The Gods #80346 If it is impossible to change one's gender, is it possible to be born a woman through divine power?

Hello, you already answered your question in the beginning. And no, you don't have to be a woman to have good ethics and to help people men do it too, you just need to focus on the right people.

You want to think logically about a subject that you can't even understand? There is no ''science'' of the soul in modern science, you need to become an initiate to learn from it. Like Zeus did, as you will progress you will understand how it works. No Zeus never was a woman, nor any men will be one. And any women will become a man.

Meditate and work to develop your feminine brain.

I think any kind and highly ethical person would like to become a woman and help people.

You can help people regardless who you are, gender/sex doesn't make any difference. Every person can access both his male and female sides at will because both are in him. Only men who are suffering from the autogynephilia disorder want to physically become women. Just be honest with yourself.

Why then did Zeus engage him in an argument, and how could he know the answer if he wasn't a woman in the physical sense?

Who did Zeus engage in an argument with? Is it about some allegorical myth that you obviously didn't understand?

And yes, normies misunderstand many myths which are allegories. You have to be well-read on esoteric subjects to understand them. Just like xians telling Asatru Pagans that Loki is "trans".

Androgyny was always allegorical in all mythologies, they meant to represent balanced male and female sides, just like gods with animal heads were not literal half-animals but had somewhat of the characteristics of that animal like the strength of the lion if that God had a lion's head for example. And certainly no myth mentions any god cutting off his penis because he thought he was a woman. If he did that he wouldn't be a god but a mentally ill and unbalanced man.

As others have said this post delusionally idealizes women as mortal women are far from perfect and can inflict severe abuse and damage to people even if it isn't most of the time violent or physical. Yes we all have both polarities within. Sometimes the opposite polarity is more dominant, this is seen in a minority of people, but it does not change that you are always the same sex throughout all lifetimes.

Let's be honest – I don't know, 99% of people here don't. 99.9% of everyone anywhere doesn't.There are numerous studies on reincarnation, but they lack official evidence, and many of them are quackery.JoS/ToZ's position on this issue has changed over time; research is ongoing, and there's no definitive, 100% answer. Many here are simply expressing their opinions and desires.Regarding gender reassignment, it's not possible in the current reality – all gender reassignment surgeries and hormonal drugs will simply castrate you; you won't become a woman. If you simply have fetishes, that's one thing. Embrace them and enjoy them, knowing your limits – harming your health isn't worth it.

Let's be honest – I don't know, 99% of people here don't. 99.9% of everyone anywhere doesn't.There are numerous studies on reincarnation, but they lack official evidence, and many of them are quackery.JoS/ToZ's position on this issue has changed over time; research is ongoing, and there's no definitive, 100% answer. Many here are simply expressing their opinions and desires.Regarding gender reassignment, it's not possible in the current reality – all gender reassignment surgeries and hormonal drugs will simply castrate you; you won't become a woman. If you simply have fetishes, that's one thing. Embrace them and enjoy them, knowing your limits – harming your health isn't worth it.

The body is a denser manifestation of the soul. So no, it is not possible to alter one's sex without altering the very essence of oneself. And by doing so, one would not be the same, but a different being altogether.

Can you show examples where the stance of ToZ has changed over time about this subject?

The body is a denser manifestation of the soul. So no, it is not possible to alter one's sex without altering the very essence of oneself. And by doing so, one would not be the same, but a different being altogether.

Can you show examples where the stance of ToZ has changed over time about this subject?

I don’t think it’s about transgenderism, but it was said in Sumerian writings that Inana had the power to turn men into women and women into men.

Could this be a symbolic meaning of Astarte balancing the masculine/feminine energies in men and women who are too masculine/feminine?

I don’t think it’s about transgenderism, but it was said in Sumerian writings that Inana had the power to turn men into women and women into men.

Could this be a symbolic meaning of Astarte balancing the masculine/feminine energies in men and women who are too masculine/feminine?

I am not an expert, but it very well could be. It surely does not mean it in the literal sense, as with mythology in general.

JoS/ToZ's position on this issue has changed over time;

I remember some writings from the past about this topic, and the position of ToZ is the same as now.

I remember some writings from the past about this topic, and the position of ToZ is the same as now.

I once asked a question: at what age do you exist in the afterlife? The one in which you died (obviously, it's better to die young than a frail old man) or in your prime, or what? The answers varied widely, and no one gave me a clear answer. Personally, I liked the answer that said the soul can take any form it desires in the subtle world.

The body is a denser manifestation of the soul. So no, it is not possible to alter one's sex without altering the very essence of oneself. And by doing so, one would not be the same, but a different being altogether.

Can you show examples where the stance of ToZ has changed over time about this subject?

I'm not specifically talking about gender reassignment during reincarnation—as far as I know, there have been no official responses from priests on this topic, and it wasn't discussed in sermons. I was referring to the question of the afterlife, the question of reincarnation—let's say, initially, most souls were devoured by the Grays, the Collectors. Satan saved those who were loyal to him and provided refuge in Hell, where we could await the next incarnation in comfort and well-being and gradually become gods. Now we have four dimensions, increasingly leaning toward Greek beliefs about the afterlife, in a little more detail and with additions from other religions. This is a rather significant shift in ideas about the afterlife, in my opinion. Regarding your lot in this life - your position was given to you for a reason, if you were born a man - then you must live your life as a man, this does not prohibit you from various fetishes or strange sexual practices - but a change of gender is impossible and this is equivalent to the fact that you were born a man, without wings, you cannot fly - you should not jump from a mountain as some Hindu recently did - believing that he could fly, those who change their "gender" - are essentially doing the same to themselves and indulging in this is a sick thing, and there is no definitive answer as to whether a human being can be reborn as a different gender.

I'm not specifically talking about gender reassignment during reincarnation—as far as I know, there have been no official responses from priests on this topic, and it wasn't discussed in sermons. I was referring to the question of the afterlife, the question of reincarnation—let's say, initially, most souls were devoured by the Grays, the Collectors. Satan saved those who were loyal to him and provided refuge in Hell, where we could await the next incarnation in comfort and well-being and gradually become gods.

There is a big assumption here, and it is that most souls would be devoured by hostile forces, which, to my understanding, is borne of members' fears aboutthe afterlife, not based on logic. If there are sermons explicitly stating this, can you link them? We should not forget that the four crowns rule supreme of the cosmos, which means that they are ultimately responsible for each individual according to the merits of each individual. And also, what are Greys? They do not possess power over these forces; they are tools of higher powers, be it their masters, which are ultimately ruled by even higher forces.

and there is no definitive answer as to whether a human being can be reborn as a different gender.

This is like saying that your soul is not a definitive thing when in reality it very much is.

I'm not specifically talking about gender reassignment during reincarnation—as far as I know, there have been no official responses from priests on this topic, and it wasn't discussed in sermons. I was referring to the question of the afterlife, the question of reincarnation—let's say, initially, most souls were devoured by the Grays, the Collectors. Satan saved those who were loyal to him and provided refuge in Hell, where we could await the next incarnation in comfort and well-being and gradually become gods. Now we have four dimensions, increasingly leaning toward Greek beliefs about the afterlife, in a little more detail and with additions from other religions. This is a rather significant shift in ideas about the afterlife, in my opinion. Regarding your lot in this life - your position was given to you for a reason, if you were born a man - then you must live your life as a man, this does not prohibit you from various fetishes or strange sexual practices - but a change of gender is impossible and this is equivalent to the fact that you were born a man, without wings, you cannot fly - you should not jump from a mountain as some Hindu recently did - believing that he could fly, those who change their "gender" - are essentially doing the same to themselves and indulging in this is a sick thing, and there is no definitive answer as to whether a human being can be reborn as a different gender.

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It's been said many times here that we reincarnate as the same race gender and species throughout each lifetime and the same goes for even animals. The body is the manifestation of the soul meaning the frequencies our energies consist of make the blueprints of what manifests in the physical when we are born. None of these frequencies that determine any of the above will change.

No gender won't change.

I know people go thru a lot to "change their gender" but there is still things about their body that in the end would show gender that can't be changed -some can but either the surgeries don't exist yet or are dangerous. Some bone things can be changed but by doing that you are not only mutilating your body at it's structure but leaving evidence behind that your changing things- some parts can't be changed. Plus you also still have your DNA which when pulled from the bone marrow or tooth pulp will tell your gender and that can't be changed.
I understand wanting to feel better in your own body but some things only make that worse.
I don't know personally why some people feel like they are in a different body though with it being such an issues and something seen in other cultures across different times. There are surely some reasons for it. So I hope that those people find safe ways to feel better about themselves.

Hail Father Zeus

There is a big assumption here, and it is that most souls would be devoured by hostile forces, which, to my understanding, is borne of members' fears aboutthe afterlife, not based on logic. If there are sermons explicitly stating this, can you link them? We should not forget that the four crowns rule supreme of the cosmos, which means that they are ultimately responsible for each individual according to the merits of each individual. And also, what are Greys? They do not possess power over these forces; they are tools of higher powers, be it their masters, which are ultimately ruled by even higher forces.

This is like saying that your soul is not a definitive thing when in reality it very much is.

Okay, what about hermaphradites? They really exist and are born with fully functional, healthy characteristics of both sexes. I watched the show, and I can't vouch for its 100% accuracy, but it was fairly scientifically neutral and filmed before all the LGBT hype. I also heard from real-life acquaintances (it wasn't a joke)—so what's wrong with these people's souls? Are they also both male and female? These people are also castrated in childhood, without their consent, by decision of their parents and doctors, to prevent future social problems.

It's been said many times here that we reincarnate as the same race gender and species throughout each lifetime and the same goes for even animals. The body is the manifestation of the soul meaning the frequencies our energies consist of make the blueprints of what manifests in the physical when we are born. None of these frequencies that determine any of the above will change.

No, don't think I'm asserting anything; I'm just generally skeptical. I absolutely love the idea that I'll always be born a white, handsome, and healthy male—it's literally the greatest stroke of luck one can have in the universe's lottery. But I think these are just words, just faith—there's no direct evidence for this. Personally, I can't remember my past life. I tried using a pendulum and had some generally logical results, but I can't 100% confirm their authenticity. If one of the meditating members could prove they remembered their past reincarnation, I think ToZ would easily have amassed a billion members in a couple of months, as that would be a colossal scientific discovery.

Many will now say that this is all just a historical allegory to connect with their dual side of the soul, but let's be honest and think logically. Why then did Zeus engage him in an argument, and how could he know the answer if he wasn't a woman in the physical sense? Okay, let's say through clairvoyance, but then why ask him about it if Zeus could have done it himself?

The human Souls are also "male" and "female" as well as the physical bodies. It's the same with most animals, this is simply how nature is and acts.

I think any kind and highly ethical person would like to become a woman and help people.

Women don't help people in different ways than men do or vice-versa. Anyone, male or female, can "help people".

Okay, what about hermaphradites? They really exist and are born with fully functional, healthy characteristics of both sexes. I watched the show, and I can't vouch for its 100% accuracy, but it was fairly scientifically neutral and filmed before all the LGBT hype. I also heard from real-life acquaintances (it wasn't a joke)—so what's wrong with these people's souls? Are they also both male and female? These people are also castrated in childhood, without their consent, by decision of their parents and doctors, to prevent future social problems.

Unfortunately, genetic freaks occur, and the reason does not have to be that they are both male and female at the same time, but that something along the way went awry. The specific reasons, I can only speculate, but the roots are spiritual, as they are with everything else.