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The Obesity Epidemic In The West

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos7 min to read

Speaking of epidemics and pandemics and all this, one major epidemic malfunction of the human body has been left unaddressed in the West and that is obesity.

It has went completely out of control for decades, costing the lives and quality of life of millions, yet nobody really cares.

Obesity is an illness, in the same way anorexia can be one.

We are not talking chubby here and being even fat, we are talking about being obese to the point one has health problems or it can cause fatality.

The West claims it has a spiritual thing called "Christianity" but as it appears the main religion of the Westerners currently is only cheeseburgers.

It is an illness of spirit and the soul first, and then these disorganized energies manifest in the body through overt consumption of what is negative and causes this result. For people to reach these extends, life has to be empty, and the brain must be truly depressed.

One cannot reasonably reach amounts like 1000 lbs and reach this point while they have been ok. Many people are allowed to get into this without any support and they merely destroy themselves. To cover this up, we say some random Western bullshit like "Muh Free Will" to cover out this spiritual deficiency that is eating people's soul bit by bit.

To end up like this one exercises literally the opposite of any free will. One is a slave to certain false pleasures that degrade a person. Free will is the opposite of this. Regardless we have been confused about free will and this claim is only used when people want to do either irrelevant or bad stuff.

The obesity epidemic is a reflection of the epidemic of imbalanced energies in the West.

To give an extent of how crazy some people have become, I have watched a documentary years ago where a person had a child, that was about 12 years old and morbidly obese. The child was asleep most of the day, and then they woke up to eat about 5 whole chickens.

The mother refused to stop it's intake even after the doctors explained that the child was at high risk for heart attack. Remaining obese, the heart couldn't hold and the poor child died within a year or so. While that doesn't register as murder, it is something very close to this.

Needless to say this situation reflects upon us all collectively in what type of monsters certain people have become, gulping things down to the point we fall into a semi-asleep state half their lifetime from eating too much.

Everyone is clearly advised as a Zevist to find the courage to escape this scourge. Do not be ashamed. There are even Gods who will help you with this.

It is almost guaranteed if you have problems with depression, lethargy or other issues and that you are obese, these can come from obesity and nothing else. Your immune system and other aspects of yourself suffer pointlessly over this.

It is all reversible, and there are ways to reverse this one step at a time. Even keeping this on the "very chubby" level, can keep you healthy and sane. Obesity should be seen as an illness, not merely as a state of the body. The organs literally suffer in this state.

Anorexia, the other latter end of this can cause also considerable and rather similar issues. Lethargy, flying in and out of sleep randomly, being too weak to do anything etc.

From a metaphysical standpoint the obesity epidemic not only points to a totally false lifestyle, but a lifestyle that has is literally engrossed in the material and related to the material in such a way that it's dysfunctional.

If one is older than let's say 50 or 60 that is far more acceptable as one might not have the time to deal with this, but please, especially if you are young, take this in consideration and act now. Relatives and others might be living in denial of this, I know, and how this occurs can be seen in shows such as this:

I don't have time to watch this, but skimming through, these images are simply disastrous. Anyhow it seems that these people are trying to get better and that's a good message to push.

These are people that had their lives ruined and nobody told them to stop anything. They engrossed themselves in too much Jupiter, and yes, Jupiter energy can be deadly.

They must somehow have enjoyed reaching that state in a pathological way, but like hard drugs and other false enjoyments that come without measure, death or getting permanently disfigured or disabled can be the only outcome.

As we can see from this video even these situations ARE reversible, so don't lose hope. Meditations can be used to also affect this and many people have used meditation for weight loss and optimizing the body, and they have worked.

The United States now is to where child obesity with some European countries is literally killing people. Yet all you'll see on TV is nonsense about the Co-Vid and other total crap. Nobody that would be fit and has a decent health would die from Co-Vid or these things if people were healthier.

Of course, if one is at this state, anything can spell their death really quickly, including a simple coronavirus.

However, big pharma wants you in a condition where your exploitation is at a maximum from them. Doctors pretend like nothing of this is beyond the realm of normal, but that is totally insane. Protect yourself and others from these scourges and even if necessary, become evil if certain people do not listen.

However be careful as many people in this condition can be emotionally sensitive and take hard corrections and internalize them, accelerating their negative condition. Please do take efforts to maintain optimal weight, these are what real epidemics look like, but nobody cares anymore.

Remember that Zevism is about balance. You don't have to become like Arnold Schwarzenegger, although that would teach someone a lot of discipline and empower them. But as a Zevist one must understand the value of health and so on.

Crazy people tell you today that this is "Authoritarian" to tell to other people, but what they do allowing people to get so fat their hearts explode is utterly parasitic and evil. That is careless. It's sign of inner decadence to not care for anyone else to such high extent, that you literally see them approaching 1000 lbs and you don't tell them they must seek help.

We live in a crazy world where certain people want to turn you into a pod living, brainchip wearing, landwhale that weighs 1000 lbs so they can feed off of you and sell your stories in shows. Do not allow this to happen.

They tell people that's even the path to "pleasure" and that this is great, but in reality, these people suffer tremendously, and to such extents they can no longer understand. They are lying to everyone. Do not fall for this.

Clownworld must not consume any of us. Likewise we cannot afford to be consumed by the Clownworld.

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#21

It's sad that so many comics nowadays are also filled with this crap....There's the constant "fatphobia" or... I think it was "fat-ism" or something similar (like sexism, racism....). They constantly promote people being fat like something good and "their choice". I'm happy to read obesity as an epidemic. It makes sense.

I have personally gained 7 kilos ever since I stopped one of my jobs where I was walking a lot, lot. I have not lost those kilos because I am not really trying (the problem with me is that I am very physically inactive). And still, I can tell you that it's very disgusting when the body becomes so fat... I am not obese, but I am at the most fat I've been in my life.

It's just horrible, but seeing how I'm not doing anything physical about it... And knowing three more people who are in the same boat as me... I think it's easier than one might think to get bad.

I didn't watch the video yet, and although I did gained these kilos, I have not gained more, despite being like this for over 10 months now (and eating the same amount as before). It's beyond me how people can become obese, but I can see how they can become fat to the point of not caring anymore to do something about it.

But in order to become obese, one must really eat all day long, or disgustingly big amounts of food.

I will watch the video. Thank you for this sermon.

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#22

This is where legislation forcing healthier foods is to the benefit of society and price adjustments to make unhealthy more expensive than healthy. Organic food being promoted.

That would fix this.

#23

I myself though am at a loss for words as to why so much unhealthy stuff is seen as normal without people realizing they are being subverted.

Drugs- yeah awesome smoke some weed man.
Being fat: This is freedom and being strong or something.
Watching TV most the time or spending most the time on internet not connected to reality:
It's great 👍
Going outside interacting with the world= Bad I almost am starting to agree with this one considering how much unhealthy and bad stuff is being promoted.

It's crazy out there.

#24

There is a serious Obesity Epidemic in USA. I'm not talking about chubby southerns living in the country side, I mean everyone is turning into a sumo or a manlet.

Exercise is pushed as the magically cure to having a beer belly, but in reality spending an hour a day at the gym isn't going to make your burn enough calories to go down a pants size. Although going to the Gym is good for gaining strength and stamina.

Lots of foods have toxic additives like Aspartame, MSG, Food Preservatives (sodium benzoate etc.), Gluten (toxic makes you spit mucus), Anti foaming agent ect.

Seed based oils are often known to be toxic as they are refined in a weird manner and some seeds naturally are toxic to stop birds from eating them.

Also being overweight could be a spiritual / lifestyle issue more so than solely gluttony. There is something seriously wrong how people live in America. Their culture and way of life is just materialism and being an NPC, at least more so in the big metro areas.

I don't think people are fat from eating too much meat, there are some people that do high protein hunter gather diets and don't get fat.

#25

Religion of cheeseburger? more like; Cult of C O N S U M E :P

#26
Aquariussaid:

On reddit there was a post of a person who went against the fat acceptance theme because he said it ruined his life and health.
There was also a member here who claims I kicked him out because I told him that being fat doesn't make you a warrior, like the dude legitimately thought that being fat made him a warrior, guy can't even walk 3 steps without gasping for air and considers himself a warrior, this is literal brainwashing against anything that is logical.

Guess he thought he could be like Darlene from dead rising 3.

#27
Stormbloodsaid:
Jihiji12said:

Yeah its crazy the extent these people go to lie to themselves and others that theyre healthy and okay.

There was this celebrity, Adele i believe but I'm not sure, who was big then lost weight and tried to express how much better she felt and encourage others

People seemed emotionally hurt by this and even went as far as to call her "fat-phobic" and say she "shouldn't have gave into pressure"

But my hydrogenated fats and high sugar! That's my daily 3-storeys cake we're talking about! And my quintuple bacon cheeseburger :lol:

Well those burgers are pretty good

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#28
NakedPlutosaid:
Lydia [JGsaid:

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I know a woman who is "fat" by most standards. She goes to USA every year to visit family, and she says every time she arrives in USA she feels skinny.

Walking is a safe and effective way for obese people to lose weight. Just get out and walk for an hour daily, then increase the time. Whatever it takes to lose weight. Affirmations too for any Zevism here. Something like "In healthy and beneficial ways for me, I am effectively losing excess fat and reaching an ideal body weight".

I knew a girl very obese, everytime she appeared out of nowhere I would be shocked involuntary. Everytime I forgot what I was doing, thinking, anything. Very strange and shocking to normality. I always felt like an asshole but truly it was involuntary. I think she was over 150kgs.

I heard that she can't have kids anymore because she is that fat, and the more shocking part is that being obese wanted kids. She is married to a man that was a model, and saw a pattern of beautiful men being very attracted to obese women. He told me one time that he expects her to be bigger as he loves for her to bring more weight to the table. :lol:

I've heard of this before, beautiful fit men being attracted to obese women! I don't understand it.

#30
Aquariussaid:
Fuchssaid:
Soaring Eagle 666 [JGsaid:

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This is very true. In addition, obesity, and eating unhealthy food, ages people faster. I've seen obese teenagers who look like they're in their 30s! It reminds me of the study on monkeys many years ago, in which some monkeys had a calorie-restricted diet and others could eat as much as they wanted. Needles to say those ones got fat, but also their bodies were years older physically at the same age.

If you starve a little, your body does reduce his biorhythm, meaning you age slower, some yogis starve out of this reason.

Starving is gonna hurt your health, what you probably mean is fasting, but that is also gonna hurt your health.

It depends how much you are fasting. Everyone fasts every night after their last meal until breakfast. That's a minor form of what is called intermittent fasting. That's a natural 11/13 to 13/11 split for people with healthy sleeping habits (i.e. sleeping around 8-9 hours a night, finishing your last meal 3 hours before sleep time, and so on). It can easily become the one-size-fits-all most recommended split for females (14/11) if someone doesn't eat immediately upon waking (which they shouldn't anyway).

Other splits of intermittent fasting are also good for some people, mainly those who don't need several mini-meals in a day but are more suited to 2/3 big meals. The most suggested, one-size-fits-all for males is 16/8. If I wear to do that with proper sleeping habits AND my personal ideal sleeping schedule, it would be easy to do because:

:arrow: Sleep time: between 20:00-04:00 and 21:30-05:30
:arrow: Last meal: 17:00 to 18:30 (depending on the sleep schedule)
:arrow: Eating window on the 16/8 split: between 09:00-17:00 and 10:30-18:30

Very easy to follow if one applies to it. Between waking up and breakfast, I could meditate, work out, prepare to work/study and go to work/study. Having a drink like herbal teas or coffee doesn't interrupt fasting, so it's allowed. I don't drink coffee anyway but I love some herbal blends. A 10:30 breakfast is basically a mid-morning snack, but it's still good for me as I eat Greek yogurt with almonds or walnuts for breakfast anyway. It's a fast, healthy option that can be eaten during a 5-minute break at work or uni.

This is my personal ideal schedule, which I manage to follow when I am not 'on fire' during the night and when no other circumstances outside of my control happen. This is not a suggestion nor a recommendation, as the ideal healthiest sleep schedule changes from person to person, within reason of obviously not going to sleep past 23:00, as that's not for humans. I emphasise again, IDEAL. Life circumstances can and often prevent people from not only finding out what works best for them, but also applying it. Things such as work, for example, that nowadays isn't health-oriented in most cases and with overtime, especially unpaid overtime, many people are subjected to do because many employers generally do not care about providing sufficient and adequate compensation, due to ridiculous capitalistic and/or communist mindset (both systems aim to keep employees poor anyway, and financial education isn't popular enough either).

Anyway, back to intermittent fasting. Nothing difficult or unhealthy. If anything, it's healthier to do "intermittent fasting" than what most people do, and this a normal eating schedule for many people in many countries. In some countries, they even dinner as early as 15:00 or 16:00, and they eat nothing afterward. Some will have dinner immediately upon finishing work and getting home, especially in Northern countries. The culture of late dinners is usually a bad Southern habit from places like Spain, Southern Italy, Greece, for example.

Now, obviously, if we move to more restrictive eating windows like 18/6 or even 20/4, it becomes much more difficult to adhere to. It can be unhealthy in some cases, depending on your physiological needs. In other cases, it's fine. No general statement can be made as you are still eating anyway. If you skip an entire day, that is no longer intermittent fasting and, honestly, I would not even call it fasting but starvation and malnourishment.

A reminder that intermittent fasting is about eating all your daily calorie needs within a certain window, not about skipping meals and undernourishment.

Just like any healthy option for eating schedules, adaptations can take from a few days to a few weeks, depending on various factors, such as your metabolism.

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#31

I want to give a little advice to people who are a bit fatter than they should be or want to be.

My little story - I weighed 95kgs at 175cm height 2 years ago. I've been trying to "eat less" and "exercise more". Me and my friend stayed at the gym for 2-3 hours 3 days a week, most of the time we were doing cardio. I was eating roughly 3k cal every day. I had meals like people usually do - breakfast, lunch and dinner and had some snacks. You know how much I lost in half a year of really hard exercises? 4 (four) kilos.

That wasn't worth the effort. Later on I tried eating OMAD - one meal a day. Basically intermittent fasting 23/1. I lost 16 kilos in four months doing that and goying to the gym for my usual 30-50 min workouts 2-3 times a week. I was only doing 5 minutes cardio.
Now I know what you think because I heard this argument when I tried to explain to people - But YOu wILl bE STarVInG aLL DaY. No. After your organism adapts to new schedule (which takes exactly one day), you will only feel hunger ONCE a day - right before your meal, which is how it should be.

There are additional benefits and explanations how that works. If you want to know more - I'd suggest you watch this guy https://youtu.be/PKfR6bAXr-c or just search OMAD.
I have already read multiple times on this and the russian jos forum that fasting is not healthy, which I can't agree with because - wasn't that how our ancestors lived? Weren't they eating 1-2 times a day max? I think a regular guy from 100+ years ago would be considered RIPPED by today's standarts.

#32
Aquariussaid:
Fuchssaid:
Soaring Eagle 666 [JGsaid:

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This is very true. In addition, obesity, and eating unhealthy food, ages people faster. I've seen obese teenagers who look like they're in their 30s! It reminds me of the study on monkeys many years ago, in which some monkeys had a calorie-restricted diet and others could eat as much as they wanted. Needles to say those ones got fat, but also their bodies were years older physically at the same age.

If you starve a little, your body does reduce his biorhythm, meaning you age slower, some yogis starve out of this reason.

Starving is gonna hurt your health, what you probably mean is fasting, but that is also gonna hurt your health.

I did mean you eat every day as much, that you are still a little hungry. I did watch a interview about a jogi between 97- 117 jears old if I remember right he did this so he does not age as fast as if he would eat normal. He did have a totaly clear mind, etc.

"Human beings must become enlightened in order to find their way in the dark. Becoming enlightened means becoming smart travelers, who acquire knowledge of the way, an understanding of the local language and friendship with other travelers. We are all travelers in eternity." Thoth

#33

The question has been asked several times and the answer should interest the Zevism.
Do Jupiter squares cause weight gain?

Is it mainly the spiritual squares or the material squares?

Is the statement "In a safe and healthy way for me" enough to avoid weight gain due to Jupiter energies?

Jupiter is already my Chart Ruler and I have started a series of Jupiter squares, I would really like to avoid weight gain!!

Thank you !

#34
SShiva_frsaid:

The question has been asked several times and the answer should interest the Zevism.
Do Jupiter squares cause weight gain?

Is it mainly the spiritual squares or the material squares?

Is the statement "In a safe and healthy way for me" enough to avoid weight gain due to Jupiter energies?

Under normal circumstances, no. However, if you notice any such event and you see that it's not a theoretical but realistic knowledge, you might want to compensate with an opposite energy in meditation, such as Mars or something similar.

Unless explicitly used to increase your weight, it won't. But it might empower the placement of Jupiter in your own Chart, which, if it's for example Conjunct Moon or opposition Sun, could increase weight depending on the use of the square and if you used it directly to empower the influence of said planet natally.

It depends in simpler words on the use, but generally, no. The affirmation of healthy and positive here would safeguard from further unwanted outcomes, yes.

#35
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:
SShiva_frsaid:

The question has been asked several times and the answer should interest the Zevism.
Do Jupiter squares cause weight gain?

Is it mainly the spiritual squares or the material squares?

Is the statement "In a safe and healthy way for me" enough to avoid weight gain due to Jupiter energies?

Under normal circumstances, no. However, if you notice any such event and you see that it's not a theoretical but realistic knowledge, you might want to compensate with an opposite energy in meditation, such as Mars or something similar.

Unless explicitly used to increase your weight, it won't. But it might empower the placement of Jupiter in your own Chart, which, if it's for example Conjunct Moon or opposition Sun, could increase weight depending on the use of the square and if you used it directly to empower the influence of said planet natally.

Thank you very much for your answer HP.

Haha no, I definitely don't want to gain weight. I don't know if it was HPS Pythia who wrote this but I seem to have read :
"I noticed that the ones with Jupiter as the Chart Ruler were tall and strong"
And that is perfectly the case! So no, no extra pounds! :D

#36
Triple Sixsaid:

I have already read multiple times on this and the russian jos forum that fasting is not healthy, which I can't agree with because - wasn't that how our ancestors lived? Weren't they eating 1-2 times a day max? I think a regular guy from 100+ years ago would be considered RIPPED by today's standarts.

It depends on what time and social class you are talking about. In the Dark Ages, most of the population was really weak and ate little because of feudalism.

Before that, it depends on where. In Ancient Egypt, most people certainly ate multiple times a day, poverty was a niche phenomenon. Similar to other cradle civilisations and before. With Greece and Rome, I wouldn't be able to say much.

We never had a hunter-gatherer stage like enemy texts suggested. Atlantis/Mu/Lemuria/Kumara Kandam was likely the first civilisation and before that there were no humans. We literally started as a Gods-led civilisation. Cavemen weren't us either, but a different species.

Your best eating schedule is genetic. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. In other words, what works for you, may not work for others.

In 2016, I made my own meal plan. Lost 2 kg every week and kept it off ever since. I wasn't exactly fat. Just a little chubby. Only had to lose 8 kg to make it to my desired weight and waist circumference. I had 5 meals a day, 3 big and 2 small ones. I did not go into any caloric deficit nor did I increase my physical activity into any way. I just stayed at maintenance and kept my earlier 4 days a week of bodyweight training. Other than going into maintenance what changed was how I organised my meals and what I ate. Nothing sci-fi. Not even any magick or specific meditation.

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#37
SShiva_frsaid:

The question has been asked several times and the answer should interest the Zevism.
Do Jupiter squares cause weight gain?

Is it mainly the spiritual squares or the material squares?

Is the statement "In a safe and healthy way for me" enough to avoid weight gain due to Jupiter energies?

I've read that it could increase your sweet tooth, during the square.

I am reaching towards a green apple.

#38

This is superb HPZM

Especially like the bit about Arnie at the end, now his eating was all about discipline.

Can learn alot about healthy nutrition from bodybuilders. Just listen to that no steroids etc although most dont declare using them :lol:

Obesity is rife in Scotland also mostly in deprived areas shows up more.

#39
Baroness Blossomsaid:

Hello

Well, I'm not overweight like in that video, but my physical body makes me look quite old. On the street, on the street or on the road, everyone asks me "Are you a university student?" I don't look overweight because I'm 195 (length) and I don't look like obese people like in the video, but on the other hand, I'm afraid "I wonder if I am obesity" hımm I wonder if the venus square works for this?

Have a nice day ^^

If you are overweight you will need to look at your food intake and your physical state, No working will make you lose weight. Workings can help in certain ways, but you would really have to work on the physical plane to reverse your overweight problem.

Eat your food as natural as possible, avoid processed foods, and make sure that you get your needed nutrients inside of you is one of the most important steps in this. So if you want to make some changes, do some research into this.

The greatest blessing one can receive is their own, Thoroughly believe in thyself, do this and your soul will be your guiding star.

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#40
Stormbloodsaid:

Your best eating schedule is genetic. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. In other words, what works for you, may not work for others.

That is true, might not suit everyone.
However I would still recommend people try OMAD for a week or two - that shouldn't be too hard. And I can guarantee you will lose some fat - simply because you are used to eating small meals and won't be able to eat more calories than you really need.

The thing with usual diet advice "eat less, exercise more" is that it plain doesn't work for most people. Why? Because it's slow and when people don't see results of their work - they get discouraged and stop trying.

#41
FuckYu_666said:

If one has the time, one can understand better by looking at the SuperSizeMe documentation, it explains a lot.
(For some it may be disgusting, the equivalent of watching a man eat shit).
It shows in part that this addiction causes dysfunctions like porn.

I saw this, is this the same one as the guy eat nothing but Macdonalds for month straight.

The results were astonishing for me at that time 20