Satan … magic

[Hojikq]

Hello everyone!, as Pushkin wrote, "My friends! Hello, dear guests!" The Russian classics are wonderful. Well, I have an interesting question. I take it that in order to be spiritual, you don't even have to believe in Satan? There are many different esoteric beliefs in our world. They are not related to hatred of Jews, communism or Christianity, as in your case. (I have nothing against it, I don't care) However, such people can cast spells, see auras, and other magical things. They didn't do your initiation ritual. It turns out, magic≠Satan? Is magic a universal force available to anyone who develops? It's just that at first I had the feeling that magic is only for those who profess Satan as their god.

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[Henu the Great]

Hello everyone!, as Pushkin wrote, "My friends! Hello, dear guests!" The Russian classics are wonderful. Well, I have an interesting question. I take it that in order to be spiritual, you don't even have to believe in Satan? There are many different esoteric beliefs in our world. They are not related to hatred of Jews, communism or Christianity, as in your case. (I have nothing against it, I don't care) However, such people can cast spells, see auras, and other magical things. They didn't do your initiation ritual. It turns out, magic≠Satan? Is magic a universal force available to anyone who develops? It's just that at first I had the feeling that magic is only for those who profess Satan as their god.

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Those who work directly under the guidance of Gods are always a priority to them and have the highest potential to unfold as they grow. The views ToZ professes align with God's views, but you are correct; not fully abiding by these views does not invalidate their efforts or existence. It should be noted that the tools that are available for us, including magick, are directly from the Gods. It would be silly not to recognize their helping hand.

 

[shazam]

Hello everyone!, as Pushkin wrote, "My friends! Hello, dear guests!" The Russian classics are wonderful. Well, I have an interesting question. I take it that in order to be spiritual, you don't even have to believe in Satan? There are many different esoteric beliefs in our world. They are not related to hatred of Jews, communism or Christianity, as in your case. (I have nothing against it, I don't care) However, such people can cast spells, see auras, and other magical things. They didn't do your initiation ritual. It turns out, magic≠Satan? Is magic a universal force available to anyone who develops? It's just that at first I had the feeling that magic is only for those who profess Satan as their god.

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As I understand it, magic is intentional energy and everyone can access it. However, first and foremost, the ritual of initiation is the formality that is made concrete with Zeus and the Gods, connecting deeply with them. They give us a place under their wings and their eternal protection, and we advance under their yoke in the safest way and in tune with them. In addition, the Gods grant us knowledge directly (see the forum and official ToZ websites), and the practices handled in ToZ are 100% safe for Zeus initiates. Other spiritual people (who are not with the Gods) who practice magic are often in great danger, as they are often deceived and used by malicious entities.

Hail Satya!, Hail Zeus!, long live the gods, may Satya enlighten us on the path of truth! Blessed are they all.

 

[Demonic Tech]

It's like we, the Temple of Zeus, are, metaphorically, the best gym in the world, built under the direct guidance of the "inventors of gyms".
This doesn't mean there can't exist other gyms, some almost as good as us, some others entirely bogus, some in between.
In this metaphor, christianity is basically a building with the front of a gym but then you enter and it's actually a McDonald's.
So yeah, of course someone can exercise at another gym, or even exercise at home on their own, but it's: 1) riskier as they could end up in a shitty gym or even a McDonald's, 2) generally worse as the other gyms weren't built directly under the "inventors of gyms" like the ToZ gym.

We don't claim exclusiveness to magick. It should've been pretty obvious as you see we talk all the time about "enemy magick".
If we believed magick was our exclusive, it wouldn't make any sense to believe that there is something like "enemy magick" at all.

 

[Hárbarðr]

Is magic a universal force available to anyone who develops? It's just that at first I had the feeling that magic is only for those who profess Satan as their god.

Most people practice magick in one form or another, they just do it unconsciously. For example, many people think about how stupid and unlovable they are, how everyone hates them and they visualize situations where they are abused or hurt by others and keep playing such mental movies in their mind until they manifest into reality. That's magick used in an unconscious and self-destructive way, but it's still magick.

But even people who do use magick consciously don't realize it. For example, xians who pray and it manifests, they use the powers of their minds but they externalize it to their "god". New agers who practice "manifesting" using the law of attraction also use magick, and a very popular, but watered down form. The book "The secret" has sold like 30 million copies and it's about this form of magick.

Magick is simply using the power of your mind. The difference between us Zevist and mainstream new agers is that we use it consciously, we study inner workings and learn how to maximize its effects using astrological timing, runes, vibrations e.t.c. so it becomes more effective. We are also taught more advanced forms.

BTW, we don't use the name Satan any more (we call him Zeus, as we try to get rid of all Judeo-Christian influence and return to our Pagan roots), and it's called "magick" to distinguish it from "magic" which is a just illusion party tricks, like making coins disappear. The name comes from the 16th century spelling and was popularized by Aleister Crowley.

 

[Hojikq]

Most people practice magick in one form or another, they just do it unconsciously. For example, many people think about how stupid and unlovable they are, how everyone hates them and they visualize situations where they are abused or hurt by others and keep playing such mental movies in their mind until they manifest into reality. That's magick used in an unconscious and self-destructive way, but it's still magick.

But even people who do use magick consciously don't realize it. For example, xians who pray and it manifests, they use the powers of their minds but they externalize it to their "god". New agers who practice "manifesting" using the law of attraction also use magick, and a very popular, but watered down form. The book "The secret" has sold like 30 million copies and it's about this form of magick.

Magick is simply using the power of your mind. The difference between us Zevist and mainstream new agers is that we use it consciously, we study inner workings and learn how to maximize its effects using astrological timing, runes, vibrations e.t.c. so it becomes more effective. We are also taught more advanced forms.

BTW, we don't use the name Satan any more (we call him Zeus, as we try to get rid of all Judeo-Christian influence and return to our Pagan roots), and it's called "magick" to distinguish it from "magic" which is a just illusion party tricks, like making coins disappear. The name comes from the 16th century spelling and was popularized by Aleister Crowley.

What? Don't use the name Satan? But what about your books: "the name of SATAN is VERY ANCIENT, older than Christianity"?

 

[shazam]

What? Don't use the name Satan? But what about your books: "the name of SATAN is VERY ANCIENT, older than Christianity"?

It is not that the name of Satan is not used, but that now the temple has evolved to a point where we and the Gods are priority, where the spiritual and physical advancement is priority, the enemy moves to another plane at this time, to acquire this form (ToZ) is achieved so to speak an “independence” of the garbage of Abrahamic beliefs, where we do not present ourselves as Satanists but as Zevists, that gives rise to more long-term plans, or at least that's how I see it! By the way, I work with the name “Satan”, I connect a lot with him, and in spite of being a very attacked name, there is the ritual of absolutism for him!

(most of these questions are already answered! it's just a matter of reading the forum and the official sites, that should clear up most of your doubts, I know it's a lot to read but you can go in parts and especially use the forum search engine (I recommend using keywords, rather than literally a question, so you can find more information), also read the HP sermons!)

Hail Zeus, Hail Satya! I hope you can be guided by Satya!

 

[Demonic Tech]

What? Don't use the name Satan? But what about your books: "the name of SATAN is VERY ANCIENT, older than Christianity"?

It's explained a bit poorly (we're going through an entire refactor of the website as of now and all will get better), basically, the origins of the name Satan predate Christianity, as it is based on the concept of Satya, Eternal Truth. Also SATANAMA, and other things. The important part is the root, SAT.

We can still use Satan actually, nobody is forbidding it, but since that name is always linked to poor reputation in people's heads, and since it just makes more sense to call Him Zeus anyway as that's what the Ancient Greeks (who we want to trace most) called Him, most of us are simply calling Him Zeus now, or combinations, like Zeus-Satya.

 

[ModernMage]

It's like we, the Temple of Zeus, are, metaphorically, the best gym in the world, built under the direct guidance of the "inventors of gyms".
This doesn't mean there can't exist other gyms, some almost as good as us, some others entirely bogus, some in between.
In this metaphor, christianity is basically a building with the front of a gym but then you enter and it's actually a McDonald's.
So yeah, of course someone can exercise at another gym, or even exercise at home on their own, but it's: 1) riskier as they could end up in a shitty gym or even a McDonald's, 2) generally worse as the other gyms weren't built directly under the "inventors of gyms" like the ToZ gym.

We don't claim exclusiveness to magick. It should've been pretty obvious as you see we talk all the time about "enemy magick".
If we believed magick was our exclusive, it wouldn't make any sense to believe that there is something like "enemy magick" at all.

This metaphor ishilarious because the gods created the concept of gymnasium.

 

[ModernMage]

What? Don't use the name Satan? But what about your books: "the name of SATAN is VERY ANCIENT, older than Christianity"?

Satan is a misrepresented term the Jews use to slander our God. Meaning adversary or devil in their language. The original SaTaNaMa/SatNam is a mantra to awaken and raise the Kundalini. Zeus adopted the name of the fallen for the truly wise and gifted to still reach him.

 

[Hárbarðr]

What? Don't use the name Satan? But what about your books: "the name of SATAN is VERY ANCIENT, older than Christianity"?

Yes, it's origins are very ancient, it's based on Sanskrit and comes from words like Satya, SaTaNaMa, it's also Greek anagram. Yet no ancient people referred to a one of their Gods by the name Satan.

You will notice the site is called Temple of Zeus now. It used to be called Joy of Satan, all references to "Satan" replaced with Satya or Zeus or other Gods like Thoth and the logo was changed from the baphomet to the head of Zeus.

 

[The Alchemist7 [TG]]

Yes, it's origins are very ancient, it's based on Sanskrit and comes from words like Satya, SaTaNaMa, it's also Greek anagram. Yet no ancient people referred to a one of their Gods by the name Satan.

You will notice the site is called Temple of Zeus now. It used to be called Joy of Satan, all references to "Satan" replaced with Satya or Zeus or other Gods like Thoth and the logo was changed from the baphomet to the head of Zeus.

The reasons why we had decided to rename from Joy of Satan/as to Temple of Zeus are a lot bigger than simply replacing the name Satan, which is also inaccurate for the most part. Most instances where Satan appear on ToZ are there and most likely they will stay there. We must show people that Temple of Zeus is not about worshiping the "antagonist" of the pseuso-god that the jews have invented, and that Temple of Zeus has nothing to do with any fabrications the jews said about Satan - Zeus and the Gods, whose religions and cultures date back thousands and thousands of years before any judeo-christianity plagued the Earth.

It's strange that the majority of information and knowledge people widely accept today about the history of humanity date back from the inception of Christianity and from during the late periods of the Roman Empire, a period of time that is like the tip of the iceberg in the entire history of Humanity. Most people have no clue what was like before that and it causes a lot of confusion.