Vinasa

[Shael]

Always good to experiment, and i like people who do.

But just make sure you're experimenting properly, they're a lot of things to take into account,

1, your own affinity for things - not everyone is the same, when you're doing meditations you're bringing up and getting rid of dross and such this makes things easier or harder but can also affect you emotionaly at times.

True, but generally when a mantra has positive effects for me personally, chances are that it will at the very least not be harmful for others either. Atleast in my opinion.
I always make sure to mention that everyone try the mantra I recommended personally, and see how the energies feel for them individually, so as to ensure it does not have a negative effect on them.

2, planetary influences - like transits, the Moon also moves rather fast which can affect one's emotions and sensitivity, sometimes transits can cause similar effects to what you're expecting or the opposite.

I agree, but I doubt that the general nature and energies of a mantra can be changed this drastically by planetary transits and the sign of the moon.
So while it does influence them to a degree, I would believe that this is rather in a manifestive sense. Basically the energies themselves stay the same when it comes to vibrating them into yourself and feeling them, but they will differ in their manifestive properties depending on the planetary and lunar positions and transitions, as these can be supportive, disruptive, or neutral, depending on their current positioning.

3, the enemy - they're always trying to cause confusion, if they see you doing something harmful they may stop attacking to give you the illusion that it's positive, but the true effects may be felt later.

This is true in a sense, but not completely, and certainly not in every situation. The enemy has many tricks they pull, and what they are able to pull on you specifically, depends on your level of advancement and how well you protect yourself.
For instance I barely ever have to deal with enemy attacks at this point, unless I leave myself vulnerable by doing something stupid. The Gods also take care of our protection to varying degrees based on how much we personally need, and based on how much work we are doing for our cause and to win this war.
So while some people can be deluded in this manner, through having the enemy give an illusion of positivity, this does not apply to everyone.

You should always take these things into account.

I certainly have, should, and will take them into account. The only thing I had missed was the possibility of wrongful personal interpretation of sanskrit words on the sites like spokensanskrit.org, that I use. Thankfully you have made me aware of that.

Not trying to discourage you or anything, just making you a bit more aware of things, so you'll get better results from your experimentations, just as how people build labs so they can isolate their experiments for better results, you should try to take into account all external and internal influences.

I completely agree.

Overall just take your time and don't try to rush to get these things out, test it multiple times see if the results always remains consistent, also would help if you shared the moon phase and sign in which you did these.

This is a good idea. I will test any new mantras multiple times from now on just to be safe.

 

[cosmictraveler666]

Mageson, previously you said not to use Sanskrit to curse because it will stick to the soul (in regards to Saturn). Does this apply to Vinasa aswell, being Sanskrit?

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

Dear brothers and sisters, Please do not use Vinada on yourself, is destructive!

I used it last night 9x9 times focusing on banishing enemy energies and entities. I felt angry as i focused on them and felt sad after the ritual. Guessing this is a bad sign and to stop?

 

[Wotanwarrior]

Dear brothers and sisters, Please do not use Vinada on yourself, is destructive!

I used it last night 9x9 times focusing on banishing enemy energies and entities. I felt angry as i focused on them and felt sad after the ritual. Guessing this is a bad sign and to stop?

Use it to banish enemy entities but never on yourself, if you feel any negative effects use Surya to counter negative energies.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

The entire thing that Vinasa does is to completely erase and destroy a soul. Using it on yourself is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

Dear brothers and sisters, Please do not use Vinada on yourself, is destructive!

I used it last night 9x9 times focusing on banishing enemy energies and entities. I felt angry as i focused on them and felt sad after the ritual. Guessing this is a bad sign and to stop?

Use it to banish enemy entities but never on yourself, if you feel any negative effects use Surya to counter negative energies.

Thank you i actually did a extra round of surya yesterday

 

[Wayofthegods]

I never used this personally, nor I was aware of it, but it appears this means destruction and death or something. Stay away from this thing. Vinasa, Vinaza means death.

Its one of these bullshit that people somehow created and then took a life of its own in the groups.

I also wanted to add that this is listed only for external use.

This is listed as a death mantra. Do not use on yourselves.

People got it from the site. The webpage The Banishing Ritual was updated in 2015 with it.

https://www.templeofzeus.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Banishing.html

Yes but it nowhere states for it to be used ON someone, let alone on one's self. This is something people have came up with randomly on their own.

It clearly states this is for banishing. So the idea that this was for use on someone was created from someone else, or overly represented around.

This is for external use for banishing ghosts and other enemy influences.

Please make sure to double check things before doing so. Better use Ansuz for purposes like that.

Oh I see what you're saying. Yeah I've used it 9 reps to clear a room. Never used it on myself.

 

[Gearshift]

Well considering this thread is over a year old.

I've always wondered something. If such things pop up i.e. Vinasa/Vinaza blasting on ones self *IF* used incorrectly. Then why was the banishing ritual changed to the chants?

The old banish ritual required the Sigils of Flauros and Haraus(think?) you place them on your altar or space with a candle. You have a prayer to burn ready asking Satan to empower and bless both of these Demons and to come to your house to banish and then bless the area.

Then you visualize electric blue energy filling the house like a stream around the corners and basically engulf the house in electric blue energy.

I know the obvious is the Gods are busy but then again it seems like even some people continue to have trouble with banishing rituals and entities popping back in.

So why was the old banishing ritual changed? What makes our efforts so powerful we can take it on ourselves to do it? and if we can do it why do people still encounter issues?

 

[Henu the Great]

I used this mantra for a very evil man. Multiple times. The soul of this man is evil !! But now I had a fear. Is it possible that my intent was wrong? Has Vinasa eliminated evil and man continues to live merrily? My goal was to make the enemy disappear physically.
Excuse me, if this question was stupid.

99% of your posts are about black magick, and destruction. Do you do anything else beside cursing?

 

[Berserker]

Yes, I do many other things as well. I have only one such job which is a very difficult case and that is why I want to study this job. Not a game.

 

[Shael]

I used this mantra for a very evil man. Multiple times. The soul of this man is evil !! But now I had a fear. Is it possible that my intent was wrong? Has Vinasa eliminated evil and man continues to live merrily? My goal was to make the enemy disappear physically.
Excuse me, if this question was stupid.

I mean, in pure theory it could work, though it would of course take a lot of time and energy to do what is essentially a form of a deathspell. Vinasa eliminates what you target, so if you targeted him with it then yes it should work in theory, with enough time.

Be aware that using Vinasa regularly, and especially in high repetitions, could be harmful to you. So watch out for any negative effects. You can use Surya or Raum to clean yourself from any bad energies, if you feel that something shitty has stuck to you.

 

[Jay216]

Vinasa is destruction and death; what about the reverse - Asaniv? I would not expect it to get males pregnant, and hopefully not encourage cancer etc. cells, but it should, logically, be for creation and life/birth/growth, yes?

‘Has-haneev’ is what I did in x9, x10, x100 and x216 in a non-voc moon/non-mercury rx. Obviously, I made a big mistake.. I created an account just to reply to you. Very important. Ave Victoria!

 

[FancyMancy]

Vinasa is destruction and death; what about the reverse - Asaniv? I would not expect it to get males pregnant, and hopefully not encourage cancer etc. cells, but it should, logically, be for creation and life/birth/growth, yes?

‘Has-haneev’ is what I did in x9, x10, x100 and x216 in a non-voc moon/non-mercury rx. Obviously, I made a big mistake.. I created an account just to reply to you. Very important. Ave Victoria!

Well, thanks. I am not versed well in Astrology - dare I ask what the mistake was? (It's not obvious to me.) I don't think during non-Moon VoC is a mistake. What happened because of or despite the mistake? Who/what did you use it on? If anything is too personal or is identifying, then nevermind.

 

[Jay216]

Vinasa is destruction and death; what about the reverse - Asaniv? I would not expect it to get males pregnant, and hopefully not encourage cancer etc. cells, but it should, logically, be for creation and life/birth/growth, yes?

‘Has-haneev’ is what I did in x9, x10, x100 and x216 in a non-voc moon/non-mercury rx. Obviously, I made a big mistake.. I created an account just to reply to you. Very important. Ave Victoria!

Well, thanks. I am not versed well in Astrology - dare I ask what the mistake was? (It's not obvious to me.) I don't think during non-Moon VoC is a mistake. What happened because of or despite the mistake? Who/what did you use it on? If anything is too personal or is identifying, then nevermind.

Oh wow.. Ok so, I have a learning disability and I miss read what you said… I go too fast. I thought you were implying that you used it wrong, but you didn’t. That’s why I was stating how important it was that I told you… My mistake.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Poisonous, very dangerous. Both forward and backward, still just as dangerous. There is no benefit.

 

[FancyMancy]

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Alright, then.