Faith in Satan? Curses? Magic?

[Hojikq]

Hello everyone Can you tell me how you could believe in the magical part of Spiritual Satanism? To be honest, I don't really believe in corruption, curses, Satan, or the Gods. I don't know, I decided to ask you. Please, if you are ready to give some advice, you can only give adequate ones. I am familiar with the politics of Christians and Muslims. To believe - because THEY decided so, to believe, because IT IS NECESSARY. I just want to find out the truth, that's my goal. To be fair, for me personally, meditations are not proof of everything that is written on your websites. Demons, Satan, Lilith, Hell, Yahweh,.... How can you believe that? Isn't that just mythology? Fairy tale, legend, Christian and pagan myths. Worship the God of the Sun, rivers, and seas. Does it really deserve to be Believed? Can you tell us about your ways? Tell us how you became convinced of your current faith. And how to convince yourself of magic. Thank you, I will be waiting for your answers.

 

[Hojikq]

Hello everyone Can you tell me how you could believe in the magical part of Spiritual Satanism? To be honest, I don't really believe in corruption, curses, Satan, or the Gods. I don't know, I decided to ask you. Please, if you are ready to give some advice, you can only give adequate ones. I am familiar with the politics of Christians and Muslims. To believe - because THEY decided so, to believe, because IT IS NECESSARY. I just want to find out the truth, that's my goal. To be fair, for me personally, meditations are not proof of everything that is written on your websites. Demons, Satan, Lilith, Hell, Yahweh,.... How can you believe that? Isn't that just mythology? Fairy tale, legend, Christian and pagan myths. Worship the God of the Sun, rivers, and seas. Does it really deserve to be Believed? Can you tell us about your ways? Tell us how you became convinced of your current faith. And how to convince yourself of magic. Thank you, I will be waiting for your answers.

In my life, I realized that fanatical faith is just a breeding ground for murders, wars, honor, and false hope. When a Christian tells me that Jesus heals, I tell him to go to an ocular hospital and heal a couple of children. Do you think they agree?))

 

[Hárbarðr]

Hello everyone Can you tell me how you could believe in the magical part of Spiritual Satanism?

No belief required. We have our experiences and we know these things are true by our experiences. Experience > belief here and in every other esoteric path.

I am familiar with the politics of Christians and Muslims. To believe - because THEY decided so, to believe, because IT IS NECESSARY.

It sounds like you are only familiar with Abrahamic religions and you're trying to project what Abrahamic religions do to us. If you read our site and material you'll find we are different. Not just us, but every non-Abrahamic religion and esoteric/occult path is much different and what Abrahamic religions do doesn't apply to them.

Demons, Satan, Lilith, Hell, Yahweh,.... How can you believe that? Isn't that just mythology? Fairy tale, legend, Christian and pagan myths. Worship the God of the Sun, rivers, and seas. Does it really deserve to be Believed?

You have a very typical mainstream view of ancient paths, based on superficial knowledge and the need to feel superior to them. Nobody here says that mythology is to be taken literally. It's real, but most of it was created for initiates in ancient mysteries as allegories for internal things related to their soul development. Common people took it as literal, but they are mostly allegories reserved for the initiates.

For example, there was the number 7 everywhere. 7 daughters of Zeus, 7 temples e.t.c. All these were all allegories for the chakras.

This has all been explained in the site. Take your time to study templeofzeus.org

However, regarding the Abrahamic religions, the jews and xianity stole ancient Pagan allegories and it's second-hand corruption.

Can you tell us about your ways? Tell us how you became convinced of your current faith. And how to convince yourself of magic.

You are placing much emphasis on "faith" and "convincing". Those are concepts of Abrahamic religions and are not relevant here.

As I said, experience and practice are more important.

It's also a thing to consider whether it resonates with you or not. Does it resonate with you? From what you said it seems like it doesn't and it's fine.

For myself and I think also most of us who are here, we feel as if we have already known this for ages and are reclaiming this and even have had experiences with the Gods and our souls before, because we've been with the Gods in past lives.

This isn't necessary though, people who are new as well can come here, but if it doesn't resonate with you you are not forced to accept anything either. You can just find another path more suitable to you. It is more likely that you're not ready yet but maybe at some point in the future you will be.

Because we're not an Abrahamic religion, we don't care about proselytizing or converting those who aren't ready. They will come at their own time.

In my life, I realized that fanatical faith is just a breeding ground for murders, wars, honor, and false hope. When a Christian tells me that Jesus heals, I tell him to go to an ocular hospital and heal a couple of children. Do you think they agree?))

There are xians who receive healing sometimes. It's a trick done by enemy entities they heal one person and so that person tells everyone else about it to keep their blind faith going and to send the "jesus" thoughtform more mental and psychic energy.

But all this is irrelevant here as we don't try to proselytize and it works in an entirely different way.

Mere "faith" is worse than actually being an outsider. You need to practice every day power meditations and other things. It all comes down to practice.

And as I said, all Esoteric/Occult paths are like that. If you had were familiar with esotericism or things like Kundalini Yoga or Taoist practices or even Wicca, Witchcraft and New Age spirituality instead of Abrahamic religions you would be familiar with how we are different. We're similar to those paths, more than any Abrahamic religion.

For example if you tell a Traditional Witch "how do you have faith in magick and witchcraft e.t.c. can you convince me?" she will tell you "Witches are born, honey. If you need to be convinced you aren't one". This is similar to how it works here too.

 

[Hárbarðr]

You are placing much emphasis on "faith" and "convincing". Those are concepts of Abrahamic religions and are not relevant here.

Your view of the whole thing is totally left-brained too. "Beliefs", "convincing", "arguments" e.t.c.

All these are not going to get you anywhere here. The practices here are mostly right-brained. You must pay attention to your inner feelings, your intuitions and any experiences and feelings you had after them. You must look out for signs and synchronicities that mean something to you. Many people are left-brained and don't pay attention to those things so they miss them. That's also the reason why mostly women are interested in these spiritual things: women are more intuitive, psychic right-brained and attuned to subtle things.

 

[Voice of Enki [TG]]

Hello everyone Can you tell me how you could believe in the magical part of Spiritual Satanism? To be honest, I don't really believe in corruption, curses, Satan, or the Gods. I don't know, I decided to ask you. Please, if you are ready to give some advice, you can only give adequate ones. I am familiar with the politics of Christians and Muslims. To believe - because THEY decided so, to believe, because IT IS NECESSARY. I just want to find out the truth, that's my goal. To be fair, for me personally, meditations are not proof of everything that is written on your websites. Demons, Satan, Lilith, Hell, Yahweh,.... How can you believe that? Isn't that just mythology? Fairy tale, legend, Christian and pagan myths. Worship the God of the Sun, rivers, and seas. Does it really deserve to be Believed? Can you tell us about your ways? Tell us how you became convinced of your current faith. And how to convince yourself of magic. Thank you, I will be waiting for your answers.

You say meditations do not "prove" anything to you, however, do you ever stop and think what meditations do, and where they come from?

I can say with 100% certainty, anyone from any background can look at the ToZ meditations right now, and begin practicing them, and experience extremely real effects from them in very little time. I have had people who are completely unspiritual and never had interest in anything spiritual try out meditations from the ToZ, and in just one short session they experienced energies and the effects. Therefore, the meditations are evident, and the Path proves itself.

ToZ is extremely deep, the deeper parts of the mysteries are indeed difficult to understand, but everything builds upon itself step by step. Therefore, the full extend of the Path gets revealed on its own, through the practice. It unfolds like a flower being watered and growing, unfolding the petals one by one, until a beautiful thousand petalled flower.

Things like the Myths, they are allegory, not literal, you come to understand that as you meditate upon Gods, and live life, partake in existence while also progressing on the Path through meditation and learning. See in history where Meditations originated, and where This Path originated. The Gods are credited by all the Ancients as the progenitors and the teachers of the Path, who taught humans how to advance their souls through spiritual practice, and elevate themselves to the Godhead through these practices and the knowledge taught by Them. The Gods make themselves known and evident to anyone who partakes in Their mysteries. They exist, anyone can speak to Them and anyone can verify for themselves as they progress through the Path of Zevism.

Of course I can believe Gods and the Afterlife, when I can experience these very clearly, as easily as seeing the world around me with my naked eyes. These are just as real as the keyboard I use to type, or as the food I eat for breakfast, or as the clothes I wear, or as my own material body by which I exist in this incarnation. As I see the people walk around me, and the world around me, I too see the Gods and the higher realms in existence. These are right there all around us. You partake in them unknowingly. When you meditate and empower your Soul, you become aware of the unknown and unseen part of reality which exists all around you.

For most of us, the belief starts with an interest in anything beyond the known and material, from experiences we have had that made us question the world as we know it.
For example, experiences with the occult or the spiritual, questions regarding experiences that current science does not have satisfactory answers to, which makes one seek answers, often going through many different paths before arriving here on the Truth.

In my own case, I have had many occult experiences, which I know to be completely true, as the experiences were direct and had real manifestation. I have had these since I was very young, my whole life. It took a long time to finally arrive at the ToZ, over a decade of seeking answers and dabbling in many different things which were never satisfactory.
For many of us, we already intrinsically know and understand there is more to reality than the seen world and the world as science tells us. We know intrinsically that we have the Soul, 6th senses, that reincarnation happens and is completely real, and that there is a far greater reality behind the material that is seen with the naked eye.

It isn't necessary to believe in anything. The reality of the Path becomes self evident when practiced over time, where it becomes a fact through experience. For example, when you do a runic working and you see real manifestation in your life, you know that it works and that it is real. At that point, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks or what science thinks, because the reality is what it is. It proves itself to you through the existence of this Path. Science will eventually be able to accept and understand and even explain how these can work, but current science is nowhere near close enough to Satya to be able to do so.

The Earth is round as we all know, and this doesn't change no matter what anyone thinks or wants it to be, reality is what it is. The spiritual reality and reality of the Path of Zevism is how it is, just as real as the roundness of the Earth, and it doesn't really matter what you or anyone else thinks or says, these are Satya, all part of the reality we partake in.
Scepticism and the like is meaningless. For example, if I want to heal someone, they will be healed, whether they believe I can do it or not. If I go to heal someone, they will certainly be healed, no matter what they believe, because the powers of healing are real. Same if I curse someone. No matter what anyone thinks, no matter how sceptic, if I curse someone, they will feel and experience it in their lives regardless of what they believe or think, no matter how much they wish to reject this reality, and no matter what any science has to say about it.

Because the Powers of the Soul are real.

Through the practice of the Spiritual path of ToZ, you get to understand this for yourself.

 

[Hárbarðr]

In my life, I realized that fanatical faith is just a breeding ground for murders, wars, honor, and false hope.

There are 2 beliefs that cause murders and wars:

1)Believing your religion's dogma is the only truth there is and everyone who disagrees is a "heretic" and they must either convert or be killed.
2)Sacrificing the present for the future. Believing the end justifies the means.

The first one is something only Abrahamic religions believe. Before xianity came to Europe, there were no wars in the name of religion. However when xianity came, not only did xians destroy Pagan temples and killed Pagan people, they also killed other xians because they disagreed with them in one minor doctrine, like the trinity but agreed with them on everything else. They called them "heretics" and they burned them and tortured them. They treated those "heretics" the same or even worse than they treated Pagans. Then, many Mayan codices which had valuable esoteric knowledge were burned by the xian conquistadors because they saw them as "demonic". Much important esoteric/occult knowledge has been lost because of xianity.

No Pagan or non-Abrahamic religion has this mentality. No hindu or buddhist will ever tell you "accept Shiva/the Buddhist teachings or else you'll burn in hell!" No Shintoist, Sikh, or anyone else. We in this forum don't believe that either. Only xians and muslims do. That's why they are the cause of most wars and misery in human history.

So if you are against those hoaxes and hate them, try not to lump us or anyone else with them, as we oppose them as much as you do. You are actually on our side. Even if you don't agree with our concepts, you are still working together with us to get rid of them.

 

[HadesWithin666]

I mean TG VOE summoned everything perfectly, nothing really need more to add.

Here we do not simply "belive" as the false systems do, here we literally experience the spirituality at all of its highs and understand it as well.

 

[nema]

Hello everyone Can you tell me how you could believe in the magical part of Spiritual Satanism? To be honest, I don't really believe in corruption, curses, Satan, or the Gods. I don't know, I decided to ask you. Please, if you are ready to give some advice, you can only give adequate ones. I am familiar with the politics of Christians and Muslims. To believe - because THEY decided so, to believe, because IT IS NECESSARY. I just want to find out the truth, that's my goal. To be fair, for me personally, meditations are not proof of everything that is written on your websites. Demons, Satan, Lilith, Hell, Yahweh,.... How can you believe that? Isn't that just mythology? Fairy tale, legend, Christian and pagan myths. Worship the God of the Sun, rivers, and seas. Does it really deserve to be Believed? Can you tell us about your ways? Tell us how you became convinced of your current faith. And how to convince yourself of magic. Thank you, I will be waiting for your answers.

You're simply being brainwashed to think magic is silly. Ask yourself why do the richest people in the world dress up like wizards at night.. and they are not fools. They are way weirder than us though basically the governments are shutting down the right hemisphere of the human brain (as well as so many other things) wich Is the part involved in magical workings. Remember when you were a child and life felt like some kind of dream? That's still reality. You just don't see It anymore..

 

[Hárbarðr]

Remember when you were a child and life felt like some kind of dream? That's still reality. You just don't see It anymore..

Children remember past lives (Ian Stevenson has done a lot of research and confirmed childrens' past life stories with physical evidence), have imaginary friends/teachers (guardians/guides who communicate with them astrally) and communicate with animals. But their parents tell them those things are ridiculous, silly and not fitting for them, so they shut these abilities down. Their parents are indoctrinated to suppress them and sadly, they are passing this indoctrination down to them.

 

[Hojikq]

You're simply being brainwashed to think magic is silly. Ask yourself why do the richest people in the world dress up like wizards at night.. and they are not fools. They are way weirder than us though basically the governments are shutting down the right hemisphere of the human brain (as well as so many other things) wich Is the part involved in magical workings. Remember when you were a child and life felt like some kind of dream? That's still reality. You just don't see It anymore..

I'm sorry, but you mentioned only examples of unproven conspiracy theory. With such success, our world is ruled by the masses, and the earth is round.

 

[Hojikq]

You say meditations do not "prove" anything to you, however, do you ever stop and think what meditations do, and where they come from?

I can say with 100% certainty, anyone from any background can look at the ToZ meditations right now, and begin practicing them, and experience extremely real effects from them in very little time. I have had people who are completely unspiritual and never had interest in anything spiritual try out meditations from the ToZ, and in just one short session they experienced energies and the effects. Therefore, the meditations are evident, and the Path proves itself.

ToZ is extremely deep, the deeper parts of the mysteries are indeed difficult to understand, but everything builds upon itself step by step. Therefore, the full extend of the Path gets revealed on its own, through the practice. It unfolds like a flower being watered and growing, unfolding the petals one by one, until a beautiful thousand petalled flower.

Things like the Myths, they are allegory, not literal, you come to understand that as you meditate upon Gods, and live life, partake in existence while also progressing on the Path through meditation and learning. See in history where Meditations originated, and where This Path originated. The Gods are credited by all the Ancients as the progenitors and the teachers of the Path, who taught humans how to advance their souls through spiritual practice, and elevate themselves to the Godhead through these practices and the knowledge taught by Them. The Gods make themselves known and evident to anyone who partakes in Their mysteries. They exist, anyone can speak to Them and anyone can verify for themselves as they progress through the Path of Zevism.

Of course I can believe Gods and the Afterlife, when I can experience these very clearly, as easily as seeing the world around me with my naked eyes. These are just as real as the keyboard I use to type, or as the food I eat for breakfast, or as the clothes I wear, or as my own material body by which I exist in this incarnation. As I see the people walk around me, and the world around me, I too see the Gods and the higher realms in existence. These are right there all around us. You partake in them unknowingly. When you meditate and empower your Soul, you become aware of the unknown and unseen part of reality which exists all around you.

For most of us, the belief starts with an interest in anything beyond the known and material, from experiences we have had that made us question the world as we know it.
For example, experiences with the occult or the spiritual, questions regarding experiences that current science does not have satisfactory answers to, which makes one seek answers, often going through many different paths before arriving here on the Truth.

In my own case, I have had many occult experiences, which I know to be completely true, as the experiences were direct and had real manifestation. I have had these since I was very young, my whole life. It took a long time to finally arrive at the ToZ, over a decade of seeking answers and dabbling in many different things which were never satisfactory.
For many of us, we already intrinsically know and understand there is more to reality than the seen world and the world as science tells us. We know intrinsically that we have the Soul, 6th senses, that reincarnation happens and is completely real, and that there is a far greater reality behind the material that is seen with the naked eye.

It isn't necessary to believe in anything. The reality of the Path becomes self evident when practiced over time, where it becomes a fact through experience. For example, when you do a runic working and you see real manifestation in your life, you know that it works and that it is real. At that point, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks or what science thinks, because the reality is what it is. It proves itself to you through the existence of this Path. Science will eventually be able to accept and understand and even explain how these can work, but current science is nowhere near close enough to Satya to be able to do so.

The Earth is round as we all know, and this doesn't change no matter what anyone thinks or wants it to be, reality is what it is. The spiritual reality and reality of the Path of Zevism is how it is, just as real as the roundness of the Earth, and it doesn't really matter what you or anyone else thinks or says, these are Satya, all part of the reality we partake in.
Scepticism and the like is meaningless. For example, if I want to heal someone, they will be healed, whether they believe I can do it or not. If I go to heal someone, they will certainly be healed, no matter what they believe, because the powers of healing are real. Same if I curse someone. No matter what anyone thinks, no matter how sceptic, if I curse someone, they will feel and experience it in their lives regardless of what they believe or think, no matter how much they wish to reject this reality, and no matter what any science has to say about it.

Because the Powers of the Soul are real.

Through the practice of the Spiritual path of ToZ, you get to understand this for yourself.

Thanks for the detailed answer. I would like to clarify your last words. You're talking about healing, spoiling. To heal is to cure a disease? That is, can you help a person grow an arm or a leg? I'm just wondering, does magic only cure headaches? (Which is also successfully treated with calcium tablets if desired) or is it something more serious? Let's say when I talked with Christian believers, they said that Jesus healed all people, took away their illnesses and we are healthy, but we just have to live and believe in it. So, all these healings are bullshit, which is built on basic knowledge of the placebo effect. It's so bitter for some people. I've always felt sorry for those who have cancer, mom, dad, grandfather or grandmother. They believe in a finished creature in heaven, seeking to be healed, but in the end they get deception, because this is God's providence. It's disgusting. How does this work in your faith?

 

[Hojikq]

No belief required. We have our experiences and we know these things are true by our experiences. Experience > belief here and in every other esoteric path.



It sounds like you are only familiar with Abrahamic religions and you're trying to project what Abrahamic religions do to us. If you read our site and material you'll find we are different. Not just us, but every non-Abrahamic religion and esoteric/occult path is much different and what Abrahamic religions do doesn't apply to them.



You have a very typical mainstream view of ancient paths, based on superficial knowledge and the need to feel superior to them. Nobody here says that mythology is to be taken literally. It's real, but most of it was created for initiates in ancient mysteries as allegories for internal things related to their soul development. Common people took it as literal, but they are mostly allegories reserved for the initiates.

For example, there was the number 7 everywhere. 7 daughters of Zeus, 7 temples e.t.c. All these were all allegories for the chakras.

This has all been explained in the site. Take your time to study templeofzeus.org

However, regarding the Abrahamic religions, the jews and xianity stole ancient Pagan allegories and it's second-hand corruption.



You are placing much emphasis on "faith" and "convincing". Those are concepts of Abrahamic religions and are not relevant here.

As I said, experience and practice are more important.

It's also a thing to consider whether it resonates with you or not. Does it resonate with you? From what you said it seems like it doesn't and it's fine.

For myself and I think also most of us who are here, we feel as if we have already known this for ages and are reclaiming this and even have had experiences with the Gods and our souls before, because we've been with the Gods in past lives.

This isn't necessary though, people who are new as well can come here, but if it doesn't resonate with you you are not forced to accept anything either. You can just find another path more suitable to you. It is more likely that you're not ready yet but maybe at some point in the future you will be.

Because we're not an Abrahamic religion, we don't care about proselytizing or converting those who aren't ready. They will come at their own time.



There are xians who receive healing sometimes. It's a trick done by enemy entities they heal one person and so that person tells everyone else about it to keep their blind faith going and to send the "jesus" thoughtform more mental and psychic energy.

But all this is irrelevant here as we don't try to proselytize and it works in an entirely different way.

Mere "faith" is worse than actually being an outsider. You need to practice every day power meditations and other things. It all comes down to practice.

And as I said, all Esoteric/Occult paths are like that. If you had were familiar with esotericism or things like Kundalini Yoga or Taoist practices or even Wicca, Witchcraft and New Age spirituality instead of Abrahamic religions you would be familiar with how we are different. We're similar to those paths, more than any Abrahamic religion.

For example if you tell a Traditional Witch "how do you have faith in magick and witchcraft e.t.c. can you convince me?" she will tell you "Witches are born, honey. If you need to be convinced you aren't one". This is similar to how it works here too.

Beliefs depend on education and suggestion, which is invested in our society. For you, meditation is magic, for some it is oriental medicine. Everything is relative. Let's get down to practice. Everyone here is talking about real experience. But what is the experience like? Is someone talking to you in your head? Do you feel the energy? I've tried some of the meditations on your list. They are quite interesting to me. I was experiencing meditation on the third eye. Yes, I felt the pain. I gave this meditation to several other people, but they didn't feel any pain, so I can't say that it's objective in my case. Someone told me that anyone can even talk to the Gods. I am always surprised with such answers, and Christians answer me the same way. "TALK TO JESUS THROUGH SIGNS ON THE STREET OR IN THE BIBLE" Unfortunately, Jesus' power ends with car numbers. All this is very sad for someone who wants facts, not blind faith. I have no idea what will happen to me here. I'll keep trying, whether it works out or not, the devil knows, we'll find out.

 

[Hojikq]

I wonder what kind of esotericism are we talking about? About those who can't go to the bathroom during the ritual? Is every squeak in the house a sign of the gods? I've talked to people like that. I don't recommend it. What types of esotericism are we talking about? Maybe about those who earn money by fortune-telling? Or those who conduct broadcasts in Tiktok with wax in their teeth?

 

[Demonic Tech]

If I have to tell you in a very, VERY, down to Earth way...
You just try a meditation, like inspiring energy -> You feel it -> "Holy shit this is real"
That's pretty much it (at the start)
No blind belief requred, pure experiences

 

[nema]

I'm sorry, but you mentioned only examples of unproven conspiracy theory. With such success, our world is ruled by the masses, and the earth is round.

"Our world is ruled by the masses" is one of the funniest statements i heard this year. No offense.
Brother.. you are a blind man asking for us to make you see. You don't want to meditate, because you want us to "prove" its effects by writing something here that will somehow make you believe. If we try, you just make fun of what we said. Do you see the problem here?

 

[Blitzkreig [TG]]

Thanks for the detailed answer. I would like to clarify your last words. You're talking about healing, spoiling. To heal is to cure a disease? That is, can you help a person grow an arm or a leg? I'm just wondering, does magic only cure headaches? (Which is also successfully treated with calcium tablets if desired) or is it something more serious? Let's say when I talked with Christian believers, they said that Jesus healed all people, took away their illnesses and we are healthy, but we just have to live and believe in it. So, all these healings are bullshit, which is built on basic knowledge of the placebo effect. It's so bitter for some people. I've always felt sorry for those who have cancer, mom, dad, grandfather or grandmother. They believe in a finished creature in heaven, seeking to be healed, but in the end they get deception, because this is God's providence. It's disgusting. How does this work in your faith?

Healthy criticism is solved through experimentation. Even calcium tablets were met with criticism before research was done for their benefits.

Continue what you felt with your testing of the meditations, because what is most important is the subjective results, not what others felt. This is due to the sensitive nature of magic and energy manipulation, which is in an atrophied state within humanity.

People lose hope even with physical exercise, despite that they can see the muscles moving and see many successful cases around them. Meditation is harder because the awareness and social support is not there.

These people who you reference, like Tiktok magicians, or Christians, are not us; please don't group their behavior with Zevism. They do not follow Zeus, nor follow in the footsteps of truly advanced Clergy members.

Although some explanations may help, the main source of your faith must come from your own practice of the beginner meditations. Try raising your energy and then doing the directing energy meditation, as this combination is one of the best for getting immediate feedback. Noticing the sensations of your third eye is also a good sign and should fuel further testing.

 

[Demonic Tech]

Some experiences are more irrefutable than others, after meditating for a while, I noticed I could begin to see my own aura.
Christians definitely do not "gain powers" after praying to their impaled cadaver X times.

So, sum several experiences, like actually receiving what you asked for when asking the Gods (typically by Them giving you the means), and there you have our certainty in what we do.

But you know what? I'll bite. I know what it feels like to have an extremely left-sided brain that wants hard-on facts.
Let's hypothesize, for a second, that it is all bogus.
This then "beliefs" what do propel us to do?
You should notice that everything about the Temple of Zeus is about self-improvement, mentally, spiritually, and also physically.
Every teaching of Zevism, even if looked from an atheist perspective, is undeniably there for the betterment of the people, so even IF it was bogus, it would still be a worthy Path to walk, the Path that strives and manages to make people better and wiser.
It's kind of all our point, to become better, to become Gods.

And you notice this mainly in our ToZ Guardians, just look at this thread.
The ToZ Guardians are members who advanced in the Path and received recognition and the appropriate position and responsibilities for it.
They're the users with the [TG] at the end of their username.
You already, just by looking at this thread, can notice how wiser they are than the average user.

So, Zevism simply works, regardless of what you don't feel like believing.

 

[Hárbarðr]

I don't recommend it. What types of esotericism are we talking about? Maybe about those who earn money by fortune-telling? Or those who conduct broadcasts in Tiktok with wax in their teeth?

When I refer to esotericism I mostly mean the esoteric worldview and philosophy. Not stupid tricks that people do.

The Abrahamic worldview is this: there is a male personal god who created everything controls everything. He rewards and punishes people based on their "faith" in him and/or a set of rules that you must follow. Nothing comes from you, but everything happens to you because "god" allows it. There are some normal, common things he gets offended by so you have to live in fear of not commiting those things because this "god" monitors everything in your life in order to find what you do wrong so he can punish you. And if you do something bad or not have enough faith, you will be tortured forever. Practicing magick or yoga or empowering yoru chakras or almost everything that we do here is "evil" and "demonic" and will send you straight to "hell". You live only once and everything happens in a linear way, from the world history and cosmology to your own life and death.

So within this framework "faith" makes sense.

Now here's the esoteric worldview, which is vastly different: The world is full of forces, energies, vibrations that you can use to your advantage. There are higher beings like the Gods as well as lower beings. There isn't any personal god who created everything, but an impersonal force called the universal mind, the all or any other different names. This is a force you can tap into, but not a god who punishes or cares at all about you. Everything is connected, everything consists of levels, and the metaphysical structure of the universe mirrors the structure of the human self. Just like there's an astral plane, humans have an astral body, a mental plane corresponding to the mental body e.t.c. There are laws, such as "as above so below" where the inside mirrors the outside and each of the planets correspond to specific chakras, stones, crystals, animals, plants, incense e.t.c. There is the law of karma, the law of balance e.t.c. Everything happens in cycles as we can see in nature the cycle of seasons and in the humans as reincarnation.

Everyone who belongs to an esoteric path like Wicca, Aleister Crowley's Thelema or even New Age spirituality or just practices magick ascribes to this worldview either partially or fully. It explains why we do what we do and why everything works this way.

You asked about doubts regarding the magickal part so it's relevant here as trying to practice magick while having the Abrahamic or the Atheistic/materialistic worldview makes everything seem either demonic and evil or implausible unscientific nonsense.

 

[Hojikq]

When I refer to esotericism I mostly mean the esoteric worldview and philosophy. Not stupid tricks that people do.

The Abrahamic worldview is this: there is a male personal god who created everything controls everything. He rewards and punishes people based on their "faith" in him and/or a set of rules that you must follow. Nothing comes from you, but everything happens to you because "god" allows it. There are some normal, common things he gets offended by so you have to live in fear of not commiting those things because this "god" monitors everything in your life in order to find what you do wrong so he can punish you. And if you do something bad or not have enough faith, you will be tortured forever. Practicing magick or yoga or empowering yoru chakras or almost everything that we do here is "evil" and "demonic" and will send you straight to "hell". You live only once and everything happens in a linear way, from the world history and cosmology to your own life and death.

So within this framework "faith" makes sense.

Now here's the esoteric worldview, which is vastly different: The world is full of forces, energies, vibrations that you can use to your advantage. There are higher beings like the Gods as well as lower beings. There isn't any personal god who created everything, but an impersonal force called the universal mind, the all or any other different names. This is a force you can tap into, but not a god who punishes or cares at all about you. Everything is connected, everything consists of levels, and the metaphysical structure of the universe mirrors the structure of the human self. Just like there's an astral plane, humans have an astral body, a mental plane corresponding to the mental body e.t.c. There are laws, such as "as above so below" where the inside mirrors the outside and each of the planets correspond to specific chakras, stones, crystals, animals, plants, incense e.t.c. There is the law of karma, the law of balance e.t.c. Everything happens in cycles as we can see in nature the cycle of seasons and in the humans as reincarnation.

Everyone who belongs to an esoteric path like Wicca, Aleister Crowley's Thelema or even New Age spirituality or just practices magick ascribes to this worldview either partially or fully. It explains why we do what we do and why everything works this way.

You asked about doubts regarding the magickal part so it's relevant here as trying to practice magick while having the Abrahamic or the Atheistic/materialistic worldview makes everything seem either demonic and evil or implausible unscientific nonsense.

What about the rules? I've read the commandments of Satan here. Aren't these rules too? About friendship in particular

 

[Hojikq]

"Our world is ruled by the masses" is one of the funniest statements i heard this year. No offense.
Brother.. you are a blind man asking for us to make you see. You don't want to meditate, because you want us to "prove" its effects by writing something here that will somehow make you believe. If we try, you just make fun of what we said. Do you see the problem here?

Honestly, I don't really care. Can you stop touting your personal ego by replying to my messages? If you want to sound cool, please respond to other people. I do not need your corrections of my phrases.

 

[Demonic Tech]

What about the rules? I've read the commandments of Satan here. Aren't these rules too? About friendship in particular

What you're referring in the Al Jilwah is basically Satan telling the Yezidi what to do to survive, given their peculiar condition in living amidst the savages of islam who would not flinch to slaughter them. It was and still is risky for any of them to engage in friendship with a muslim, even if the singular muslim they may befriend is not a monster, there is risk of knowledge of them to spread among other muslims and reach the ears of fanatics. The Yezidi are called "Devil Worshippers" by them, so you can imagine what would happen if enough of them are roused to act.

 

[WoadWarrior]

To be totally honest after a certain point you just receive so much evidence that it is no longer a matter of faith, the difficult part is you have to take it on faith that I and the people like me aren't lying or delusional, which to be fair is a huge ask for anyone "looking in"

My advice is this, do the full opening the chakra section on the meditation page and then when your done with that keep doing foundation meditation until you easily and truly feel energy and then do a Ritual, I would suggest Apollo/Azazel as His energy is very noticeable, make sure to follow all the steps of the Ritual and meditate on His sigil at the end and then your doubts will be gone, you will feel energy far greater than your own, far more beautiful than your own and you will know you made contact with a divine force.

It's not really a matter of belief for many of us, we pray and we get replies, we do a working and it works, but much like Plato's cave its something you have to actually experience to know, its useless describing the light to those that have never seen it, whats required is to step out from the darkness and see with ones own eyes. After all how would you describe lets say the colour blue to somebody without sight? Its not possible you can only describe things that are blue as it needs to be experienced to be known.

Put it like this, lets say you power meditate for 1 hour a day for lets say 3 months, worst case scenario you become more mindful, less stressed and more focused, best case scenario you tap into literal divine power, I suppose my point is its worth at least trying to explore this path as worst case scenario you lose literally nothing.

Skepticism is fine btw, many of us were skeptics coming in, but this is not really something we can explain, its something that needs to be experienced we can help you experience that but we cannot explain why we "believe" because we dont really "believe" we KNOW, true faith comes from knowledge not wishful thinking.

I hope that helps.