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What happened to Pythia?

of the true light said:
Stormblood said:
of the true light said:
Some pagans outside of the forums are saying she is dead.

I don't know if that is true but...

She didn't even tell us goodbye.

At least not publicly anyway.

Since when do we believe anything outsiders say?

They may be Pagan but do not do any effective meditations. Their awareness, power and advancement are negligible because of this. So their opinion are irrelevant, being inferior souls compared to any established Zevism.
Since there are holes in the story how could one not?

If you really think there are "holes in the story" Then someone has really been feeding you bad ideas. Remember that the secrecy around this whole thing is absolutely necessary as this often happens in war to protect valuable information or people. You are probably having these thoughts because this all makes you uneasy but i can assure you there is nothing to be uneasy about.

What outsiders speculate about is their own problem and has nothing to do with us and can even be intentionally misleading, so please be aware and talk to the Gods about your doubts. I can assure you they are unfounded.
 
Siatris666 said:
all domains are in Pythia name. she could pull plug.

all her old email i have spoken to. NOT A WORD. ask anyone.

cobra say the truth but
unfortunately he just respect privacy OR GOT TOLD BY HER to NOT say

Then this forum could go dark at any moment and we don't have any backup.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
AgainstAllAuthority said:
Siatris said:
all domains are in Pythia name. she could pull plug.

all her old email i have spoken to. NOT A WORD. ask anyone.

cobra say the truth but
unfortunately he just respect privacy OR GOT TOLD BY HER to NOT say

Then this forum could go dark at any moment and we don't have any backup.

That is your personal opinion, not knowledge, and based on low level imagination and other similar things, rather than access to understanding or what we might have planned. In this case, it does not reflect anything but pointless statements.

HPS Pythia would never take anything down, and please do not listen to the ravings of Siatris or anything like this. He says some correct things, but he is overreacting because he gets paranoid and wants to "defend" me while all he does is scream things.

I'm not saying that she'd take it down. She could simply forget to pay for the domain.

Anyway it's good to have backups. If this place were to go dark for unforeseen reasons, where would people go? Wouldn't it be better to instruct them on what to do before disaster strikes?
 
Dark Blue Eye said:
NinRick said:
CaspianTheDreamer said:
Such a nasty attitude is unnecessary. They were just asking a question. I asked the exact same and people did tell me it has to do with her privacy, so i understood. But a constant attack mode isnt helpful.

I dislike it that people ask this constantly. It has a reason she wishes this to be private. So ofc I am pissed when some people can not understand this, and ask this naively. Even if someone knew, they should not share this. So why asking this?

Maybe not everyone is checking the forum everyday, week or even months and could miss such discussions and don't use the search function. This questions will not stop. Better ignore it if you don't like than giving such an answer

I find it funny that people get upset all the time when I just state some facts.
 
AgainstAllAuthority said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
AgainstAllAuthority said:
Then this forum could go dark at any moment and we don't have any backup.

That is your personal opinion, not knowledge, and based on low level imagination and other similar things, rather than access to understanding or what we might have planned. In this case, it does not reflect anything but pointless statements.

HPS Pythia would never take anything down, and please do not listen to the ravings of Siatris or anything like this. He says some correct things, but he is overreacting because he gets paranoid and wants to "defend" me while all he does is scream things.

I'm not saying that she'd take it down. She could simply forget to pay for the domain.

Anyway it's good to have backups. If this place were to go dark for unforeseen reasons, where would people go? Wouldn't it be better to instruct them on what to do before disaster strikes?

If anything happens to this forum, the JoS can simply buy a new server and domain and upload the forum database there, and everything will be the same. People would be instructed where to go from one of the main JoS sites, just like when the old prophpbb forums went down. The JoS sites are distributed across many providers, and there is even a Tor site. It would be nearly impossible for them to all go down at once (unless of course the whole internet goes down, in which case this issue becomes moot).
 
Dark Blue Eye said:
NinRick said:
CaspianTheDreamer said:
Such a nasty attitude is unnecessary. They were just asking a question. I asked the exact same and people did tell me it has to do with her privacy, so i understood. But a constant attack mode isnt helpful.

I dislike it that people ask this constantly. It has a reason she wishes this to be private. So ofc I am pissed when some people can not understand this, and ask this naively. Even if someone knew, they should not share this. So why asking this?

Maybe not everyone is checking the forum everyday, week or even months and could miss such discussions and don't use the search function. This questions will not stop. Better ignore it if you don't like than giving such an answer
People on here may always answer, might not be as many responses this one got but the answer will come no less.
 
Friends, I am Pegasus, Thanks for all of the answers. Who are like it or not, you help me very much. I was really understandable while reading. Thank you.
 
Dark Blue Eye said:
NinRick said:
CaspianTheDreamer said:
Such a nasty attitude is unnecessary. They were just asking a question. I asked the exact same and people did tell me it has to do with her privacy, so i understood. But a constant attack mode isnt helpful.

I dislike it that people ask this constantly. It has a reason she wishes this to be private. So ofc I am pissed when some people can not understand this, and ask this naively. Even if someone knew, they should not share this. So why asking this?

Maybe not everyone is checking the forum everyday, week or even months and could miss such discussions and don't use the search function. This questions will not stop. Better ignore it if you don't like than giving such an answer
That's the nature of forums. It's often a rather lather-rinse-repeat thing.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
FancyMancy said:
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Like it or don't like it, HPS Pythia is a celebrity of sorts. Her fame will only increase. People are bound to be curious and want to know more - living vicariously until they learn to live their own lives.

True, and for this reason, be careful of wild or extreme hoaxing. I won't be surprised if people make up lies perpetually about this. The things I have read are not only out of mark, but very wild imaginations. This happens to me even, people have made fake Telegrams [as if I would ever use Telegram after speaking openly against it] and so on, or even impersonate in e-mails.
Since things have been said about HPS Pythia before, I wouldn't be surprised if other things were said in the future, as well. As for you - I seem to recall that I did see something somewhere, which I never mentioned, about you and blah-blah-blah. One of the usual things which has been said about you.
 
AgainstAllAuthority said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
all domains are in Pythia name. she could pull plug.

all her old email i have spoken to. NOT A WORD. ask anyone.

cobra say the truth but
unfortunately he just respect privacy OR GOT TOLD BY HER to NOT say

Then this forum could go dark at any moment and we don't have any backup.
What actually happened here? Did you accidentally reply to siatris but quoted Cobra, since the original post seems to be deleted now?
 
Serbon said:
AgainstAllAuthority said:
Siatris666 said:
all domains are in Pythia name. she could pull plug.

all her old email i have spoken to. NOT A WORD. ask anyone.

cobra say the truth but
unfortunately he just respect privacy OR GOT TOLD BY HER to NOT say

Then this forum could go dark at any moment and we don't have any backup.
What actually happened here? Did you accidentally reply to siatris but quoted Cobra, since the original post seems to be deleted now?

It looks like I made an error while quoting. I sometimes delete excess quotations to make the overall message short.
 
Athenria said:
Pagans don't lack effective meditations and their awareness, power and advancement aren't negligible because of it.
You can't really compare pagans to established Zevism either mainly because you don't exactly have a way of gauging the "awareness, power and advancement" of either parties.

If anything this just shows that you're the one that's naive and unaware.

Athenria said:
The Alchemist7 said:
If by pagans you mean practicants of ancient paganism then there are no known `pagans` except of us.
And you know this how exactly?

Sure, you cannot directly test each person, but if you know someone is practicing certain exercises routinely, then you can expect them to develop certain attributes. And, as far as I can tell, most Pagans do not do what is on JOS. Most seem content to post memes on Gab and nothing else.

Even if someone was here on JOS, if they are not practicing properly, then they would be lacking in advanced abilities. So it matters exactly what one is doing with their time.

As far as defining paganism, why would our spirituality be at its limits with mere larping around a campfire, or practicing weak prop-based magic? We are meant to go all the way into the depths of our souls and improve it all. Most Wicca/Pagans don't even touch their chakras.

Therefore, Stormblood is correct in his assessment. Yet, regardless of any of this, nobody has asked why a random Pagan, outside of JOS, has any interest in HPS Pythia at all? Who exactly are these people who have a valuable insight into our community, yet are not even a part of it? What are their names, even?

Stormblood said:

Pinged so you can see my response.
 
of the true light said:
Since there are holes in the story how could one not?

Wanting to keep private about the whole story is not the same has having "holes". If she doesn't want her activity to be known, it's fine. She is entitled to her privacy and no one here is entitled to play paparazzi. It's addiction to social media and gossip circles that makes people feel [wrongly] entitled to know everything about someone else's private life. The truth is you are only entitled to what another person wants to share with you. Nothing more than that.

Athenria said:
Pagans don't lack effective meditations and their awareness, power and advancement aren't negligible because of it.
You can't really compare pagans to established Zevism either mainly because you don't exactly have a way of gauging the "awareness, power and advancement" of either parties.

If anything this just shows that you're the one that's naive and unaware.

Oh, I don't? Says who? Their websites, their books, the "rituals" they conduct and the false knowledge contained in them speaks volumes. And, yes, there are ways to gauge pretty much anything, with varying levels of accuracy depending on how skilled you are.
 
Athenria said:
I asked you how you came to your conclusion.
Why should i have to show you anything?
If there are no other groups/organizations that do what we do then I can safely state that we are the only genuine Ancient Pagan organization in the world. And there aren't as far as I know, this is how I came to my conclusion.
 
You've been here three days and you think you're making the rules? Stop this air of superiority and learn from members older and more experienced than you! You won't be taken seriously if you propagate nonsense around here.

If you don't apply what I've said you'll stick with your delusions and go down the path of ignorance until you self-destruct! By the way, you're going to piss me off enough.

You have one mouth and two ears to listen more and talk less! Understand what we want to tell you for once and develop your soul.
 
Athenria said:
"no other groups/organizations that do what we do" You mean that you are aware of right?
If you're not aware of it does it mean that those groups/organizations don't exist?

A lot of people don't believe in demons the astral etc, because they're not aware of it's existence does that mean they can 'safely' state that it doesn't exist?
Those people you are reffering to are mainly people who have realized that they have been manipulated and brainwashed under christianity, islam and other abrahamic affiliate "religions" with non-existent deities and fake hopes, therefore they have taken the path of ignorance by denying whatever cannot be physically proven by the official mainstream science and related, therefore yes from their point of view the Demons and higher levels of existence like astral are not real because they haven't been proven by the mainstream (infiltrated) science. What I am trying to say with this is that you haven't selected the best comparison as it's a whole different matter that entire books can be written about. Why these people don't believe in the existence of Demons and why we do and why the present day science will never prove their existence and so on. Extensive information has been posted and discused both on the Forums and on the Websites about this.

There might be separate people or communities that have been following the Gods like us for a very long time however they might live in closed circles. I heard some theories but I cannot speak since I don't have any evidence to support them. But as established "official" organization of genuine Pagans, I am sure there is none except of us Spiritual Satanists. It would be a general waste (of time, resources, money etc) to have separate organizations following the same Gods, practicing the same meditations, doing the same Rituals and so on. All I've seen on the internet is "Satanic cults" that promote atheistic and christian interpretations of Satanism, which have nothing to do with Ancient Paganism.
 
Athenria said:
...
Having all things consolidated into 1 huge group never ended well.
There's a saying "it was a feather and broke the camel's back"

That's why many huge empires compartmentalized their land into smaller provinces ruled by dukes and then those provinces where divided up even more and were ruled by barons/counts etc..
...

That is called organization and not the nonsense you are here to promote deceitfully a breakdown of the main group, after literally 7 days of being in the forum under a bogus account.

The thing you call a "huge group" is already greatly organized, and this organization expands.

In regards to "Covens", you appear to also have zero experience, considering every gathering of certain people to be a "Coven". Covens are so serious, and it's rare or impossible for them to survive, because simply leadership and members are of a lesser quality most of the time.

You are also clearly here to procure confusion and you don't appear to want to take certain things at their real value. For example, yes, there is no other Pagan organization that is real and does what JoS does, all of them are a joke. What a few people think they are doing in a basement is also a viable judgement of things.

In regards to levels of advancement, we could cite from ideology, to development, to reach, to a lot of other factors that can measure something up. It really is very simple.

You are here for example citing your value which is only certified by your own immature and foolish comments, and use the usual meme that "Clergy is here for support only" and "Satan is my daddy" because of lack of having anything to show or having to actually point to something.

That is also a favorite line of infiltrators, which they commonly use to undermine any point other people might have to say, using it deceitfully to pretend there is no hierarchy or true judgement and that it's all "between themselves and Satan". That is an illogical argument too.

What the enemy does with perpetual creation of mushroom groups is just a huge waste of time and is a repetitive attack by the enemies, either against JoS, or even against our broader worldview of Paganism. Whether or not this is claimed through covens or a very nonsense based group this is ending up to the same end.

Covens, on the other hand, still remain and are part of JoS. But it is more often than not they malfunction because of poor quality of members and other issues, which is also true for any congregation for that matter.
 
Athenria said:
Listen boy, i'm an Zevism, what are you supposed to be?

You really want to come in here and tell me that i should go learn from those older and more experienced than i am? you have any idea how old i am? you have any idea of my experience?
Go put your money where your mouth is and show some stats, boy.

i may have been 'here' for some days, but do you want to pretend you know how long i've been with Satan?

Please calm down. No, nobody knows who you are because you just made your account. There is no need to be hostile here.
If you are advanced, this will show through your actions beyond just arguing with others.

As far as your relationship between Satan and others, it also says in the Al-Jiwah that Satan appoints people under him and that you should follow them. Please see below.

Chapter I
...When temptation comes, I give my covenant to him that trusts in me. Moreover, I give council to the skilled directors, for I have appointed them for periods that are known to me...

Chapter V
O yea that have believed in me, honor my symbol and my image, for they remind you of me. Observe my laws and statutes. Obey my servants and listen to whatever they may dictate to you of the hidden things...
 
Athenria said:
"no other groups/organizations that do what we do" You mean that you are aware of right?
If you're not aware of it does it mean that those groups/organizations don't exist?

Of course, they are referring to only what they are aware of. If there is some secret, advanced groups helping our fight, then that is great news. Yet, what defines their advancement would be the type of energy work that they carry out. So, this is measurable. Their power will speak for itself.

Yet, Satanism also needs to go mainstream, and that is why JoS is publically available. These unknown groups you are referring to are limited in their scope, in comparison. Yet, most known Pagan groups do not demonstrate that they understand or implement occult principles. If you see an example of the contrary, please share.
 
Athenria said:
Did you people honestly think that after what happened in the dark ages that pagans with spiritual power would just be seen and known out in the open?
Do you all even know what happened in the dark ages?

Are you aware that xian churches hunted down anyone that was even suspected of doing witchcraft and proceeded to kill or torture them.
The churches also burnt all grimoires, texts and libraries containing spiritual knowledge they could get their hands on to stop the spread of spiritual knowledge.

So did you really expect anyone who was into the occult to just be open about their practices and make it public?
it's called the 'occult' for a reason.

Those 'pagans' that you all are so keen to look down on were not fools.
They went into hiding, they hid spiritual allegories in the ancient mythos, folk lore, and other things that can some times be hidden in plain sight.
It's pretty logical to assume they also hide in plain sight too appearing to be an everyday ordinary person.
......

Please understand that we are not trying to attack any people who are making genuine advancements for the Gentile race.
Yes, we understand the context with the enemy and occult knowledge.

This whole argument started over a reference to some unknown group of people, who may or may not be advanced. As you mention, not all JoS members are advancing properly, nor are all Pagan members. We don't disagree here.

I believe you and I are both trying to defend the same concept of spiritual advancement, but due to Mercury retrograde or other miscommunications, this is becoming a hostile debate.

I fully accept that there are people working secretly to advance our cause. Yet, there are also people who act in name only. I am trying to make sure that everyone advances properly, whether they are here on JoS or belong to some outside group.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Athenria said:
Listen boy, i'm an Zevism, what are you supposed to be?

You really want to come in here and tell me that i should go learn from those older and more experienced than i am? you have any idea how old i am? you have any idea of my experience?
Go put your money where your mouth is and show some stats, boy.

i may have been 'here' for some days, but do you want to pretend you know how long i've been with Satan?

Please calm down. No, nobody knows who you are because you just made your account. There is no need to be hostile here.
If you are advanced, this will show through your actions beyond just arguing with others.

As far as your relationship between Satan and others, it also says in the Al-Jiwah that Satan appoints people under him and that you should follow them. Please see below.

Chapter I
...When temptation comes, I give my covenant to him that trusts in me. Moreover, I give council to the skilled directors, for I have appointed them for periods that are known to me...

Chapter V
O yea that have believed in me, honor my symbol and my image, for they remind you of me. Observe my laws and statutes. Obey my servants and listen to whatever they may dictate to you of the hidden things...

WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done. 😦

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Zevios because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS
 
Kokusz said:
There definitely are higher ups and more will come up as we go on. How is this news to you? Age of Aquarius does not mean that there would not be hierarchy, or in other words, expierenced and wise on the top.

You might want to re-read the english language version of Al Jiwah as the excerpts that Blitzkreig took are in there.
 
Henu the Great said:
Kokusz said:
There definitely are higher ups and more will come up as we go on. How is this news to you? Age of Aquarius does not mean that there would not be hierarchy, or in other words, expierenced and wise on the top.

You might want to re-read the english language version of Al Jiwah as the excerpts that Blitzkreig took are in there.

I dont see anything wrong with listening to the knowledge and obeying the knowledge of someone who has Satan trusted Himself.

Also,they arent dictating whatever they like, their goals are in accord to Satan Himself.
 
Kokusz said:
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Athenria said:
Listen boy, i'm an Zevism, what are you supposed to be?

You really want to come in here and tell me that i should go learn from those older and more experienced than i am? you have any idea how old i am? you have any idea of my experience?
Go put your money where your mouth is and show some stats, boy.

i may have been 'here' for some days, but do you want to pretend you know how long i've been with Satan?

Please calm down. No, nobody knows who you are because you just made your account. There is no need to be hostile here.
If you are advanced, this will show through your actions beyond just arguing with others.

As far as your relationship between Satan and others, it also says in the Al-Jiwah that Satan appoints people under him and that you should follow them. Please see below.

Chapter I
...When temptation comes, I give my covenant to him that trusts in me. Moreover, I give council to the skilled directors, for I have appointed them for periods that are known to me...

Chapter V
O yea that have believed in me, honor my symbol and my image, for they remind you of me. Observe my laws and statutes. Obey my servants and listen to whatever they may dictate to you of the hidden things...

WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done. 😦

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Zevios because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS
You can do whatever you want in life but there are always going to be more advanced people than you that will know better. You don't need to "obey" them but you will understand if they are more advanced and so they will understand things better than you.
 
Kokusz said:
WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done. 😦

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Zevios because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS

I think you are reacting drastically to something that is not, in reality, as limiting as you may believe. All this statement is saying is that Satan wants you to listen to those who carry out his will. If he sends a Demon to you, which tells you that you need to start working on your throat chakra, will you interpret this negatively?

What about those who worked with HPS Pythia and Cobra to develop the Rituals, including telling us that we need to be diligent with them? Similarly, HPS Pythia was asked to be strict with both her studies and meditation routine. Now, we all enjoy the fruits of her labor because of that task being fulfilled. All of this has increased your freedom, not limited it.

In regards to an anonymous forum, we know that the Clergy themselves are appointed and supported by the Gods. As far as me or others, then I don't believe you need to listen to them. By the way, JoS did not write the Al-Jiwah. It was dictated by others many centuries ago.

If it has caused you such stress that you are considering abandoning everyone here, then you should reach out to Satan to give you a better explanation of what his own words are supposed to mean, rather than go through with destructive and isolating actions.
 
Kokusz said:
Blitzkreig [JG said:
" post_id=356189 time=1652953667 user_id=21286]
Athenria said:
Listen boy, i'm an Zevism, what are you supposed to be?

You really want to come in here and tell me that i should go learn from those older and more experienced than i am? you have any idea how old i am? you have any idea of my experience?
Go put your money where your mouth is and show some stats, boy.

i may have been 'here' for some days, but do you want to pretend you know how long i've been with Satan?

Please calm down. No, nobody knows who you are because you just made your account. There is no need to be hostile here.
If you are advanced, this will show through your actions beyond just arguing with others.

As far as your relationship between Satan and others, it also says in the Al-Jiwah that Satan appoints people under him and that you should follow them. Please see below.

Chapter I
...When temptation comes, I give my covenant to him that trusts in me. Moreover, I give council to the skilled directors, for I have appointed them for periods that are known to me...

Chapter V
O yea that have believed in me, honor my symbol and my image, for they remind you of me. Observe my laws and statutes. Obey my servants and listen to whatever they may dictate to you of the hidden things...

WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done. 😦

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Zevios because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS

If it weren't for the works of at least two "faceless, anonymous" individuals (HPS Pythia and the person who translated the JoS to Hungarian), then how would you even have been able to read the JoS in Hungarian at all?

When you read the JoS, this is already a way of submitting to servants of Satan on earth. You just misinterpreted how this submission happens.

Satan is above all individuals, sure. But the descendants of Satan are numerous, so even He needs the managing help of other Gods and humans to help His wish be carried out. As Blitskrieg said, would you also take offense in the fact that each of us has their own Guardian?
 
luis said:
Kokusz said:
Blitzkreig [JG said:
" post_id=356189 time=1652953667 user_id=21286]


Please calm down. No, nobody knows who you are because you just made your account. There is no need to be hostile here.
If you are advanced, this will show through your actions beyond just arguing with others.

As far as your relationship between Satan and others, it also says in the Al-Jiwah that Satan appoints people under him and that you should follow them. Please see below.

Chapter I
...When temptation comes, I give my covenant to him that trusts in me. Moreover, I give council to the skilled directors, for I have appointed them for periods that are known to me...

Chapter V
O yea that have believed in me, honor my symbol and my image, for they remind you of me. Observe my laws and statutes. Obey my servants and listen to whatever they may dictate to you of the hidden things...

WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done. 😦

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Zevios because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS
You can do whatever you want in life but there are always going to be more advanced people than you that will know better. You don't need to "obey" them but you will understand if they are more advanced and so they will understand things better than you.


Father Satan was referring to the Demons.
When the Demons come to confirmed spiritual Satanists, the come on the behalf of Satan, they are fully of Satan.
The Demons are those who teach us of the hidden things, they are our Guides, Masters and Gods, so of course we have to obey them, as they guide us in pur evolution.

When the Demons come to us they come in Satan‘s Name and on Satan‘s behalf. They are like Satan‘s extensions, they are all fully aligned with Satan‘s will, so shall we be and obey Satan and his Demons.
 
NinRick said:
Jack said:
Her job is complete. Now it's your job to do the rest with the movement that she started in your own life.

This are very nice words.

There's a reason the God's physically left us many thousands of years ago, to advance on our own.
We have to look at what is Natural for a Human Being on planet Earth. What is Natural even for a Mammal or Arachnid or any living specimen. It is to survive, live, reproduce, but also for the individual to protect itself from the outside world.

The epidermis of the skin, the Cell Walls, White blood Cells, etc. We are meant to be independent, even in our spiritual work and our minds. This body is our sanctuary, this soul is our true home. I regard this spiritual soul, as the God's themselves residing within me. They have said clearly, we do not need anything outside of ourselves. Remove the curses, and this biological being that we are, along with the gifted soul powers, we will achieve Homeostasis. And will naturally advance towards the God's.

And as you say, Pythia has been the Mentor and Mother to Thousands of Zevism that are growing more empowered Daily. She is one women that needs to direct her energy towards her most important tasks.

Honestly, this is a most wonderful thing to understand that she has become so successful at her goal, that she is able to work on other priorities.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Kokusz said:
WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done. 😦

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Zevios because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS

I think you are reacting drastically to something that is not, in reality, as limiting as you may believe. All this statement is saying is that Satan wants you to listen to those who carry out his will. If he sends a Demon to you, which tells you that you need to start working on your throat chakra, will you interpret this negatively?

What about those who worked with HPS Pythia and Cobra to develop the Rituals, including telling us that we need to be diligent with them? Similarly, HPS Pythia was asked to be strict with both her studies and meditation routine. Now, we all enjoy the fruits of her labor because of that task being fulfilled. All of this has increased your freedom, not limited it.

In regards to an anonymous forum, we know that the Clergy themselves are appointed and supported by the Gods. As far as me or others, then I don't believe you need to listen to them. By the way, JoS did not write the Al-Jiwah. It was dictated by others many centuries ago.

If it has caused you such stress that you are considering abandoning everyone here, then you should reach out to Satan to give you a better explanation of what his own words are supposed to mean, rather than go through with destructive and isolating actions.

You are using a quote from a text that was written ages ago to justify yourself as an unquestionable authority for us. It’s like you want Athenria to recognise you in those lines. This attitude reminds me of Christianity.

I don’t understand why going independently seen as destructive and isolating. JoS is not the only and single source of the occult knowledge, it never was. There is knowledge everywhere and our advancement is not up to one website. I wrote that I am leaving is to give feedback. People are leaving this site.

For the readers: Guys, you don’t have to follow every person who calms to be more advanced than you as your authority/spiritual leader/guru…etc.
 
Kokusz said:
Blitzkreig [JG said:
" post_id=356233 time=1652964629 user_id=21286]
Kokusz said:
WTF? Is this for real or are you joking?
I am done. 😦

I have read the Al Jiwah in hungarian and I don’t remember anything like this. That last sentence is something that I won’t do and I have never felt anything like that from Satan. I won’t obey to whatever the fuck dictated by on a faceless and nameless anonymous online forum. Don’t get me wrong, I do have respect for this forum, but it is too much and it will be too much for many other people on the spiritual path.

JoS will loose many people with this attitude. You can’t expect people to obey and follow whatever you dictate in this age. Individuality will become more important than before. This is the Age of Aquarious. People will less likely obey and follow dictations from an online forum anymore.

I would like to say a last thank you for Zevios because he was my inspiration at the beginning of my spiritual path. From now on I am officially an independent occultist.

Goodbye JoS

I think you are reacting drastically to something that is not, in reality, as limiting as you may believe. All this statement is saying is that Satan wants you to listen to those who carry out his will. If he sends a Demon to you, which tells you that you need to start working on your throat chakra, will you interpret this negatively?

What about those who worked with HPS Pythia and Cobra to develop the Rituals, including telling us that we need to be diligent with them? Similarly, HPS Pythia was asked to be strict with both her studies and meditation routine. Now, we all enjoy the fruits of her labor because of that task being fulfilled. All of this has increased your freedom, not limited it.

In regards to an anonymous forum, we know that the Clergy themselves are appointed and supported by the Gods. As far as me or others, then I don't believe you need to listen to them. By the way, JoS did not write the Al-Jiwah. It was dictated by others many centuries ago.

If it has caused you such stress that you are considering abandoning everyone here, then you should reach out to Satan to give you a better explanation of what his own words are supposed to mean, rather than go through with destructive and isolating actions.

You are using a quote from a text that was written ages ago to justify yourself as an unquestionable authority for us. It’s like you want Athenria to recognise you in those lines. This attitude reminds me of Christianity.

I don’t understand why going independently seen as destructive and isolating. JoS is not the only and single source of the occult knowledge, it never was. There is knowledge everywhere and our advancement is not up to one website. I wrote that I am leaving is to give feedback. People are leaving this site.

For the readers: Guys, you don’t have to follow every person who calms to be more advanced than you as your authority/spiritual leader/guru…etc.

Bye, I personally don't care about who leaves, as you were never here regardless. It breathes between the lines every failure and dissonance, and it is contained within the contents of your post and attitude.

You are a straw man. Nobody used any authority or superiority on you, yet you are crying your weak self out of your expectation of such, which in reality never comes. Authority is received when one handles it, had it or achieves it, therefore in all your extra website studies and life in general, did not found any power within you to wield or to judge. Same applies to all these larpers and weak individuals who think their opinion or low existence view matters.

How can you understand superiority when you don't even see it, but even have an opinion of manifestation of it or how reality works.

Humble yourself and advance. Doing three farts in your spare time while imagining the world is due to your conquering, while you do not conquer even yourself to have a good night sleep or a beautiful life, is remnants of a dissonant and mediocre existence. But oh "we" have claims of superiority, much xianity.

And also you should understand what VoE tells you, regardless it is pretty sad that there's a need to detail so simple and natural understanding that every one knows it, at least by an emotional intelligence and healthy lifestyle. To sumrise this is a defining vector of those who advance or not. It is basic human respect and life experience that is lacking in all of these weak individuals, as they haven't meet it in life.
 

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