</var> Here is a repeat [for people who are new here] post I made some years back
regarding the Church of Satan. I also want to add here- Anton LaVey was
exceptionally rare- he was incarnated as a jew in order to accomplish what he
did. No Gentile would have gotten anywhere if they tried to do what he did in
the way of getting positive material about Satan published, opening the first
modern above ground Satanic Church and much, much more. The jewish controlled
press, media and legal system would have shut them down immediately.
He is NOT a jewish soul. I know this as I have met him and conversed with him
numerous times. He is highly respected and known by all souls in Hell. Yes, he
made mistakes, but so does everyone else. The important thing is that he opened
the door for us. I also have much gratitude for him in that I came to Satan
after reading his Satanic Bible and Satanic Rituals. He has also expressed much
abhorrance at what his Church has become. He says he is 'appalled.'
Here is my repeat post:
Wed Aug 24, 2005
Anton LaVey
First off, it is mentioned in the rules for this e-group that we DO know
Satan is a real being. Pushing LaVeyanism here is not needed or wanted.
I personally don't call Church of Satan "Satanists" as IMO, CoS is nothing
more than an Anton LaVey CULT [Jazz music, 1940's and 50's films noir genre]. I
do not take it upon myself to bash other
groups, but I see where this discussion is going on here and I have always
wanted to do this for an article. I guess now is the time. When I was new to
Satanism, LaVeyanism really appealed to me because I came as an atheist. I was
surprised to learn that Satan and his Demons are real beings which I found in a
short time.
The quotes below expose endless hypocrisy with where the CoS is at today. Satan
and the Powers of Hell do not have time for childish games.
Quotes from Anton LaVey:
"In the name of all who suffered and died as agents of the Devil in ages
past, the present band of heretics-those who would deny the Devil, yet play
his game-must be called to task"
"And what do they do , now that it is safe and clear to use His Great
Infernal Name? They deny Him!"
-Anton Szandor LaVey The Devil's Notebook, page 33
"Let it be known that every man who delves into the arts of darkness must
give the Devil and His children the due their years of infamy deserve.
Satan's Name will not be denied! Let no man shun or mock His Name who plays
His winning game or despair, depletion, and destruction await!"
-Anton Szandor LaVey The Devil's Notebook, page 34
Official Church of Satan official website
[url=http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html]http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html
Click on "Theory-Practice" then "Policy Statements"
"* Satanic Youth Communique"
Here is an excerpt:
"Don't be disturbed or frightened or think you're crazy when you feel
contacted by the Dark Ones you conjure forth, or by the magical results you
begin to produce. You're not crazy for feeling the way you do about the
hypocrisy, blindness and incompetence you see all around you. Nor are you
crazy to see the results of your Black Magic. Approach the Dark Masters with the
proper degree of respect and decorum-that's what rituals are for, to establish a
relationship. If you approach the demons respectfully, they will reward you with
knowledge, guidance, and success. Your demon guide is within you-don't look for
it outside. You just have to contact that part of
yourself and listen to it. That is the most important work anyone can do."
"The difference between prayer and magic can be compared to the difference
between applying for a loan and writing out a blank check for a desired
amount. A man applying for a loan (prayer) may have nothing but a job as
collateral and must keep working and pay interest, should the loan be
granted. Otherwise he will wind up with bad credit (purgatory). The man
(magician) who writes the desired amount on the blank check, assumes there
will be delivery of the merchandise, and he pays no interest. He is indeed
fortunate-but he had better have sufficient funds (magical qualities) to
cover the amount written, or he may wind up in far worse straits, and have
his creditors (demons) out looking for him."
Page 20, bottom paragraph, Satanic Rituals (c) 1972 by Anton LaVey
I wasn't aware that "archetypes" could be "out looking for someone."
Here are some more interesting quotes from the Satanic Rituals:
"If one is truly good inside he can call the names of the
Gods of the Abyss with freedom from guilt and immunity from
harm. The resultant feeling will be most gratifying. But there is
no turning back. Here are the Rites of Lucifer ... for those
who dare remove their mantles of self-righteousness."
Anton Szandor LaVey
The Church of Satan
25 December VI Anno Satanas
Page 14, Satanic Rituals (c) 1972 by Anton LaVey
No turning back?? If Satan is an only an "archetype" then why is there "no
turning back"?
"As to the pronunciation of the names involved (despite
some occultists who insist, "You can't expect help from the
forces you call upon if you can't pronounce their names right,"),
assume that the forces, demons, or elementals have enough
insight to judge a caller's worthiness on more profound criteria
than his glib tongue or expensive shoes."
Page 22, Satanic Rituals (c) 1972 by Anton LaVey
What difference does it make if they are only "archetypes" on how we
pronounce their names??
"The Satanic Bible states that the magician should treat the
entities he calls upon as friends and companions, for even an
"impersonal" device will respond better to a conscientious and
respectful user. This principle is accurate for operating automobiles
and power tools, as well as demons and elementals."
Page 24, Satanic Rituals (c) 1972 by Anton LaVey
The above statement is awfully blatant. If they are only "archetypes" then
how is it they "respond"?
"The Yezidi interpretation of God was in the purest Satanic
tradition. The idea, so prominent in Greek philosophy, that
God is an existence absolute and complete in himself, unchangeable,
outside of time and space, did not exist in Yezidi
theology. Also rejected was the theocratic Judaic concept of
Jehovah, and also the Mohammedan God: the absolute ruler.
The notion, unique to Christians, that God is Christ-like in
character was totally absent. If there was any semblance of a
personal manifestation of God, it was through Satan, who
instructed and guided the Yezidi toward an understanding of
the multifaceted principles of Creation, much like the Platonic
idea that the Absolute was itself static and transcendental. This
concept of "God" is essentially the position taken by the
more highly evolved Satanists. Prayer was forbidden, in the
strictest Satanic tradition. Even daily expressions of faith were
referred to as "recitals."
Page 154, Satanic Rituals (c) 1972 by Anton LaVey
The above is a most beautiful quote and very true. If Satan is only an
archetype though, how can he "guide"?
Page 29 of The Satanic Bible (c) 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey:
"The Devil has been attacked by the men of God relentlessly and without
reservation. Never has there been an opportunity, short of fiction, for the
Dark Prince to speak out in the same manner as the spokesmen of the Lord of
the Righteous."
Why would an "archetype" speak out?
"For all the centuries of shouting-down the Devil has received, he has never
shouted back at his detractors. He has remained the gentleman at all times,
while those he supports rant and rave. He has shown himself to be a model of
deportment, but now he feels it is time to shout back. He has decided it is
finally time to receive his due."
**
Here is reversed xianity:
"The seven deadly sins of the Christian Church are: greed, pride, envy,
anger, gluttony, lust, and sloth. Satanism advocates indulging in each of these
"sins" as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification."
Page 46, The Satanic Bible (c) 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey
This one is rather blatant:
"An indication of the cowardice of "magicians" of the right-hand path is the
practice of calling upon a particular demon (who would supposedly be a minion of
the devil) to do his bidding.
The assumption is that the demon, being only a flunky of the devil, is
easier to control. Occult lore states that only the most formidably "protected"
or insanely foolhardy sorcerer would try
to call forth the Devil himself. The Satanist does not furtively call upon these
"lesser" devils, but brazenly invokes those who people that infernal army of
long-standing outrage - the Devils themselves!"
Page 57, The Satanic Bible (c) 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey
Now, Laveyanists claim they are already "gods" well, if they are "gods" why
do they bother to call upon and invoke the Crowned Princes of Hell?
Why bother to call upon "archetypes"?
"Oh great brothers of the night, thou who makest my place of comfort, who
rideth out upon the hot winds of Hell, who dwelleth in the devil's fane; Move
and appear!
Present yourselves to him (her) who sustaineth the rottenness of the mind that
moves the gibbering mouth that mocks the just and strong!; rend that gaggling
tongue and close his (her) throat, Oh Kali!
Pierce his (her) lungs with the stings of scorpions, Oh Sekhmet! Plunge his
(her) substance into the dismal void, Oh mighty Dagon!"
Pages 149-150, The Satanic Bible (c) 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey
"Oh great lurkers in the darkness, oh guardians of the way, oh minions of
the might of Thoth! Move and appear! Present yourselves to us in your benign
power, in behalf of one who believes and is stricken with torment.
Isolate him (her) in the bulwark of your protection, for he (she) is
undeserving of anguish and desires it not..."
Page 151, The Satanic Bible (c) 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey
"If you can't conjure up a satisfactory demon lover, you can never hope to
even approach the real thing."
Page 121, (c) 1998, Satan Speaks by Anton Szandor LaVey
**
The above quotes are from LaVey and there are many, many more. If I had more
time, I could present a lot more. When I was new, I read *everything*
including every link on the "Church of Satan" website. I read all of LaVey's
books cover to cover and several CoS magazines- the Black Flame, the Cloven Hoof
and others affiliated. The point is- all the double-talk. Now, Blanche Barton
who was LaVey's secretary and live-in girlfriend and mother of his child wrote
some pretty interesting things:
The Secret Life of a Satanist: The Authorized Biography of Anton LaVey" (c)
1990, 1992 by Blanche Barton:
Page 16, bottom of the page: "Hadn't anyone called forth the demons before
as their friends? I thought they surely had."
Jayne Mansfield's six-year-old son Zoltan was attacked by a lion at a zoo.
Here is what Barton writes:
Page 98: "Now as he held his cape out like great leathery wings against the
raging wind, the rain beat hard on his face, and, summoning all the power
within himself, LaVey called upon his brother Satan to spare Zoltan's life.
In remarkable time, Zoltan recovered form his wounds."
The Church of Satan (c) 1990, by Blanche Barton:
Page 93: LaVey didn't want to stand inside a feeble, chalk-drawn circle,
summoning these whirling forces in the name of "Jehovah" and flailing the
sign of the Cross in the air to protect himself. His magickal instincts told him
that, if he wanted to entreat the Dark Ones to carry out his wishes, he'd best
call upon them boldly, with conviction, as friends and companions, not quivering
in their unholy presence."
Page 97: "We don't have to kill our God: we don't wear the instrument of his
agony and death around our necks."
In the above, Barton is making a comparison between Satanists and xians.
Note, she mentions "our God." Why say this about an "archetype"?
Page 103:
"When you're faced with that decision, with that piece of paper in front of
you, declaring your allegiance to Satan for all eternity, renouncing God,
Jesus Christ, Heaven and redemption, you may find suddenly that you don't
want to go through with it. That's good. You should find out. If you do want ton
align yourself with those forces completely, and you know there is no turning
back, you know you can pursue the delights of the flesh without repression. "
Page 104:
"It is also dangerous for people who take part of the philosophy and try to
ignore the rest; adopt the liberation without taking responsibility. Or
using Satan's tools to gain material wealth, then not giving homage to the
Devil in some small way, in some dark subterranean grotto somewhere. Some of
the most powerful men and women in history have freely given that homage,
where no one would ever suspect, let alone discover. And their wealth and
happiness increased beyond reckoning. But you have to take responsibility
for your actions. As has been said, nobody rides for free."
Page 109:
"If you have nothing in particular you want to perform a ritual for, its
perfectly understandable you may feel a strong need to ritualize but don't
actually know why. If that's the case, develop your own kind of Dedication
Ritual, to renew and reaffirm your strength and alignment. Open the ritual
as instructed, then instead of reading one of the three suggested
invocations, speak your mind freely. in speaking directly to Satan himself,
you may discover what is in your subconscious that you can't quite bring to
the surface. Express appreciation for the direction you have received from
the Dark Lord and ask that he continue to guide you to further increase your
earthly power - - you might want to write out part of your Dedication ahead of
time, to spur your thoughts once you're in the chamber. Ask that he bestow
ever-increasing wisdom and perspective so that you can carry out your Dark Will
on the Earth. Instruct the demons you name to manifest themselves to you by
increasing your earthly pleasures."
Page 110:
Keep yourself constantly aware of instructional coincidences, open to the
demons who will whisper in your ear. An old meaning of demon used to be
'muse' - - a guiding, inspirational spirit. You will get guiding signs if
you only make yourself sensitive to them."
Page 111:
"Our standards, Satan's standards, remain consistently high."
The above quotes are only a few. There are so many major discrepancies. The
"archetype" image is an insult and a blasphemy to Satan. Satan is *very*
real! Many of us have seen him face to face and have even had the privilege
of conversing with him. If he wasn't real, how many of you who have been
following the bullshit of the past year in regards to me and the JoS, think
I would still be sitting here typing?? How many powerful curses have been
thrown at me?? I can assure you all I am fine and quite happy. I also know
of a few enemies of mine who are fucking dead.
Satan and his Demons have suffered. It is an abomination and a blasphemy
that the organization that so blatantly uses his name denies him. This is
appalling. Also, charging people high membership dues and then booting them
out on a whim (this happened to a member of the JoS of whom the CoS accused
of "Devil worship") is bullshit.
*****
High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org
From: lord.kayle <lord.kayle@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 11:21:46 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Becoming a true Satanists
I've been reading here for quite a while now - I know I started about 2 years ago but lately a lot more the last 3 months.
Last night I just read the Satanic Bible for the very first time.
I actually found that I really enjoyed it and agreed with it, and don't remember reading anything that specifically disagrees with
anything I've learned or read yet here either.
Except for the further clarification and information from High Priestess Maxine regarding the Enochian chants and here warnings
as to NOT use circles when invoking & evoking demons, and HamShemphorash - not to use it.
So as for the vast majority of things which LaVey wrote and believed
I am not aware - except for one big major difference here we believe in Satan and his demons as real actual existing beings which we can have relationship with.
As far as any other specific things I can't think of any that I know of, or recall seeing in the Satanic Bible but would greatly appreciate it if somebody knows and can explain more.
~ Hail Satan! ~
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[email protected][/url], "abdullahrasheed666" <wormwood1689@... wrote:
I'm sure if you read the Satanic Bible you understand that Anton LaVey and his church are materialist atheists, correct? Have you read the JOS site? If you have you'll see that we disagree with the vast majority of the things that LaVey wrote and believed.
IF you want a deeper understanding of our spiritual Satanism, then please read the Joyofsatan site. Especially the headings "Satan", and "Spiritual Satanism."
Hail Satan.
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[email protected][/url], "darkblaze930" <lewiserron@ wrote:
I can't say that I'm really a Satanist. Actually, until recently I considered myself an atheist. However, deep inside I've always felt that there was more to life than just the physical- that which we can see, feel and touch. After reading the Satanic Bible I felt compelled to learn more about Satanism. The book seemed to reflect a lot of what I myself thought about Christianity and other denominations. Therefore, I joined this group to obtain more information about Satanism.
I would like to learn more from an experienced Satanist. Looking forward to hearing from members of the Satanic community.
Hail Satan!
