Ardgion said:Blackdragon666 said:You need to be in a very deep trance, where you can't even feel your body. That's when the chances are high of succeeding. Also, keep practicing daily as you'll definitely get there. It's not a logical/mechanical process as you're pretty much following the right procedure. You said you felt energies which is a positive indication you're going somewhere. The goal is to move the astral body and if you can feel it, you're doing great already. You just need to be consistent and patient with yourself.Ardgion said:So today I tried to astral project for the first time and man, I don't know if I am stupid or what, but how the heck do you "leave your body"? XD
I was meditating for over an hour so I was in, well I can say deep trance.
I tried both methods, one that is on the JoS website where i close chakras and turn them clockwise and the other method from the pdf file called "Treatise on Astral Projection" by Robert Bruce.
While I was in trance and tried to "exit" I tried to slowly lift my arms in attempt to exit and I felt massive energies in my hands so I continued.
After a while I realised I was only lifting my hands and the energies stopped.
Can someone explain the process to me as I honestly have no idea how to do this. XD
Appreciate all the help.
Alright, thanks for clearing this up. Constant practice is the key. I tried today and same happened. Seems like I will need to practice more on going into much deeper trance but still not sure how to do that.
I can get to the point where I can't feel my body but my mind is still pretty much active so I assume I just have to keep going till my mind is completely blank.
Anyways, will continue with this as I find it really fun and amazing to do.
Appreciate the help.
Trance does not = void/mindfulness.
And void/mindful does not = trance.
Both are mutually exclusive. From what people have replied to me sometimes but not always a trance isn't a pure quietness of thoughts. Certainly if you get deep there is a cessation of chatter. But not always.
Although I don't have practical experience with trance nor got anywhere with void besides a few moments of thought suspension.
I have come to research this stuff and it seems like sometimes when in a trance for people their thoughts continue sometimes being used as guided meditation.
Void/Mindfulness CAN lead to a trance but just because it may induce SOME thing it doesn't mean your putting your effort to trance.
The way to trance deeper is to perform what your performing in entering a trance and then fall backward in your mind to induce an altered state.
But sometimes diving too deep doesn't let you experience the more milder experiences of trance and you might miss out on education of altered states. So for example say you didn't go too deep. But you went well, there could be clues as to your depth.
Everything you described on Astral projection is spot on. Many have stated it feels so real pulling their leg out or arm out that it feels the same as real life.
Just be prepared for the big end of the World so to speak aspect. Many have reported like they are going to explode with energy or everything is loud like a chaotic scene of cacophony of sounds.
I believe that's the cue for an exit about to happen.
Remember it's about putting your body to sleep and your mind awake. Much akin to lucid dreamers who can "enter" their dreams. AP is similar your just transferring your consciousness to your astral body.
Other techniques are found in Robert Bruce's book like the rope or ladder or some other exit projection method.
