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[Helleniser]

I performed the dedication ritual yesterday, but it was far from perfect because I couldn't cut my finger. I have anxiety, and just bringing the needle or lancet close to my finger causes me to panic. I tried anyway, but I couldn't even get a single drop of blood. During the ritual, I felt sad that I couldn't get any blood and felt like too much of a failure for the Gods to accept me.
After the ritual, I didn't feel anything different—no words in my mind, no strange animal behaviors, and I didn't notice anything unusual. The sky did clear up from cloudy to sunny, but I think that was just a coincidence. Even so, I'm still trying to cope with all of this.
Should I try the ritual again? Should I try it in the astral plane this time?

Yes, you can do it in the astral plane.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I performed the dedication ritual yesterday, but it was far from perfect because I couldn't cut my finger. I have anxiety, and just bringing the needle or lancet close to my finger causes me to panic. I tried anyway, but I couldn't even get a single drop of blood. During the ritual, I felt sad that I couldn't get any blood and felt like too much of a failure for the Gods to accept me.
After the ritual, I didn't feel anything different—no words in my mind, no strange animal behaviors, and I didn't notice anything unusual. The sky did clear up from cloudy to sunny, but I think that was just a coincidence. Even so, I'm still trying to cope with all of this.
Should I try the ritual again? Should I try it in the astral plane this time?

The only thing that matters are your intentions. The Gods understand everything about your situation, everything about your emotions and intentions and goals. It is known what you are trying to do, and it is known how strongly you wish for this. There is nothing to worry about. You are accepted and you did not do anything wrong. The Gods recognize you.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Think of it this way. The Dedication is perfectly valid when it is done mentally/astrally. And what you did is physically more than that, and still with all of the same mental focus and intention.

 

[dorime]

Think of it this way. The Dedication is perfectly valid when it is done mentally/astrally. And what you did is physically more than that, and still with all of the same mental focus and intention.

Thank you so much. I was feeling really down, and your words brought me a lot of comfort. Today, I went through a pretty tough moment in my personal life, but despite everything, it all worked out. Seeing your words now, I think maybe the Gods were with me.

 

[AFODO]

Thank you so much. I was feeling really down, and your words brought me a lot of comfort. Today, I went through a pretty tough moment in my personal life, but despite everything, it all worked out. Seeing your words now, I think maybe the Gods were with me.

Have zero doubts, the dedication is about stating to the Gods that you are with them, any material part is just symbolic. If you are so anxious you can repeat it, the Gods will understand both, if you repeat it or not, but again, you are dedicated.

 

[Chris64redemption]

I look forward to answering any questions anyone may have. Truth and knowledge are the foundation of this path of which I relentlessly enforce.

How does Satan reveal himself to those who are traumatised? I had a tumultuous childhood and have become quite hermit like

 

[SatyaSitamanas]

I am a bit unclear about this:

In regards to our birth charts, they aren't a "death sentence" so to speak, right? From my readings on the website and the forums, I'm of the understanding that our birth charts are insights into how we could or may be, giving us a customized "cheat sheet" of ourselves showing areas we may struggle in or possible unwanted outcomes we may want to do workings on to prevent them coming to fruition

So, if we know that AND we are Zevists, then we know we are given tools by the Gods to subvert negative outcomes from being fulfilled, and that we have freewill to give ourselves the best opportunities to advance ourselves and humanity and reach Godhead. Is that correct?

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A very close friend of mine who I deeply love and respect, and is a longtime practitioner of Zevism, has made me question my understanding of astrology and birth charts. They treat birth charts (verbally and by example "it says you are this, so you are this") as final word without any possibility of deviation, like a "death sentences" of sorts. I'm starting to question this because in my understanding of Zevism, we can change anything with the tools the Gods have given us. If I believed what was in my chart was final and could never be changed, why would I practice Zevism at all? The Gods want us all to achieve Godhead, right? How could we do that if we believed we are the negative traits our charts said we may have?? Is that even possible to achieve?? (Godhead but without advancing).

In my opinion, this is a shallow interpretation and fatalist attitude of ourselves/outcomes and a hindrance for our advancement and reaching Godhead. Even me as a new initiate (less than 6 months) I have experenced transformations beyond my own shallow interpretations of who I thought I was destined. I tried to change, for at least 15 years, but the only thing that made a difference was using the tools the Gods gave us. The workings under trance have been working incredibly well for me and I am so thankful to the Gods, GD's, HP's, HPS's, and TG's for their wisdom and this portal to exhange ideas and gain insight to help us advance.

• Can it coexist that a Zevist believes we are unchangeable, that we are destined to be every negative trait our chart says we may be? That we become what we think we are (good or bad) and believing that we can be another way is futile? How can those ideas exist WHILE being a praciting Zevist, when our ethos believes in advancing our soul/humanity in hopes to reach Godhead? Im scratching my head as I wrote that. The fatalist attitude my loved one has leaves me confused and concerned.
• If we believed we can not advance from our birth charts, then what would be the point of praciting Zevism?? What does one practice in Zevism if they've given up on the idea that they can be more than what their chart says? Do they focus on external things like instead of doing workings for advancing their own soul, do they focus on advancing humanity or external workings on other people for instance? Wouldn't they also be working harder and not smarter?
• What if they have done personal workings but still have the problems listed in their birth chart? Instead of accepting that as unchangeble, how can one redirect the self back to clearing dross, to be open to an understanding that maybe their workings would be more successful if they fully cleared their dross??
• Isn't there a correlation between successful workings and clearing your dross? Like, if you have a lot of dross and haven't gotten rid of it, and are focusing on external workings instead of inward, wouldn't there be a lower success rate of their workings and/or having to do a lot more work to have the same outcomes of someone without dross? In theory at least. I hope that makes sense!
• What do you think holds people back from accepting or even entertaining feedback from outside perspectives? We don't have to believe everything we read or hear, but we can certainly take it and question it. We can take feedback as a point of reflection (not definition!) because it may have been presented to us for our benefit.

Thanks ya'll! I appreciate the discussion

 

[Henu the Great]

I am a bit unclear about this:

In regards to our birth charts, they aren't a "death sentence" so to speak, right? From my readings on the website and the forums, I'm of the understanding that our birth charts are insights into how we could or may be, giving us a customized "cheat sheet" of ourselves showing areas we may struggle in or possible unwanted outcomes we may want to do workings on to prevent them coming to fruition

So, if we know that AND we are Zevists, then we know we are given tools by the Gods to subvert negative outcomes from being fulfilled, and that we have freewill to give ourselves the best opportunities to advance ourselves and humanity and reach Godhead. Is that correct?

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A very close friend of mine who I deeply love and respect, and is a longtime practitioner of Zevism, has made me question my understanding of astrology and birth charts. They treat birth charts (verbally and by example "it says you are this, so you are this") as final word without any possibility of deviation, like a "death sentences" of sorts. I'm starting to question this because in my understanding of Zevism, we can change anything with the tools the Gods have given us. If I believed what was in my chart was final and could never be changed, why would I practice Zevism at all? The Gods want us all to achieve Godhead, right? How could we do that if we believed we are the negative traits our charts said we may have?? Is that even possible to achieve?? (Godhead but without advancing).

In my opinion, this is a shallow interpretation and fatalist attitude of ourselves/outcomes and a hindrance for our advancement and reaching Godhead. Even me as a new initiate (less than 6 months) I have experenced transformations beyond my own shallow interpretations of who I thought I was destined. I tried to change, for at least 15 years, but the only thing that made a difference was using the tools the Gods gave us. The workings under trance have been working incredibly well for me and I am so thankful to the Gods, GD's, HP's, HPS's, and TG's for their wisdom and this portal to exhange ideas and gain insight to help us advance.

Your friend is correct inasmuch as when a person does nothing concerning spirituality, that is, most people out there. Concerning those people, yes, they are at the mercy of their fate and of others who are into spirituality, be it us or the enemy. Zevists, however, are in another position, given that they practice what ToZ presents. There are Zevists, and then there are "Zevists", mainly in name only, not different from people in the category of "believe and you shall be saved". In reality, we are saved (and doomed) by our actions (or lack of them).

• Can it coexist that a Zevist believes we are unchangeable, that we are destined to be every negative trait our chart says we may be? That we become what we think we are (good or bad) and believing that we can be another way is futile? How can those ideas exist WHILE being a praciting Zevist, when our ethos believes in advancing our soul/humanity in hopes to reach Godhead? Im scratching my head as I wrote that. The fatalist attitude my loved one has leaves me confused and concerned.

Your friend is mistaken, unfortunately.

• If we believed we can not advance from our birth charts, then what would be the point of praciting Zevism?? What does one practice in Zevism if they've given up on the idea that they can be more than what their chart says? Do they focus on external things like instead of doing workings for advancing their own soul, do they focus on advancing humanity or external workings on other people for instance? Wouldn't they also be working harder and not smarter?

I honestly do not know. Such people clearly have not understood what this path is about.

• What if they have done personal workings but still have the problems listed in their birth chart? Instead of accepting that as unchangeble, how can one redirect the self back to clearing dross, to be open to an understanding that maybe their workings would be more successful if they fully cleared their dross??

Tough question, because I can not imagine anything else, but having the tools at hand to shape one's life as one sees fit. Perhaps these people need to tune into their Guardian for more guidance. They are always right in comparison to us.

• Isn't there a correlation between successful workings and clearing your dross? Like, if you have a lot of dross and haven't gotten rid of it, and are focusing on external workings instead of inward, wouldn't there be a lower success rate of their workings and/or having to do a lot more work to have the same outcomes of someone without dross? In theory at least. I hope that makes sense!

Yes, absolutely.

• What do you think holds people back from accepting or even entertaining feedback from outside perspectives? We don't have to believe everything we read or hear, but we can certainly take it and question it. We can take feedback as a point of reflection (not definition!) because it may have been presented to us for our benefit.

Lack of experience, being young, be it in the corporeal form, or in spiritual terms (younger soul), comes to mind. Arrogance of some sort, perhaps, it can be subtle as well.