Athenria said:
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Having all things consolidated into 1 huge group never ended well.
There's a saying "it was a feather and broke the camel's back"
That's why many huge empires compartmentalized their land into smaller provinces ruled by dukes and then those provinces where divided up even more and were ruled by barons/counts etc..
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That is called organization and not the nonsense you are here to promote deceitfully a breakdown of the main group, after literally 7 days of being in the forum under a bogus account.
The thing you call a "huge group" is already greatly organized, and this organization expands.
In regards to "Covens", you appear to also have zero experience, considering every gathering of certain people to be a "Coven". Covens are so serious, and it's rare or impossible for them to survive, because simply leadership and members are of a lesser quality most of the time.
You are also clearly here to procure confusion and you don't appear to want to take certain things at their real value. For example, yes, there is no other Pagan organization that is real and does what JoS does, all of them are a joke. What a few people think they are doing in a basement is also a viable judgement of things.
In regards to levels of advancement, we could cite from ideology, to development, to reach, to a lot of other factors that can measure something up. It really is very simple.
You are here for example citing your value which is only certified by your own immature and foolish comments, and use the usual meme that "Clergy is here for support only" and "Satan is my daddy" because of lack of having anything to show or having to actually point to something.
That is also a favorite line of infiltrators, which they commonly use to undermine any point other people might have to say, using it deceitfully to pretend there is no hierarchy or true judgement and that it's all "between themselves and Satan". That is an illogical argument too.
What the enemy does with perpetual creation of mushroom groups is just a huge waste of time and is a repetitive attack by the enemies, either against JoS, or even against our broader worldview of Paganism. Whether or not this is claimed through covens or a very nonsense based group this is ending up to the same end.
Covens, on the other hand, still remain and are part of JoS. But it is more often than not they malfunction because of poor quality of members and other issues, which is also true for any congregation for that matter.