RED DAWN said:Dahaarkan said:RED DAWN said:There's that "thoughtform" term again... I think what the Joy of Satan defines as a thoughtform should be specified clearly, instead of dismissing enemies as some simple predictable non-conscious spirits. If an enemy "thoughtform" is more powerful, intelligent and sophisticated than the average human, I would definitely either suggest the entity isn't a thoughtform or that all humans below a certain consciousness are also thoughtforms. Yes, I suppose lying about the nature of the enemy is a useful rhetorical method for inciting a sense of hope, but when it comes to "combatting" these enemy gods, we'll get rekted. Nobody here ever talks about how there's multimillion year old reptillian gods, or other primordial entities that predate perhaps even Satan (I have no idea how old he is). There's a reason why the Reptillians won the first war. We might take Earth, yes, but our conflict hardly ends there. If we become addicted to hope, we cannot face truth and withstand it. Amor Fati.
I do not trust the old gods, I don't even like them all that much admittedly. I have complete faith in Satan, I love this entity with all of my being. But I'm not particularly fond of the civilization He leads. Rebellion is not an option however. Service to His designs is rewarded with power and protections, and without Him we will simply be domesticated by the enemy.
There are no other options here. And the reality is that were it not for His protection and His mark, we would have already been devoured or enslaved. This rebellious attitude of yours accomplishes nothing.
There can be no diplomacy with a civilization that looks upon you as just a beast to be tamed and domesticated. Satan isn't just the best option, He is the only option. Without Him there is no hope.
Our perception alligns more than I'm willing to express.
In the case you are dabbling, or with many legs on many boats, as many occultists and LHP people are, then this is how it will be for you. This however describes a personal situation, not a real situation.
To keep trying on a consistent basis to dilute things and try to bring confused ideas into this place, does not help. If you follow Satan only for power or what you consider power, then any entity can swindle you out of this, with bogus claims such as your unmoderated posts.
In this case, these things are not real. You might want to worship bacteria or viruses, as they are here for millennia, and they have killed more humans than all reptilians combined in all of history ever.
These arguments do not really make sense, and come from what appears to be occult exposure to enemy drivel, and a feeling you need to twist things JoS says to cast doubts that do not exist on JoS.
Nobody said for example the enemy is "all thoughtforms", since their existence is recognized, and it has been elaborated how they are real beings behind what these basic thoughtforms are. The whole situation as its basic knowledge here is a show run by other entities such as the enemy etc.
Answering made up arguments is not doing much in itself.