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California's de-criminaliziation of petty theft Disaster

Ninja 666

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California's de-criminaliziation of petty theft has become a disaster. This shop owner is shoplifted several times a day.

The clip is around 3 min.

American Dystopia, Part 2: San Francisco small business owner struggles with theft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJcWFkRiKIU

California's Prop 47 leads to rise in shoplifting, thefts, criminal activity across state
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-prop-47-shoplifting-theft-crime-statewide
 
I kinda understand the idea behind this. Underline kinda. But are these people fucked up in the head?

They decriminalize theft and expect that everything is going to be alright?

The slippery slope never ends. What is next, decriminalizing murder cause whatever?

It is also the poor that will get massacred from this, not the rich. Because big companies can defend themselves with protection systems. Small companies will become ransacked by looters now.

This should be called the daily dose of illogical communism.
 
I was watching all those videos from Tucker Carlson a few days ago, his series of clips American Dystopia about San Francisco. You can't step anywhere without stepping on drug needles and people's shit. Everywhere you look there are homeless drug zombies doing crack and heroin right in public, even in front of the police station.

The new District Attorney has always had the direct goal of not enforcing any crimes, this was his whole campaign that he ran by, and he does everything in his power every day to make sure that all crimes are not enforced. A police officer's car window was broken and had her stuff stolen from her car, and she didn't even report it because she knows how it works that it would never be enforced. Even if they find the guy that did it, all they do is write down his name on a paper and immediately let him go.

It's so bad with the police not being allowed to do their job, that people are hiring their own private "police" to help protect them and clean up the area, because the real police is never gonna do it.

San Francisco is Nancy Pelosi's district. All while she's messing around with this impeachment nonsense, her actual job is to take care of San Francisco. And look how they let it become! Every day, they have hundreds of thousands of drug needles and human shit dropped all over the ground (because the city gives out hundreds of thousands of free drug needles) and then it rains and washes it all right into the ocean, then it washes right onto all the beaches so all the beaches are covered in a million drug needles. Trump just recently started making that city pay huge fines to the government for how horribly they are messing up that whole environment.

Then you got Bill De Blasio in NYC trying to copy them with all these same kinds of policies. In NYC, they just got rid of bail money. So if you get caught doing a crime, they just immediately let you go. Even if someone kills someone, like manslaughter or even some kinds of purposeful murder, they just take them to the station to identify them and write down their name, then immediately turn the criminal loose back to the street.

Like Trump says, "Democrats are the party of open borders, high crime, no security, no safety, high taxes, and high corruption. Republicans are the party of secure borders, law enforcement, safety, freedom, and prosperity." You can see this in their actions.
 
Ms. Pelosi appears to be so invested in high living and generally creating political hoaxes, and running the Democratic party to the ground, so they have no time to manage this crisis.

This is what we can call "IDGAF" politics. You just instate laws to look fancy and stuff, and pretend everything is going ok, and people like in a dystopia and chaos, and all you do is you act self righteous and try to back-stab the President in the back.

Ms Pelosi has to get serious. The republican line that blames them over their districts is not a joke, it appears to be verifiably real.

Removing the law is just creating a "The Joker" scenario. This is like The Joker or some shit.
 
Giuliani, the one who is now investigating Ukrainian corruption and working with Trump, he is the lawyer who took down the entire Mafia crime families in NYC. And he was a genious mayor of NYC who completely transformed the city. In the 1970s and 1980s, drugs and murder were both so common all over the country, and especially in the big cities like NYC. Giuliani had a way to solve all of this, called the "Broken windows policy" it was created by Harvard university lawyers who were studying methods of stopping crimes. This policy says that when there are all these different crimes going on at every level, you have to start arresting all the low level offenders. Like painting graffiti on walls, breaking windows, not paying for the public transportation, small drug dealers. They started arresting all these smaller criminals and taking their names and fingerprints, and they found that many of these people had a gun with them, or were involved in other crimes at the same time. A lot of their fingerprints matched with very big unsolved crimes. In the first few months of this policy, they solved thousands of high level crimes, by doing things like matching fingerprints and finding weapons. The same murderer or rapist that got away with it before, is also doing the low level "unimportant" crimes. So when they catch him for that, they catch him for his past crimes also.

In the interview I saw, Giuliani was explaining all this and telling the story. That when kids would get away with low level crimes, it would teach them that it is okay to do and they won't get in trouble, so they keep doing bigger and bigger crimes as they get older. He talked about how with the drug dealers, the police knew who all the drug dealers are but they weren't stopping them. Some times they would arrest one, but then they just pay the bail money and they are back out selling more drugs just a few hours later. So kids would see that this drug dealer is making all this money, and they want that money too. And they see the drug dealer never gets in any trouble. Maybe he gets arrested once or twice a month, but every time he's back out a couple hours later and it's like nothing ever happened. So the kids see that drug dealing is a good way to live, they get all this money, and there are no consequences. So you have to be very strict with all the low level crimes and don't let anyone get away with anything, and that sends the message to all the kids that it is not okay to do crimes, so they won't do them when they grow up. In a few years of Giuliani's policy, the entire city was transformed and crime went down to the lowest levels it ever was.

And now De Blasio is the mayor, and he is doing the opposite of all those policies. De Blasio is making it so that there is no punishment for all the low level crimes, and that they don't even have to pay any fine, they never get arrested, and if they do get arrested, they let them go home immediately. He is making it so it is allowed to do all these crimes, and there is no punishment or deterrent. And already, crime is going up very fast there.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
I kinda understand the idea behind this. Underline kinda. But are these people fucked up in the head?

They decriminalize theft and expect that everything is going to be alright?

The slippery slope never ends. What is next, decriminalizing murder cause whatever?

It is also the poor that will get massacred from this, not the rich. Because big companies can defend themselves with protection systems. Small companies will become ransacked by looters now.

This should be called the daily dose of illogical communism.
It's just another avenue to try and ban firearms so you cannot defend yourself and what's yours. You shoot someone robbing your shop, you get put in jail and lose your shop, life, livelihood, etc. Tell me I'm wrong.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Giuliani, the one who is now investigating Ukrainian corruption and working with Trump, he is the lawyer who took down the entire Mafia crime families in NYC. And he was a genious mayor of NYC who completely transformed the city. In the 1970s and 1980s, drugs and murder were both so common all over the country, and especially in the big cities like NYC. Giuliani had a way to solve all of this, called the "Broken windows policy" it was created by Harvard university lawyers who were studying methods of stopping crimes. This policy says that when there are all these different crimes going on at every level, you have to start arresting all the low level offenders. Like painting graffiti on walls, breaking windows, not paying for the public transportation, small drug dealers. They started arresting all these smaller criminals and taking their names and fingerprints, and they found that many of these people had a gun with them, or were involved in other crimes at the same time. A lot of their fingerprints matched with very big unsolved crimes. In the first few months of this policy, they solved thousands of high level crimes, by doing things like matching fingerprints and finding weapons. The same murderer or rapist that got away with it before, is also doing the low level "unimportant" crimes. So when they catch him for that, they catch him for his past crimes also.

In the interview I saw, Giuliani was explaining all this and telling the story. That when kids would get away with low level crimes, it would teach them that it is okay to do and they won't get in trouble, so they keep doing bigger and bigger crimes as they get older. He talked about how with the drug dealers, the police knew who all the drug dealers are but they weren't stopping them. Some times they would arrest one, but then they just pay the bail money and they are back out selling more drugs just a few hours later. So kids would see that this drug dealer is making all this money, and they want that money too. And they see the drug dealer never gets in any trouble. Maybe he gets arrested once or twice a month, but every time he's back out a couple hours later and it's like nothing ever happened. So the kids see that drug dealing is a good way to live, they get all this money, and there are no consequences. So you have to be very strict with all the low level crimes and don't let anyone get away with anything, and that sends the message to all the kids that it is not okay to do crimes, so they won't do them when they grow up. In a few years of Giuliani's policy, the entire city was transformed and crime went down to the lowest levels it ever was.

And now De Blasio is the mayor, and he is doing the opposite of all those policies. De Blasio is making it so that there is no punishment for all the low level crimes, and that they don't even have to pay any fine, they never get arrested, and if they do get arrested, they let them go home immediately. He is making it so it is allowed to do all these crimes, and there is no punishment or deterrent. And already, crime is going up very fast there.
Speaking of NY did you hear where they're making it so that criminals can avoid jail until trial, inspect their own crime scenes and obtain names of witnesses?


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/26/new-york-to-allow-accused-criminals-to-inspect-own-crime-scenes-quickly-obtain-witness-names/

The state of New York will soon allow accused criminals to inspect their own crime scenes and will quickly provide them with a complete list of named witnesses testifying against them as part of a series of new jailbreak laws.

As Breitbart News reported, New York’s bail reforms, set to go into effect January 2020, will ensure that suspects accused of crimes deemed “non-violent” are not jailed before their trial dates and do not have to post bail. Instead, these suspects are released directly back into the public and expected to show up for their court dates. Roughly 125,000 accused criminals are expected to be released from prison every year in the state.

Those so-called non-violent crimes include second-degree manslaughter, aggravated vehicular assault, promoting an obscene sexual performance by a child, possessing an obscene sexual performance by a child, criminally negligent homicide, and aggravated vehicular homicide.

As part of the measure, defendants will have new privileges in their criminal trials — including being allowed to inspect their own crime scenes. For example, if an individual is charged with home burglary, the suspect will be allowed to return to the victim’s home and inspect their property as part of their defense.

“It really boggles the mind that this is a reality for us now,” Lt. Steven Stockdale of the Warren County Sheriff’s Office told CBS 6 Albany in October of the provision. “Talk about re-victimization.”

Another portion of the law will more quickly give defendants a full list of named witnesses testifying against them in the criminal trial. Starting in January, the prosecution will be forced to hand over to defendants a list of named witnesses within 15 days of the defendants’ arraignment.

In June, the Manhattan Institute’s Seth Barron and Ralf Mangual wrote that such a provision will make it impossible for prosecutors to ensure witnesses are protected through the criminal trial process:

Prosecutors will no longer be able to assure witnesses that their identity will be protected, even in the case of grand jury testimony, which the new law will now require be disclosed. (While there’s a provision to ask a judge for a protective order to shield a name, that would come after cops and prosecutors talk to witnesses to make an arrest and build a case.) [Emphasis added]



Manhattan DA Cy Vance put it this way: “Having to hand defendants a roster of who has spoken out against them just 15 days after their first appearance, absent a protective order, is a seismic change that undoubtedly will dissuade witnesses who live in all neighborhoods from reporting crime.” [Emphasis added]

Manhattan’s District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr., and Brooklyn DA Eric Gonzalez are just two of New York’s district attorneys, as well as law enforcement officials, who have spoken out against the bail reform plans. Both are progressive Democrats.

Across the county, jailbreak legislation is helping to free thousands of accused and convicted criminals from prison. Federally, the First Step Act that was signed into law by President Trump has thus far freed about 240 sex offenders, nearly 60 convicted murderers and assailants, as well as almost 1,000 inmates convicted of drug crimes.

Also freed by the First Step Act is Joel Francisco, a notorious former leader of the “Latin Kings” gang who immediately returned to a life of drugs after his release and is now accused of murder.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
I kinda understand the idea behind this. Underline kinda. But are these people fucked up in the head?

They decriminalize theft and expect that everything is going to be alright?

The slippery slope never ends. What is next, decriminalizing murder cause whatever?

It is also the poor that will get massacred from this, not the rich. Because big companies can defend themselves with protection systems. Small companies will become ransacked by looters now.

This should be called the daily dose of illogical communism.


They are completely stupid.

Back in school I was taught there is a difference between theory and practice. It might have worked well in theory, but when you see results like this you go back to the drawing board.

Them continuing with this is just idiotic. It's stupid.

The Marxist droids probably feel themselves justified by blaming the shop owner or some other insanity.
 

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