these areas don't exist.

Work on opening all of your chakras. Work specifically on your minor chakras for clairaudience and clairvoyance. And use the Logr and Dagaz runes into your 3rd eye, with an affirmation programming the energy to improve and strengthen your psychic senses and your intuition.

Thank you very much for your answer. SatAnon and Henu the Great have already given me a good answer. Your answer is another great help. I am still relatively new to this and will now focus more on chakra work after the power meditations. I am also grateful for the reference to working with the runes you mentioned. I am pleased that I receive valuable help from so many spiritual Satanists. Since I have dedicated my life to Satan, I can see how it is constantly changing. I am infinitely grateful to be a member of JoS.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Thank you very much for your answer. SatAnon and Henu the Great have already given me a good answer. Your answer is another great help. I am still relatively new to this and will now focus more on chakra work after the power meditations. I am also grateful for the reference to working with the runes you mentioned. I am pleased that I receive valuable help from so many spiritual Satanists. Since I have dedicated my life to Satan, I can see how it is constantly changing. I am infinitely grateful to be a member of JoS.

We all are here to help you. And the Gods are infinitely larger than us, so imagine how much force they have for wanting to help us.

 

[pagan-stitches]

Exactly what I keep thinking along with my friend. Why are there so many sightings of UFOS, reports of people being abducted by aliens, reptilians etc. People seeing angels and so on but we can’t see our Gods? This is truly hard to believe. Let alone the colours of the website for example. Yes, this is another topic but we say our religion is nothing about darkness or that we twisted the meaning of darkness, but we have had the meaning for these colors through history, black is darkness and red is blood. The Pentagram on the website looks very modern satanistic to me, why don’t we have something ancient? The Gods can’t show you ancient examples High Priests? So many of us are here trying to understand what the hell is happening or will happen in the world, worrying, overthinking and you ask us to put our faith in the Gods no matter. I do not wish to sound ignorant but that does sound a bit christian. They say the same thing, trust in the lord. I do not like this at all. I have asked my GD for sightings, tried talking to Satan. Where are the messages? Signals? I ask can you move at least something in my room to know you truly hear me? Nothing. @Akay said Satan/Gods appear to those who have true potential. Shouldn’t we all have that? We did the damn dedication ritual, i feel like that says a lot from our side. I don’t know what else to say. This world is so fucking messed up, we see no gods, yet reptilians have free pass here, so much propaganda and misconfusion. I was talking to one of my friends who is also a SS, we came to the conclusion that we connect more with nature then with gods.

 

[Enastri]

Yes, I willingly and gladly did my dedication ritual to Satan. And yes, I am increasingly disappointed and frustrated that I can't get in touch with him. After all, if he is real, why doesn't he speak to me. I have meditated on his sigil. But he neither appears to me nor do I hear him speak to me. So I have to believe in him like I believe in the God of the Christians or the Jews etc.

But I no longer want to believe. Faith is for idiots. I want certainty and direct experience. Old women in church can believe.

How can Satan win a war if he doesn't even appear to those who devote themselves to him and guide them audibly and visibly. I am really grateful for every answer.

I will agree with our brothers. You need to work with yourself through meditations and have patience. Also be observant of the signs.

 

[Baalzebub666]

Yes, I willingly and gladly did my dedication ritual to Satan. And yes, I am increasingly disappointed and frustrated that I can't get in touch with him. After all, if he is real, why doesn't he speak to me. I have meditated on his sigil. But he neither appears to me nor do I hear him speak to me. So I have to believe in him like I believe in the God of the Christians or the Jews etc.

But I no longer want to believe. Faith is for idiots. I want certainty and direct experience. Old women in church can believe.

How can Satan win a war if he doesn't even appear to those who devote themselves to him and guide them audibly and visibly. I am really grateful for every an

Yes, I willingly and gladly did my dedication ritual to Satan. And yes, I am increasingly disappointed and frustrated that I can't get in touch with him. After all, if he is real, why doesn't he speak to me. I have meditated on his sigil. But he neither appears to me nor do I hear him speak to me. So I have to believe in him like I believe in the God of the Christians or the Jews etc.

But I no longer want to believe. Faith is for idiots. I want certainty and direct experience. Old women in church can believe.

How can Satan win a war if he doesn't even appear to those who devote themselves to him and guide them audibly and visibly. I am really grateful for every answer.

Has the christian God ever appeared to you? Or spoke to you? No. The entity we Call "Satan" is highly exalted above the heaven's, words cannot explain how this being is elevated above all powers in heaven and hell, he is placed where none hath. All the demons rejoice at the mention of his Name. At the mention of his Name the greys tremble. Satan is God! The one and only God. He doesn't come or speak as you think. Though he appear in divers manners to those who seek him. Dedication to the path of the serpent doesn't mean that the serpent will appear or speak to you. Yes if really you choose Satan, Satan will choose you, and if you seek him he will find you. Seek him, pray to him, meditate. Do everything possible to attract him, let him be in your thoughts, send energies to the Almighty one. Satan himself is a burning flame. Nothing nears where he is placed. Omnipotent, Omniscient, the most high, the most strong, and the most perfect. A mighty Force of Ultimate perfection. He who has overcome.

HAIL Satan!!!

 

[SatAnon]

Exactly what I keep thinking along with my friend. Why are there so many sightings of UFOS, reports of people being abducted by aliens, reptilians etc. People seeing angels and so on but we can’t see our Gods? This is truly hard to believe.

You realize that only a very small percentage of the world population gets abducted by aliens and see angels and not the average person, right? The same thing with people who do see the Gods, they are very few because they are astrally open. Have you see an angel or been abducted by an alien? If not, then what's the point of comparing these, since you haven't experienced either?

Let alone the colours of the website for example. Yes, this is another topic but we say our religion is nothing about darkness or that we twisted the meaning of darkness, but we have had the meaning for these colors through history, black is darkness and red is blood.

Have you read the JoS site? It says the colors black and red were used in Ancient Egypt and in Alchemy and had positive meaning. They have nothing to do with "darkness". Just because the xians lie about them doesn't mean we shouldn't use them. The only reason to think they are somehow "bad" is only because you have had Christian brainwashing, as in China for example (or so I have heard) black is a positive color and they wear it when they are happy, whereas they wear white in funerals because it's the color of bones.

The Pentagram on the website looks very modern satanistic to me, why don’t we have something ancient?

Again, have you read the JoS site, because the Baphomet (if you mean that by "pentagram") came from Egypt. Even the plain point down pentagram was first found in Sumeria thousands of years ago.

You need to do more study, because your understanding of things is superficial, just like the normies who have never read the JoS site.

So many of us are here trying to understand what the hell is happening or will happen in the world, worrying, overthinking and you ask us to put our faith in the Gods no matter. I do not wish to sound ignorant but that does sound a bit christian. They say the same thing, trust in the lord. I do not like this at all.

No one ever said that here. Any person who may have said was probably meaning to trust Them, for those who are aware that they are real.

I have asked my GD for sightings, tried talking to Satan. Where are the messages? Signals? I ask can you move at least something in my room to know you truly hear me? Nothing.

You have to pay attention for signs, because they are easy to miss. I explained above what they usually are. And no, they don't move things or do other silly tricks just to prove they are real.

Nothing. @Akay said Satan/Gods appear to those who have true potential. Shouldn’t we all have that?

No. Again I don't know what he meant, but as I said, you need to open your astral senses. No one said that it is easy or you will get contacted instantly after you become a Satanist, because that's not how it works. You need to develop yourself.

This world is so fucking messed up, we see no gods, yet reptilians have free pass here, so much propaganda and misconfusion. I was talking to one of my friends who is also a SS, we came to the conclusion that we connect more with nature then with gods.

Again, nobody said that it is easy. You have to practice and pay attention.

 

[pagan-stitches]

Has the christian God ever appeared to you? Or spoke to you? No. The entity we Call "Satan" is highly exalted above the heaven's, words cannot explain how this being is elevated above all powers in heaven and hell, he is placed where none hath. All the demons rejoice at the mention of his Name. At the mention of his Name the greys tremble. Satan is God! The one and only God. He doesn't come or speak as you think. Though he appear in divers manners to those who seek him. Dedication to the path of the serpent doesn't mean that the serpent will appear or speak to you. Yes if really you choose Satan, Satan will choose you, and if you seek him he will find you. Seek him, pray to him, meditate. Do everything possible to attract him, let him be in your thoughts, send energies to the Almighty one. Satan himself is a burning flame. Nothing nears where he is placed. Omnipotent, Omniscient, the most high, the most strong, and the most perfect. A mighty Force of Ultimate perfection. He who has overcome.

HAIL Satan!!!

I am sorry but that is NO answer to what he/she said. You come with no answer and start praising Satan just like a christian as if that would explain things this person wants. Just like a christian who is being told that god doesn’t exist they start saying god is all mighty, rules the world etc. You have to come with facts here. I have nothing against Gods or Satan but if you want to explain things to people who doubt this or are interested to join then i am here to tell that it is NOT the correct way. You say Satan is elevated above all powers of heaven and hell. Hello? This entire religion here and the websites say pretty clear that heaven nor hell exist. The only place that should be considerated “heaven” is Orion, where we apparently go after we die, so I have read. “All the demons…” Demons? Shouldn’t we use this word? Shouldn’t we call them GODS like people used to in ancient times?

 

[Imhotep]

Has the christian God ever appeared to you? Or spoke to you? No. The entity we Call "Satan" is highly exalted above the heaven's, words cannot explain how this being is elevated above all powers in heaven and hell, he is placed where none hath. All the demons rejoice at the mention of his Name. At the mention of his Name the greys tremble. Satan is God! The one and only God. He doesn't come or speak as you think. Though he appear in divers manners to those who seek him. Dedication to the path of the serpent doesn't mean that the serpent will appear or speak to you. Yes if really you choose Satan, Satan will choose you, and if you seek him he will find you. Seek him, pray to him, meditate. Do everything possible to attract him, let him be in your thoughts, send energies to the Almighty one. Satan himself is a burning flame. Nothing nears where he is placed. Omnipotent, Omniscient, the most high, the most strong, and the most perfect. A mighty Force of Ultimate perfection. He who has overcome.

HAIL Satan!!!

Thank you for these wonderful words. Yes, I encountered him in many different forms in my childhood and youth. I just didn't want to admit it. But deep in my heart I always knew about him. Since I have devoted myself to him, I can feel how everything inside and around me is changing. And yes, when I wake up, he is in my thoughts and in my feelings. And when I go to bed, my thoughts and feelings are with him again. Strange figures appear in my dreams, but I can't really place them yet. I now fill my apartment with wonderful sigils. When I look at them, they give me strength. Satan's sigil in particular.
If I have asked this question, it is only because I have such a deep longing to be near him.

Hail Satan!
Hail Luzifer!

Hail Abraxas!

 

[ANPUMESSES999]

I have asked my GD for sightings, tried talking to Satan. Where are the messages? Signals? I ask can you move at least something in my room to know you truly hear me? Nothing

lately the amount of Signs i have experienced has Been Amazing...lights flickering, toilet noises,Various kinds of Synchronicities and Numerology related Sightings (333/555/666/777) etc...

1 week ago i have even asked on purpose the Gods in General, to show me a sign , just for fun, in my room...a few minutes after that, the Clock in my room, stopped working...it restarted working on it's own, the day after such event happend <

my capabilities in regards to "seeing" are limited at the moment(mostly some visions here and there,related to an astral temple near Sirius,), but i can tell you, i can feel Their Godly Influence and the Tests they Subject me to,see their Signs and the Telepathy i have got with ANPU Seems to be Pretty strong aswell...

all in all, i would say it's all very Real ☥

And this is just the Beginning...

 

[Persephone]

Yes, I willingly and gladly did my dedication ritual to Satan. And yes, I am increasingly disappointed and frustrated that I can't get in touch with him. After all, if he is real, why doesn't he speak to me. I have meditated on his sigil. But he neither appears to me nor do I hear him speak to me. So I have to believe in him like I believe in the God of the Christians or the Jews etc.

But I no longer want to believe. Faith is for idiots. I want certainty and direct experience. Old women in church can believe.

How can Satan win a war if he doesn't even appear to those who devote themselves to him and guide them audibly and visibly. I am really grateful for every answer.

There is one thing to really consider. Dedication is a choice you make to reject the enemy's indoctrination, but above all it is a path of personal growth. In two years of constant meditation, getting up even at 4/5/6 in the morning and then going to work for 9 hours, I am only now receiving clear signs! But it's not a race. Above all, contact with the Gods occurs when your soul begins to purify and cleanse itself from previous "dirt" such as traumas, limits and self-destructive thoughts.

The Gods are there, and will always be there. At the beginning they will be more present helping you with situations that are close to your heart but you have to earn the rest. The time will come when you will be able to better perceive their presence and that of Father Satan.

One must also consider how old one's soul is and where you are starting over with your spiritual openness.

I am receiving signs from my Guardian now that I feel are obvious signs, before this I was never sure.

The only certainty I had is their continuous and constant presence for protection and help. Like a parent who will always have your back, he will always support you but will also let you make mistakes.

Don't be in a hurry for a contact, work on yourself, follow a daily meditation and yoga routine and you will see that when you least realize it you will notice your progress

 

[Member]

Exactly what I keep thinking along with my friend. Why are there so many sightings of UFOS, reports of people being abducted by aliens, reptilians etc. People seeing angels and so on but we can’t see our Gods? This is truly hard to believe. Let alone the colours of the website for example. Yes, this is another topic but we say our religion is nothing about darkness or that we twisted the meaning of darkness, but we have had the meaning for these colors through history, black is darkness and red is blood. The Pentagram on the website looks very modern satanistic to me, why don’t we have something ancient? The Gods can’t show you ancient examples High Priests? So many of us are here trying to understand what the hell is happening or will happen in the world, worrying, overthinking and you ask us to put our faith in the Gods no matter. I do not wish to sound ignorant but that does sound a bit christian. They say the same thing, trust in the lord. I do not like this at all. I have asked my GD for sightings, tried talking to Satan. Where are the messages? Signals? I ask can you move at least something in my room to know you truly hear me? Nothing. @Akay said Satan/Gods appear to those who have true potential. Shouldn’t we all have that? We did the damn dedication ritual, i feel like that says a lot from our side. I don’t know what else to say. This world is so fucking messed up, we see no gods, yet reptilians have free pass here, so much propaganda and misconfusion. I was talking to one of my friends who is also a SS, we came to the conclusion that we connect more with nature then with gods.

Hello,,
I don't want this to feel like a fellow 'Christian'(as you see it ) giving you a testimony to keep your Faith up merely because my Cow made a cup more milk today than yesterday or my neighbor's died mine didn't,so please bear with me and hope you can atleast get something useful from this,
I have been dedicated for quite some years now,
Meditation routine has been an on and off thing ,but for the last eight months it has been quite consistent and I can atleast get to see I see something different,
Satan has the ability of meeting anyone, anywhere anytime but you withstanding that presence is quite a gamble,
After my dedication, my life really took a very strange trajectory,one that was really enough of a reason for someone who's scares easily to think they made the single most terrible decision of their life,
I wasn't meditating,kept giving myself 'Justifiable' excuses like I need to find my own apartment first,I need to have a stable job for this to be consistent and things just really stagnated,
So by the time it really dawned on me to meditate(am not suggesting you don't, please bear with me) it was really to find myself at this point, and I did,and strangely enough a 'Satan' incident happened,and looking back I treat that as how most satanist would treat the planet Saturn,it exists there as a challenge for you to embrace change and self-improvement, stronger foundation begets stronger temples,
I used to think meeting Satan will automatically make everything 200% better but really didn't,I met a consciousness (lack of better words) that somehow suggestively or subconsciously registered to me as Satan on the astral,and the energy he/it had felt Shiva in some way,I was also introduced to my GD who didn't seem anything Nordic or any race that's on the website,the GD had something 'Grey' in her,
I strangely remember none of the conversation that happened during that meeting or even the GD name,and it quite literally threw me in a delusional state afterwards,I was increasingly paranoid of it being the enemy sort of abduction but am glad I still got the organs in my immediate vision ,
No meeting ever followed and no voice told me not to be afraid or not to overthink about that event so It bothered for me a while,
really made me question a lot about the idea of it being just my imagination(it was so fucking detailed,the GD even had some type of thoughtforms around her that looked like those buddha statues with multiple arms and they would react to me if I tried to touch them, honestly even if it was the enemy,this was pretty cool to experience,)
But the idea of the memory of it feels like it's on mute still stresses me out,
That was my experience with a non Human intelligence whether Satan's or not,
And it opened me up tomorrow alot of things I had to do,
I realized how naked, vulnerable, childish and powerless we can be when in faced with real divine power whether subjectively evil or good.
We can be naive to just believe anything that's seems mind-blowing or out of our sense of understanding .
Maybe someday I will remember what really transpired but for now I really have to work on the invulnerability points I had,
It's no longer felt a case of what Satan had to offer to me,but exactly what I had to really offer,like it just felt like the firsts steps in JOS are really some grading or test system and Satan will definitely act in accordance to what's the best and productive approach,
If a meeting happens it will subconsciously affect you more than you will perceive physically,,
But this just me running theories as to what tf happened since I got no idea,,,,
And I really hope you get to experience something similar with Satan to when it's the right moment for you too
I know I didn't give you answers you need, but thought it was best to share my personal experience,

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Exactly what I keep thinking along with my friend. Why are there so many sightings of UFOS, reports of people being abducted by aliens, reptilians etc. People seeing angels and so on but we can’t see our Gods? This is truly hard to believe. Let alone the colours of the website for example. Yes, this is another topic but we say our religion is nothing about darkness or that we twisted the meaning of darkness, but we have had the meaning for these colors through history, black is darkness and red is blood. The Pentagram on the website looks very modern satanistic to me, why don’t we have something ancient? The Gods can’t show you ancient examples High Priests? So many of us are here trying to understand what the hell is happening or will happen in the world, worrying, overthinking and you ask us to put our faith in the Gods no matter. I do not wish to sound ignorant but that does sound a bit christian. They say the same thing, trust in the lord. I do not like this at all. I have asked my GD for sightings, tried talking to Satan. Where are the messages? Signals? I ask can you move at least something in my room to know you truly hear me? Nothing. @Akay said Satan/Gods appear to those who have true potential. Shouldn’t we all have that? We did the damn dedication ritual, i feel like that says a lot from our side. I don’t know what else to say. This world is so fucking messed up, we see no gods, yet reptilians have free pass here, so much propaganda and misconfusion. I was talking to one of my friends who is also a SS, we came to the conclusion that we connect more with nature then with gods.

Communication with the Gods is not just about whether one has potential or not, but whether you can actually have receive them. Like all things, we are the limit here. If your astral sight and hearing is closed, what exactly are you supposed to hear or see? Further, if you have convinced yourself that no message can ever appear, or that nature has some sort of value that the Gods do not, then this only continues to weaken your situation.

For new people, likely signs include seeing numbers, or seeing key words appear multiple times. Maybe you hear a thought in your head that seems outside your chain of thought and appears to answer your question.

In addition, you have to do more, not less. Therefore, do the ritual of the God(s) you wish to connect with. Whilst meditating on their sigil, draw in their energy into your soul, especially the upper chakras. Do this many times to establish familiarity and an energy connection. This will increase your sensitivity towards them, such that even if your astral hearing is not open, you may still "feel" that they are thinking of you, or trying to communicate.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Hello,,
I don't want this to feel like a fellow 'Christian'(as you see it ) giving you a testimony to keep your Faith up merely because my Cow made a cup more milk today than yesterday or my neighbor's died mine didn't,so please bear with me and hope you can atleast get something useful from this,
I have been dedicated for quite some years now,
Meditation routine has been an on and off thing ,but for the last eight months it has been quite consistent and I can atleast get to see I see something different,
Satan has the ability of meeting anyone, anywhere anytime but you withstanding that presence is quite a gamble,
After my dedication, my life really took a very strange trajectory,one that was really enough of a reason for someone who's scares easily to think they made the single most terrible decision of their life,
I wasn't meditating,kept giving myself 'Justifiable' excuses like I need to find my own apartment first,I need to have a stable job for this to be consistent and things just really stagnated,
So by the time it really dawned on me to meditate(am not suggesting you don't, please bear with me) it was really to find myself at this point, and I did,and strangely enough a 'Satan' incident happened,and looking back I treat that as how most satanist would treat the planet Saturn,it exists there as a challenge for you to embrace change and self-improvement, stronger foundation begets stronger temples,
I used to think meeting Satan will automatically make everything 200% better but really didn't,I met a consciousness (lack of better words) that somehow suggestively or subconsciously registered to me as Satan on the astral,and the energy he/it had felt Shiva in some way,I was also introduced to my GD who didn't seem anything Nordic or any race that's on the website,the GD had something 'Grey' in her,
I strangely remember none of the conversation that happened during that meeting or even the GD name,and it quite literally threw me in a delusional state afterwards,I was increasingly paranoid of it being the enemy sort of abduction but am glad I still got the organs in my immediate vision ,
No meeting ever followed and no voice told me not to be afraid or not to overthink about that event so It bothered for me a while,
really made me question a lot about the idea of it being just my imagination(it was so fucking detailed,the GD even had some type of thoughtforms around her that looked like those buddha statues with multiple arms and they would react to me if I tried to touch them, honestly even if it was the enemy,this was pretty cool to experience,)
But the idea of the memory of it feels like it's on mute still stresses me out,
That was my experience with a non Human intelligence whether Satan's or not,
And it opened me up tomorrow alot of things I had to do,
I realized how naked, vulnerable, childish and powerless we can be when in faced with real divine power whether subjectively evil or good.
We can be naive to just believe anything that's seems mind-blowing or out of our sense of understanding .
Maybe someday I will remember what really transpired but for now I really have to work on the invulnerability points I had,
It's no longer felt a case of what Satan had to offer to me,but exactly what I had to really offer,like it just felt like the firsts steps in JOS are really some grading or test system and Satan will definitely act in accordance to what's the best and productive approach,
If a meeting happens it will subconsciously affect you more than you will perceive physically,,
But this just me running theories as to what tf happened since I got no idea,,,,
And I really hope you get to experience something similar with Satan to when it's the right moment for you too
I know I didn't give you answers you need, but thought it was best to share my personal experience,

From what you describe and your experience, this sounds like an enemy attack. You describe many negative things here, including associations with Buddha or whatever, which are related to the enemy. If you were disconnected from the Gods and also from your meditations, yet also seeking some sort of connection, you could have made yourself as a prime target for an attack to take place. Imagine if you had continued to try to the connect to this entity who appeared "Grey" and had Buddha statues?

It is best to work through their sigil, as I had described above, to avoid these sorts of situations.

 

[Member]

From what you describe and your experience, this sounds like an enemy attack. You describe many negative things here, including associations with Buddha or whatever, which are related to the enemy. If you were disconnected from the Gods and also from your meditations, yet also seeking some sort of connection, you could have made yourself as a prime target for an attack to take place. Imagine if you had continued to try to the connect to this entity who appeared "Grey" and had Buddha statues?

It is best to work through their sigil, as I had described above, to avoid these sorts of

From what you describe and your experience, this sounds like an enemy attack. You describe many negative things here, including associations with Buddha or whatever, which are related to the enemy. If you were disconnected from the Gods and also from your meditations, yet also seeking some sort of connection, you could have made yourself as a prime target for an attack to take place. Imagine if you had continued to try to the connect to this entity who appeared "Grey" and had Buddha statues?

It is best to work through their sigil, as I had described above, to avoid these sorts of situations.

Some astral type of mind rape I would say,,
I tried reaching out to Satan after it but never got any sort of feedback,sign or any GD,
Hearing another Experienced Satanist point out to the same doubts I had just made me shiver,I really did consent to some things I would even want to talk about, fucking hell I thought this was it,this was my D-Day,
Also I had very strange follow up events in the days that followed but for now it's been months since anything like that happened so guess that's a W!???
Honestly thought we had ready dedicated satanist have ready GDs to prevent such kind of experience but guess for some things we can go through on our own just fine,
For the 'grey' part,, she had that bulbous head but a bluish pinkish skin and wore Egyptian Hedjet,,a Golden one,could only find reference of white and blue ones in ancient Egypt so I couldn't tell it's significance
As for the buddha statues around her ,they were miniature and like extending from her aura,and they looked more like Manjushri ,
But hell,,we too can eventually do such feats?
Kind of like Isaac Netero 100 type Guanyi Bodhisattva,,

 

[Imhotep]

Exactly what I keep thinking along with my friend. Why are there so many sightings of UFOS, reports of people being abducted by aliens, reptilians etc. People seeing angels and so on but we can’t see our Gods? This is truly hard to believe. Let alone the colours of the website for example. Yes, this is another topic but we say our religion is nothing about darkness or that we twisted the meaning of darkness, but we have had the meaning for these colors through history, black is darkness and red is blood. The Pentagram on the website looks very modern satanistic to me, why don’t we have something ancient? The Gods can’t show you ancient examples High Priests? So many of us are here trying to understand what the hell is happening or will happen in the world, worrying, overthinking and you ask us to put our faith in the Gods no matter. I do not wish to sound ignorant but that does sound a bit christian. They say the same thing, trust in the lord. I do not like this at all. I have asked my GD for sightings, tried talking to Satan. Where are the messages? Signals? I ask can you move at least something in my room to know you truly hear me? Nothing. @Akay said Satan/Gods appear to those who have true potential. Shouldn’t we all have that? We did the damn dedication ritual, i feel like that says a lot from our side. I don’t know what else to say. This world is so fucking messed up, we see no gods, yet reptilians have free pass here, so much propaganda and misconfusion. I was talking to one of my friends who is also a SS, we came to the conclusion that we connect more with nature then with gods.

I definitely do the power meditations every day and have also started a diary for them. I am also working on my chakras, especially my secondary chakras, to promote clairvoyance and clairaudience. I have already had some initial success and can feel my chakras. However, I'm not sure whether, if I actually make contact with an entity, I'm not just imagining it because of my creative potential. In other words, it is possible that the entity I see is just a product of my own imagination. The child is possibly more receptive to recognizing entities because it is still permanently living in a theta state. At least I vividly remember that most encounters with astral entities and regressions to previous lives took place in my childhood up to the age of 15. From then on, I only had sporadic visions and was inexplicably drawn to magical signs, which caused me to suddenly slip into another present. A friend who is not SS, but who has had enlightenment experiences, said that these could be overreactions of the brain. He is a hard-nosed rationalist and lawyer and literally said to me, because he knows my life story very well: "You wouldn't believe what a brain like that is capable of. It's a perfectly functioning organism".

 

[Imhotep]

There is one thing to really consider. Dedication is a choice you make to reject the enemy's indoctrination, but above all it is a path of personal growth. In two years of constant meditation, getting up even at 4/5/6 in the morning and then going to work for 9 hours, I am only now receiving clear signs! But it's not a race. Above all, contact with the Gods occurs when your soul begins to purify and cleanse itself from previous "dirt" such as traumas, limits and self-destructive thoughts.

The Gods are there, and will always be there. At the beginning they will be more present helping you with situations that are close to your heart but you have to earn the rest. The time will come when you will be able to better perceive their presence and that of Father Satan.

One must also consider how old one's soul is and where you are starting over with your spiritual openness.

I am receiving signs from my Guardian now that I feel are obvious signs, before this I was never sure.

The only certainty I had is their continuous and constant presence for protection and help. Like a parent who will always have your back, he will always support you but will also let you make mistakes.

Don't be in a hurry for a contact, work on yourself, follow a daily meditation and yoga routine and you will see that when you least realize it you will notice your progress

Yes, I will definitely take that to heart. Even though I'm still missing the signs of the gods, I can feel significant changes in my life since I've been doing the daily power meditations and chakra work. I feel more alive, fresher, clearer, healthier, braver, full of energy and even feel that I am gradually rejuvenating. The need for distraction is receding more and more and when I am approached by manipulation, I am now more aware of it and reject it immediately.

 

[Imhotep]

Hello,,
I don't want this to feel like a fellow 'Christian'(as you see it ) giving you a testimony to keep your Faith up merely because my Cow made a cup more milk today than yesterday or my neighbor's died mine didn't,so please bear with me and hope you can atleast get something useful from this,
I have been dedicated for quite some years now,
Meditation routine has been an on and off thing ,but for the last eight months it has been quite consistent and I can atleast get to see I see something different,
Satan has the ability of meeting anyone, anywhere anytime but you withstanding that presence is quite a gamble,
After my dedication, my life really took a very strange trajectory,one that was really enough of a reason for someone who's scares easily to think they made the single most terrible decision of their life,
I wasn't meditating,kept giving myself 'Justifiable' excuses like I need to find my own apartment first,I need to have a stable job for this to be consistent and things just really stagnated,
So by the time it really dawned on me to meditate(am not suggesting you don't, please bear with me) it was really to find myself at this point, and I did,and strangely enough a 'Satan' incident happened,and looking back I treat that as how most satanist would treat the planet Saturn,it exists there as a challenge for you to embrace change and self-improvement, stronger foundation begets stronger temples,
I used to think meeting Satan will automatically make everything 200% better but really didn't,I met a consciousness (lack of better words) that somehow suggestively or subconsciously registered to me as Satan on the astral,and the energy he/it had felt Shiva in some way,I was also introduced to my GD who didn't seem anything Nordic or any race that's on the website,the GD had something 'Grey' in her,
I strangely remember none of the conversation that happened during that meeting or even the GD name,and it quite literally threw me in a delusional state afterwards,I was increasingly paranoid of it being the enemy sort of abduction but am glad I still got the organs in my immediate vision ,
No meeting ever followed and no voice told me not to be afraid or not to overthink about that event so It bothered for me a while,
really made me question a lot about the idea of it being just my imagination(it was so fucking detailed,the GD even had some type of thoughtforms around her that looked like those buddha statues with multiple arms and they would react to me if I tried to touch them, honestly even if it was the enemy,this was pretty cool to experience,)
But the idea of the memory of it feels like it's on mute still stresses me out,
That was my experience with a non Human intelligence whether Satan's or not,
And it opened me up tomorrow alot of things I had to do,
I realized how naked, vulnerable, childish and powerless we can be when in faced with real divine power whether subjectively evil or good.
We can be naive to just believe anything that's seems mind-blowing or out of our sense of understanding .
Maybe someday I will remember what really transpired but for now I really have to work on the invulnerability points I had,
It's no longer felt a case of what Satan had to offer to me,but exactly what I had to really offer,like it just felt like the firsts steps in JOS are really some grading or test system and Satan will definitely act in accordance to what's the best and productive approach,
If a meeting happens it will subconsciously affect you more than you will perceive physically,,
But this just me running theories as to what tf happened since I got no idea,,,,
And I really hope you get to experience something similar with Satan to when it's the right moment for you too
I know I didn't give you answers you need, but thought it was best to share my personal experience,

You have given me more than you can imagine and I sincerely thank you for your open words and the experiences you were willing to share with me. I wish you with all my heart the blessing of our father Satan and that your life stabilizes in a positive sense on all levels and bears rich fruits that increase your gratitude and joy in Satan and give you a life of bliss.
Hail Satan!
Hail Lucifer!
Hail Abraxas!

 

[pagan-stitches]

I definitely do the power meditations every day and have also started a diary for them. I am also working on my chakras, especially my secondary chakras, to promote clairvoyance and clairaudience. I have already had some initial success and can feel my chakras. However, I'm not sure whether, if I actually make contact with an entity, I'm not just imagining it because of my creative potential. In other words, it is possible that the entity I see is just a product of my own imagination. The child is possibly more receptive to recognizing entities because it is still permanently living in a theta state. At least I vividly remember that most encounters with astral entities and regressions to previous lives took place in my childhood up to the age of 15. From then on, I only had sporadic visions and was inexplicably drawn to magical signs, which caused me to suddenly slip into another present. A friend who is not SS, but who has had enlightenment experiences, said that these could be overreactions of the brain. He is a hard-nosed rationalist and lawyer and literally said to me, because he knows my life story very well: "You wouldn't believe what a brain like that is capable of. It's a perfectly functioning organism".

Same, I am doing the same things as you. Chakras, minor chakras, energy, aura workings etc. I have come to a conclusion that it just takes time until we can really see and hear things like they do in movies/tv shows for example. The closest thing I have experience that I could name supernatural is sleep paralysis, along with my friend. Weird encounters but again many science this is just the brain. I too could tell and manifest future as I wanted with just simple thoughts when I was around 13-17 years old. I could see my room door move strangely, my plates move out of nowhere but again this CAN and also CANNOT be something magic. We can trick our brain so easily into thinking we see something.
And also a note to this - if wiccans and other type of magic practitioners are able to get see things why can’t we?

 

[pagan-stitches]

Hello,,
I don't want this to feel like a fellow 'Christian'(as you see it ) giving you a testimony to keep your Faith up merely because my Cow made a cup more milk today than yesterday or my neighbor's died mine didn't,so please bear with me and hope you can atleast get something useful from this,
I have been dedicated for quite some years now,
Meditation routine has been an on and off thing ,but for the last eight months it has been quite consistent and I can atleast get to see I see something different,
Satan has the ability of meeting anyone, anywhere anytime but you withstanding that presence is quite a gamble,
After my dedication, my life really took a very strange trajectory,one that was really enough of a reason for someone who's scares easily to think they made the single most terrible decision of their life,
I wasn't meditating,kept giving myself 'Justifiable' excuses like I need to find my own apartment first,I need to have a stable job for this to be consistent and things just really stagnated,
So by the time it really dawned on me to meditate(am not suggesting you don't, please bear with me) it was really to find myself at this point, and I did,and strangely enough a 'Satan' incident happened,and looking back I treat that as how most satanist would treat the planet Saturn,it exists there as a challenge for you to embrace change and self-improvement, stronger foundation begets stronger temples,
I used to think meeting Satan will automatically make everything 200% better but really didn't,I met a consciousness (lack of better words) that somehow suggestively or subconsciously registered to me as Satan on the astral,and the energy he/it had felt Shiva in some way,I was also introduced to my GD who didn't seem anything Nordic or any race that's on the website,the GD had something 'Grey' in her,
I strangely remember none of the conversation that happened during that meeting or even the GD name,and it quite literally threw me in a delusional state afterwards,I was increasingly paranoid of it being the enemy sort of abduction but am glad I still got the organs in my immediate vision ,
No meeting ever followed and no voice told me not to be afraid or not to overthink about that event so It bothered for me a while,
really made me question a lot about the idea of it being just my imagination(it was so fucking detailed,the GD even had some type of thoughtforms around her that looked like those buddha statues with multiple arms and they would react to me if I tried to touch them, honestly even if it was the enemy,this was pretty cool to experience,)
But the idea of the memory of it feels like it's on mute still stresses me out,
That was my experience with a non Human intelligence whether Satan's or not,
And it opened me up tomorrow alot of things I had to do,
I realized how naked, vulnerable, childish and powerless we can be when in faced with real divine power whether subjectively evil or good.
We can be naive to just believe anything that's seems mind-blowing or out of our sense of understanding .
Maybe someday I will remember what really transpired but for now I really have to work on the invulnerability points I had,
It's no longer felt a case of what Satan had to offer to me,but exactly what I had to really offer,like it just felt like the firsts steps in JOS are really some grading or test system and Satan will definitely act in accordance to what's the best and productive approach,
If a meeting happens it will subconsciously affect you more than you will perceive physically,,
But this just me running theories as to what tf happened since I got no idea,,,,
And I really hope you get to experience something similar with Satan to when it's the right moment for you too
I know I didn't give you answers you need, but thought it was best to share my personal experience,

No, it doesn’t answer to many question but I will take something from your text for myself. I can relate to things you mentioned here and yeah it’s pretty logic that I won’t be forever happy, love myself everyday, worry no more, stress no more etc after an encounter to Satan. What interests me is how he is, how he thinks, this forum says he knows us better, better than we do. I would very much like to hear that. How can I heal myself? Who was I? Who am I? Do I have a mission here? Do you except some things for me to be done on Earth? What is my true name? My parents? Show me the HISTORY of the world! I think everybody would love to hear that. To have a high intelligent extraterrestrial help you, hear you, teach you things, have empathy for you and not just tell you: ,,Oh you feel somewhat ugly? Just do venus square.”.

 

[Imhotep]

Communication with the Gods is not just about whether one has potential or not, but whether you can actually have receive them. Like all things, we are the limit here. If your astral sight and hearing is closed, what exactly are you supposed to hear or see? Further, if you have convinced yourself that no message can ever appear, or that nature has some sort of value that the Gods do not, then this only continues to weaken your situation.

For new people, likely signs include seeing numbers, or seeing key words appear multiple times. Maybe you hear a thought in your head that seems outside your chain of thought and appears to answer your question.

In addition, you have to do more, not less. Therefore, do the ritual of the God(s) you wish to connect with. Whilst meditating on their sigil, draw in their energy into your soul, especially the upper chakras. Do this many times to establish familiarity and an energy connection. This will increase your sensitivity towards them, such that even if your astral hearing is not open, you may still "feel" that they are thinking of you, or trying to communicate.

Thank you, these are really good suggestions that you have given someone. I also know that I still have a lot of work to do on myself. I have allowed myself to definitely incorporate your suggestions into my life as well. I am so happy to be a part of JoS.
Hail Satan!
Hail Lucifer!
Hail Abraxas!

 

[Imhotep]

I am sorry but that is NO answer to what he/she said. You come with no answer and start praising Satan just like a christian as if that would explain things this person wants. Just like a christian who is being told that god doesn’t exist they start saying god is all mighty, rules the world etc. You have to come with facts here. I have nothing against Gods or Satan but if you want to explain things to people who doubt this or are interested to join then i am here to tell that it is NOT the correct way. You say Satan is elevated above all powers of heaven and hell. Hello? This entire religion here and the websites say pretty clear that heaven nor hell exist. The only place that should be considerated “heaven” is Orion, where we apparently go after we die, so I have read. “All the demons…” Demons? Shouldn’t we use this word? Shouldn’t we call them GODS like people used to in ancient times?

In principle, I agree with you that Baalzebub666 did not answer my question directly, but exchanged the claims about the Christian God for the claims about Satan. I knew Christians who claimed with conviction that they had met their God or Jesus and that he had appeared to them in life. I could not confirm this, although I prayed to him for years. I did have apparitions as a child and teenager. Wotan appeared to me in the clouds, beings entered my life very briefly after I touched a sigil or was attracted by magical signs. I got to know many beings, especially in my dreams. But with all these apparitions I was never sure whether they weren't just products of my own imagination.
An inner urge first led me to a Saturnian lodge and after almost 10 years I became intensively and sincerely involved with JoS, although I had already come across the JoS website 8 years ago. At that time, however, I only glanced at it briefly and was deterred by the strange images from looking at it more closely.

 

[pagan-stitches]

In principle, I agree with you that Baalzebub666 did not answer my question directly, but exchanged the claims about the Christian God for the claims about Satan. I knew Christians who claimed with conviction that they had met their God or Jesus and that he had appeared to them in life. I could not confirm this, although I prayed to him for years. I did have apparitions as a child and teenager. Wotan appeared to me in the clouds, beings entered my life very briefly after I touched a sigil or was attracted by magical signs. I got to know many beings, especially in my dreams. But with all these apparitions I was never sure whether they weren't just products of my own imagination.
An inner urge first led me to a Saturnian lodge and after almost 10 years I became intensively and sincerely involved with JoS, although I had already come across the JoS website 8 years ago. At that time, however, I only glanced at it briefly and was deterred by the strange images from looking at it more closely.

Yes I think it is very important how we approach people’s questions and interest here. We cannot be like other believers, we cannot. If we start saying no no no our religion is the true one, our gods are the true ones with no explanation and profesionalism we are no better, people will put us in the same box as other crazy believers.

 

[Imhotep]

Same, I am doing the same things as you. Chakras, minor chakras, energy, aura workings etc. I have come to a conclusion that it just takes time until we can really see and hear things like they do in movies/tv shows for example. The closest thing I have experience that I could name supernatural is sleep paralysis, along with my friend. Weird encounters but again many science this is just the brain. I too could tell and manifest future as I wanted with just simple thoughts when I was around 13-17 years old. I could see my room door move strangely, my plates move out of nowhere but again this CAN and also CANNOT be something magic. We can trick our brain so easily into thinking we see something.
And also a note to this - if wiccans and other type of magic practitioners are able to get see things why can’t we?

I allow myself to kiss your soul and ask your forgiveness if I may have gone a step too far. Of course I fully respect your existence. It is so good to read what you write so openly. Yes, as a child and teenager I could also make chairs whirl through the air and I saw witch-like figures in the forks of trees and corners of rooms. I spoke to them as if they were familiar and had never heard of them before, neither in a book nor from other people. My parents were pure atheists and didn't believe in the church or supernatural things. They literally drank their lives away and made a mess of them. I myself even saw my own birth and how I had previously been a spirit being. At the age of 20, all memories gradually faded. It wasn't until the death of a beloved friend that I was drawn back into the world of the supernatural. Although I fiercely resisted it, because my life seemed to be controlled by others. Since then, I began a painful search for the source of all being. I had out-of-body experiences and experienced how other entities wanted to take over my body. At times I was living twice and felt schizophrenic. However, I saw through the esotericists as frauds quite early on, because most of them couldn't report any real experiences, but only regurgitated what they had picked up from others. This also included many so-called self-proclaimed gurus and "wisdom teachers". Ultimately, they only wanted to make a lot of money with esotericism and therefore did not shy away from lies and deception. It didn't matter whether they called themselves evangelicals like Billy Graham type, Rosicrucians like AAOORAC, AMORC or Lectorium Rosicrucianum, Satanists like Church of Satan, Temple of Set, OTO etc., true Catholics like the people from Opus Dei or Gnostics like the Church of Light etc. or Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses or members of another sect. Most of them were purely materialistic and had no real spirituality. I noticed this time and again, especially at esoteric fairs. Unsuccessful in life, they offered books and seminars at inflated prices in order to make money through deception.

 

[Imhotep]

Yes I think it is very important how we approach people’s questions and interest here. We cannot be like other believers, we cannot. If we start saying no no no our religion is the true one, our gods are the true ones with no explanation and profesionalism we are no better, people will put us in the same box as other crazy believers.

I have to agree with you on that. I think like you. It's so important to stay honest and not fool yourself. It's nice that you've come into my life. I enjoy reading your posts. They give me great pleasure. Feel free to tell me more about your life. Above all. How did you find JoS? Did it also trigger a special gratitude in you and the feeling of having arrived?

 

[Ayssid]

In two years of constant meditation, getting up even at 4/5/6 in the morning and then going to work for 9 hours, I am only now receiving clear signs!

This is nothing but disheartening, honestly. Depends on how mucy time you spent each day meditating. I for one dedicate an hour a day to power meditations, now if you tell me you spent 2 years meditating every day for like 3 hours I will jump from the nearest 10th floor I can find xD. Nice name btw.

No, it doesn’t answer to many question but I will take something from your text for myself. I can relate to things you mentioned here and yeah it’s pretty logic that I won’t be forever happy, love myself everyday, worry no more, stress no more etc after an encounter to Satan. What interests me is how he is, how he thinks, this forum says he knows us better, better than we do. I would very much like to hear that. How can I heal myself? Who was I? Who am I? Do I have a mission here? Do you except some things for me to be done on Earth? What is my true name? My parents? Show me the HISTORY of the world! I think everybody would love to hear that. To have a high intelligent extraterrestrial help you, hear you, teach you things, have empathy for you and not just tell you: ,,Oh you feel somewhat ugly? Just do venus square.”.

lmao "just do Venus square". You missed the Sun Square too, that is a common one as well.

Yes I think it is very important how we approach people’s questions and interest here. We cannot be like other believers, we cannot. If we start saying no no no our religion is the true one, our gods are the true ones with no explanation and profesionalism we are no better, people will put us in the same box as other crazy believers.

Unfortunately there's not much they can do here in my opinion. I am new here as well and I totally agree with you. I do think that so far being an SS is not much different than being a xian pragmatically speaking, except for the core beliefs and the way the rituals/meditations are done. Either way, at least the upside is that we don't pay a dime to experiment, and meditations are good for the brain in general, excluding the spiritual benefits. I don't know how much of a bargain it is, but I do agree that a more comprehensive history of everything that went down would help people like you or I take it more seriously. I've seen AskSatan questions of people asking for clarifications and all they've got is a variation of "git gud". It falls into the new age pitfall of pushing all blame on the practitioner because the practitioner is not yet capable of comprehending anything, but in order to comprehend anything one must be open and a skeptical practicioner wants to be convinced of the veracity and effectiveness of the practice, not put blind faith. If someone were to ask me if I am a good programmer, would I just tell them "trust me dud"? No, I'd show them a github repository or make them a program. Here actions speak louder than words, but in the occult it's hard to ever see proof outside of your own consciousness. For all it matters, though, for witchcraft your consciousness is all that you need, the rest is filler. I would suggest you take this place mostly as a place to learn about the occult and using magik and less about focusing on actual history and deities. I for one don't even bother with rituals that are not RTRs, and I don't even know if RTRs even work. Other than that, I just spam power meditations and work with energy. The only pages I ever visit regularly are the power meditations page and jos astro in case there is a date I need to take into account. This isn't to diminish or deny the existence of the Gods, I've had weird encounters like seeing car plates spelling "SAT", a goat coming up to me to feed it when it had plenty of grass at its feet and other weird things that I can only interpret as signs, but it's all so coincidental...

 

[Member]

Same, I am doing the same things as you. Chakras, minor chakras, energy, aura workings etc. I have come to a conclusion that it just takes time until we can really see and hear things like they do in movies/tv shows for example. The closest thing I have experience that I could name supernatural is sleep paralysis, along with my friend. Weird encounters but again many science this is just the brain. I too could tell and manifest future as I wanted with just simple thoughts when I was around 13-17 years old. I could see my room door move strangely, my plates move out of nowhere but again this CAN and also CANNOT be something magic. We can trick our brain so easily into thinking we see something.
And also a note to this - if wiccans and other type of magic practitioners are able to get see things why can’t we

Swear to the heavens this forums is in my mind
Something can be bothering me and next thing I find is a recent post about it,
LOL,,
I used to have very keen interest in wicca and demonolatry and I would find all these accounts of practitioners who have successfully made contact with demons or some supernal being .I could bet my life on it some of them never meditated a day in their life,but who am I to judge, might be some cheat code based hereditary trait,but the usual red flags are a lot of them referencing from Judaic mystics and it's no surprise that those approach might wield success to them judging by how Jews have a lot of psychic energy to go around,,
There is a post on the exposing Christianity site about the Jesus thoughtform and how Jesuits could feel,live, experience the Jesus thoughtform by 'forcing their senses to'

The Nazarene Thoughtform

My thoughts on how Wicca magics and Demonolatry manages to get contact is perhaps because they experience thoughtforms meant to slander the Gods ,There is alot of that christians,Islams or Jesuits psychic energy governed by Judaic beliefs system keeping up those thoughtforms functioning,
If the Christian belief of a savior Jesus manifests the entity I don't see why not the same case would be possible for what Christians thinks demons are manifesting too,,am no expert on this case but seems a more plausible explanation,,they are not really contacting the Gods, but guess we will eventually find out and learn more as we advance on what really goes on since some of us are still on the more hopeful and speculative points of spiritual satanism,
A Jar can only take in as much water as it can hold,it's not wrong to not be able to bench press 350 lbs on our first day at the gym,
I really do hope we get that personal connections some of us yearn for before we give in to the voices of doubt,

 

[pagan-stitches]

I have to agree with you on that. I think like you. It's so important to stay honest and not fool yourself. It's nice that you've come into my life. I enjoy reading your posts. They give me great pleasure. Feel free to tell me more about your life. Above all. How did you find JoS? Did it also trigger a special gratitude in you and the feeling of having arrived?

Thank you I joined when I was 15, i discovered the romanian version. I was living back then in germany and because i grew up a few years in romania it felt and still feels like my mother tongue, a very melodic language. i was very interested in having magical powers. i was watching movies like harry potter, carrie, tvd, american horror story coven, avengers etc and i felt drawn to it. I will not deny i was also a victim of bullying in school, it wasn’t that bad but it still affected me. because of getting bullied i searched for magic powers to make my bully pay, but of course it didn’t work. i was never an emo kid, listening to metal punk, cutting my hands or anything, but i was hoping for something to make them pay. I remember the day very good - i was reading about elements on the internet and jos(bucuria lui satan) appeared and it was an interesting website no doubt, i mean i am still here after all. but as i was a kid i did not take it very much as a nature based religion. i was immediately interested in voodoo,dark arts, necromancy and so on as my mind wasn’t very developed back then i took it as a more dark religion, as again the website is black and red mostly so a kid like me would think the same. and after reading and reading i dedicated, it felt special, that day. i felt a warmth and safety inside me. i was also a long time very lucky and suddenly i had this telling future talent. i was seeing scenes from the near future and they were all happening, i could tell what others were going to say in the next second(people became so pretty predictable for me, and i was 15), i images scenes in my head with people and short after they were happening and it felt damn good for me, i felt like i was shaping the world around me. i even did voodoo for a cousin of mine on her stepfather: i didn’t look after moon phases and so on i just built the puppet and imagined it was him while i was plucking it with needles and guess what, the next day he was in the hospital with major lung problems, the needles were in his lungs and heart mostly. it was interesting, but i kinda took a stepback. i was getting older and life got more and more serious for me. parents, moving out, school, work etc and i stopped meditating and so on but i never forgot about paganism, i was always checking the website. i also have to say that reading what the enemy has done to our world and religion made me very angry while being a teenager and i was most of the time just angry with people and the world, i was a ball full of hate and i realised i had to stop reading about jews all the time and focus more on myself. and here i am meditating again, and kinda trying to seek my guardian god/goddess because i would very much like some guidance or true honest words. i am happy to say i also got my 2 best friends into paganism.
a small add on:
before i got into paganism i always doubted christiany. sadly romania is still very much under the influence of orthodox christianity and i had it in school here. i had a strict teacher in religion and she was also forcing us to pray at the end of the hour, she used to bring us icons of jesus/mary etc to draw them with colors, we read of saints and so on. i was always interested in my so called guardian angel. she told me everyone had one and i, while being in damn 7th grade was already thinking ,,how can i contact him?” and i asked her. guess her response: ,,you can contact your guardian angel through pray”. i was like are u kidding me? i told her: ,, do you think my guardian angel is going to know i want to ask him ,,how are you today?” if i say our father in heaven?” you can’t be this dumb. and so my belief started to die in christianity. i was reading many articles about this religion and every article was different and it felt like nothing was making sense.

 

[Henu the Great]

This is nothing but disheartening, honestly. Depends on how mucy time you spent each day meditating. I for one dedicate an hour a day to power meditations, now if you tell me you spent 2 years meditating every day for like 3 hours I will jump from the nearest 10th floor I can find xD. Nice name btw.

Any skill takes time and dedication to get built up, that is simply the way it works. And you can not compare yourself to any other individual as we are unique in this regard. What might be one hour to you is three hours to another and vice versa. Quitting for any of us would be the greatest mistake ever made for that would set one back so much for no good reason at all when we have the greatest tools at hand with the best support available.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Unfortunately there's not much they can do here in my opinion. I am new here as well and I totally agree with you. I do think that so far being an SS is not much different than being a xian pragmatically speaking, except for the core beliefs and the way the rituals/meditations are done. Either way, at least the upside is that we don't pay a dime to experiment, and meditations are good for the brain in general, excluding the spiritual benefits. I don't know how much of a bargain it is, but I do agree that a more comprehensive history of everything that went down would help people like you or I take it more seriously. I've seen AskSatan questions of people asking for clarifications and all they've got is a variation of "git gud". It falls into the new age pitfall of pushing all blame on the practitioner because the practitioner is not yet capable of comprehending anything, but in order to comprehend anything one must be open and a skeptical practicioner wants to be convinced of the veracity and effectiveness of the practice, not put blind faith. If someone were to ask me if I am a good programmer, would I just tell them "trust me dud"? No, I'd show them a github repository or make them a program. Here actions speak louder than words, but in the occult it's hard to ever see proof outside of your own consciousness. For all it matters, though, for witchcraft your consciousness is all that you need, the rest is filler.

How is this place like Christianity at all? You say "well, not in the core beliefs, and not in the rituals". So what else? We did not even say to have blind faith, either. In fact, we said it is the opposite, that it takes time and personal, tangible development to get certain results. So what remains for you to slap on this label of Christianity? This is like slander at this point.

I would suggest you take this place mostly as a place to learn about the occult and using magik and less about focusing on actual history and deities.

Are you out of your mind? The Gods are the basis of our spirituality, as our teachers and guardians. Without them and relying just on our own, we would have been crushed by the enemy.
You say "I don't mean to diminish the existence of the Gods", but this is exactly what you are doing by issuing this statement.

Your interpretation of this path being of blind faith is your own perception, as HPS Maxine says that we should do what works for us and that she or others are not mediators for the Gods. The same goes for astral communication with the Gods. All of this is considered advanced, or intermediate at best; proportional to one's natal skills and the effort of practice in doing this.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

No, it doesn’t answer to many question but I will take something from your text for myself. I can relate to things you mentioned here and yeah it’s pretty logic that I won’t be forever happy, love myself everyday, worry no more, stress no more etc after an encounter to Satan. What interests me is how he is, how he thinks, this forum says he knows us better, better than we do. I would very much like to hear that. How can I heal myself? Who was I? Who am I? Do I have a mission here? Do you except some things for me to be done on Earth? What is my true name? My parents? Show me the HISTORY of the world! I think everybody would love to hear that. To have a high intelligent extraterrestrial help you, hear you, teach you things, have empathy for you and not just tell you: ,,Oh you feel somewhat ugly? Just do venus square.”.

It is impossible for us to provide specific advice for your situation without knowing personal details. We can mainly only share various spiritual solutions and sermons, but we don't know the exact karma you are facing.

Also, your GD and Satan exist and act whether or not you sense them. They guide you to your answers if you are open. Don't dismiss their efforts just because they didn't appear in a dream. A more practical result of praying would be that you find a new article on a subject that you were curious about which provides you critical information for your answer. This could be a single event like this, or maybe multiple occurs over a larger time period, especially if you are praying for the same thing and making an effort to research on your own. After time has passed, you could judge your progress and realize you had made much greater progress than someone else would have by working alone.

 

[Persephone]

This is nothing but disheartening, honestly. Depends on how mucy time you spent each day meditating. I for one dedicate an hour a day to power meditations, now if you tell me you spent 2 years meditating every day for like 3 hours I will jump from the nearest 10th floor I can find xD. Nice name btw.


lmao "just do Venus square". You missed the Sun Square too, that is a common one as well.


Unfortunately there's not much they can do here in my opinion. I am new here as well and I totally agree with you. I do think that so far being an SS is not much different than being a xian pragmatically speaking, except for the core beliefs and the way the rituals/meditations are done. Either way, at least the upside is that we don't pay a dime to experiment, and meditations are good for the brain in general, excluding the spiritual benefits. I don't know how much of a bargain it is, but I do agree that a more comprehensive history of everything that went down would help people like you or I take it more seriously. I've seen AskSatan questions of people asking for clarifications and all they've got is a variation of "git gud". It falls into the new age pitfall of pushing all blame on the practitioner because the practitioner is not yet capable of comprehending anything, but in order to comprehend anything one must be open and a skeptical practicioner wants to be convinced of the veracity and effectiveness of the practice, not put blind faith. If someone were to ask me if I am a good programmer, would I just tell them "trust me dud"? No, I'd show them a github repository or make them a program. Here actions speak louder than words, but in the occult it's hard to ever see proof outside of your own consciousness. For all it matters, though, for witchcraft your consciousness is all that you need, the rest is filler. I would suggest you take this place mostly as a place to learn about the occult and using magik and less about focusing on actual history and deities. I for one don't even bother with rituals that are not RTRs, and I don't even know if RTRs even work. Other than that, I just spam power meditations and work with energy. The only pages I ever visit regularly are the power meditations page and jos astro in case there is a date I need to take into account. This isn't to diminish or deny the existence of the Gods, I've had weird encounters like seeing car plates spelling "SAT", a goat coming up to me to feed it when it had plenty of grass at its feet and other weird things that I can only interpret as signs, but it's all so coincidental...

Haha no please don't jump LOL!
I had clear signs even before dedicating myself but my mind was full of garbage, of judgments that pushed me to doubt myself.

In two years I dedicated myself to opening the chakras, overcoming depression by meditating and working on myself. My path has been really uphill, only now I'm finally confident, free and truly happy. And now I know that when I get answers or received them before (thinking back to those moments) it was me who couldn't see. And consider that Spiritual Satanism is an individual path that depends on experience, past lives (if any) etc.
Now I work many hours a day and I dedicate the rest to meditation and yoga because I feel that's what I have to do. Now my meditation lasts 1 hour, maximum 1 hour and a half.

Thanks for the name. I've had this nickname since I was 13, it was the nickname my best friend gave me.

 

[pagan-stitches]

How is this place like Christianity at all? You say "well, not in the core beliefs, and not in the rituals". So what else? We did not even say to have blind faith, either. In fact, we said it is the opposite, that it takes time and personal, tangible development to get certain results. So what remains for you to slap on this label of Christianity? This is like slander at this point.



Are you out of your mind? The Gods are the basis of our spirituality, as our teachers and guardians. Without them and relying just on our own, we would have been crushed by the enemy.
You say "I don't mean to diminish the existence of the Gods", but this is exactly what you are doing by issuing this statement.

Your interpretation of this path being of blind faith is your own perception, as HPS Maxine says that we should do what works for us and that she or others are not mediators for the Gods. The same goes for astral communication with the Gods. All of this is considered advanced, or intermediate at best; proportional to one's natal skills and the effort of practice in doing this.

I wouldn’t say he/she said Paganism is 1 to 1 like christianity but like any other religion, it demands faith. Doesn’t have to be blind faith, but faith. Otherwise why would you join right? With rituals i think they meant as christiany has i don’t know baptism etc we also have it. Yes, it was all stolen from us, but it also has it.
I would like to say something about how we would have been crushed by the enemy if the Gods weren’t there. Call me blasphemous, ignorant everything you want but I have a brain and I use it, this is why questions keep coming.
The website itself says that the Gods were “locked” from us, their wings were “chained” and we were separated from us. Haven’t we been crushed already? We have history of ancient civilazations, statues, sculptures, temples, writing etc from like 2,500 y ago but i personally think even then we were corrupted by the enemy. I think the real ancient advanced people from the gods time go back way more. We had so many wars, bloodshed, women raped, children killed, inquisition, civil war etc..There is war in ukraine right now, there is war in palestine. Those poor children. Forget the religion and the brainwashed people but the little children that you see on youtube shorts and instagram begging for food, looking traumatised. What about them? You are a guardian i see, i assume you can talk to gods? What do they think about this? They just let some people die so greater things may come? Sacrifices must be made?
I have a strong connection to this religion let alone when i watch a painting of goddess Innana, but someone who thinks has to ask these questions. There are people out there who will ask even more complex questions about this if it will ever come to the public eye as a religion in our time before we die in this life.