Astro "Criticism" Thread

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

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Damn now that you mention it, this site can also be used to promote the Joy of Satan, I mean this is the ver first tool and application from the Joy of Satan, when people who are into Astrology, see this, chances are actually very good they will read the site and spread the word.

Yes this can also be advertised without too much problems unlike other sites.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

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Damn now that you mention it, this site can also be used to promote the Joy of Satan, I mean this is the ver first tool and application from the Joy of Satan, when people who are into Astrology, see this, chances are actually very good they will read the site and spread the word.

yes for sure. anyone i know who is interested in astrology is going to get linked to this. also a good idea to put it in forums that are into astrology like in Gab including the groups we already posts, i also know parts of 4chan have a place for this. there are other astrology forums on reddit and other places as well, quora etc.

 

[13th_Wolf]

Okay, I'm an astrology buff, and over the last 10+ years have spent a lot of time on many free websites and apps. I was excited to see the jos have their own astro website, but when I visited I was disappointed to see the lack of features and content. No real insight into the self is gained. No advice or guidance on how to use the energy of the soul to your benefit or how to overcome things. These are things any astro site would provide for free. No descriptions of aspects or anything. Just a birth and transit calculator.

"No real insight"

Well, do share then. Generally its a given reality that you have to be able to understand what's in of yourself, of your own self and accord rather than reading a bunch of "facts" about things from books, not doing that and instead compiling them together in a finicky way, getting increasingly and increasingly stressed out as you have to pilfer through a jumble of disarranged factoids which might occasionally link together on the off-chance. I don't think its a given here, that the site is made for people who's minds operate on that level. You must be one of the bricks in the wall that Pink Floyd made songs about.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Not even that but I wrote to Hidden Warrior on the Astrology board, the great value of having precious astrological data of Zevism on our own database that is tied to the Joy of Satan family, instead of lingering in the reach of the enemy. This individual has done a massive service and any comment on their work should open with only the utmost praise, coming from people of Satan that use astrology to learn about themselves. This is the beginning of something endlessly more glorious than "astrodienst" which the creation of that was guided under a reductive judeo-xian lens as per every system in the rapidly decaying enemy paradigm.

Everyone here is snubbing you right now, not whatever played out in your head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTgme55AeWI https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/iggypop/isnubyou.html

>I snub you
And when I snub
I really snub
I snub you finally, forever

There is no real database being used in anyway. The code that you do, generates in inverse the chart from scratch. It was a demand to keep the privacy factor on the highest.

We are also open if any programmer wants to check this, maybe Soaring Eagle 666 could get into this or some other established member to check this.

There is no need for any data saved or anything like this.

 

[Soul Wings]

We are not ganging up on you, we are just trying to get through to you in the best way we know how. I don't have a problem with you personally at all. I think the fact that you've acknowledged you're outnumbered here in terms of discussion means (hopefully) you know deep down something's wrong with the intent of the thread, therefore the line of thinking. Perhaps you might think everyone's jumping in because a HP did, but we're all actually individual people that see something wrong here, and we're just pointing it out. We're not a hive mind, that's ridiculous and cultish.

I know it's not fun emotionally having your internal thoughts spurned by a community you love but this is the nature of discussion and forums. I know that you'll reflect on it because you seem intelligent and you do have the ability to think clearly. I hope that you can learn and grow from this discussion. Take it easy.

 

[13th_Wolf]

Not even that but I wrote to Hidden Warrior on the Astrology board, the great value of having precious astrological data of Zevism on our own database that is tied to the Joy of Satan family, instead of lingering in the reach of the enemy. This individual has done a massive service and any comment on their work should open with only the utmost praise, coming from people of Satan that use astrology to learn about themselves. This is the beginning of something endlessly more glorious than "astrodienst" which the creation of that was guided under a reductive judeo-xian lens as per every system in the rapidly decaying enemy paradigm.

Everyone here is snubbing you right now, not whatever played out in your head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTgme55AeWI https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/iggypop/isnubyou.html

>I snub you
And when I snub
I really snub
I snub you finally, forever

There is no real database being used in anyway. The code that you do, generates in inverse the chart from scratch. It was a demand to keep the privacy factor on the highest.

We are also open if any programmer wants to check this, maybe Soaring Eagle 666 could get into this or some other established member to check this.

There is no need for any data saved or anything like this.

Even better then. I suppose a database would be something potentially necessary only at a later point if and when there is a suggestion of a physical gathering. But I can see it causing issues given certain things.

I'm not a programmer but I know a little about coding and had an interest in it for a while. Not enough to check though, I could provide some wacky ideas on the astrology side though lol.

 

[SleepingWolf]

I don't think I'll finish reading all the stuff this guy is writing. Who does that to their own community. :roll: It's like a relative opening a food stall on the streets and you start trashing them, saying how it sucks because it's not a restaurant.

I want to again thank everyone who was involved. I personally understand how significant this is and can't wait to help it grow however I can over the next few years. I also can't wait to send each of you some positive runic energy through the Gods that will help each of you wherever in your lives it is needed. If I had Bitcoins I'd send them.

HAIL SATAN!
HAIL APOLLO!

As an astrologer yourself and also future astrologer for the JoS I would really like to see a full opinion on this and what features you think would be additionally needed.

Agreed. I've also had paid computer generated readings, and they were USELESS CRAP compared to what's on the JoS. I was so happy to receive a reading from HPS Pythia back in the day, I finally felt like I knew myself and the bad things in my chart, as opposed to the useless crap from the other websites.

In order to learn astrology, one thing that really helps is to go over charts of other people (famous people in history is what I did a lot of, as well as relatives and friends), and see what is what. Not reading free resources from online websites (except for Azazel's Astrology on JoS). So many lies, new-age crap, and random things that don't apply. And this is what Eric13 has "learned", lol.

I can see this site is very well made and more useful for experienced astrologers, but can there be tools for helping those new properly learn it? As Lydia said, seeing it done I think would be super helpful. I've read through the entire Azazels Astrology on our site, and for some reason it's just very hard to get the finer points like predictions, or transits. I try to wrap my head around this, and feel like I'd just need to see someone who actually knows what they're doing give a full reading on sample charts from others.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who is a very visual learner, but it's really hard to wrap my head around all Azazels Astrology in text. I need to see it in action or practice to really learn something, and if I'm not the only one, this feature would help a lot of others.

 

[Blackdragon666]

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Old comment guys. We’ve already moved past it. Already apologized and tried to clarify my intentions. It was a hastily written reply. Should of explained better. Nonetheless. It’s in the past. No ill intent meant. Sorry.

Anyone else who wants to reply on the that comment and not read my clarification arguments that fallowed. What can I say? Say your piece, express yourself. I probably won’t reply. It’s too many. You probably won’t read this either so none of it matters really. You’re allowed to be angry. It’s understandable. I was using a technique that worked wonders for me. Apparently for those here it doesn’t work. Swing and miss.

I’ve never done anything to harm this community.

Aren't you the same guy who was called out for harassing women in emails? :roll:

No. I don’t email anyone. I mind my business. I don’t know where that came from. But thanks for helping spread that false rumor more. On top of everything else. It’s making my night much better. Thanks.

You know how you keep playing victim is very disgusting. You won't lose anything if you just genuinely accept that you were wrong, apologize and work to better your character. The fact that your resolve was to play victim when called out for being inconsiderate is very telling of how pathetic you are as a person.

And you know very well what I am talking about. That time you tried to slander HPZM, saying he has fishy agendas and that we shouldn't trust clergy. And it was revealed about your behavior towards a female member.
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=43537&p=187823&hilit=condescend#p187823

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

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love by the way how he totally exposed himself in that disgusting rat den today which i just saw, dissing you, HPS Pythia and JOS. looks like the Rituals did their job.

Funny, my guardian gives me dates at times as you know...today was one of these dates, predicted on thanksgiving. at first i thought it was just a reminder of yuletime, or the day of my next cycle (which yes came true). but then someone mentioned him to me today and i randomly eyed that rat sewer as i do from time to time to see if theres defectors or if they are trying to pull something...there he was exposing himself today. another so called Zevism that complained about being miserable after 15 years and having the Gods do nothing for them...i wonder why that is. here we are Commander, another rat on the pile. Good riddance.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news and happy yule

 

[Blackdragon666]

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love by the way how he totally exposed himself in that disgusting rat den today which i just saw, dissing you, HPS Pythia and JOS. looks like the Rituals did their job.

Funny, my guardian gives me dates at times as you know...today was one of these dates, predicted on thanksgiving. at first i thought it was just a reminder of yuletime, or the day of my next cycle (which yes came true). but then someone mentioned him to me today and i randomly eyed that rat sewer as i do from time to time to see if theres defectors or if they are trying to pull something...there he was exposing himself today. another so called Zevism that complained about being miserable after 15 years and having the Gods do nothing for them...i wonder why that is. here we are Commander, another rat on the pile. Good riddance.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news and happy yule

My intuition was always putting me on his case and this wasn't the first time I called him out. I actually think he's been with the Magestein crew all through and was part of the people who were subverting us. Watch out for folks who play professional victim for years, this is a favorite infiltrator tactic. Nobody cares about his worthless existence and he can keep spreading lies. When time to pay comes, they will all pay.

 

[Aquarius]

He was very strange, the energy I felt from him was negative, and as thus he was on my "not to take seriously" list.

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

I can't say I read every comment but why is it that every member who provides only ignorance has this notion that when HPZM replies he has to be some pseudo clergy who can say only New Age garbage instead of actually expressing his thoughts and feelings? It reminds me of an Xian expectation of the ideal priest.

This is like the third member in a few days who accuses our HP of "tearing members down" when the fact is he's just saying what is to be true.

 

[Hidden Warrior [SG]]

I learned of the existence of this thread only now.

I will not write much, because everything is already been said by many people.

As I stated when I first published the site, it is just the start. It was not rushed, I worked in a time span of almost 1 year and half; I work 40 hours a week (normal job), so all the work for the site has been done in my free time. I am not an expert of web development, in fact, I don't even like the front-end, but this was needed for our community. I got to study astronomy and trigonometry, how the houses are computed and many things that I am not listing here.

We had an astrology section, and now we have a site where people can apply this information.

Temple of Zeus now have its own astrology site, and it can only become better!!

HAIL ZEUS!
HAIL APOLLO!

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

I can't say I read every comment but why is it that every member who provides only ignorance has this notion that when HPZM replies he has to be some pseudo clergy who can say only New Age garbage instead of actually expressing his thoughts and feelings? It reminds me of an Xian expectation of the ideal priest.

This is like the third member in a few days who accuses our HP of "tearing members down" when the fact is he's just saying what is to be true.

Because snowflakes and people who just want their ego stroked don't care about and cant take criticism in any manner. These are the kind of people who will never advance. What people need to accept is that the things they need to hear are not always nice to hear. Trust me i know. And this is about improving anything in life at all. Any grown adult should have taken this to heart but we are surrounded by overgrown children these days.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

I can't say I read every comment but why is it that every member who provides only ignorance has this notion that when HPZM replies he has to be some pseudo clergy who can say only New Age garbage instead of actually expressing his thoughts and feelings? It reminds me of an Xian expectation of the ideal priest.

This is like the third member in a few days who accuses our HP of "tearing members down" when the fact is he's just saying what is to be true.

Because snowflakes and people who just want their ego stroked don't care about and cant take criticism in any manner. These are the kind of people who will never advance. What people need to accept is that the things they need to hear are not always nice to hear. Trust me i know. And this is about improving anything in life at all. Any grown adult should have taken this to heart but we are surrounded by overgrown children these days.

It's the people who are always toxic and can't take any criticism that do this. For example, this poster here, was being purely toxic with having nothing to offer. Criticism was accepted and was brought under inspection to see if it's valuable.

Turns out, it was just an emotional spiel of jealousy and hatred against basically the creator of the project.

This behavior was revealed after logical analysis in that they have nothing to say and that isn't objective opinion was shown, but rather bias [shown later why, they were into a bullshit thing with others against the forum and even the Gods].

When this didn't stand, they started whining they were getting "put down", while all they were trying to do was put others down all the time.

Then they drop the mask like Eric did and they go fully against anyone and anything, including the Gods they supposedly were "defending".

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

I can't say I read every comment but why is it that every member who provides only ignorance has this notion that when HPZM replies he has to be some pseudo clergy who can say only New Age garbage instead of actually expressing his thoughts and feelings? It reminds me of an Xian expectation of the ideal priest.

This is like the third member in a few days who accuses our HP of "tearing members down" when the fact is he's just saying what is to be true.

Because snowflakes and people who just want their ego stroked don't care about and cant take criticism in any manner. These are the kind of people who will never advance. What people need to accept is that the things they need to hear are not always nice to hear. Trust me i know. And this is about improving anything in life at all. Any grown adult should have taken this to heart but we are surrounded by overgrown children these days.

It's the people who are always toxic and can't take any criticism that do this. For example, this poster here, was being purely toxic with having nothing to offer. Criticism was accepted and was brought under inspection to see if it's valuable.

Turns out, it was just an emotional spiel of jealousy and hatred against basically the creator of the project.

This behavior was revealed after logical analysis in that they have nothing to say and that isn't objective opinion was shown, but rather bias [shown later why, they were into a bullshit thing with others against the forum and even the Gods].

When this didn't stand, they started whining they were getting "put down", while all they were trying to do was put others down all the time.

Then they drop the mask like Eric did and they go fully against anyone and anything, including the Gods they supposedly were "defending".

Yes its exactly these types with this pattern. Too bad that they most of the time don't really change. Then again those are the ones that do not last anyway.

 

[Stormblood]

Every time this user was reminded of something he said or did, he was always like "You're confusing me with someone else", "I never did that", or something like that. Typical behaviour for people like this who barely meditate or do not meditate at all.

 

[Jack]

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In the Calendar of 2022 in January information box , it is stated that since Venus will be retrogade till January 29th. But on the 17th it states its a date for love magick. Is this an error ?

 

[Sketches]

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In the Calendar of 2022 in January information box , it is stated that since Venus will be retrogade till January 29th. But on the 17th it states its a date for love magick. Is this an error ?

I think it's because it's Moon in Cancer, which also amplifies workings of love magick, but yes, that doesn't mean you can do love spells until Venus is no longer retrograde.


Hoping that no new Zevism mistake it as a sign to do a love spell, especially since it's in Esbat. They might think they'll miss an opportunity and rush in a spell if they don't know the influence of Retrograde Planets.

 

[NinRick]

I learned of the existence of this thread only now.

I will not write much, because everything is already been said by many people.

As I stated when I first published the site, it is just the start. It was not rushed, I worked in a time span of almost 1 year and half; I work 40 hours a week (normal job), so all the work for the site has been done in my free time. I am not an expert of web development, in fact, I don't even like the front-end, but this was needed for our community. I got to study astronomy and trigonometry, how the houses are computed and many things that I am not listing here.

We had an astrology section, and now we have a site where people can apply this information.

Joy Of Satan now have its own astrology site, and it can only become better!!

HAIL SATAN!
HAIL AZAZEL!

This literally made me smile widely!

 

[Desdemona_666]

Pretty much everything has been said in this thread, but I have to add than normie astrologers sugarcoat things too much.

I have looked at many interpretations of non Zevism astrologers, and rarely anyone of them will be honest. Maybe they don’t know how to be honest, maybe that is the way they have been taught.

But no aspect, placement, no matter how bad is a concern for them. None of them will look you into the eyes and tell you “ok, you are screwed up, I am sorry I have to tell you this”.

JoS is different. There is no sugarcoating. Just pure truth. When things are bad, they are bad. When things are good, they are good. No lies, no delusions. Just the truth.

And for everyone who was involved in this, you did amazing work. Thank you so much.

 

[Blackdragon666]

I think we can add return charts. Like a tool that calculates return charts for any planet. While the Solar and lunar returns are most important, I have seen Venus Returns act as wonderful tools for prediction. In one case I examined, the individual's Venus Return for the period they got married has Mercury ruling the 7th house of marriage at 0° of Libra.

0 of Cardinal signs shows an important beginning in the affairs of the house involved. 0° of Libra is also an important degree for signifying the start of a major love commitment. This Mercury was also in conjunction with the vertex, an axis that has to do with love.

Some Astrologers also use Jupiter and Mars Returns, Mercury Returns and so on. We can add all these with time.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

I think we can add return charts. Like a tool that calculates return charts for any planet. While the Solar and lunar returns are most important, I have seen Venus Returns act as wonderful tools for prediction. In one case I examined, the individual's Venus Return for the period they got married has Mercury ruling the 7th house of marriage at 0° of Libra.

0 of Cardinal signs shows an important beginning in the affairs of the house involved. 0° of Libra is also an important degree for signifying the start of a major love commitment. This Mercury was also in conjunction with the vertex, an axis that has to do with love.

Some Astrologers also use Jupiter and Mars Returns, Mercury Returns and so on. We can add all these with time.

Agreed! I keep forgetting to check my other-planetary returns because it is not easy and convenient.

I once had a Mercury return in a Solar return, HPS Pythia told me it was going to be an important year for learning, and it was also significant for the houses ruled by my natal Mercury.