When did Feminism go bad?

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

The bad side of feminism will end on its own when both genders heal from trauma, stop being triggered so easily, and stop aiming all their hate and frustration onto the other entire gender. A lot of misogynists deliberately provoke women, which instigates feminism further.

Interestingly, feminists are advocating against the media using the phrase "toxic masculinity" because feminists believe masculinity in itself is not toxic. It's the media who says feminists are against masculinity.

People need to understand our Gods, and how They designed us to be. A lot of men simply don't understand that woman aren't supposed to be uneducated and silent all the time, they look to xian beliefs and think that's it. Our Gods highly value education and clear communication, and bonding and unity between the genders.

3rd wave feminism has a branch that views traditional feminine things as important as traditional masculine things, such as cooking and stitching, or motherhood, and has the idea that women do not have to be manly to be strong.

The only feminist I knew in real life was a happily married homemaker who completed her degree after her children graduated from school, and she cooked and knitted.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

I may get hate for this, but I believe artificial wombs will be very important in saving the European and East Asian races in the future. They're also a great and efficient way to have several children at once without any of the risks of preganancy and will allow women to continue in their careers without pregnancy getting in the way. Artificial wombs could allow a couple for example to have as many kids as they want/can afford within one year. There's a lot of women out there, possible millions, who don't want to get pregnant due to all the symptoms associated with it, but perhaps they still want children.

Saying all this a man who will never get pregnant, but logically, I see the merits of artificial wombs.

 

[Epiphany]

Excellent post, sister. This is what the community needs. I believe that it is women who know women's issues best and we need intelligent and high consciousness women to set the others on the right path. The same is also true for men.

 

[Epiphany]

Excellent post, sister. This is what the community needs. I believe that it is women who know women's issues best and we need intelligent and high consciousness women to set the others on the right path. The same is also true for men.

But there must also be harmony and cooperation between the two. The enemy has poisoned the well on all fronts, but with the Gods we can find the truth and return to our better natures and find a way to live together in a harmonious and complimentary way again.

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

I may get hate for this, but I believe artificial wombs will be very important in saving the European and East Asian races in the future. They're also a great and efficient way to have several children at once without any of the risks of preganancy and will allow women to continue in their careers without pregnancy getting in the way. Artificial wombs could allow a couple for example to have as many kids as they want/can afford within one year. There's a lot of women out there, possible millions, who don't want to get pregnant due to all the symptoms associated with it, but perhaps they still want children.

Saying all this a man who will never get pregnant, but logically, I see the merits of artificial wombs.

There should be nothing wrong with a woman taking time off from her career for pregnancy and taking care of an infant. It's healthy to take time off from job, and focus on preparing to be a mother. Most pregnant women love growing a baby inside them and focusing fully on "nesting".

Artificial wombs would be very wrong. The baby needs to grow in the mother. This is proper prana and qi circulation, not artificially. An artificial womb cannot direct love to a fetus to bathe in (this might sound weird but there's spirituality behind it). Our populations will rise when the government allows women (and couples) to be able to afford to have babies. Most women want 3-4 children, some want even more, they can easily increase our population if they can afford it.

 

[CatDoll]

Kusura bakmayın İngilizcem o kadar yeterli olmadığı için Türkçe cevap veriyorum.

Kendine ait bir odayı okuduğumda çok hoşuma gitmişti tam hatırlayamıyorum ama Virginia Woolf kendine ait bir odası ve biraz parası olduğu için erkeklerden bir şey beklemediğini cünkü ona verecek bir şeyleri olmadığını ve yine kendine ait odası ve parası olduğu için onlardan nefret etmediğini çünkü ona zarar veremeyeceklerini söylüyordu. Bu benim çok hoşuma gitmişti Ayrıca sanırım o da süfrajet hareketinin bir parçasıydı. 1. Dalga feminizmi Süfrajetler başlattılar, Amerika ve İngilteredeki kadınlara oy hakkı sağladılar. İlginç bir şekilde radikal feministler olarak geçiyorlar ama şu anki radikal feministler ''Erkekleri Doğrama Cemiyeti Manifestosu'' benzeri kitaplarla ilgileniyor. Sanırım o zaman için onlara radikal denmesinin sebebi protestoların şiddeti.

Emeline Panhurst'ün başlattığı bir hareket. Kendisi WSPU'nun da kurucusu ve kocası da ona cidden çok destek oldu, diğer tüm kadınlarla breaber zor şeyler yaşadılar.

Onları cadı gibi çizdiler, dillerini kesmeleri, çenelerini bağlamaları gerektiğini söylediler...Birinci dalga feminizm kadınlara haklar kazandırmaya odaklıydı. Bunun dışında bir sürü feminist ekol var. Bir çoğu erkeklerden nefret etmiyor. Birçoğu bir kadının evlenmesine karşı değil (Radikal feminizm hariç). Sanırım buna da seçim feminizmi deniyordu. Kadının seçimi esastı ama tam hatırlayamıyorum. Radikal feminizm ise bazen uygulamada gerekli olabiliyor.

Meşalelerinizi elinize almadan önce örnek vereyim: Güney Kore. Şuan Güney Koredeki erkekler fazlasıyla kadınları baskılıyor, standartlarıyla yıldırıyorlar. Kısa saçlı olmanın bile hedef haline geldiği bir ortam oluşmuş. Bu insanlara internet üzerinden sözlü ve fiziksel tacizde bulunuyor,tehtidler savuruyorlar. Bunun için de 4B hareketi başladı. 4 hayır anlamına geliyor. Araştırabilirsiniz. Erkekler muhafazakarlaştıkça kadınlar liberalleşiyor bunun istatistikleri vardı, ters tepiyor çünkü. Kadınlar onlara saygı duymayan erkeleri protesto ediyor ve onlarla etkileşime girmiyorlar bu olmalı ve gerekli. Anneler mutluysa herkes mutludur çünkü onlar toplumun bir yarısı. Tam tersi de geçerli babalar mutluysa da herkes mutludur onlar da toplumun öbür yarısı.

Feminizm kadınlar için önemli bir konumdayken herkes feminizmi kötülüyor. Neden bilmiyorum ama kadın sığınma evlerinin kapatılmasını isteyen insanlar bile var internette. Kimsenin bir arası yok. Kadınlara ya inanılmaz domestik roller biçiyorlar ya da tam tersi. Kimse bireysel olarak herkesin farklı şeyler isteyebileceğini ve herkesin farklı potansiyelleri olduğunu kabul etmiyor. Bu durumdan hoşnut omayan kadınlar selerini çıkarınca ya da birbirleri adına konuşunca FEMİNİST!!! diye tepki veriyorlar. Çifte standartlardan bahsedince şikayet ediyor, farklılıklardan bahsedince de sür*ük oluyorsunuz.

Çocuk istemiyorsanız kesin ömrünü 100 tane kediyle geçirecek bir insansınız ve akıl hastasısınız. 100 tane kedi istemek neden akıl hastalığı? Kime göre? Bunları kim belirledi? Annelik, çocuk ve doğurmak konusunda eğer doğum doktoru değilseniz ve erkekseniz fikir belirtmemeniz gerektiğini düşünüyorum. Buna da mensplaining deniyor karamın adı bu. Bu benim ereksiyon problemleri konusunda konuşmamla aynı şey, aynısı kadınlar için de geçerli.

Mesela Annem çalışıyor ve kardeşime ben bakıyorum. Elimden geldiğince duygusal ve fiziksel olarak onu ben beslemeye çalışıyorum. Ve eğer seçeneğim olsaydı yapmazdım. O sebeple çocuk istemiyorum. Çünkü bu sorumluluk bana ağır geliyor. Ama klavyanin arkasındaki bir adam size neden anne olmanız gerektiği hakkında konuşabiliyor. Yetmiyor, size saldırıyor e gerizekalı feminist idealleri takip etmeniz gerektiğini söylüyor. Bu sosyal hakların eksikliğinden kaynaklanıyor ama çözüm ne emin değilim.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

I would like to believe that, but many young women I know say they don't want to have any children. It also seems very common online that a lot don't want to have children either, mainly because they see the world getting worse and don't want to bring children into it, which is a point of view I understand but also a very dangerous idea for humanity. Just go on any video about the world's brith rate declining and you'll see swarms of female commenters saying they don't want to have children, mainly due to not wanting to "raise slaves for the billionaire class".

Governments have tried apparently a lot of solutions to fix the birth rate through financial incentives yet nothing seems to work because you can't pay a woman who doesn't want to have kids to have them.

Meanwhile women with far lower quality of life in parts of Africa and other places have 3-5 children or even more despite dealing with several hardships which women in first world countries aren't even facing a tenth of. Non-whites from those areas are even able to have several kids in the same countries the first world women live in despite living in quite a lowly state, even with welfare support. Their birth rate declines as the subsequent generations of women get "westernised" aka sterilised through lifestyle shift, which is also happening in the countries they're coming from.

The main problem is that a lot of women have been conditioned to not want to have kids, for several bullshit reasons, usually tied into marxist or utilitarian thinking as having children to maintain the bloodline or tribe have been stamped out, especially in the West, it's purely financial reasons that matter now, and those reasons aren't even that valid.

Also another reason low IQ women, regardless of race btw, have more children on average isn't really due to poverty but simply due to being bound to instinctual drives and it's likely not possible for them to be conditioned in the same way a 100 IQ woman can be.

It takes midwit-level IQ to "rationalise" self-sterilisation and wanting to end your bloodline, hence the abysmaly low birth rates in White and Asian countries since midwits are the majority unlike in Africa and other parts of Asia.

 

[CatDoll]

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Giving birth and fertility is that important? Not for being sarcastic i dont know about this.

 

[Aquarius]

Giving birth and fertility is that important? Not for being sarcastic i dont know about this.

Fertility is important because it has to do with your health.

Giving birth is important if you want to give life to a child.

 

[Lightning_Puma]

The bad side of feminism will end on its own when both genders heal from trauma, stop being triggered so easily, and stop aiming all their hate and frustration onto the other entire gender. A lot of misogynists deliberately provoke women, which instigates feminism further.

Interestingly, feminists are advocating against the media using the phrase "toxic masculinity" because feminists believe masculinity in itself is not toxic. It's the media who says feminists are against masculinity.

People need to understand our Gods, and how They designed us to be. A lot of men simply don't understand that woman aren't supposed to be uneducated and silent all the time, they look to xian beliefs and think that's it. Our Gods highly value education and clear communication, and bonding and unity between the genders.


The only feminist I knew in real life was a happily married homemaker who completed her degree after her children graduated from school, and she cooked and knitted.

There should be nothing wrong with a woman taking time off from her career for pregnancy and taking care of an infant. It's healthy to take time off from job, and focus on preparing to be a mother. Most pregnant women love growing a baby inside them and focusing fully on "nesting".

Artificial wombs would be very wrong. The baby needs to grow in the mother. This is proper prana and qi circulation, not artificially. An artificial womb cannot direct love to a fetus to bathe in (this might sound weird but there's spirituality behind it). Our populations will rise when the government allows women (and couples) to be able to afford to have babies. Most women want 3-4 children, some want even more, they can easily increase our population if they can afford it.

HPS, would it be ever possible for you to write more sermons about both topics, please? I'd really like to learn and read more about it!

 

[High Priestess Lydia Coventina]

It also seems very common online that a lot don't want to have children either, mainly because they see the world getting worse and don't want to bring children into it, which is a point of view I understand but also a very dangerous idea for humanity.

Nearly all women who have children, wanted more but couldn't afford it. Ask a mother if she wants to hold a little baby again and go through it all again, most will say yes.

People say things on the internet often out of bravado or trying a different persona, or trying to fit in with others or conversely trying to go against others, but when they have time to reflect and be honest with themselves, they are quite different. The internet is full of lies, half-truths, and distorted truths.

 

[Epiphany]

I may get hate for this, but I believe artificial wombs will be very important in saving the European and East Asian races in the future. They're also a great and efficient way to have several children at once without any of the risks of preganancy and will allow women to continue in their careers without pregnancy getting in the way. Artificial wombs could allow a couple for example to have as many kids as they want/can afford within one year. There's a lot of women out there, possible millions, who don't want to get pregnant due to all the symptoms associated with it, but perhaps they still want children.

Saying all this a man who will never get pregnant, but logically, I see the merits of artificial wombs.

This is an abomination. Pregnancy is beautiful and bypassing this would cut an immensely transformative, connecting and life affirming experience out of people's lives.

Living creatures should not be born from machines.

Nearly all women who have children, wanted more but couldn't afford it. Ask a mother if she wants to hold a little baby again and go through it all again, most will say yes.

People say things on the internet often out of bravado or trying a different persona, or trying to fit in with others or conversely trying to go against others, but when they have time to reflect and be honest with themselves, they are quite different. The internet is full of lies, half-truths, and distorted truths.

Mothers can also live that experience again when their children give them grandchildren. The legacy aspect is not talked about much, when people talk about having kids usually the conversation starts and ends at the pregnancy & newborn stage.

 

[RespectExistence]

They direct genders against each other through social media. My sister is a feminist and on the internet she looks manipulative because there is ONLY manipulative content to share (content that intentionally plays with words to push a narrative), but irl my sister is cool and she can listen to men's complaints patiently and give neutral feedback.
I think that trying to understand society through social media will lead you to mental poisoning. Think social media as a well that someone sneezed and peed in. Don't drink from it.

 

[PowerAMSS]

The bad side of feminism will end on its own when both genders heal from trauma, stop being triggered so easily, and stop aiming all their hate and frustration onto the other entire gender. A lot of misogynists deliberately provoke women, which instigates feminism further.

Interestingly, feminists are advocating against the media using the phrase "toxic masculinity" because feminists believe masculinity in itself is not toxic. It's the media who says feminists are against masculinity.

People need to understand our Gods, and how They designed us to be. A lot of men simply don't understand that woman aren't supposed to be uneducated and silent all the time, they look to xian beliefs and think that's it. Our Gods highly value education and clear communication, and bonding and unity between the genders.


The only feminist I knew in real life was a happily married homemaker who completed her degree after her children graduated from school, and she cooked and knitted.

Exactly High Priestess, both genders matter and both have strengths and weaknesses. Also, both are required to be powerful and intelligent. You put this beautifully. Thank you

 

[Rayquaza]

I read some strongly feminist paragraphs in a nineteenth-century book written by a woman, which extolled femininity and said that women should be proud of it. That was good feminism, and as long as rights were not equal, it was entirely legitimate.

Now feminists want to be men, whereas before they were proud to be women.