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JoS has changed my life. I made many mistakes in the past and it inspired me to keep growing and not wallow in negative energy. It feels amazing to have meaning and fight for a better future. I also have less fear in any situation and have been able to develop stronger willpower when I used to be so weak and ready to give up. I am grateful for the information and for those who have helped me and others in our paths. I hope we can one day reach a point where we have an even stronger sense of community and maybe have rituals and celebrations in person. It seems to be a long way off in the worlds current state. I wish I could volunteer my time without secrecy. I hope we can achieve a better future and civilization.

Hail Satan
Hail Eligos
 
I've yet to read all the suggestions and answer in this topic but I have had ideas for a while too. I know each minute one such as you wastes is a step our entire Serpent Brotherhood could have taken but did not, so I appreciate this opportunity and thank you for giving us the microphone sometimes, HP Cobra.

In order not to divulge too much or demand you do the same and as such, inadvertently harm "bigger" plans, I won't be too forward. But I would ask you to more openly share "higher" spiritual knowledge. I mean in terms of practice, not just theory.

I am aware that there is already effort in the works here and there are bits and pieces shared all around, but you also make comments that honestly give me impatient itches - like how you once said that "Runes are mid-level magick at best". We have "stronger" stuff too but not by much much more and it's mostly scattered. I can also say the same about meditations - we have by far the most powerful stuff on the internet but some things require updates (such as how the King & Queen on the Meditations page on the JoS isn't even the "full" version that HPS Maxine posted several years ago on the Yahoo Groups, you probably remember exactly what I am talking about). Also the idea that there are probably "higher" tiers of magick that I am not even scratching the surface of makes my Aquarian seeker side itch something fierce.

I am also aware first-hand that some information needs to be released with awareness, gradually and bit by bit, so as not to let people burn out or much worse, give enemy agents the opportunity to obtain more power to use against us. I was also instructed to be similarly careful in a very similar topic in the past, so I know you aren't holding out on us because of personal wishes (if it can even be called holding out), but that your hands are tied, High Priest.

I am only making this request with the awareness that you are, for now, still "only human" and cannot think of every matter at the same time - so mostly see this as a reminder, please. I'd ask you to meditate on this matter, maybe ask for the Gods to give you new directions and recalibrate your approach ever so slightly, if needed. Maybe the coast is a little bit clearer now after all our collective work such that we can handle a little bit higher level of advanced and openly given information. Maybe not. You'll know best. I just felt like reminding you could help.
 
Under the section where there is the "Health Forum, Pet Forum, Astrology Forum", I wonder if we can have a place for Art by our fellow brothers and sisters. Art has been greatly perverted and turned into a joke in the mainstream by the enemy, but it's an important creative expression. Though I've seen a thread for people to post their art under, a proper place for the artwork to be showcased and share beautiful Satanic things in writings, paintings, music etc, I think would be a lovely addition to the forums personally.
 
I’m a beginner, so please forgive me if some things are already said/done. I would like to see a few things :
- Some tutorials on Astrology prediction. I understand my natal chart but I lack the knowledge to make good prediction.
- Perhaps an average time necessary to succeed in workings, in order to not despair if we do not see immediate results. Exemple : opening crown : few months, kundalini 1 year, etc.
- Instructions after the 40 days program. Currently, one have to search whole site to find some (6 months training, square, etc.)
- Perhaps a method to help christians see the errors on their « religion ». Ex : what can we say to convince some family members to try yoga (without reveling anything spirituality, which will make them go away) ?
 
I am very grateful for my knowledge and experiences since coming to JOS. I have felt very looked after and cared for in many different ways. It is interesting to see this because I have had recent thoughts of us in the long run ending up funding a place for people to come to learn about astrology, and for meditation and yoga and ultimately the Gods, like a school of sorts, but this is something I think for the far far future and it might not be safe right now especially out in the open.

Especially due to the JOS being translated into many different languages, I hope to see more and more people coming to Satan here in droves even. With that being said I think spreading the word around as well as some online campaigns, especially with spreading around the newly translated sites, are well due in the coming future, especially to help JOS expand and grow even further, which it has been doing also.

As for the present and near future I look forward to us bringing more knowledge and updates about learning about our Gods, and becoming even closer to them, as well as any new meditations or divination methods that would be useful, updates on astrological knowledge, and so on, with possibly even reaching out to other suitable SS to assist with gathering any useful information that can help with this. I am sure you do a lot by yourself in this department which at times can be pretty demanding. This brings me to something else.

I think our forums would benefit from having more mods, especially ones that are available with more free time to moderate these forums more strictly and properly to prevent us from wasting our time with trolls and other things as well as to keep post traffic going at a steady pace, which can be made easier by having more suitable hands on the crew I think, if possible. (i am sure our current few are quite overburdened and have been for some time.)

Furthermore, I would like to see the forum base continue to grow and mature with less bickering and more unity, although in some cases this is not always avoidable because no two people will ever be the same. Point however is in how an argument is conducted and how something is presented, ideally assertively versus aggressively and with respect. If we are to bring more people to us it is imperative that this general forum base grows up a bit, and gives more of a serious impression. To do this there honestly needs to be a change in how some people approach things here and how they treat others.

There have been sermons made on this in the past and not everyone adheres to it. I know there are a lot of young people here, the majority even, but if outsiders look in and see how some people have approached things they will not always get the greatest impression. Bringing me to one more point. You guys may or may not agree or like this very much depending on the person...but I REALLY think stuff like the anime avatars give a childish and immature image of JOS as well as the forums. It basically gives others the image of children or teens having an online pow-wow versus grown-up serious people who are trying to advance in the occult and getting close to the Old Gods. I do realize that a lot of anime is tailored to adults, but that is not what outsiders will think of at their first glance here at a cartoon picture.

Look at many of the ancient occult circles from ancient times. I am pretty sure they were taken seriously and got down to serious business instead of posting cutsie or cartooney pics online and engaging in mindless drama or getting feelings butthurt over nothing. Take it or leave it, if you want to advance it's time to grow up. I'm just being honest, and am saying all this because I care about JOS, this forum, and our people and even one in it.

On another note, I also very much like the idea in the past that was presented with putting Bigot boy's master squares app on a website that we all could access. This includes his new master rune app that was made which I think looks great.

When all the sites are translated into all the languages I hope to see a forum section for each language if possible, for the people who cannot read or speak English, with mods for each, ideally native speakers. We have this now also I believe for the few languages we do have at the present moment. This way sermons and other important things can be translated and posted consistently for everyone around the world.

As far as the great progress made so far, it is excellent and I only hope we keep moving forward.

Hail Satan!
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
That's an open discussion thread where ideas can be shared. Could be about now or about decades later, or more generalized things. Not many limits placed on any questions, this is more like a walk into the higher worlds that we could have?

We have the 10 year plan of course. But I would like to hear about more.

How has Satanism affected you and how do you see that this might affect others in the future?

What about the future where more people will see the Truth, how do you see yourself and others in all this?

Why do you think that is important that it happens on a higher scale?

What would you like to see from JoS towards this world?

What I personally would appreciate is that the JoS promotes Father Satan, the crowned Princess of Hell and the Demons even more.
Your Sermons are helpful for understanding, and for some reason whenever I hit a wall or something like that, your Sermons had the key information/motivation to understand my issues and approach at times (Are you able to look into our heads? :p)

But what Helped me the most was the advanced Information about the Crowned Princess of Hell, and the feelings and connection which this focus induced in my soul & mind. By this I progressed much faster, simply because I connected deeper to the Gods by this, who led me by intuition in my meditations and life.

After all, I believe this path is all about Satan and the Gods and being close to them. This way people make the best progress possible.

So in short, what I personally want to see is Content that connect Satanists to Satan and the Gods (just like the advanced Information about Father Satan, Lord Apollo, Lady Inanna and Baal-Zebul).
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
That's an open discussion thread where ideas can be shared. Could be about now or about decades later, or more generalized things. Not many limits placed on any questions, this is more like a walk into the higher worlds that we could have?

We have the 10 year plan of course. But I would like to hear about more.

How has Satanism affected you and how do you see that this might affect others in the future?

Well to put it simply it's given me my life back, in more ways than one; my sense of self, peace and happiness that I'm not sure when the last time I felt such. I have purpose in my life, and direction. I have goals and dreams that I want to reach again, where before I had lost sight of anything. I was saved from the damage of a cult, to put things into perspective.

There are going to be many who come here over time, some maybe with a similar situation, others worse, others more pleasant life experiences. All of them will be affected in the same way, once their eyes are open to it, their lives will improve and themselves in deeper levels than they'll ever know alone. That's truly valuable and meaningful to anybody who wants to get out of the negative drain hole the enemy has caused the world to be in, and from it many things are going to get better for everyone.

What about the future where more people will see the Truth, how do you see yourself and others in all this?
Not sure yet, I'll still be here, but how I see myself, I think I need to continue putting things into place and sorting things out before I have a clear idea of that. Though some day sooner rather than later, I hope to see a revival of peoples sense of their people, stronger than ever, and synchronisation between the races to build a great power on the human level against the enemy.

Why do you think that is important that it happens on a higher scale?
Many humans have lost the notion of kinship, connection, family.... people are craving it, but they can't yet trust each other, because of programmings. An awakening of that again would be of great benefit to our cause. Right now, humanity's power is divided. Even if much of humanity is weakened, with numbers and working together, the power the world had stolen from it can be reborn.

What would you like to see from JoS towards this world?

Someday, when everything is safer and the enemy is just dust, more than most things I really want to see the return of physical libraries full of knowledge again. Like the Library of Alexandria.

In the mean time, refer to my first comment posted before this one.
 
One idea I have is to expand into other areas that are less spiritual and more practical. Lifestyle guidelines, common sense, etc, all from a Satanic perspective, but not overtly Satanic. Even random wholesome topics like how to grow fresh vegetables! All we need are members who are knowledgeable to write good articles. (This would not result in a decrease in the amount of spiritual knowledge we publish, since that mostly comes from the clergy, and these would be written by ordinary members.)

These sections would serve to expand our reach by attracting people for other reasons, and of course every page would link back to the Joy of Satan. :D
 
As long as Satan/Murugan (handsome one)/Skanda (Army General)/Sanat Kumara (Eternal Youth)/ Al Khedira (the Green Man called so by the Arabs because his an agriculturist and can turn a desert into Forest) and many other names remains central , then JOS will just be fine.
As Kundalini Yoga aspirants we are a house of dragons.
 
We need to buy land!!!
In different parts of the USA.
A place where we can build satanic only communities where we can live and collab in peace.
A place where we can do group meditations and rituals and empower ourselves as well as live freely and without fear. A self sustainable community where we take care of eachother.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
That's an open discussion thread where ideas can be shared. Could be about now or about decades later, or more generalized things. Not many limits placed on any questions, this is more like a walk into the higher worlds that we could have?

We have the 10 year plan of course. But I would like to hear about more.

How has Satanism affected you and how do you see that this might affect others in the future?

What about the future where more people will see the Truth, how do you see yourself and others in all this?

Why do you think that is important that it happens on a higher scale?

What would you like to see from JoS towards this world?

The Joy of Satan or Spiritual Satanism changed my life in every aspect for the better,
making me a better human, more complete, balanced. It helps me bring out my full potential,
making me spiritually/psychologically more mature. I am reborn.

I think this is the only platform and way of living that represents, supports and protects true human unlimited potential and freedom without restrictions, in a positive and healthy way. True human advancement which is limitless.
Everyone can benefit from it, it is/should become available to every human being, in a positive way.
Its openness and staying truthful in every aspect is what makes it win.
It/We have nothing to hide, the whole world can come into our home, there is nothing but truth.
Who wants to stay can stay, who is an enemy can go back to his hole.

I can see in the near future Joy of Satan/Spiritual Satanism manifesting itself physically more in the world,
Joy of Satan Temples opening in every city, carriers of the truth battling with the body, mind and soul.
I think it is important that when the Joy of Satan/Spiritual Satanism manifests itself physically,
it should be done in a light-hearted manner and by trusted members who can speak/behave well,
know the JoS material and what it stands for by heart and don't feed into enemy propaganda.

But the Joy of Satan/Spiritual Satanism is already successful and will be more successful with its current way of dealing with things, which is through the internet and strengthening its base and closing any holes in this system.
More internet warfare/propaganda should be done in a positive way, this is how i found it, through several smart comments on videos that deal with serious things, truthful things. Maybe expand that to other areas as well.

Me personally i would like to see our own dream interpretation site or tab, with a lexicon or just answering by trusted members.
An expansion of the JoS numerology and maybe our own shop like etsy and a financial sector,
with tips and tricks to benefit from current financial state of the world, so our members can become richer and donate more.
Maybe an expansion of health and well-being, a lexicon of health problems with solutions,
natural remedies, botanic, ayurveda, crystals and other stuff.

And maybe a more direct and spiritual way of helping or connecting with sincere/serious dedicated members,
growing the wolf pack, making more people Guardians, helping certain individuals who can leave a mark grow faster etc.
A more spiritual/personal way of connecting with our dedicated soul brothers/sisters here, maybe through a ritual?

Hail Satan, all our Gods/Demons, all our Leadership and sincere members. Stay safe, strong, keep fighting.
 
Big Dipper said:
when I was new, I was just doing the basic meditations for years not moving on to other, stronger meditations. I wish we had a "meditation tier list". Not in terms of usefulness, but in terms of "you do this for this number of times a day for this many days ( basic aura cleaning for 60 days (i dont know)) then you could start to move on to higher one's like raum cleaning or runic cleaning. 3rd eye opening with thaum for however many days, then you could do the dagaz rune instead for however many days, or whatever. This sounds like it would be hard to calculate since people advance at different rates tho.

Something like this, but much better:

3rd eye opening for (days?) and after that many days you can swap to ----> dagaz rune for (reps?) for (days?) ---------------->
or ----> (something else that's stronger) (reps?) for (days?)->
then -----> (something even stronger?)
or -----> (something even stronger?)

aura cleaning many days then ----> Raum cleaning for (days?). then after this many days -------> (something stronger?)
or ----> (rune?) for (days?) and (mantra?) then ---------------> (something stronger?)
or ---->(another rune?) same as ^^^ then -------------> (something stronger?)
or ----> (another rune?) same as ^^^ then ---------->(something stronger?)
and the list goes on.....

I have a bad stagnate nature, so when i was new I wasn't doing stronger meditations, because I thought the basics were good enough for a while. Stupid of me. I feel like it would help guide some people by showing them where they could be at in terms of meditation over time.

I agree with Big Dipper 100%. Having an official guide for beginners and intermediate Satanists alike would be very useful in my opinion. Also the progression doesn't have to be tiered based on the amount of days one spends doing a particular meditation. A better approach might be gauging ones progress by some achievement/feeling or other easily observable occurence where possible (ie. do void until you can keep your mind still for 15min).
 
So, I've come to elaborate a little more about my idea from before, on the journal thing. So once we log into the forums, we go to our profile and click on our personal journal. There we can make notes and stuff for learning, and keeping up with workings, meditations, whatever we want to write about. And there can be a small widget in the journal page that can view a mini version of the JOS website. from the jos page we can save a page and it will go into our journal under saved pages and we can use those for references and more learning. It could be a handy tool that's a safer alternative to using browser bookmarks, or keeping a personal journal on hand for people who are unable to keep a real paper journal because they live with nosey family members. Etc. I was hoping it could be a useful idea. But if not it's understandable.
 
SapphireDragon said:
So, I've come to elaborate a little more about my idea from before, on the journal thing.

Very good idea. If that existed in my time, then it would have saved me a lot of grief from carrying around notes and dangerously so, which I no longer do. Honestly, this likely can be attained easily. It's a good idea, especially for those who might have problems keeping black journals, which can be dangerous at home or even online.

Yet, there are two functional things here:

1. The possibility of a hack always exists, we can mitigate, but not make disappear.
2. It would necessitate trust, and one would need to be careful what one writes there for the above reason.
3. We would need to ensure some form of encryption for each member and what anyone writes, with a focus on file separation and privacy.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
That's an open discussion thread where ideas can be shared. Could be about now or about decades later, or more generalized things. Not many limits placed on any questions, this is more like a walk into the higher worlds that we could have?

We have the 10 year plan of course. But I would like to hear about more.

How has Satanism affected you and how do you see that this might affect others in the future?

What about the future where more people will see the Truth, how do you see yourself and others in all this?

Why do you think that is important that it happens on a higher scale?

What would you like to see from JoS towards this world?

The JOS has helped me in more ways then I could ever imagined. It has saved my life. I'm so thankful I'm not a part of Christianity anymore and so thankful Im not a new ager either. Satan has truly blessed me in so many ways. It's been a long a difficult journey for me but I've actually been doing the things the JOS says to do and it's been a great year. Hopefully as we advance others will notice this and see that we are clearly not Christan and that we are very much FREE! Hopefully that will inspire others to search and find the truth. Hail Satan!
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
3. We would need to ensure some form of encryption for each member and what anyone writes, with a focus on file separation and privacy.
Individual encryption key that is tied to a personal key phrase for recovery of account data. If this keyphrase and password are lost, access is lost. But it should be inaccessible to anyone else but the user itself. Much like what Protonmail offers.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
SapphireDragon said:
So, I've come to elaborate a little more about my idea from before, on the journal thing.

Very good idea. If that existed in my time, then it would have saved me a lot of grief from carrying around notes and dangerously so, which I no longer do. Honestly, this likely can be attained easily. It's a good idea, especially for those who might have problems keeping black journals, which can be dangerous at home or even online.

Yet, there are two functional things here:

1. The possibility of a hack always exists, we can mitigate, but not make disappear.
2. It would necessitate trust, and one would need to be careful what one writes there for the above reason.
3. We would need to ensure some form of encryption for each member and what anyone writes, with a focus on file separation and privacy.
This is very possible. It could use zero-knowledge encryption so that even if the server was hacked, people's data would be safe. The only way to decrypt people's data would be if someone hacked the server and injected code to observe people's passwords as they logged in. This is very hard because the hack would need to remain undetected for a long time. And it could easily be prevented by giving people a browser plugin to verify the code's authenticity and display a warning if it was tampered with.
 
Mentorship program.
If they want it, new SS get assigned to experienced SS, which make sure that they advance as fast as possible.

Make a private (or public, why not) section on the forum where mentor and mentee can exchange messages.
 
I will talk about how the joy of SATAN changed my life. I was a slave. I followed everyone's life concepts (of the people who passed through my life) because I didn't live in reality . I didn't even exist for me. Others chose how to live my life in my place. Because I was not aware of my existence as a real person. I always saw a girl totally different from what I am in reality in my imagination and I belive in that girl, I lived there completely forgetting about the real world. That's how I was from childhood, from a very young age. I lived at the lowest level (imagine a man on the street) and I don't even realize this. My coming to Satanism meant my awakening to reality. My awareness as a real person. That I am actually exist in this world. Not in other worlds. Since I found SATAN, I had an education. An education that I didn' t even receive from my parents they were too busy to educate me. I was a wild one, destroying my life and denigrating me. I denigrate myself a lot and I wasn't even aware of it. Because I was too busy living in an imaginary world. Since I discovered the Joy of SATAN and SATAN Himself, my life has changed in better. I started to take care of myself. I started to care about my life. I started to believe that everything that has life must be protected. I started to do or at least try to do only good things. For me, the clergy Joy of SATAN did what no one was able to do. They did what even my parents were not able to do. They educated me. They rehabilitated a man and put him on his feet. You gave him consciousness. I would like everyone to see the good that you offer. For me... in a world ruled by evil and people without conscience, you are the good. And Joy of SATAN never lied. Everything they said is real. Everything was proven to me. Just... Thank You... Because... The Joy of SATAN and SATAN saved my life. I would like people to see these things. Many children need education. Therefore, the world needs the joy of SATAN and SATAN. And I would like all nations to see the good offered by you.
 
jrvan said:
sshivafr said:
A development of the JoS market would be great for members who offer something, as well as for members who buy / ask.
The jooz make each other work. Why not do the same.

I personally disagree with this one. The reward for those who contribute is that 1. they reward themselves by laying those bricks and building the foundation for everything to come. It all comes back to them. 2. They are further blessed by the Gods. 3. The Clergy and others already provide in the way of all the information they give freely, much of it being fruits of their own meditations and advancement and also their communication with the Gods.

As for services being bought, if the High Priest, for example, was preoccupied with astrology services like he was in the past then just think of all the other things he wouldn't be able to do which he is doing now. His time is freed up for other things that the community needs, as well as managing the warfare and other rituals, many other projects on the side, and everything else he does known and unknown to us. I believe he has also stated that there will be others who will eventually offer astrology services. How all of that will be set up and operated I'm sure will be handled at the appropriate time.

Perhaps I missed something of the meaning of your comment? This is my thoughts based on the way I interpreted it.

That will be handled, yes.

Given services and other subjects should be treated separately for clarity of thought. I can no longer give personal services of this manner, because of the time involved. The 1-1 benefit this gives might be immense, but my life exists to help the community on the large scale as much as possible, and only insofar the 1-1 benefit reflects on the community, then I can help.

As time goes, with the amount of knowledge and perception, it becomes difficult to increase the price to a level where it can be a marketed product. So I can no longer market this.

That is why I will only do charts for serious volunteers who are serious about JoS, to give them a great edge in their life, and look after them BECAUSE they help the JoS grow, not as a service. Those who help the JoS and their people in their Nations, with translations etc, or who work in JoS projects.

It's absolutely correct about the situation of mine and other people. I am under a mountain and can unfortunately not do any paid services myself, unless these are large scale or involve some sort of eventual reward for JoS itself. Yet, offering astrology as in the past is very difficult and impossible for the time being and the foreseeable future.

The above involves my individual case or that of others.

But others can and definitely will be able to give services [of the paid kind that are 1-1 person basis benefit, and therefore 1-1 liability for payments], and should actually do this, as they do not have the above schedule nor they need to have it. Especially in the Astrology department. Doing my Natal Chart from HPS Maxine a long time ago, saved me from a lot of grief.

Serious astrologers NEED to do charts for other people to grow into this, and making revenue of a reasonable amount is not a bad idea whatsoever.

They can have happier lives long story short and if one does not have higher and higher time constraints and responsibilities, they should by all measures gain for their help to other SS. With the necessary personal reward and the communal reward, while at the same time helping individuals in the same time.

There are quite a few smart solutions we are going to mobilize for this, so everyone can have maximum gain from this process.

I'll explain more in an appropriate place where the matter will be conversed by those who either donate, or are doing serious volunteer work for JoS.
 

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