Frustrated!

[Godmode]

You don't need to "fully transition". You are completely legitimate as a man in my eyes. I would suspect most here would agree.

Now if we are talking about your "parts" in a "medical" setting, you are a "woman". Just to keep things simple. But normally, in every other context? It sounds like you're a man. Like, even medically, it sounds like you are mostly male as well. It is what it is, but I totally understand where you're coming from here. Keep in mind that many medical terms are actually contradictory to typical phrases and words we use in every day life. If there are people calling you a homosexual woman, I honestly wouldn't feel bad just calling them out on it if I were you. That's totally fair

 

[Levimega]

if you are a woman you are a guardian to the portal of life. if you man you are gods heir. don't mutilate yourself it is abhored by the god of gods

 

[groryofsatan666]

Well this video of an African shaman may answer your question a little
https://youtu.be/6baah9U7qQo

 

[AfricaE]

Well this video of an African shaman may answer your question a little
https://youtu.be/6baah9U7qQo

That thing is a reptile

 

[Taol]

You don't need to "fully transition". You are completely legitimate as a man in my eyes. I would suspect most here would agree.

Now if we are talking about your "parts" in a "medical" setting, you are a "woman". Just to keep things simple. But normally, in every other context? It sounds like you're a man. Like, even medically, it sounds like you are mostly male as well. It is what it is, but I totally understand where you're coming from here. Keep in mind that many medical terms are actually contradictory to typical phrases and words we use in every day life. If there are people calling you a homosexual woman, I honestly wouldn't feel bad just calling them out on it if I were you. That's totally fair

By the way you seem to be the only person who responded who "Gets me". I appreciate that. As far as my biology goes, even though of the female parts as well as male traits but I go by advice that is given to biological men like in weight training or yoga, for an example. I have to watch my nutrition due to having to maintain my health as it is. I remember a while back I asked for advice or books on stuff for men as well as trans men. Basically it was same.
There is warrior yoga, navy seal 8 weeks fitness, and just a couple of others that was listed.

So basicly.. dont mind me saying it like this.. you think or consider yourself more a man because women aren't 'supposed' or 'physically capable' of doing things like physical exercise, calistenics, any form of martial arts .. ?

This is practicly BS. There have been many women throughout the times that have worked, fought, and the like. Its just that with those stupid programs of christianity and islam, that those stories have been shoved aside or altered.
If you want to take an example for our gods, one that comes to mind to me is Marchosias. And there are plenty of other female gods that show strength and the like.

One more thing that I wanted to say is, that if you are SERIOUSLY diagnosed with having XY chromosones, that you should take a look at your natal chart (because I don't know if there is anything in there that can indicate irregularities regarding to male/female), and do a working for it if necessary.

And also, though yoga and other spiritual practices, it is said that the body starts to represent the soul more and more.
So just keep up with meditations and such and you'll be fine.

 

[Godmode]

You don't need to "fully transition". You are completely legitimate as a man in my eyes. I would suspect most here would agree.

Now if we are talking about your "parts" in a "medical" setting, you are a "woman". Just to keep things simple. But normally, in every other context? It sounds like you're a man. Like, even medically, it sounds like you are mostly male as well. It is what it is, but I totally understand where you're coming from here. Keep in mind that many medical terms are actually contradictory to typical phrases and words we use in every day life. If there are people calling you a homosexual woman, I honestly wouldn't feel bad just calling them out on it if I were you. That's totally fair

By the way you seem to be the only person who responded who "Gets me". I appreciate that. As far as my biology goes, even though of the female parts as well as male traits but I go by advice that is given to biological men like in weight training or yoga, for an example. I have to watch my nutrition due to having to maintain my health as it is. I remember a while back I asked for advice or books on stuff for men as well as trans men. Basically it was same.
There is warrior yoga, navy seal 8 weeks fitness, and just a couple of others that was listed.

Yeah I mean like, it's not that just "big women" or "strong women" are "more masculine", it's more about the entire soul and the body's chemistry. So its about maleness basically... and to be fair that usually goes along with a high metabolism too. When I was young my bestfriend for three years was a female who identified as a male, never changed her parts, but I know someone very personally who's exactly like that so that's why I know what you're talking about. She had a very very masculine face with a square jaw, and was always mistaken for a boy. She was short, but ate a lot and never got fat. Most women store a lot of fat in the thighs for instance but she did not. I don't know why she was "like that", but it's just how she was. It's not like there was something wrong with her but yeah some people might just not get that. She was obviously basically just like a male, but was female, without being a medical hermaphrodite which is what you're explaining about yourself too. Don't take it personally if people don't understand because you seem to understand and accept yourself and that's the main thing

 

[Godmode]

Labels are a big problem obviously, I wish I knew the answer to this but probably your best bet for getting people to understand you is to just go by "male woman" or "woman that is basically a man". My friend who is like you also has that problem, I think she (last time I talked to her she still went by she) called herself a trans-man but it wasn't quite right for her either. My friend's roommate is also like this, but is a female-man instead of a male-woman. The label isn't as important as people just knowing who you are I suppose but it'd also be sweet if there were just another word for this.

 

[groryofsatan666]

Well this video of an African shaman may answer your question a little
https://youtu.be/6baah9U7qQo

That thing is a reptile

What

 

[AfricaE]

A cry solemn in thought

 

[Godmode]

By the way you seem to be the only person who responded who "Gets me". I appreciate that. As far as my biology goes, even though of the female parts as well as male traits but I go by advice that is given to biological men like in weight training or yoga, for an example. I have to watch my nutrition due to having to maintain my health as it is. I remember a while back I asked for advice or books on stuff for men as well as trans men. Basically it was same.
There is warrior yoga, navy seal 8 weeks fitness, and just a couple of others that was listed.

So basicly.. dont mind me saying it like this.. you think or consider yourself more a man because women aren't 'supposed' or 'physically capable' of doing things like physical exercise, calistenics, any form of martial arts .. ?

This is practicly BS. There have been many women throughout the times that have worked, fought, and the like. Its just that with those stupid programs of christianity and islam, that those stories have been shoved aside or altered.
If you want to take an example for our gods, one that comes to mind to me is Marchosias. And there are plenty of other female gods that show strength and the like.

One more thing that I wanted to say is, that if you are SERIOUSLY diagnosed with having XY chromosones, that you should take a look at your natal chart (because I don't know if there is anything in there that can indicate irregularities regarding to male/female), and do a working for it if necessary.

And also, though yoga and other spiritual practices, it is said that the body starts to represent the soul more and more.
So just keep up with meditations and such and you'll be fine.

I never stated that women can’t do such and such, but there are clear biological differences between men and women and I am stating I have male biological traits and also “feel” like a man so I identify as a man. For some reason I don’t feel anyone is getting that part I have mentioned. In the original post I made.

lol yeah I noticed, I knew that would happen. Sometimes people here can put words in your mouth without noticing, no offense. I wouldn't take it personally, you explained yourself very well.

 

[Godmode]

Or rather what I mean is that you are medically a woman that is like a man, the medical label, but as for what you really are, you are a man that was born with female genitals.

Because men do have certain biological traits associated with high metabolism and strength, it doesn't mean that women can't do everything a man basically.

 

[Taol]

Labels are a big problem obviously, I wish I knew the answer to this but probably your best bet for getting people to understand you is to just go by "male woman" or "woman that is basically a man". My friend who is like you also has that problem, I think she (last time I talked to her she still went by she) called herself a trans-man but it wasn't quite right for her either. My friend's roommate is also like this, but is a female-man instead of a male-woman. The label isn't as important as people just knowing who you are I suppose but it'd also be sweet if there were just another word for this.

I have male chromosomes and I still have them. This is what mostly the doctors were confused about as why I am the way I . A lot changed as I gotten older. But I will never call myself a woman or male women, I call myself male/man not a, trans man. That’s what I try to educate people but I am lucky to meet individuals men and women who accept me as male and not a trans. Man.

I don’t feel half of the people in this forum understands where I’m coming from, not saying you do but I noticed some of the replies seem to be limited on what they think they know about people like myself. This is why I am thinking about disassociating myself from JoS (no offense) the knowledge is limited.

Most people here do not have or do not know about the situation you're in. It is hard to show compassion or understanding in such a case.

Look, the only way that a difference can be made here, is if you stay, and if people that have similar issues that come across here, at least have someone to talk to that does somewhat understand.

I guess that that is also why they made or organized the LGBT community in the first place.

People are not solitary beings. Together we stand strong and build a lot of new things. Civilisation is not build alone.

You need to find your place in your own time.

I understand that you may hate yourself for some of it (or maybe I expressed that wrong) just as much as the fact that I hate wearing glasses every single day of my life simply because I can't even read a book without them.
I just want to wake up, open my eyes, and see everything clear rather than an unfocussed continuous blur whilst my eyes are trying to get things clear (but obviously can't).

I am not telling you to accept the situation as it is, but I am telling you, to make the best of it.

To consider leaving this place because of your own personal issues that do not quite align.. isn't that a stupid reason?
You came here, dedicated I bet, and felt like you were meant to be here, am I right? So why say that you're leaving?

 

[Godmode]

Labels are a big problem obviously, I wish I knew the answer to this but probably your best bet for getting people to understand you is to just go by "male woman" or "woman that is basically a man". My friend who is like you also has that problem, I think she (last time I talked to her she still went by she) called herself a trans-man but it wasn't quite right for her either. My friend's roommate is also like this, but is a female-man instead of a male-woman. The label isn't as important as people just knowing who you are I suppose but it'd also be sweet if there were just another word for this.

I have male chromosomes and I still have them. This is what mostly the doctors were confused about as why I am the way I . A lot changed as I gotten older. But I will never call myself a woman or male women, I call myself male/man not a, trans man. That’s what I try to educate people but I am lucky to meet individuals men and women who accept me as male and not a trans. Man.

I don’t feel half of the people in this forum understands where I’m coming from, not saying you do but I noticed some of the replies seem to be limited on what they think they know about people like myself. This is why I am thinking about disassociating myself from JoS (no offense) the knowledge is limited.

Most people here do not have or do not know about the situation you're in. It is hard to show compassion or understanding in such a case.

Look, the only way that a difference can be made here, is if you stay, and if people that have similar issues that come across here, at least have someone to talk to that does somewhat understand.

I guess that that is also why they made or organized the LGBT community in the first place.

People are not solitary beings. Together we stand strong and build a lot of new things. Civilisation is not build alone.

You need to find your place in your own time.

I understand that you may hate yourself for some of it (or maybe I expressed that wrong) just as much as the fact that I hate wearing glasses every single day of my life simply because I can't even read a book without them.
I just want to wake up, open my eyes, and see everything clear rather than an unfocussed continuous blur whilst my eyes are trying to get things clear (but obviously can't).

I am not telling you to accept the situation as it is, but I am telling you, to make the best of it.

To consider leaving this place because of your own personal issues that do not quite align.. isn't that a stupid reason?
You came here, dedicated I bet, and felt like you were meant to be here, am I right? So why say that you're leaving?

Oh dear don't dissociate from JoS just because people don't understand... we ARE on the conservative side of some topics, some people just don't like to change their minds or learn new things. Like TSOL said, the vast majority of people have absolutely no experience with this and haven't known someone like you.

I have gotten so pissed off before at being misunderstood on these forums but I'm still here. I mean no offense but there have been problems here in the past where people get their heads bitten off for saying innocent things. I've definitely taken breaks but you don't need to leave just because people don't understand yet. Plus everyone is so busy with Rituals on top of work I feel that a lot of people are just tired and it can take a few pushes to get your point through to them.

And again if you do stay, other people like you will join in on the topic and eventually the problem will disappear once everyone understands.

 

[Godmode]

I am actually probably going to end up being inactive for a month or two because I am really busy and am just having an extremely rough time with being so lonely and busy and having so many problems in life. It happens to the best of us and the only thing you can do is just take a break, so don't take it personally when people don't want to understand. Something else is controlling their mind.

 

[Godmode]

That's not really the best term unless you are exactly 50% partly both, but if you are basically male in more or less every way except for the genitals, and were born with female genitals, androgynous might not be the best term because you are more like 80% male based on body mass. That's what I'm thinking