Arcadia [NG]
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Great post. A lot of this was greater confirmation of what I knew or anticipated, but there'll be a lot of people who are going to be asking these questions due to the alien topic being so visibly mainstream in recent weeks, so it was rightly timed.
At the same time I do appreciate your slight hesitancy in talking about these particular topics. You've usually been right in saying that even the slightest tidbit of knowledge regarding the status quo regarding the enemy or the state of our galactic neighborhood usually fuels endless gossiping and people just making stuff up from hours on end.
Mind you, it's only natural that people are fascinated by this subject, even if knowledge on the subject is only so helpful given the current situation we're facing and dealing with right now. Like I said, measured caution with the unveiling of information has been wise. The lure to go full Star Trek on these topics is truly tempting for some.
I'd actually been discussing the nature of the enemy with some friends lately, and of course certain questions arise. One of the things I had to explain was the notion that there's not necessarily any clear separation between the enemy and its AI. They'd be so interdependent by this point that it'd be borderline indistinguishable. All the same, being able to explain who the enemy is by using the concept of an AI or a program was helpful in their understanding of how a race could fall so far and be so, in our eyes, malevolent. Not that the program perceives itself as such, as it can really only understand the benefit of its own propagation, with any deviation being simply illogical. On the lower levels this binary manifests as the Abrahamic holy/unholy dichotomy. You got this very obviously with Zoroastrianism, literally everything in that system was classified and ranked as holy or unholy, with many things being completely arbitrary.
All in all, these ideas have been fairly easy to swallow over time, given some of my earlier experiences. My Guardian, earlier on, gave me witness to the thoughtform in the astral itself. An awful experience to be sure, but it was still an important one. Thing is, even then, with more limited senses, I still knew nothing felt natural about it. It felt, even to me then, like an artificial construct, something wholly unnatural.
I remember a few people hypothesizing in the past that the rise and onset of the reptillian program coincided with some sort of galactic cataclysm way back when. I think this was an interesting idea. It was sort of chicken-and-the-egg though, as people were aware of this race's fall, and as such were attributing this to some sort of disaster, when the advent of such an AI would be more than enough of a disaster in and of itself, meaning any sort of other disaster would be unnecessary. A race can architect its own doom, without being aided by any sort of other cataclysm, after all.
To chime in on the other relevant topic, the whole enemy Nordics thing always smelled like bunk to me. Mostly I figured it was a relic of the day people were still tuning into Sitchin. Sure, 20 odd years ago I couldn't really blame people for doing that, as there wasn't really much other research on the topic. But we're here in the now, and its good for these ideas to be discarded by this stage. We aren't the only beings in the neighborhood who look more or less like we do. From my understanding there's likely several near-human races that we partly know of. Not to go too much into elaborate sci-fi discussions here, but I recall a discussion about the "Arcturians" at some stage, they themselves not looking all too distant from ourselves. From my recollection they weren't allied with the enemy, but were simply otherwise neutral to our existence. Point remains though, no doubt a lot of races have had individuals "borg'd" at some stage or another, but I doubt any were on a mass scale equivalent to what are now the Greys.
As a sort of final point, if I had to speculate, something like the enemy program, in the context of the universe's overall history, was likely doomed to eventual failure and defeat. An AI program, like itself, cannot really evolve past a certain point, only grow outward. With the universe's limitless potential in mind, a race's whos own biological potential has been limited and hamstrung was eventually going to get outpaced by its adversaries, ie, our Gods. It's simply more a question of when, and how much the damage this program causes is minimized.
At the same time I do appreciate your slight hesitancy in talking about these particular topics. You've usually been right in saying that even the slightest tidbit of knowledge regarding the status quo regarding the enemy or the state of our galactic neighborhood usually fuels endless gossiping and people just making stuff up from hours on end.
Mind you, it's only natural that people are fascinated by this subject, even if knowledge on the subject is only so helpful given the current situation we're facing and dealing with right now. Like I said, measured caution with the unveiling of information has been wise. The lure to go full Star Trek on these topics is truly tempting for some.
I'd actually been discussing the nature of the enemy with some friends lately, and of course certain questions arise. One of the things I had to explain was the notion that there's not necessarily any clear separation between the enemy and its AI. They'd be so interdependent by this point that it'd be borderline indistinguishable. All the same, being able to explain who the enemy is by using the concept of an AI or a program was helpful in their understanding of how a race could fall so far and be so, in our eyes, malevolent. Not that the program perceives itself as such, as it can really only understand the benefit of its own propagation, with any deviation being simply illogical. On the lower levels this binary manifests as the Abrahamic holy/unholy dichotomy. You got this very obviously with Zoroastrianism, literally everything in that system was classified and ranked as holy or unholy, with many things being completely arbitrary.
All in all, these ideas have been fairly easy to swallow over time, given some of my earlier experiences. My Guardian, earlier on, gave me witness to the thoughtform in the astral itself. An awful experience to be sure, but it was still an important one. Thing is, even then, with more limited senses, I still knew nothing felt natural about it. It felt, even to me then, like an artificial construct, something wholly unnatural.
I remember a few people hypothesizing in the past that the rise and onset of the reptillian program coincided with some sort of galactic cataclysm way back when. I think this was an interesting idea. It was sort of chicken-and-the-egg though, as people were aware of this race's fall, and as such were attributing this to some sort of disaster, when the advent of such an AI would be more than enough of a disaster in and of itself, meaning any sort of other disaster would be unnecessary. A race can architect its own doom, without being aided by any sort of other cataclysm, after all.
To chime in on the other relevant topic, the whole enemy Nordics thing always smelled like bunk to me. Mostly I figured it was a relic of the day people were still tuning into Sitchin. Sure, 20 odd years ago I couldn't really blame people for doing that, as there wasn't really much other research on the topic. But we're here in the now, and its good for these ideas to be discarded by this stage. We aren't the only beings in the neighborhood who look more or less like we do. From my understanding there's likely several near-human races that we partly know of. Not to go too much into elaborate sci-fi discussions here, but I recall a discussion about the "Arcturians" at some stage, they themselves not looking all too distant from ourselves. From my recollection they weren't allied with the enemy, but were simply otherwise neutral to our existence. Point remains though, no doubt a lot of races have had individuals "borg'd" at some stage or another, but I doubt any were on a mass scale equivalent to what are now the Greys.
As a sort of final point, if I had to speculate, something like the enemy program, in the context of the universe's overall history, was likely doomed to eventual failure and defeat. An AI program, like itself, cannot really evolve past a certain point, only grow outward. With the universe's limitless potential in mind, a race's whos own biological potential has been limited and hamstrung was eventually going to get outpaced by its adversaries, ie, our Gods. It's simply more a question of when, and how much the damage this program causes is minimized.