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tappouzumaki

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i have venus retrograde in scorpio, that trine with saturn retrograde in pisces

(venus has also a conjunction with sun)


My question is:
1- am i destined to wait until I'm 30 to have a decent relationship with a girl?

(i'm 18)

2- the cabalistic table for venus may be helpful?

Hail Satan!
 
It really depends on the house positions and other aspects. Having Venus conjunct the Sun is very good all by itself and should help at that. Do you have more retrograde planets? Which houses do your retrograde planets rule? Is Saturn in the 5th or 7th house? If Venus rules any of the relationship houses or the 5th house of romance, then that may really be a problem; if not, the real problem may lie in other area of your life.

All by itself, Venus retrograde and in aspect with Saturn (especially a trine) can indicate apathy towards relationships or social contact in general, which can lead to isolation. However, the trine shouldn't make you suffer for that.

If your chart shows a strong disposition towards being social and enjoying social contact, like your Venus conjunction with the Sun does, then you may not have any problems with this at all. But of course, you can change anything you want, through the squares, other meditations and learning how to deal with it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tappouzumaki" wrote:

i have venus retrograde in scorpio, that trine with saturn retrograde in pisces

(venus has also a conjunction with sun)


My question is:
1- am i destined to wait until I'm 30 to have a decent relationship with a girl?

(i'm 18)

2- the cabalistic table for venus may be helpful?

Hail Satan!
 
--Retrograde
venus-saturn-n.node
--Intercepted houses
scorpio and taurus ( 4/scorpio/5 10/taurus/11 )
so leo(ascendant)in 1-2
acquarium in 7-8

--positions of planets
saturn - 8 house - in pisces---- trine with venus

mars - 1 house - leo------------ square with sun and n.node

venus, sun, n.node, jupiter, pluto----4 house - scorpio(intercepted)

venus conjunct sun, sun conjunct n.node and jupiter, jupiter conjunct pluto

sun square with mars and sextile with moon
jupiter sextile with uranus and neptune


moon,uranus and neptune - 6 house - capricorn---------
they are conjuncted all together

at the end mercury - libra - also 4 house-----opposition with Mc
Mc square with uranus and neptune

there are planets only in 1-4-6-8 houses


SO you said
""Venus retrograde and in aspect with Saturn (especially a trine) can indicate apathy towards relationships or social contact in general, which can lead to isolation.""
yes

I have a few friends (but we are super-friends) and for the other people i feel indifference
it isn't a problem for me, cause boring and stupid people deserve only my apathy
BUT
i am also leo-mars and i like to stay at the center of attention.
this create contrast sometimes...
there is something I can do about these contrast?

and
there is a girl that I like. she is in my class

I just do not feel like talking to her ... it's unconscious, I think it is that for the reason you said, for the scorpion intercepted with sun and venus , and maybe mercury opposed to Mc

there is something I can do about?
but... sometimes i think apathy is not bad cause is the fault of others that do not stimulate me with their boring talk...also this girl...a lot of people are annoying

at the end i do not know if the problem is my or of some other people...
maybe one day i will find an intersting girl?


Hail Satan!
 
With the majority of planets in the lower part of the chart you do have a stronger introspective nature, the constrast is understandable. However, Mars does counterbalance that, so it's possible that, when in a situation where assertion is necessary, you won't fail even being so introspective. You know how to deal with things on your own. With age and expecience your need for attention will probably be toned down or focused towards something else; there are many ways to be the center of attention.

As for friends and people in general, this feeling you described is common to people with Venus-Saturn aspects (myself included). The good part of having Saturn in aspect with Venus is that those who are called friends, usually remain friends for a very long time, no matter what happens; the same with relationships. With Saturn things are long lasting and very resilient. Your Capricorn Moon surely prefers quality over quantity, for you are slow to trust, and conjunct Uranus and Neptune, you might prefer unusual people by your side.

And the girl... well, I'm 18 too and I know that when we're young, we feel like we seriously need someone. Attraction suddenly grows to "something else" and we're left actionless. Nevertheless, with time I believe most of us will come to know what we really want from life... if it's people or other stuff. It's perfectly ok to not want people - and to be alone, for that matter. If you have people you trust by your side, only surprises remain. It's not much of a problem, it's just a matter of seing things from a different perspective.

If throughout your life you come to find someone who catches your interest and understands your position in these things, all the better. It's very possible, astrologically speaking, that you will find someone sooner or later, just maybe not now. If you really don't think this girl's worth your time, then don't do anything, just try to let the feeling go. Focus on other stuff etc.

Despite all that, I need to say this again, you can change whatever you want, if you really want, through meditation and spells; things will only unfold in certain ways if you let them. Also, take care with the data you post about yourself, it can be dangerous.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tappouzumaki" wrote:


--Retrograde
venus-saturn-n.node
--Intercepted houses
scorpio and taurus ( 4/scorpio/5 10/taurus/11 )
so leo(ascendant)in 1-2
acquarium in 7-8

--positions of planets
saturn - 8 house - in pisces---- trine with venus

mars - 1 house - leo------------ square with sun and n.node

venus, sun, n.node, jupiter, pluto----4 house - scorpio(intercepted)

venus conjunct sun, sun conjunct n.node and jupiter, jupiter conjunct pluto

sun square with mars and sextile with moon
jupiter sextile with uranus and neptune


moon,uranus and neptune - 6 house - capricorn---------
they are conjuncted all together

at the end mercury - libra - also 4 house-----opposition with Mc
Mc square with uranus and neptune

there are planets only in 1-4-6-8 houses


SO you said
""Venus retrograde and in aspect with Saturn (especially a trine) can indicate apathy towards relationships or social contact in general, which can lead to isolation.""
yes

I have a few friends (but we are super-friends) and for the other people i feel indifference
it isn't a problem for me, cause boring and stupid people deserve only my apathy
BUT
i am also leo-mars and i like to stay at the center of attention.
this create contrast sometimes...
there is something I can do about these contrast?

and
there is a girl that I like. she is in my class

I just do not feel like talking to her ... it's unconscious, I think it is that for the reason you said, for the scorpion intercepted with sun and venus , and maybe mercury opposed to Mc

there is something I can do about?
but... sometimes i think apathy is not bad cause is the fault of others that do not stimulate me with their boring talk...also this girl...a lot of people are annoying

at the end i do not know if the problem is my or of some other people...
maybe one day i will find an intersting girl?


Hail Satan!
 
yes it's right
i will try to say affirmations like
"a very beautiful and intersting girl comes in my life"


"""you can change whatever you want,"""
i do not need really to change
frequently what you want in truth is what society wants (stereotypes)

are the Christian religion and the mass media that tells us "you're wrong" "you have to change" ecc
We have to accept ourselves as we are,
and meanwhile meditate and improve us




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" wrote:

With the majority of planets in the lower part of the chart you do have a stronger introspective nature, the constrast is understandable. However, Mars does counterbalance that, so it's possible that, when in a situation where assertion is necessary, you won't fail even being so introspective. You know how to deal with things on your own. With age and expecience your need for attention will probably be toned down or focused towards something else; there are many ways to be the center of attention.

As for friends and people in general, this feeling you described is common to people with Venus-Saturn aspects (myself included). The good part of having Saturn in aspect with Venus is that those who are called friends, usually remain friends for a very long time, no matter what happens; the same with relationships. With Saturn things are long lasting and very resilient. Your Capricorn Moon surely prefers quality over quantity, for you are slow to trust, and conjunct Uranus and Neptune, you might prefer unusual people by your side.

And the girl... well, I'm 18 too and I know that when we're young, we feel like we seriously need someone. Attraction suddenly grows to "something else" and we're left actionless. Nevertheless, with time I believe most of us will come to know what we really want from life... if it's people or other stuff. It's perfectly ok to not want people - and to be alone, for that matter. If you have people you trust by your side, only surprises remain. It's not much of a problem, it's just a matter of seing things from a different perspective.

If throughout your life you come to find someone who catches your interest and understands your position in these things, all the better. It's very possible, astrologically speaking, that you will find someone sooner or later, just maybe not now. If you really don't think this girl's worth your time, then don't do anything, just try to let the feeling go. Focus on other stuff etc.

Despite all that, I need to say this again, you can change whatever you want, if you really want, through meditation and spells; things will only unfold in certain ways if you let them. Also, take care with the data you post about yourself, it can be dangerous.
 
Ok venus is not in retrograde in my chart but I want the same thing. A Relationship can I affirm in the affirmation what planets are strong in this persons chart that I want to attract or is there something else to do with this, like Neptune and Uranus combination would be perfect for me is there any way to affirm or use these planets for this.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tappouzumaki" wrote:

yes it's right
i will try to say affirmations like
"a very beautiful and intersting girl comes in my life"


"""you can change whatever you want,"""
i do not need really to change
frequently what you want in truth is what society wants (stereotypes)

are the Christian religion and the mass media that tells us "you're wrong" "you have to change" ecc
We have to accept ourselves as we are,
and meanwhile meditate and improve us




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" wrote:

With the majority of planets in the lower part of the chart you do have a stronger introspective nature, the constrast is understandable. However, Mars does counterbalance that, so it's possible that, when in a situation where assertion is necessary, you won't fail even being so introspective. You know how to deal with things on your own. With age and expecience your need for attention will probably be toned down or focused towards something else; there are many ways to be the center of attention.

As for friends and people in general, this feeling you described is common to people with Venus-Saturn aspects (myself included). The good part of having Saturn in aspect with Venus is that those who are called friends, usually remain friends for a very long time, no matter what happens; the same with relationships. With Saturn things are long lasting and very resilient. Your Capricorn Moon surely prefers quality over quantity, for you are slow to trust, and conjunct Uranus and Neptune, you might prefer unusual people by your side.

And the girl... well, I'm 18 too and I know that when we're young, we feel like we seriously need someone. Attraction suddenly grows to "something else" and we're left actionless. Nevertheless, with time I believe most of us will come to know what we really want from life... if it's people or other stuff. It's perfectly ok to not want people - and to be alone, for that matter. If you have people you trust by your side, only surprises remain. It's not much of a problem, it's just a matter of seing things from a different perspective.

If throughout your life you come to find someone who catches your interest and understands your position in these things, all the better. It's very possible, astrologically speaking, that you will find someone sooner or later, just maybe not now. If you really don't think this girl's worth your time, then don't do anything, just try to let the feeling go. Focus on other stuff etc.

Despite all that, I need to say this again, you can change whatever you want, if you really want, through meditation and spells; things will only unfold in certain ways if you let them. Also, take care with the data you post about yourself, it can be dangerous.
 
Indigo, just use "my ideal partner". You don't need to get caught up in the details, that could backfire.

And Tappouzumaki, that could very well not be a relationship, sicne you didn't specify *how* she is in your life. Sure, it could bring a beautiful and interesting girl into your life, but she might be your cousin lol! Or a friend's gf. You need to include that it will be a romantic relationship for you.

"In a positive and healthy manner for me, I am in a loving relationship with my ideal partner. We are very happy together".


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Indigo Nation" wrote:

Ok venus is not in retrograde in my chart but I want the same thing. A Relationship can I affirm in the affirmation what planets are strong in this persons chart that I want to attract or is there something else to do with this, like Neptune and Uranus combination would be perfect for me is there any way to affirm or use these planets for this.
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tappouzumaki" wrote:

yes it's right
i will try to say affirmations like
"a very beautiful and intersting girl comes in my life"


"""you can change whatever you want,"""
i do not need really to change
frequently what you want in truth is what society wants (stereotypes)

are the Christian religion and the mass media that tells us "you're wrong" "you have to change" ecc
We have to accept ourselves as we are,
and meanwhile meditate and improve us




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" wrote:

With the majority of planets in the lower part of the chart you do have a stronger introspective nature, the constrast is understandable. However, Mars does counterbalance that, so it's possible that, when in a situation where assertion is necessary, you won't fail even being so introspective. You know how to deal with things on your own. With age and expecience your need for attention will probably be toned down or focused towards something else; there are many ways to be the center of attention.

As for friends and people in general, this feeling you described is common to people with Venus-Saturn aspects (myself included). The good part of having Saturn in aspect with Venus is that those who are called friends, usually remain friends for a very long time, no matter what happens; the same with relationships. With Saturn things are long lasting and very resilient. Your Capricorn Moon surely prefers quality over quantity, for you are slow to trust, and conjunct Uranus and Neptune, you might prefer unusual people by your side.

And the girl... well, I'm 18 too and I know that when we're young, we feel like we seriously need someone. Attraction suddenly grows to "something else" and we're left actionless. Nevertheless, with time I believe most of us will come to know what we really want from life... if it's people or other stuff. It's perfectly ok to not want people - and to be alone, for that matter. If you have people you trust by your side, only surprises remain. It's not much of a problem, it's just a matter of seing things from a different perspective.

If throughout your life you come to find someone who catches your interest and understands your position in these things, all the better. It's very possible, astrologically speaking, that you will find someone sooner or later, just maybe not now. If you really don't think this girl's worth your time, then don't do anything, just try to let the feeling go. Focus on other stuff etc.

Despite all that, I need to say this again, you can change whatever you want, if you really want, through meditation and spells; things will only unfold in certain ways if you let them. Also, take care with the data you post about yourself, it can be dangerous.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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