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Egon said:
Another question, how should one deal with inflation? For instance a person is willing to send $ 50 but because of their country's situation the JoS will only get $ 10 worth in dollars out of it, and this feels demoralizing that the person is spending a lot of money and that's not much worth for the JoS, how should one proceed?

I will address these very serious concerns both for survival reasons of members and for their evolution in that regard. Europe is also going very low on this and this is a dangerous situation.

If one is in these situations, one really needs to be careful and mind how they act with money. For example, I am well aware, our Brothers and Sisters from Turkey have intense problems right now, or from Sri Lanka.

Clearly, one in these situations should HOLD BACK and do the best for their survival, while the rest of us who have the ability to do something now do it now, and vice versa.
 
EasternFireLion666 said:
Maybe I did not fully understand the Trump part so I guess you are right here. As for the Yehubor, soylent, etc parts. IDK... Usually when I need something I say, "I am in urgent need of this because ..." and not "give me 5$ or you are a Yehubor idiot". But whatever, we have our reasons to express ourselves the way we do. Goes for me as well.
To be honest the ask ritual is in my mind. Maybe I am a bit skeptical since I did try to reach Demons and did not really succeed for ways to quicker and better get people to the forums. That's it! I never ask for my personal developments or free gibs. I don't give a single fuck about myself or my life length or so since it is irrelevant if we do not reach mass awareness of the forums ASAP. From what I see if the 2023-2025 range does not manifest something for us, it's too late for anything.
All personal development is for nothing if we are going to end up in a world gulag in 2-3 years.

This is definitely an overly pessimistic mindset, where you are basically forgetting what Gentiles and Satanists have accomplished, and will accomplish, against the enemy. Despite of some turmoil, we will not ever face a "world gulag", just as we averted further Covid damage, which the enemy had much more planned with.

Yes, we need to reach a greater degree of awareness. One of the ways this is done is by first supporting the many websites found on JoS, then by starting advertisement campaigns. If this is to be done, then JoS needs regular income, hence where we come in to support it.
 
Powerofjustice said:
88HungarianSatanicWarrior666 said:
Is it significance(relevant) to donations,that an "amount to be donated"at the same time, or separately,will I send it in several instalments?
For example, within a one month $100 at a time,or within one month $100 every 4 weeks sent at $25 per week?
Does this make any significance, or does it not matter?

Depending on the transaction fees associated with the crypto you're using it could make sense to do one big donation instead of several smaller ones, better to pay 2-3 dollars once, than 4 times for the same sum of money.
For me, the most convenient solution is to give a larger amount at a time.Because I can currently only donate through bitcoin ATMs (just located in big cities).It's quite a hassle for me to get there, and if I take the bus, it only takes me 6 hours to get there-back (which is the fastest, of course)And I keep it a secret from my mom and dad, so they don't even know I'm donating.So I can't really go with them(my mom and dad) either.If I could have my mother's car, it would take me a total of 2 hours to drive all the way(round trip).I do not have my own current account, so I only use the ATM solution.But if I had a current account, I would probably also use ATMs because it's the easiest.Otherwise,I'm incredibly noob to as a money,because money as a theme simply leaves I cold.https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=382206#p382206

But anyway, I've managed to donate once before, but it was my first time and it was just a trial, because I've never done it before.
But I can't wait to donate again next time, for a much larger amount than before.

By the way, thanks also for your comment.
 
jrvan said:
EasternFireLion666 said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Raise questions is not the same as launching a random attack over nothing. It's different. For example, how could you ever reasonably say I speak about Trump, when I have explained for people to not look at these people like saviors and how pointless it is?

This means you reacted emotionally for no reason and without taking logic in consideration.

Ask any question you want, but attacking on top of it is not what Satanists should do to one another.

Yes, it is entirely for safety and privacy reasons I have not publicly exclaimed everything, and this is the sole reason.

I do not care if Twitch streamers or the Catholic church are telling you shit. This is unrelated to this. If you see these as "related", then you need to sit down and think logically and as a Satanist.

Nobody told you you are going to hell if you do not donate. But the fact that our actions are observed is well known. We live in this world and this is how it is for real.

If you do not do certain things to rise or assist, then you cannot demand like a soylent that you are taken seriously.

There is no hellfire here, so stop acting like it.

When there is absolutely no punishment then you are imagining things and confusing information. If you feel guilty for not doing heavenly obligations that will GROW you, then one should feel guilt. I feel guilt if I do not serve SS and do my tasks. You cannot have a life of duties and power without a form of guilt.

The fact that Jeboo preachers tell you lies is none of my business. Additionally, if in doubt, go do a Ritual and ask: "Satan, does Cobra say the TRUTH in regards to this subject, should I give to JOS / work for JOS / do useful tasks to expand your word on top of the earth?" and see what you get.

Maybe I did not fully understand the Trump part so I guess you are right here. As for the Yehubor, soylent, etc parts. IDK... Usually when I need something I say, "I am in urgent need of this because ..." and not "give me 5$ or you are a Yehubor idiot". But whatever, we have our reasons to express ourselves the way we do. Goes for me as well.
To be honest the ask ritual is in my mind. Maybe I am a bit skeptical since I did try to reach Demons and did not really succeed for ways to quicker and better get people to the forums. That's it! I never ask for my personal developments or free gibs. I don't give a single fuck about myself or my life length or so since it is irrelevant if we do not reach mass awareness of the forums ASAP. From what I see if the 2023-2025 range does not manifest something for us, it's too late for anything.
All personal development is for nothing if we are going to end up in a world gulag in 2-3 years.

Then you are giving in to feelings of despair, and being self defeating in the process. You should come to realize that people donating together as a community will lead to more exposure which you claim to want. These donations are going towards expanding our website domains in other languages which will cause it to reach more people. Do you think it's fair to expect a single person to pay for 40+ website domains? Do you know how much a single domain costs? These are regularly incurring expenses. Since we all are putting our energies into growing the JoS, and it is our collective will to bring this to the forefront of the world and we WANT this, don't you think it's reasonable for us to pitch in for what we want? The only reason to say no to this and put your voice against it (which is an influenced effort by forces beyond your awareness to discourage others from donating... you got used) is if you DON'T want it. Now ask yourself: WHY don't you want the JoS to grow? That is the only question that you need to ask. That's what this is all about.

As a community, we all get to decide if we want the JoS to grow or not grow. If everyone decided not to donate then there would be no way to facilitate the expansion. You could do all the money workings you want, and it wouldn't manifest because there's no pathway. Even the Gods can't make something grow that doesn't want to grow, and that's why they don't waste their time because they know it's not how it works. It's stupid to be irresponsible and just say "oh the Gods will handle it." If it were that easy then they would have waved their hands and made a colossal mountain of gold manifest out of thin air into a village, and then the Yehuborim would have vacuumed it all up with their equally colossal noses. And nobody would learn anything, the problem perpetuates, and everyone keeps suffering.



Yes bro need it sorted cant have HPHC left to sort it aw himsel.


My bank actual bans you if you by crypto was wanting to invest ages ago never acted.


Hope we get it flowing and growing and no idiots like that.
 
I was wondering if it would be a good idea to have a forum for donors, dedicated members, and project volunteers only. Anyone can view the forum, but basically only known and trusted SS can post there.

A one time donation of any amount in crypto, and your account would be allowed to post inside that forum. This could work as a "pay wall" to keep trolls out of the way of important projects. To verify, a link to a Transaction Hash can be sent over email.

Member's who's accounts have been on the forums for at least 90 days, or they are working on a well known project, could be granted posting privileges by default.

What do you all think?
 
jrvan said:
EnkiUK55 said:
jrvan said:
Then you are giving in to feelings of despair, and being self defeating in the process. You should come to realize that people donating together as a community will lead to more exposure which you claim to want. These donations are going towards expanding our website domains in other languages which will cause it to reach more people. Do you think it's fair to expect a single person to pay for 40+ website domains? Do you know how much a single domain costs? These are regularly incurring expenses. Since we all are putting our energies into growing the JoS, and it is our collective will to bring this to the forefront of the world and we WANT this, don't you think it's reasonable for us to pitch in for what we want? The only reason to say no to this and put your voice against it (which is an influenced effort by forces beyond your awareness to discourage others from donating... you got used) is if you DON'T want it. Now ask yourself: WHY don't you want the JoS to grow? That is the only question that you need to ask. That's what this is all about.

As a community, we all get to decide if we want the JoS to grow or not grow. If everyone decided not to donate then there would be no way to facilitate the expansion. You could do all the money workings you want, and it wouldn't manifest because there's no pathway. Even the Gods can't make something grow that doesn't want to grow, and that's why they don't waste their time because they know it's not how it works. It's stupid to be irresponsible and just say "oh the Gods will handle it." If it were that easy then they would have waved their hands and made a colossal mountain of gold manifest out of thin air into a village, and then the Yehuborim would have vacuumed it all up with their equally colossal noses. And nobody would learn anything, the problem perpetuates, and everyone keeps suffering.



Yes bro need it sorted cant have HPHC left to sort it aw himsel.


My bank actual bans you if you by crypto was wanting to invest ages ago never acted.


Hope we get it flowing and growing and no idiots like that.

Wow, that's messed up. It's not like crypto fuels anything shady that cash doesn't, so I don't see what problem they have with it. Bad people will use money to trade and do bad things as long as either trading exists or bad people exist. Maybe you can go in person to talk with someone at the bank now that cryptocurrency is more popular and mainstream? Perhaps they will be more lax about it now. If not, there's got to be other options, right? Even putting aside donations, it's not good being limited like that. The High Priest said in a post iirc that it's a good idea to have some crypto along with national currency in preparation for the times ahead.

And yes, we as a community led by the Gods, we must do our part. Rome was built by people's hands, and just like now, many people poured their hearts and dreams into it to eventually create what was one of the greatest empires in the world. Rome required resources, time, energy, all things represented by money. If we want to build the JoS even bigger and better then we need to all put into it. It's not a question of "should we?" as if being scammed is the worst thing that could befall someone (many have been scammed by Yehuborim all their lives, but they're still alive to be able to complain about being afraid of being scammed by Satan, like some here). Instead, it's a matter of necessity. If we want the JoS to grow then it is necessary for us to invest to grow it. Religious organizations are always expanded by the members giving towards it. It's that simple. As the one religious organization not touched by the Yehuborim, I'm willing to give to it. After all, I really want more Satanists in the world, and less xians.

Yes bro they close acc if you even buyit never mind want to keep it or buy/donate. Not sure you get it over there or should say on here.


Just set up a diff acc.


As for what you said i agree and was more backing you against the guy you quoted bro its all good.
 
Ursa Minor said:
I was wondering if it would be a good idea to have a forum for donors, dedicated members, and project volunteers only. Anyone can view the forum, but basically only known and trusted SS can post there.

A one time donation of any amount in crypto, and your account would be allowed to post inside that forum. This could work as a "pay wall" to keep trolls out of the way of important projects. To verify, a link to a Transaction Hash can be sent over email.

Member's who's accounts have been on the forums for at least 90 days, or they are working on a well known project, could be granted posting privileges by default.

What do you all think?

The forum is puplic for all to participate, if they follow the rules. You never know, if a response will be trigger a other valuabel response helping or giving valuabel deeper insight in a subject.

The value of the forum are the answers, by restricting them this would decrease the value off the forum.

If ones works in a important team project, then more then likely they will connect via protonmail. So in a sense these are seperate and exclusive on there own and are allready there.
 
Ursa Minor said:
I was wondering if it would be a good idea to have a forum for donors, dedicated members, and project volunteers only. Anyone can view the forum, but basically only known and trusted SS can post there.

A one time donation of any amount in crypto, and your account would be allowed to post inside that forum. This could work as a "pay wall" to keep trolls out of the way of important projects. To verify, a link to a Transaction Hash can be sent over email.

Member's who's accounts have been on the forums for at least 90 days, or they are working on a well known project, could be granted posting privileges by default.

What do you all think?
Terrible idea, the JoyofSatan is not pay walled, people who want to help cannot because they must donate before joining a project?
 
Fuchs said:
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If ones works in a important team project, then more then likely they will connect via protonmail. So in a sense these are seperate and exclusive on there own and are allready there.

Good point about the Protonmail, it already reduces interference to near zero.

Aquarius said:

Can ignore the donation part, as I realized someone else on here already proposed that idea and it was dropped. The only difference from mine was that system he proposed was forced pay rather than optional donation for early access. Since both ideas got trashed, I'll forget about it.

Anyway, what about both a Q&A forum and an article forum? Basically, instead of a super long thread for newbie questions (that tend to get lost), each question could have a separate thread which may make them easier to search. The article forum would be for members that are posting info, like magick workings and news updates, and not asking a question.

Anyone that starts a question thread in the article forum could have their post moved to the Q&A to keep things a little more organized.
 
For those of you who want to do something but are unsure just how much is appropriate to donate, I once had a conversation with a Yehuborim aquaintence of mine.

I asked him how the synagoges pay for everything when, unlike the catholic churches, they don't pass out those baskets. He told me that once a year every Yehubor pays what is called "Temple Dues" which allows them to attend the majority of their religious services. I asked him how much temple dues were and he told me about $3000.

Moral of the story? Each Satanist should be donating at least $3001 each year 😎
 
So after reading a whole bunch of posts on this topic I have to say Cobra is the man for slinging shit straight back into the shit slingers face you know that song here comes the boom I think of that song when they go you don't really want it right it's like fuck yeah man roast em up good.

With my new cash money job and my tax return on the way I wish to take on more burden so that 100 a month just got jacked to 400 a month I'm aiming for 10% of the cost of running all the websites looking to take the weight off your back my friend.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Every donated dollar to the JoS is a holy dollar, and every dollar one takes from the enemy through intelligent and legal ways is a holiest dollar.

Is money acquired (and then donated) through investiments/assets moral?
 
Elas Qilar said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Every donated dollar to the JoS is a holy dollar, and every dollar one takes from the enemy through intelligent and legal ways is a holiest dollar.

Is money acquired (and then donated) through investiments/assets moral?

Yes, absolutely, it's borne out of intelligence and foresight. This proves proficiency for a person, and generosity towards what is right.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Elas Qilar said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Every donated dollar to the JoS is a holy dollar, and every dollar one takes from the enemy through intelligent and legal ways is a holiest dollar.

Is money acquired (and then donated) through investiments/assets moral?

Yes, absolutely, it's borne out of intelligence and foresight. This proves proficiency for a person, and generosity towards what is right.

This seems weird to me. Weren't the national socialists against speculative income (income without work) as they end up strengthening even more the (((financial elites))) at the top? Aren't some of the RTRs against it somehow (e.g. Terminating Yehuborim Financial Control)?
 
Elas Qilar said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Elas Qilar said:
Is money acquired (and then donated) through investiments/assets moral?

Yes, absolutely, it's borne out of intelligence and foresight. This proves proficiency for a person, and generosity towards what is right.

This seems weird to me. Weren't the national socialists against speculative income (income without work) as they end up strengthening even more the (((financial elites))) at the top? Aren't some of the RTRs against it somehow (e.g. Terminating Yehuborim Financial Control)?

We are not a political party here nor we are the political party of a country or the planet. We just mention that a certain political party has followed certain eternal Truths that are incumbent in the beliefs that our Gods have created, or at least, did their best to try this. And they clearly did that. They were not the first or the last politicians to do this.

Previous Empires, kings and conquerors have done this, or have not done this and reaped the consequences. To not do this, generally ends up in disaster.

Political policies are adjusted based on the Eternal Truths explained in the Aryan Religious roots that are common to Gentiles worldwide and then affirmed downwards to address the needs that arise out of a spacetime in a Nation or the world and above all the people living there.

If Hitler or anyone like this came back now, their movement would be different, but abide by the core teachings. From there on, one expands and formulates according to the needs of a time, era and century.

The National Socialists were in 1925 to 1945. We are closely 100 years later, the economy and life has reformed itself completely. Most of the charter in National Socialism was written to address the problems of the time, and then the eternal things that would stand the test of time. Politicies change with time and influenced by everything in society.

Warren Buffet is a financial elite, but nor a Yehubor, nor evil. There are many other Financial Elites, who are not evil people or necessarily do more harm than good, and quite a few, do from a management or general perspective, way more good than harm. Then you have others who are trash.

In these categories, the Yehuborim have infested and mentally infected the majority of these people, who regularly exist in every civilization either through ability or through increased intelligence. They transform them into fools and per-occupy them with stupid things. Some are fools from birth, and some very intelligent. There is no singular point here.

Income without "work" is relative, as even in working in stock markets and so on, one is still working, studying and making research. The lack of "labor", is compensated by the risks one takes, which is what one exchanges for this type of "less labor" work.

Non traditional types of work and "labor" exist today more than ever. Albeit we have a confused economy, this is the result of greatly enlarged economies. They become more complex and more weird.

The National Socialists are a party that that was active within the very specific time spectrum, and for a brief time, and under specific circumstances of social, political, production, financial realities of the time.

Now, times have changed very much, and the world is also moving towards modes of production, development and fiscal management that are influenced by technology, remote work, and all sorts of other complexities that did not exist back then. If they existed, they would have adapted.

A basic example here is that if we found robots that would do the field work, then it is very high likely the work and life in the field would change and with it, the basic underlying structure of what one is pro or against. How has the tractor for example, influenced our labor? It clearly made labor able by fewer. How about automatic farming? Well, that requires work and "labor" too, and hours and management, but the means have changed, and therefore, the reality on this.

In Hitler's time, it was decided that a good time to work for people should never exceed 8 hours, as a general law. One could still decide overtime. But inhumane conditions like 14 hours per day, were forbidden. Now, many people worldwide [if we actually progress in Aquarius] might slowly be able to do less time at work, might even go down to 4, five times per week for a good salary.

Then, there are people like me, who enjoy to work and spend time on what they work at for 8 or 12 hours on the daily, sometimes, two days straight, and I do not consider it "humane" for anyone to stop me.

The basic realities always remain. Even stock brokers and others who are not total crooks, and economists, or even what we call "speculators", give a great amount of forethought, intelligence, planning and engage in other forms of indirect work that is not "traditional labor" to bear fruits.

The invention of the car, for example, does challenge many decisions such as for working or not "working". If a car was produced once upon a time, does the creator of it count as a person who is not "laboring"? Clearly, not. They have labored and the car is still there. Do they need to be paid? It should be clear, that yes.

Reality is a bit more complex than just a single law. We go by the time and developments.

The problem is that the same mechanism can be misused by the likes of the Yehuborim to cause speculations, crashes and so on. The fact Yehuborim use this on the negative does not make something evil in it's entirety, anymore than Yehuborim using meditation does not make it evil.

Stock markets and similar practices existed in the past, and are part of a quasi predictive process that is also related to gambling. There are risks involved etc. Even the manipulation of such was after the Yehuborim learned from the Babylonians, who were conducting trade and other "banking services" like most Ancient Civilizations did. The banks were not evil, just institutions.

Yehuborim fuck everything up basically as they care about their own selves and their agenda is without a compass. This is what causes the damage.
 

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