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Capitalism Isn’t much different than communism

It is that communism comes after capitalism. Look at how corrupt the economists are with very expensive shit which no-one needs, and for the common non-spiritual person with the deals/bargains and budget shops, etc., and how much we cannot share, etc., because we are being scammed, etc. I see in shops that certain products, of different brands, are always on half-price/two-for-one/BOGOF, or on TV adverts for whatever product, they are always doing a deal for it, all the time. If a chain shop does badly somewhere, then instead of lowering the prices in that particular shop, they shut that shop in that location down entirely. "If you are not going to buy from our shop here (you not being able to afford it is irrelevant), then fuck you; we'll remove this shop from your area entirely!". Then that shop plot is left empty for months or years, turning things into a ghost town eventually. This is done deliberately; instead of doing this, lower the price of your products/brands. If you want custom, undercut the competition...no?! Obviously, (((they))) don't want custom; (((they))) want problems and bad economy and suffering/more austerity/another recession/another Depression, etc.

Then we get fed-up with the shit, and then we love Yehubor's leader, so then we share and not own anything of our own, and have a false sense of WW2 regime, and we have communism/christianity, basically. (I am sure others can correct this in a more fine-tuned manner than I have said here.)
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Many in Europe and elsewhere work for 65 hours weekly just to get by. Yes, that bad. 8 hours for 5 days sounds heavenly even to me according to what I have seen. If you break these down, the work hour of the Middle Ages and other terrible times, was 11.5 to 12 hours a day, which many people effectively do today. All the same.
Some years ago i found a job that i did for like two week before breacking down (I was meditating during this) 10 hours per day for 20 euros which is litteraly nothing for this type of job, It was a pretty heavy job too, i did not sit around and the owner told his costumer that i was too slow -_- while the costumers actually nerver complained about me at all but always told me i was very nice to them...such shitty owner, he clearly used drugs too.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
If you break these down, the work hour of the Middle Ages and other terrible times, was 11.5 to 12 hours a day, which many people effectively do today. All the same.
Seasonal workers (those working during summer in resorts, restaurants, hotels, pools, etc) in sea places easily work 14 hours a day 7 days a week. Minimum wage if one's lucky (~6€/h), more often half of that. I'm referring to Italy here.
Then gasoline is around 1.5€/liter (6,4$/US gallon), taxes are like half of what you earn and this does not count yet bills and basic things. Basically you're lucky if you make a buck when you your work contract ends lol it's absurd
 
Pirate11 said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
If you break these down, the work hour of the Middle Ages and other terrible times, was 11.5 to 12 hours a day, which many people effectively do today. All the same.
Seasonal workers (those working during summer in resorts, restaurants, hotels, pools, etc) in sea places easily work 14 hours a day 7 days a week. Minimum wage if one's lucky (~6€/h), more often half of that. I'm referring to Italy here.
Then gasoline is around 1.5€/liter (6,4$/US gallon), taxes are like half of what you earn and this does not count yet bills and basic things. Basically you're lucky if you make a buck when you your work contract ends lol it's absurd
In case you, or anyone, missed them -
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=6354#p6354
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=74717#p74717

Is it correct that tax is illegal, or a "sin", in islam? I wonder what, how and why that might be the case with the attempt of bringing shariah "law" into White areas...
 
FancyMancy said:
What?
While the concept of taxes is correct and useful, taxes in Italy are implemented in such a way Italian tax-payers benefit only a little for the money they pay. Taxes in Italy are not illegal, they are just implemented the "italian way". Italy's television tax (canone RAI) should be illigal, because it makes no fucking sense whatsoever lol it's just people's money burned instead of making anything useful
 
Stormblood said:
Pirate11 said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
If you break these down, the work hour of the Middle Ages and other terrible times, was 11.5 to 12 hours a day, which many people effectively do today. All the same.
Seasonal workers (those working during summer in resorts, restaurants, hotels, pools, etc) in sea places easily work 14 hours a day 7 days a week. Minimum wage if one's lucky (~6€/h), more often half of that. I'm referring to Italy here.
Then gasoline is around 1.5€/liter (6,4$/US gallon), taxes are like half of what you earn and this does not count yet bills and basic things. Basically you're lucky if you make a buck when you your work contract ends lol it's absurd

One of the highest VATs in the world and in the top 10 in Europe... I don't know what worms must be eating someone's brain to put VAT at 22% (or anywhere above 10%, as far as I'm concerned). And the leftist government of course this year wants to increase it to 25.2%. Karma should be accelerated so fast and so strongly that it brings awful chronic diseases and severe misfortunes for several generations to this people, even death.
A leader of the democratic party got the coronavirus, lmao.
 
Pirate11 said:
FancyMancy said:
What?
While the concept of taxes is correct and useful, taxes in Italy are implemented in such a way Italian tax-payers benefit only a little for the money they pay. Taxes in Italy are not illegal, they are just implemented the "italian way". Italy's television tax (canone RAI) should be illigal, because it makes no fucking sense whatsoever lol it's just people's money burned instead of making anything useful

All of Taxation exists in the first place so the State can provide provisions, public services, and things for the citizens as a whole, due to strategic planning.

If people get nothing out of their taxes [common nowadays due to enormous and impossible to pay debts, or corrupt yehuborim or politicians] then the system requires a reset.
 
Pirate11 said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
If you break these down, the work hour of the Middle Ages and other terrible times, was 11.5 to 12 hours a day, which many people effectively do today. All the same.
Seasonal workers (those working during summer in resorts, restaurants, hotels, pools, etc) in sea places easily work 14 hours a day 7 days a week. Minimum wage if one's lucky (~6€/h), more often half of that. I'm referring to Italy here.
Then gasoline is around 1.5€/liter (6,4$/US gallon), taxes are like half of what you earn and this does not count yet bills and basic things. Basically you're lucky if you make a buck when you your work contract ends lol it's absurd

This crap is down to the last penny calculated. And sometimes, badly calculated. Professional economists for the enemy sit down everyday trying to make a system where all of this happens deliberately, either through tax policy or other methods, to leave the larger mass of the people totally penniless.

This has a lot of thought behind it, and this is not a real "Free Market" at all. They intervene and modulate things to keep it exactly in this way. This is why in Europe many are trying unconventional methods to make ends meet.
 
Aquarius said:
Stormblood said:
Pirate11 said:
Seasonal workers (those working during summer in resorts, restaurants, hotels, pools, etc) in sea places easily work 14 hours a day 7 days a week. Minimum wage if one's lucky (~6€/h), more often half of that. I'm referring to Italy here.
Then gasoline is around 1.5€/liter (6,4$/US gallon), taxes are like half of what you earn and this does not count yet bills and basic things. Basically you're lucky if you make a buck when you your work contract ends lol it's absurd

One of the highest VATs in the world and in the top 10 in Europe... I don't know what worms must be eating someone's brain to put VAT at 22% (or anywhere above 10%, as far as I'm concerned). And the leftist government of course this year wants to increase it to 25.2%. Karma should be accelerated so fast and so strongly that it brings awful chronic diseases and severe misfortunes for several generations to this people, even death.
A leader of the democratic party got the coronavirus, lmao.
I wonder if I hadn't have said that, then these "leaders" and individuals wouldn't have (pretended to have) got it. Maybe the top 1000 individuals in the "royal" benefits family will all die from it. a while later after it didn't happen Well, one can wish!
 
Communism is fucked up in the following ways-
1. Not owning anything you work for.( be it 1 or 100 hour weeks).
2. No rights in the say of how Govs work.
3. Slave- owner relationship.

Capitalism- in the worst case of "economy" sustaining . This is the best option available being that the countries are a bit democratic? .
Quality of how money can be earned no matter how hard you have worked(or havent) . Quality of work in terms of generation of money after the product is introduced in the market is what matters. The reason of success of US and the reason ppl their could have in the ideal sense of life enjoyed benefits lies in the quality factor.

In the communist form what your product earns in the market after it is produced doesnt matter . Recognition maybe to the regime?. Not you .

Taxation on the other hand varies, in the circumstances we have now, it doesnt matter how harsh the taxes are provided you get life benefits( Sweden? for example ). If things were to continue the way they would( which is a sure no no) , even a country with a capitalist socialist( capitalism should never neglect the way the earn money ethically). This somewhat gives a sense of security to the people.
 

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