Bad karma involving sex. How to advance

[Isisd]

I've been seriously messed up during the last year, trying to convince myself that the modern concept of sex is right. I simply can't. It is especially worse when I think about my partner. I can't physically and mentally bare the thought that my future wife and mother of my children has been penetrated by another male. This has nothing to do with insecurity or comparison, I can assure I can sexually please women, and I never compare myself to others nor I have complexes in this regard. It's more like a "ownership" and traditional thing. I think that's the best way I can explain it. In my family the man took the virginity of the wife, always been that way. I would literally be the first in my family to ever marry a deflorated woman. I know that these are bad and out dated things to write and could be offensive to some sisters here, and I wanna overcome it. It's not a recent thing, I've always been that way. I recall that even when I was a child, when a joke about my mother or father cheating or having another partner in the past came up (and I'm talking about jokes cause they're a happy couple) I would literally go furious. Don't come at me with some christianity programming crap (I didn't have any), as if hellenic and roman pagan men didn't value the purity and virginity of a woman if they wanted to take her as a wife. Castity was considered a divine virtue for women in the mores maiorum. I know that we are in 2025 and that there is nothing bad if a woman has had other partners before his husband, and that this doesn't make her a less valuable human being. I know that obsessing over some potential partner's sex life is creepy. I'm well aware. I just have to adapt to this century and society, and in order to do so I have to point the problem up. It's like a part of my soul, the part that revolves around sex and marriage, comes from another century. Maybe it's something about some positions in my natal chart? Or maybe a past life influence? Maybe there are specific workings you could suggest. I want to ascend over this.

 

[HPS Lydia]

It's only the past centuries with xianity/islam that chastity was claimed to be important. It wasn't like this in the Ancient days. Even most Queens and Empresses had lovers before they married the King/Empower, some even had illegitimate children before marriage; peasants also had lovers before marriage. All social classes understood that sex was normal and not taboo.

Virginity was never seen to be essential until fairly recently in history, even in the 1600's-1800's even noblewomen (royalty, lesser royalty, etc) had sex before marriage. And as I wrote before, the "holy roman emperor" allowed his daughters to have non-marital sex because he refused them to get married, and he fully provided for their illegitimate children.

It is only this past while that people are so messed up regarding sex. This has caused a huge swing to vulgar promiscuity everywhere, which then also causes people to become psychologically triggered to thinking nobody should ever have sex until marriage. The enemy pushes to both extremes, preventing normal balance.

It goes against nature to refuse to have sex until marriage. People fall in love or have very strong attraction, they shouldn't need a religious/government paper to do what was always considered natural.

 

[OrionKrieger]

Its alright to feel this way but here’s some things that i wanna point out. You can’t have “ownership” of a woman, that’s just simply not possible. And if your partner loves you, what’s the deal here? You can’t control if people have had sex before you, and even if they did, they would still settle for a person they truly love. The same thought process happens to females, and if the both of you can get along and truly understand each other i don’t see why you would be worried.

I agree that the modern concept of sex is absolutely horrid, and its not the act itself, its the stuff surrounding it. But here’s the thing, it doesn’t have to be a bad thing. A person that has had sex before doesn’t automatically make them unfaithful or possibly make them unfaithful in the future, that’s a childish way to think.

 

[Hárbarðr]

Don't come at me with some christianity programming crap (I didn't have any), as if hellenic and roman pagan men didn't value the purity and virginity of a woman if they wanted to take her as a wife. Castity was considered a divine virtue for women in the mores maiorum.

Only certain priestesses had to be virgins in ancient times, not average women. The idea that the average woman has to be a virgin if she isn't married is xian.

 

[Isisd]

It's only the past centuries with xianity/islam that chastity was claimed to be important. It wasn't like this in the Ancient days. Even most Queens and Empresses had lovers before they married the King/Empower, some even had illegitimate children before marriage; peasants also had lovers before marriage. All social classes understood that sex was normal and not taboo.

Virginity was never seen to be essential until fairly recently in history, even in the 1600's-1800's even noblewomen (royalty, lesser royalty, etc) had sex before marriage. And as I wrote before, the "holy roman emperor" allowed his daughters to have non-marital sex because he refused them to get married, and he fully provided for their illegitimate children.

It is only this past while that people are so messed up regarding sex. This has caused a huge swing to vulgar promiscuity everywhere, which then also causes people to become psychologically triggered to thinking nobody should ever have sex until marriage. The enemy pushes to both extremes, preventing normal balance.

It goes against nature to refuse to have sex until marriage. People fall in love or have very strong attraction, they shouldn't need a religious/government paper to do what was always considered natural.

Only certain priestesses had to be virgins in ancient times, not average women. The idea that the average woman has to be a virgin if she isn't married is xian.

I am sorry, but this is simply untrue. This wasn't the point of my thread, but I'll go with it anyways. In ancient pre-christian Rome and in Ancient Greece (I don't know about other ancient civilizations, but I'm getting a degree on these two) women had to be virgins and untouched before marriage. It was not simply about morality, it was law. If you were an aristocratic, noble, middle class, poor, it did not matter. Only slaves and prostitutes practiced promiscuity, since they didn't literally have any right to marry a roman man or whatsoever. This doesn't mean that roman and greek pagan civilizations oppressed sexuality nor viewed it as dirty and bad, like xians. Sex and fertility were sacred, hailed, but for women they were celebrated WITHIN the marriage, and that's it. The priestess you are referring to are the Vestals, their virginity till the age of 40 was their prerogative for a religious purpose, because, again, castity for women was sacred and a divine virtue. You didn't see men priestly classes with the obligation of virginity. Of course, this has had very fiew exceptions during the course of history, but generally it was like that. Of course, with women in power, like empresses and queens, the things were, clearly, different. A lot of empresses had to marry multiple times for a matter of power security and allegiance with other forces. But this is an expetion, reffering to the 1% of the female population.
Of course, divorce then became thing, a divorced woman could re-marry under certain conditions, but these are, again, few exceptions. They didn't have such thing as a "divorce rate" like our degenerated society.

 

[Aquarius]

Only certain priestesses had to be virgins in ancient times, not average women. The idea that the average woman has to be a virgin if she isn't married is xian.

That's a lie. Virginity has to do with the purity of the soul, the cleanliness of it. Not if the person had sex.

 

[Hárbarðr]

That's a lie. Virginity has to do with the purity of the soul, the cleanliness of it. Not if the person had sex.

The priestesses I am talking about took a vow of chastity and weren't allowed to marry or have sex until they finished their service. They were virgins in the way we mean it now, chaste, no sex. They were buried alive if anyone found out they had sex.

In Ancient Rome, the Vestal Virgins achieved power most women were denied – but at great cost

The inviolability of Vestals was predicated on their virginity, which entirely defined their social powers. The control of their sexuality was synonymous with the welfare and politics of the state.

theconversation.com

You might have heard of a group of women in Ancient Rome known as the “Vestal Virgins”. These female virginal guardians of the sacred flame of Rome could be buried alive for breaking their vows of chastity. Sure, this is a terrible way to go. But! They had power, prestige, privilege, popularity! So, who were these women, and how did they get such cachet?

Known to the ancient Romans as the virgines Vestales, the Vestal Virgins were a religious collegium (priesthood) made up at any one time of six females. These women took vows of virginity for 30 years in order to serve in the cult of Vesta, ancient goddess of the hearth. Following their 30 years of service, they were allowed to leave the priesthood and marry, although most would remain.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

The priestesses I am talking about took a vow of chastity and weren't allowed to marry or have sex until they finished their service. They were virgins in the way we mean it now, chaste, no sex. They were buried alive if anyone found out they had sex.

In Ancient Rome, the Vestal Virgins achieved power most women were denied – but at great cost

The inviolability of Vestals was predicated on their virginity, which entirely defined their social powers. The control of their sexuality was synonymous with the welfare and politics of the state.

theconversation.com

No real follower of a God or Goddess would take “vows of chastity”, these are misinterpretations of history, it was allegory to absolute spiritual purity. This has been mentioned by our High Priests. Any person who would take vows of chastity is bound to turn insane and twisted like the xian popes and their obsessions with pedophilia and rape.

Let alone any spiritual person, the Kundalini serpent is extremely sexual in nature and needs an active and healthy sexual life and expression, the first step to the kundalini energy rising is to pass by the Sacral Chakra which is blocked by sexual repression, no healthy sexual outlet with an active kundalini would destroy a person, stuck in the first stages too.

So I don’t care the sources or links you post, the fact you believe something like this was factually true is pretty stupid.

This has been mentioned that cults of Ishtar or other Goddesses as well took vows of chastity or did castration. This is all 100% pure bull.

 

[Aquarius]

The priestesses I am talking about took a vow of chastity and weren't allowed to marry or have sex until they finished their service. They were virgins in the way we mean it now, chaste, no sex. They were buried alive if anyone found out they had sex.

In Ancient Rome, the Vestal Virgins achieved power most women were denied – but at great cost

The inviolability of Vestals was predicated on their virginity, which entirely defined their social powers. The control of their sexuality was synonymous with the welfare and politics of the state.

theconversation.com

Of course they would mate. This random website + a person who believes all they read on the web is the result of the things you're saying.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

No real follower of a God or Goddess would take “vows of chastity”, these are misinterpretations of history, it was allegory to absolute spiritual purity. This has been mentioned by our High Priests. Any person who would take vows of chastity is bound to turn insane and twisted like the xian popes and their obsessions with pedophilia and rape.

Let alone any spiritual person, the Kundalini serpent is extremely sexual in nature and needs an active and healthy sexual life and expression, the first step to the kundalini energy rising is to pass by the Sacral Chakra which is blocked by sexual repression, no healthy sexual outlet with an active kundalini would destroy a person, stuck in the first stages too.

So I don’t care the sources or links you post, the fact you believe something like this was factually true is pretty stupid.

This has been mentioned that cults of Ishtar or other Goddesses as well took vows of chastity or did castration. This is all 100% pure bull.

That’s also besides no true Gods of any pagan pantheon would want this, they would be repulsed by this, chastity is anti-human and anti-life.

Greys, reptilians or jews however would order this as a must, because of how anti-life it is.

It doesn’t take much to look at any xian or mudslime to see how sexually depraved and insane they are.

 

[HPS Lydia]

I am sorry, but this is simply untrue

It is you who is mistaken, not I.

 

[Blitzkreig [TG]]

I am sorry, but this is simply untrue. This wasn't the point of my thread, but I'll go with it anyways. In ancient pre-christian Rome and in Ancient Greece (I don't know about other ancient civilizations, but I'm getting a degree on these two) women had to be virgins and untouched before marriage. It was not simply about morality, it was law. If you were an aristocratic, noble, middle class, poor, it did not matter. Only slaves and prostitutes practiced promiscuity, since they didn't literally have any right to marry a roman man or whatsoever. This doesn't mean that roman and greek pagan civilizations oppressed sexuality nor viewed it as dirty and bad, like xians. Sex and fertility were sacred, hailed, but for women they were celebrated WITHIN the marriage, and that's it. The priestess you are referring to are the Vestals, their virginity till the age of 40 was their prerogative for a religious purpose, because, again, castity for women was sacred and a divine virtue. You didn't see men priestly classes with the obligation of virginity. Of course, this has had very fiew exceptions during the course of history, but generally it was like that. Of course, with women in power, like empresses and queens, the things were, clearly, different. A lot of empresses had to marry multiple times for a matter of power security and allegiance with other forces. But this is an expetion, reffering to the 1% of the female population.
Of course, divorce then became thing, a divorced woman could re-marry under certain conditions, but these are, again, few exceptions. They didn't have such thing as a "divorce rate" like our degenerated society.

Poor relationship behaviors and unmet needs are the true cause of high divorce rates, not the act of sex itself. Someone who is insecure or unable to maintain a stable relationship is going to have problems regardless of whether sex is involved or not.

As an example, the type of woman who only goes for "Chad" and does not think about long-term compatibility had made an error in her judgement prior to the sexual engagement, not as a result of it.

Sex is a creative force tied directly to spiritual advancement. It is also one of the strongest, if not the strongest force; it cannot be repressed with positive consequences.

People keep pointing to chastity as if you get some shiny silver star after serving a 10 year term of no sex, but they are not able to actually define or explain this in any Zevist sense. Yet, many Zevists have direct experience with sex magick and the gains one can get through sexual activity. Here, the person advances through the connection of energies and resultant "birth" that arises.

If you have a safe and positive sexual partner who you are growing through with sexual activity, you do not suddenly become spiritually destroyed if you end up marrying someone else instead. Yes, someone could probe and ask why you did not marry the first person, given the high level of sexual bonding, but this again points to relationship behaviors, not the act of sex itself.

 

[Blitzkreig [TG]]

I've been seriously messed up during the last year, trying to convince myself that the modern concept of sex is right. I simply can't. It is especially worse when I think about my partner. I can't physically and mentally bare the thought that my future wife and mother of my children has been penetrated by another male. This has nothing to do with insecurity or comparison, I can assure I can sexually please women, and I never compare myself to others nor I have complexes in this regard. It's more like a "ownership" and traditional thing. I think that's the best way I can explain it. In my family the man took the virginity of the wife, always been that way. I would literally be the first in my family to ever marry a deflorated woman. I know that these are bad and out dated things to write and could be offensive to some sisters here, and I wanna overcome it. It's not a recent thing, I've always been that way. I recall that even when I was a child, when a joke about my mother or father cheating or having another partner in the past came up (and I'm talking about jokes cause they're a happy couple) I would literally go furious. Don't come at me with some christianity programming crap (I didn't have any), as if hellenic and roman pagan men didn't value the purity and virginity of a woman if they wanted to take her as a wife. Castity was considered a divine virtue for women in the mores maiorum. I know that we are in 2025 and that there is nothing bad if a woman has had other partners before his husband, and that this doesn't make her a less valuable human being. I know that obsessing over some potential partner's sex life is creepy. I'm well aware. I just have to adapt to this century and society, and in order to do so I have to point the problem up. It's like a part of my soul, the part that revolves around sex and marriage, comes from another century. Maybe it's something about some positions in my natal chart? Or maybe a past life influence? Maybe there are specific workings you could suggest. I want to ascend over this.

You are likely imaging that the impact of the taking of virginity, and the impression created on her soul, is larger than what you could create on your own afterwards. Yes, it still points to a feeling of insecurity in some way, although this does not have to be interpreted how left-wing people conceptualize this.

Since you mentioned ownership, this could point towards masculinity hangups as the root cause, but you will have to probe the feeling further. Yet, if it feels like it inhibits your ability to be her partner even outside of this, like she betrayed you, then that looks more like a Venus problem.