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WEASZX said:
Angels and Demons are the same species. Angels are typically weaker than the Goetic Demons. You can think of the angels as a different political party to the Demons, and that they participate in civil war. All Demons regardless if they are human friendly or not (some of the nongoetic demons are hostile to humans) have strong ties to Satan, but Im not sure exactly how. Apparently Demons are created by Satan, but I'd argue they are probably "modified" by him. So therefore, "not of Satan" cannot be a Demon, and thus extremely likely to be your enemy. There are politically neutral third parties at work, these are rare but you should be cautious of them too.

The angels are typically gentile hating, so no I doubt a gentile would be able to summon an angel as intended. The enemy have rituals in order to make requests to the angels, not sure if they work or not.

If youre ever attacked, itll most likely be by a thoughtform or a grey, as the reptillians and angels are quite arrogant and see themselves above humans. The greys however are drones, probably enslaved/created by the reps a long time ago.

This is more info than you asked, thought I'd include it anyway.

WEASZX

is raphael friendly ?
 
SerLorars13 said:
imsouglysatanhelpme said:
what are angels exactly and can you call them like demons ?
Angels are thoughtforms, condensed packages of programed energy.
Mental energy
 
WEASZX said:
Angels and Demons are the same species. Angels are typically weaker than the Goetic Demons. You can think of the angels as a different political party to the Demons, and that they participate in civil war. All Demons regardless if they are human friendly or not (some of the nongoetic demons are hostile to humans) have strong ties to Satan, but Im not sure exactly how. Apparently Demons are created by Satan, but I'd argue they are probably "modified" by him. So therefore, "not of Satan" cannot be a Demon, and thus extremely likely to be your enemy. There are politically neutral third parties at work, these are rare but you should be cautious of them too.

The angels are typically gentile hating, so no I doubt a gentile would be able to summon an angel as intended. The enemy have rituals in order to make requests to the angels, not sure if they work or not.

If youre ever attacked, itll most likely be by a thoughtform or a grey, as the reptillians and angels are quite arrogant and see themselves above humans. The greys however are drones, probably enslaved/created by the reps a long time ago.

This is more info than you asked, thought I'd include it anyway.

WEASZX
False. Demons are ascended mortals and angels are Astral robots.
 
Shrekelstein said:
The JoS site must be wrong too, right?
Yes, some things on there are wrong. There are some mistakes and outdated incorrect information.


My belief is that there are no enemy Nordics, or if there are it is an extremely small and insignificant percentage. And what it really is is a grey projecting an image into your mind that looks like a Nordic, so you will think it is a Nordic. They have this ability to do this. Just like how the Rat pretends to be human, but really it is Rat.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Shrekelstein said:
The JoS site must be wrong too, right?
Yes, some things on there are wrong. There are some mistakes and outdated incorrect information.


My belief is that there are no enemy Nordics, or if there are it is an extremely small and insignificant percentage. And what it really is is a grey projecting an image into your mind that looks like a Nordic, so you will think it is a Nordic. They have this ability to do this. Just like how the Rat pretends to be human, but really it is Rat.

A better example of enemy shapeshifting is skinwalkers in native american folklore(Maxine covered this once if I remember correctly). I see you mentioned some form of "skinwalkers" on the Shapeshifting post from feb 2019. https://ancient-forums.com/posting.php?mode=quote&f=3&p=187995

Also this guy you quoted keeps spreading false information. Every one of his posts has had false information and he usually answers new members and spreads mis-information. Obviously the older members call them out for their delusions and tell them the truth but I would be very careful of them. They may not be spreading mis-information out of ignorance but instead out of a desire to mis-lead and harm new members.
 
darkpath said:
HP made it clear!

And here's where I disagree with the HP:

darkpath said:
There are other humanoid looking races but people throw it all on the same bucket and call them "Nordics". These are hostile to us or neutral.

There are many human-looking races, but the only ones who are called Nordics are the blond-haired blue-eyed tall ones. The word Nordic implies a person from the Nordic countries, Sweden, Denmark and Norway. These aliens are named Nordics because they look like those people: blond-haired, blue eyed and tall.

darkpath said:
We knew about the angels being thoughforms since 2005, it's of the basics of the JoS.

HP Cobra joined JoS as a regular member in 2009 and became a HP in late 2013. How can he possibly know what happened "since 2005"? Some proof of that, here's the clergy page from October 2013 and HP Cobra's name isn't listed:

http://web.archive.org/web/20131030135954/http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/JoSClergy.html

but is listed in this page from February 2014:

http://web.archive.org/web/20140209001800/http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/JoSClergy.html

The pages from JoS I posted are from 2005-2006 (look at the copyright below) and mention angels being Nordics.
 
Shrekelstein said:
darkpath said:
HP made it clear!

And here's where I disagree with the HP:

darkpath said:
There are other humanoid looking races but people throw it all on the same bucket and call them "Nordics". These are hostile to us or neutral.

There are many human-looking races, but the only ones who are called Nordics are the blond-haired blue-eyed tall ones. The word Nordic implies a person from the Nordic countries, Sweden, Denmark and Norway. These aliens are named Nordics because they look like those people: blond-haired, blue eyed and tall.

darkpath said:
We knew about the angels being thoughforms since 2005, it's of the basics of the JoS.

HP Cobra joined JoS as a regular member in 2009 and became a HP in late 2013. How can he possibly know what happened "since 2005"? Some proof of that, here's the clergy page from October 2013 and HP Cobra's name isn't listed:

http://web.archive.org/web/20131030135954/http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/JoSClergy.html

but is listed in this page from February 2014:

http://web.archive.org/web/20140209001800/http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/JoSClergy.html

The pages from JoS I posted are from 2005-2006 (look at the copyright below) and mention angels being Nordics.

I think we should ask HP!
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Shrekelstein said:
The JoS site must be wrong too, right?

My belief is that there are no enemy Nordics, or if there are it is an extremely small and insignificant percentage.

Isn't that how it all started though? Satan wanted us to be perfect just like them and some of the Nordics didn't want us to be immortal so a conflict began. Which would also imply that they are immortal as well and powerful enough to not be annihilated by our gods outright.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Powerofjustice said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
My belief is that there are no enemy Nordics, or if there are it is an extremely small and insignificant percentage.

Isn't that how it all started though? Satan wanted us to be perfect just like them and some of the Nordics didn't want us to be immortal so a conflict began. Which would also imply that they are immortal as well and powerful enough to not be annihilated by our gods outright.
Some other creatures didn't want us to be powerful. Meaning the evil creatures we already know about, the greys and reptilians.

I don't understand the urge to call our own species, the nordics, traitors and criminals against ourselves.

"There was not such a 'schism' between beings of a same origin"

I also have the opinion that there are no enemy nordics.


Now think of it as a god-like race who are incredibly advanced in every field, quarreling with each other, or at war?
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Powerofjustice said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
My belief is that there are no enemy Nordics, or if there are it is an extremely small and insignificant percentage.

Isn't that how it all started though? Satan wanted us to be perfect just like them and some of the Nordics didn't want us to be immortal so a conflict began. Which would also imply that they are immortal as well and powerful enough to not be annihilated by our gods outright.
Some other creatures didn't want us to be powerful. Meaning the evil creatures we already know about, the greys and reptilians.

I don't understand the urge to call our own species, the nordics, traitors and criminals against ourselves.

Not to be the one to burst your bubble but:

-"Satan and his Demons are here to help us get out from under the position of being used as energy livestock in a slaughterhouse for alien consumption. The enemy Nordics who saw no use for humanity, following the completion of the mining project, sought to follow a plan and have us all destroyed. The “Nephilim” that "took wives" and taught humanity, such as Azazel and Set, were banished, cursed and condemned."

This is one of many sermons which mention Nordics and the separation that occurred between them. Goes to show you some beings will do anything in the world to help you grow and advance while others want to dispose of you when you no longer serve a purpose.


Source: https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Aliens.html
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Shrekelstein said:
The JoS site must be wrong too, right?
Yes, some things on there are wrong. There are some mistakes and outdated incorrect information.


My belief is that there are no enemy Nordics, or if there are it is an extremely small and insignificant percentage. And what it really is is a grey projecting an image into your mind that looks like a Nordic, so you will think it is a Nordic. They have this ability to do this. Just like how the Rat pretends to be human, but really it is Rat.
It makes no sense how a Nordic being, one of the finest species out there, would join forces with Reptilian scum because of being butt hurt over humans.
 

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