What is Fascism? (from both a Non-WW2 regime/WW2 regime perspective):

[Gearshift]

I'm aware due to copious ignorance and outright stupidity these terms both WW2 regime and Fascism have been clumped together and turned into vile scum shit garbage by various "winners

Can someone explain to me the difference between WW2 regime and Fascism?

Some might point out my signature which I stare we are not Fascist. And I also understand figure of the past and Mussolini never saw eye-to-eye on things plus the 1943 entrance of Germans to Italy only to go WTF the yehuborim are in all sorts of power position.

Is Fascism the National Socialist version of (NATO/OTAN) i.e. contain Communist Nations by way of political change. In other words to slow the spread of Marxist virus from counter-memeing the culture in their counter-culture revolution.

I'm also aware that we are TECHNICALLY(to a small degree) Anti-Fascist naturally(in a positive non-destructive manner like Anti-Fa; more intellectually aware we are not fully compatible per say) that while some ideas can be construed as good certainly Fascism DID something to help alleviate certain factors of economic, communistic expansion, and certain reactionary as well as revolutionary factors. Fascism doesn't really do much in terms of what figure of the past's WW2 regime did.

 

[Sean475]

I would say each party had their own definition of what Fascism was, Mussolini & Mosley's version
was political and economic, where as Arnold Leese's was political, economic & racial, or Racial-Fascism
as he called it....the problem with the term 'Socialism' in Britain was the genuine patriotic types detested it
in any form, as they see it as linked to Marxism/Communism, so were not likely to use the term in the name
of a party, all though late in the 1930's William Joyce started the National Socialist League.

 

[Sean475]

THE Imperial Fascist League
1. Fascism: Its Principles

FASCISM is defined as a patriotic revolt against democracy and a return
to statesmanship. Fascist rule insists upon the duty of co-operation.
Fascism itself is less a policy than a state of mind. It is the national
observance of duty towards others. The Great War, together with the
progress of science and the growth of education, has founded a new ideal.
The Fascist community is one that has begun to think historically; to
recognise its responsibilities as a link between the past and the future of
the race.
A Fascist regards his inheritance as something held in trust for the next
generation. He does service to the State as “ the guardian and transmitter
of the spirit of the people.” Through it, he is able to co-operate with his
descendants as well as with the workers of the past in the building up of
civilisation. He joins with his contemporaries in a compact of loyalty and
self-sacrifice, Fascism keeps alive the spirit of the trenches and makes it
a traditional inheritance. There is greater satisfaction it» service thus
voluntarily undertaken than in the false liberty belonging to democratic
government. That is why Fascism succeeds.
The response of the governing power so consolidated is threefold. Fascist
rule embodies a more adequate system of representation, a higher standard
of administrative efficiency, and stronger measures of protection, where-under the citizen may cultivate at will his personality and his private
interests. The production of wealth is thus left in the hands of the
individual who is responsible to and also safeguarded by the State.

The aim of all politics is to maintain Security for the Racial and National
Culture and for its gradual evolution in accordance with native tradition;
humanity has no other guide than this. The organisation of the Fascist
Corporative State removes all matters of price and wage to their proper
sphere under the protection of the State, and keeps them rigidly out of
high politics.
A serving political aristocracy, in the truest sense of the word, is a
necessity for the permanently successful working of any Government; and
there is no short road to its development. It is the object of the Imperial
Fascist League to form its nucleus by trial and proof of Character and of
Good Faith. The British Empire cannot be dominated by one man ; a team,
acting as one man, must be got together, every member of it with complete
trust in the good faith of the others, so that the Fascist Tradition may
become that characteristically British and Nordic one of Good Faith.

 

[Gearshift]

IMO Arnold Leese was the man who could have saved us from the world we live in today, this was
why Sir Oswald Mosley was put in place to stop him, as well as the likes of Henry Hamilton Beamish & the expert
monetary reformer Arthur Kitson, before the Imperial Fascist League grew so much support that it was anther NSDAP,
The IFL policy was quite simple. just tell people the truth.

Would it be fair to assume Racial-Fascism i.e. Leese's Fascists view i.e. IFL is simply WW2 regime without stating Socialist as you put it?

In other words reading your second post whereby you outline the IFL expression of charter. It sounds precisely what NSDAP was saying in Germany.

IF anything it seems less Fascist and more National Socialist rather it's name is simply to eliminate the stigma of Marxist/Communism/Socialism.

I don't know I'm extremely confused. On one hand we aren't Fascist on another Arnold Leese's IFL principle reading that tidbit of it, is so sound and so correct of what I read that it seems like it's simply WW2 regime with a Fascist coat of paint on i.e. We say Fascist to penetrate into the masses and those patriotics but we really mean WW2 regime.

Is it possible Leese understood Fascism has really no place any further going and saw WW2 regime as a more astute system of cooperative understanding?

In other words he understands Fascist help the World by containing communism hence why I said the (NATO/OTAN) of anti-Communism. But realized after a while that Fascism's World-View is too limited and construed to the state only rather than the individual.

I'm not saying Fascism is anti-personnel rather it seems the buck stops at a certain point and doesn't progress further. For example some have criticized Mussolini for wanting to expand into Africa to re-create the Roman Empire. Why push into other races territory. figure of the past understood this in Mein Kampf as "We cannot keep this colonization process it ruined us in the Great War". figure of the past basically understood keep it's negroid colonies and certain colonies in the Pacific rather than focus on mainland Europe was it's downfall. Probably made figure of the past realize more the internationalist element is the problem.

:? I read that bit of Leese and now I want to know more about this. As he understood WW2 regime is the avenue of a superior system.

 

[Sean475]

Yes without a doubt in Leese's case Racial-Fascism was WW2 regime.

Re Mussolini & Mosley's version, I would say they would be the equivalent of today's 'Civic Nationalism'
they give the impression they're for the better of the nation but still conveniently include a certain group,
I don't believe Mussolini's 1938 racial laws were genuine & were probably nothing more than to make the
Germans believe they were going down their road.....I mean who would wait 10+ years to bring in such
Laws, if you were genuine you would have done it from day 1, as Leese would have done.

 

[Sean475]

Arnold Leese was the mentor of Colin Jordan who led the likes of the National Socialist Movement & White Defence League & was one of the leaders of the World Union of National Socialists, so Leese was obviously along the same lines as the NSDAP, as you mention it was just a case that at the time Leese disliked the term Socialism as he see it as linked to Marxism/Communism.

 

[Sean475]

It would be unfair to lump Leese in with Mosley and Mussolini, he detested Mosley & immediately
labelled him and his party Yehubor-approved Fascists. And Mussolini, he went from admiring him to denouncing
him as a Pro-semite..........Mussolini was an MI5 agent at the end of WW1, I suspect they reactivated an
old agent, as he was nothing but a hindrance to the Germans.