A Working To Reduce Sleep Requirements

[Stormblood]

Every process can be enhanced. Harder, better, faster, stronger applies to all processes, to the one you mentioned as well.

This working is totally reasonable when we talk about a person used to 6 to 8 hours of sleep reducing this time by 1 to 2 hours, or even up to by 3 hours given that this person would spend time in trance during the day. Anything below that is not reasonable long term. No need to "eat for hours". I think the aspect of needing to sleep and that the affirmation on OP is not reasonable were already addressed, but if not, it should be clear that no one is talking about being sleepless or sleeping for less than 5 hours.

I agree with that but I was not aware that some people need working to sleep 5 hours a night. If you need it, then sure.

 

[Henu the Great]

One last thought if I may be so bold, I am aware that Zevism are expected to pick themselves up, but to be completely honest, what is the chance that some Zevism could send energy to brutally busy Zevism in need to get them better jobs or get them out of any such demanding situations, so that those struggling Zevism could be of more use to JoS? Perhaps such workings already exist, such as the Rituals that give prosperity to Satanists, etc. Some of us are desperate, and are short enough on time that we don't even have the time to think of whether or not we dare to ask...I'm sorry, I mean plead for help. Someone posted at some point that no one has any excuse, that they used to work 80+ hours a week and still did all their spiritual practice. This makes people like me feel bad. I'm not going to lie, I've been giving Satan an earful of praying, asking for help, apologizing for venting, being frustrated. I've felt like an animal in a corner. But again, I myself may have hope as stated before, as my time has actually just recently been more freed up. This applies mainly to other Zevism in general who are even more in the trenches than myself. And really quite honestly, I'm in need of a break-out from this, the job is stressful, I know, I've said as much a dozen times already.

When we do the blessing group rituals, we usually do this: join in when it comes around next time.

And short routine could look something like this:

2x 5min cleaning per day
2x 5 min protection per day
3 rep f-Ritual
10 min void
5min chakra spin
Pick a handful of asanas, and do all of them for 30-60sec only, savasana cut down to 5 min at the end. On this forum Lydias chakra yoga series is a good source to pick asanas from. Add mantra for chakra when you do the asana, and you have some extra empowerment too.

This would take something like an hour or so depending how much time you spend on yoga.

 

[Sunny]

For sleep no such system is provided, nor are there Gods that do not sleep.

Mate, what?
I am so certain that Gods do not sleep - or rather, they do not *need* sleep, but could do so if they wanted to. The same goes for food.

I can't remember where I had read it, so I'm not going to quote any HPs with this... But I am 100% sure that they do not require sleep like we do... Perhaps they'd need 5 hours a week (however long "a week" is on their planet) - who knows? But surely not like we humans...

I believe it's only natural for any Zevism who meditates and works and has other hobbies as well, to wish to decrease their hours of sleep. And I also believe it's only natural for us to eventually reach the point when we WON'T need sleep - at least not as much as we do now. Doing a working to reduce 1 to 3 hours, with an affirmation that includes everything (about our bodies getting enough rest, and all the other sleep activities being done in a quicker manner while sleeping - in a positive way for us) it's just ideal for a more productive life.

Unless one is forced to dedicate only 2 hours daily on meditations, and reach Godhood when they are 500 years old...
Time is running.

Are you sure about what you say about the Gods? Have they confirmed it to you?

 

[Henu the Great]

Another thing that he (and everyone else) has to take in to consideration is the effect of karma. Whatever our situation is, it's caused by an effect. One should first apply spiritual method for clearning karma (freeing of the soul workings), and after that do the working(s) to attract something. That ensures maximum effectiveness.


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[स त न म]

So technically what happens during sleep is a change in the wavelength of brainwaves correct? During a sleep cycle there are different stages, each stage corresponding to a particular brainwave wavelength. So technically if you are able to achieve those brainwave frequencies during meditation then that should cover for sleep no? I also remember hearing from a yogi that if you are in a deep enough meditative state (samadhi) for long enough then that can substitute for sleep. I'm not just believing him randomly but that makes sense no?

 

[Stormblood]

So technically what happens during sleep is a change in the wavelength of brainwaves correct? During a sleep cycle there are different stages, each stage corresponding to a particular brainwave wavelength. So technically if you are able to achieve those brainwave frequencies during meditation then that should cover for sleep no? I also remember hearing from a yogi that if you are in a deep enough meditative state (samadhi) for long enough then that can substitute for sleep. I'm not just believing him randomly but that makes sense no?

It is a bit more complex than that. The way I understand it is that you need to be unconscious for a portion of the day. It's part of human nature. You swing from activity (rajas) to inactivity (tamas). There's a particular balance between the two that needs to be kept. This is unique for each individual but falls within a general human range (according to modern science that is no less than 5 hours and no more than 9, unless you are unwell). Only after ida and pingala have fully merged and integrated, this balance is altered.

How it becomes, I do not know because I haven't experience that stage yet. And I am doubtful of everyone who claims they did, especially if their behaviour and thinking patterns are still bipolar, rather than holistic/unified. My ASSUMPTION is that you could go into a deep meditative state when you are at that stage and further, but you will have to consciously guide EACH and EVERY process that happens during sleep. Or you could just sleep, you know.

Anyway, it is nearly impossible for most stay conscious during epsilon and delta ranges anyway. I doubt any yogi who has achieved sleep mastery is going to make it known to the public.

 

[Ariadne the Scribe]

Are you sure about what you say about the Gods? Have they confirmed it to you?

No, I don't really waste their time with asking them about things like that.
But I 100% remember having read it from here (from HPs most likely BUT I can't remember at all a specific source, so I can't cite anyone of them) and it also makes 100% sense to me...

Can you imagine how powerful they are? So much more spiritually advanced than us. It only makes sense. I remember I used to do this meditation that involved a whole lot of sun/moon breathing - and it totally filled in my hunger. Even if I was hungry before doing this meditation, after doing it I wouldn't be hungry for hours.

I am also certain (again, without being able to prove it ) that it's also possible to not need sleep if we were to reach the Gods' level.
Doesn't it just make sense?

 

[Sunny]

Are you sure about what you say about the Gods? Have they confirmed it to you?

No, I don't really waste their time with asking them about things like that.
But I 100% remember having read it from here (from HPs most likely BUT I can't remember at all a specific source, so I can't cite anyone of them) and it also makes 100% sense to me...

Can you imagine how powerful they are? So much more spiritually advanced than us. It only makes sense. I remember I used to do this meditation that involved a whole lot of sun/moon breathing - and it totally filled in my hunger. Even if I was hungry before doing this meditation, after doing it I wouldn't be hungry for hours.

I am also certain (again, without being able to prove it ) that it's also possible to not need sleep if we were to reach the Gods' level.
Doesn't it just make sense?

It makes sense but to do such things correctly requires both spiritual and physical understanding.

For example that corrupt Hindu thing of not eating meat in order to advance spiritually is a useless and harmful thing.