The art of Glamour - detrimental, or useful?

[tabby]

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oh, and Tabby who isn't here right now...
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Yeah, no thanks. Dealing with your bs is like willingly drowning myself in a pit of mud. I'd rather watch it play from afar than engage in it needlessly anymore. You either get your shit together and start acting like a person with their head on straight, or you continue taking up space attention whoring and mocking people who just want to see you become like a sun instead of a rotting petri dish in a lab. I'm not sorry that our interests don't resemble the latter. Whatever you care to do doesn't need my involvement, you've made that quite clear, so why should I care to comment about it when you listen to nothing but the self-hating voice in your head and deluded cheerleaders?

Your choices in whatever direction you take is your own doing, not anyone else's. The consequences also.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

Does not make it right or correct though. And claiming to be "new" and showing no growth is no excuse either..

 

[Mastermind]

Illusions, stereotypes and whatever should be broken.

Stereotypes come from pattern recognition. They are based on observing reality for a lenghty amount of time.
Of course there are exceptions to everything, however, they remain exceptions.

 

[Stormblood]

Illusions, stereotypes and whatever should be broken.

Stereotypes come from pattern recognition. They are based on observing reality for a lenghty amount of time.
Of course there are exceptions to everything, however, they remain exceptions.

But stereotypes nowadays in society are almost completely wrong, based on enemy brainwashing and degenerate patterns. For example, a man is considered such for really low-level and gross things, instead of things like true leadership and other higher manifestations of Mars, the Sun and Saturn.

 

[Soul Wings]

Btw I want to make it clear, in no way do I mean to be rude or disrespectful. I just think it's tragic when people don't even know their own identity or who or what they are

I find myself agreeing with you - mostly - though I probably wouldn't word it quite the same. I just find mostly people throw around the term "mental illness" in order to flame, rather than matter of fact (body dysmorphia is actually classified as a mental illness), though it's extremely hard to tell intent in text form. Perhaps that could be the stigma, or just how bluntly it is put? Who knows.
From my own personal experience, I feel it really shouldn't be happening, and shouldn't have happened. I was extremely lucky. I am thankful to be able to express myself freely, but I will not take it for granted.

I have not been questioning my gender since childhood though, in the grand scheme of things, that is something entirely different, and something I admittedly do not understand.
I can completely respect people's decisions to not want to get involved. In a sense, I think this is only resolved by the Higher Self, like Cobra said, it will force it's way Known one way or another. I just want people to know they are not alone in their struggles. I accept that I cannot always help fully.

I would like to mention one more thing. At one point, I was wondering if it was misinformation from my subconscious about the divine feminine/masculine. To embrace both can be a confusing, strange thing for many and I think this could be part of why people are struggling with themselves. Many, many people tend to push one aspect away. There is no proof of this of course, but I was thinking about that post about Apollo, and how people were confusing the concept of sexuality with it as well.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

How did this turn from a topic about make-up into a topic about transgenderism and other self-delusions?

Because it was clearly derailed.

I actually enjoyed this post until now and went in to see what more I could learn from others.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

Also, the loss of identity, loss of sexual identity/manifestation and desire, chaos around this is the aim and mode in which the enemy aliens operate when they assimilate a planet. They borg everything and strip the identity by controlled decay. You strip the sexual identity but give a retarded solution so the soul can survive for the reasons of illusions.

The sexual, sensorial, and identity/ego of the human is key in survival and further growth, which stand upon natural expectations and platforms. This is the enemy disrupting the roots upon which organic life exists and creating individuals such as these people, who are the perfect candidates for the future borg planet.

Also, in the future of these decisions, this is unsustainable on all levels. When one is sexually articulate and has desires, is satisfied, he has already his spectrum of traits fueled and has a basis in which he can develop in life, the ego feeds from the sexual nature, and uses it to expand and maybe reach higher. If you replace the sexual nature with mentalization and the illusion of it (with conflict), the ego is not sustained anymore and it is either on the path to the demise or on the path of decay and perversion. This creates a dependant, slave-master situation, and this is a "food" of the soul which is now replaced and denied being given otherwise.

i couldn't have said it better myself. Its about the 2nd time or so maybe the third a thread is derailed by this topic. no offense to the person in question but it needs to stop and it does border on attention whoring at this point. people ofcourse have their own free will and will believe what they will. if thus is in spite of others trying to help them see through harmful ideologies to themselves that is sadly also their choice. We cannot beat a dead horse.

i have actually spent considerable time in the country the person in question is from and it is pretty much the most promoting and accepting of this form of mental illness in the world. i think there is also cultural aspects with certain types of conditioning that have influence. my ex told me once that country has one of the highest rate of "transitions" in the world...hell even he had this mindset once and i helped snap him out of it..i hope to have played a part for him that way anyway. he also knew several others like this.

in response to Cobras asteology summary on this topic i also think saturn/sun and sun/neptune do this as well as any position that promotes self loathing. any aspects that give a debilitated or afflicted mars or venus also can do this imo combined with environmental factors like problems with the mother/father and opposite sex in general or a combination of the above.

many people go through the trans surgery and regret it..at least half commit suicide.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

Also, the loss of identity, loss of sexual identity/manifestation and desire, chaos around this is the aim and mode in which the enemy aliens operate when they assimilate a planet. They borg everything and strip the identity by controlled decay. You strip the sexual identity but give a retarded solution so the soul can survive for the reasons of illusions.

The sexual, sensorial, and identity/ego of the human is key in survival and further growth, which stand upon natural expectations and platforms. This is the enemy disrupting the roots upon which organic life exists and creating individuals such as these people, who are the perfect candidates for the future borg planet.

Also, in the future of these decisions, this is unsustainable on all levels. When one is sexually articulate and has desires, is satisfied, he has already his spectrum of traits fueled and has a basis in which he can develop in life, the ego feeds from the sexual nature, and uses it to expand and maybe reach higher. If you replace the sexual nature with mentalization and the illusion of it (with conflict), the ego is not sustained anymore and it is either on the path to the demise or on the path of decay and perversion. This creates a dependant, slave-master situation, and this is a "food" of the soul which is now replaced and denied being given otherwise.

i couldn't have said it better myself. Its about the 2nd time or so maybe the third a thread is derailed by this topic. no offense to the person in question but it needs to stop and it does border on attention whoring at this point. people ofcourse have their own free will and will believe what they will. if thus is in spite of others trying to help them see through harmful ideologies to themselves that is sadly also their choice. We cannot beat a dead horse.

i have actually spent considerable time in the country the person in question is from and it is pretty much the most promoting and accepting of this form of mental illness in the world. i think there is also cultural aspects with certain types of conditioning that have influence. my ex told me once that country has one of the highest rate of "transitions" in the world...hell even he had this mindset once and i helped snap him out of it..i hope to have played a part for him that way anyway. he also knew several others like this.

in response to Cobras asteology summary on this topic i also think saturn/sun and sun/neptune do this as well as any position that promotes self loathing. any aspects that give a debilitated or afflicted mars or venus also can do this imo combined with environmental factors like problems with the mother/father and opposite sex in general or a combination of the above.

many people go through the trans surgery and regret it..at least half commit suicide.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

Meteor... For how long have you had the feeling that you wanted to fit in?
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Since I was 3 years old.

I can't really take this anymore. As much as I try to detach myself emotionally (as I consider getting hurt by words a sign of weakness), I'm not invincible. Not to mention, several people have been very clear: "please don't talk about this topic here anymore, I find it disgusting and it makes me very uncomfortable".

I'm very sorry for bothering people with this. I understand that I have to erase my past if I want to have any chance of belonging here. Even if that won't be fully me anymore, at least it'll be part of me.

People aren't supposed to be emotionally invincible and unmoved by whatever criticism is layed out. Justified or not.

I do find it hard to believe that you've not understood that yet, despite that you're an adult.

You're dutch. Despite that most people are weak fucks there are still plenty of assholes here in the netherlands that say such things like that have been said here in this topic to your face.
As Hans Teeuwen said, you develop a shield for that. Context being he's a cabaretier who made fun of muslim women and they wanted to speak to him and tell him its inappropiate yet he does the same thing in his cabaret with his own people... and we're all fine with it.

Find your own meteor. Don't rely on outside sources or what other people say. Grow your own confidence. Solve your issues. Let go of the pain.
Some pain runs very deep. Find what exactly that pain is.
So you can deal with it properly.

We are supposed to face our fears and negative bagage and overcome it. Not wallow in our misery, and let it swallow us whole. What was your reason for coming here? What did you want to gain out of being here?

 

[Head Guardian Sophiles Phylax]

Since I was 3 years old.

I can't really take this anymore. As much as I try to detach myself emotionally (as I consider getting hurt by words a sign of weakness), I'm not invincible. Not to mention, several people have been very clear: "please don't talk about this topic here anymore, I find it disgusting and it makes me very uncomfortable".

I'm very sorry for bothering people with this. I understand that I have to erase my past if I want to have any chance of belonging here. Even if that won't be fully me anymore, at least it'll be part of me.

Please don't be so hard on yourself. Yes, people are getting frustrated at this issue, but also you are not the only one going through this as well. Your progress and eventual resolution of this will serve the community as a valuable lesson well into the future, and you yourself will be able to help others who are in your shoes.

Unfortunately for everyone, your issue is one that requires a significant amount of patience and understanding, more than some are willing to give. However, you cannot be undeterred here: You must be willing to take the time and effort to implement a real and spiritual solution to your gender dysphoria.

You do not need to delete your account, or erase your past, or do any modifications to your identity or body! That is the whole point! Instead, you need to harmonize all aspects of your being such that you finally become comfortable with who you are. Please try to understand this.

The above is why it is even more unfortunate that the community is reacting harshly, but that is why it is even more important for you to stay clear-headed. You aren't invincible to emotional influence, just like all of us, but that doesn't mean you cannot take a deep breath and work on true solutions, rather than being compelled to a false bandaid.

 

[CrossRoadsPedestrian]

I'm going to try to play a little word association game with "make-up", and "mascara". which I think, will tell a very clear picture of what we are dealing with here.

Make-up -
to invent, imagine, concoct

When you put Make-up on your face, you are making up an imaginary image of yourself. Yes it LOOKS real, but underneath it is where the TRUE image lies.



Mascara -
Mask a RAY.... (phonetically it can be interpreted as mask-a-ray...i know its pronounced as mask a RAH, but this concept known as green language interprets words phonetically.....You could also do a different interpretation with MASK-A-RA(H), which could refer to the egyptian sun God RA or RAH (in its rising form), but for this im going to use MASK-A-RAY

Mask - To cover in order to conceal, protect, or disguise. To make indistinct or difficult to perceive.
a Ray - a line in which light (and heat) may seem to stream from the sun or any luminous body, or pass through a small opening.

So to put it together:
MASK-A-RAY - cover or diguise a line in which light (and heat) may seem to stream a luminous body
In other words, you are covering the light that streams from YOUR luminous body when you put mascara on. Mask a Ray...
Some say that the eyes and face are the window to the soul, well, in this case, when a person puts make-up or mascara on, they are covering the light that streams from THEIR luminous body --- their eyes, their face....make-up/mascara can make a woman look like a completely different person with a totally different personality as well and they give anyone observing them different vibrations than if they were to be observed without make-up/mascara on.

But then you could argue the same thing with clothing....a person can give off a totally different look and personality if they are wearing, say, a suit and tie, or if they were wearing a bathing suit.....so in that sense, make-up is similar to clothing. BUT, clothing has practical utility unlike makeup. Clothing protects you from the elements....

 

[Stormblood]

How did this turn from a topic about make-up into a topic about transgenderism and other self-delusions?

Because it was clearly derailed.

I actually enjoyed this post until now and went in to see what more I could learn from others.

Back in topic, I was wondering about Egyptian men using a small amount of make-up. Was that a fashion of the time?

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

How did this turn from a topic about make-up into a topic about transgenderism and other self-delusions?

Because it was clearly derailed.

I actually enjoyed this post until now and went in to see what more I could learn from others.

Back in topic, I was wondering about Egyptian men using a small amount of make-up. Was that a fashion of the time?

Apparently yes, and the same ways in England in the last three centuries. Even today, politicians that appear on panels etc, do use mild amounts of makeup.

 

[Kingfisher]

Isn't the word "cosmetics" derived from the Greek word for cosmos, or world? So proper cosmetics and beautification would be a way of expressing the natural patterns of the cosmos.

 

[Soul Wings]

Mask - To cover in order to conceal, protect, or disguise. To make indistinct or difficult to perceive.
a Ray - a line in which light (and heat) may seem to stream from the sun or any luminous body... , when a person puts make-up or mascara on, they are covering the light that streams from THEIR luminous body --- their eyes, their face....make-up/mascara can make a woman look like a completely different person with a totally different personality as well and they give anyone observing them different vibrations than if they were to be observed without make-up/mascara on.

I would actually interject and say that (literal) masks can also look lovely and enhance one's face even more - perhaps even add mystique to the mundane. There are also sexual connotations to masks - safety, and no judgement, in anonymity.
I am wondering if perhaps it is to do with vulnerability - feeling like there is nothing to hide when you are naked, perhaps, so too do we have the feeling that we are bearing all without makeup. To hide that we are tired, plagued by skin issues and/or sick, unhappy etc. Or perhaps to compensate the mundane with various types of artform (there are many styles of makeup).
It is strange you say that it "covers rays up like a mask" because many think it is used for enhancement, particularly of the eyes. A bit of sparkle can be used to attract attention, eyeliner or smoke for seduction and mystery, colours for vibrancy... and how strangely it is when typing this; how much it makes me think of magic.
Mascara is technically used practically put to enhance the lashes and make them look longer/more pronounced, without the use of false eyelashes (or can be used in conjuction with these to blend seamlessly). I believe this alludes to the "fluttering" of the eyelashes associated with obvious seduction and mystery. It can make one look more awake and draw more attention to the eyes. It is generally used as a finishing touch, so perhaps it is the last step of the "masking (changing?) of the rays". Many consider it the most vital step in a face of makeup, and even just mascara on the face can be considered a complete look.
I have been wondering if "as above, so below" may be applied here as well, in a way, even if it seems mundane. Perhaps, this might be why it seems so necessary after all (as this was a question in my mind). How can we express ourselves spiritually fully, if we are physically limited to "what we have" instead of "what we can create".

I think persians also did this as well. certain fashions throughout the ages that are now considered feminine were dominated by men then. Even the color pink was considered a masculine color at one point.

Yes, they did. I think guyliner can look quite nice, done right. It doesn't have to be overblown or anything. It would certainly make you look different at the very least. I guess it's associated with certain stuff people don't want to be involved in, so whatever.

Many men on TV these days actually, are wearing makeup to look healthier under the lights and because TV exposes every pore and flaw in your face, they feel it is necessary. Same with most musical artists these days.

 

[Serbon]

Spirituality was never my goal, only a means. That's why there are some things we will never be able to agree on. The future and reality remain the same regardless of such petty arguments.

Meteor, I dont want to argue with you and I wasnt the part of these arguments in the first place. Just wanted to ask, what is spirituality means to?

 

[Desdemona_666]

Is lack of vanity a bad thing?

Asking for a friend. :lol:

No, but I do think people should have -something- that makes them more of a person.

My first house is empty. :-/

 

[NinRick]

Is lack of vanity a bad thing?

Asking for a friend. :lol:

No, but I do think people should have -something- that makes them more of a person.

My first house is empty. :-/

And yet you are a very dedicated person, with lots of willpower, strive, goals and a mindset that keeps you close to Satan and the Gods, while this also reflects in your behaviour and actions, with the highest motivation, aspirations and goals a person could set for themselves.
Your first house may be empty, but your character, heart and soul are not.

Hail Satan!

 

[Desdemona_666]

No, but I do think people should have -something- that makes them more of a person.

My first house is empty. :-/

And yet you are a very dedicated person, with lots of willpower, strive, goals and a mindset that keeps you close to Satan and the Gods, while this also reflects in your behaviour and actions, with the highest motivation, aspirations and goals a person could set for themselves.
Your first house may be empty, but your character, heart and soul are not.

Hail Satan!

Thank you, Brother.

Hail Satan!!!

 

[Sundara]

No, but I do think people should have -something- that makes them more of a person.

My first house is empty. :-/

And yet you are a very dedicated person, with lots of willpower, strive, goals and a mindset that keeps you close to Satan and the Gods, while this also reflects in your behaviour and actions, with the highest motivation, aspirations and goals a person could set for themselves.
Your first house may be empty, but your character, heart and soul are not.

Hail Satan!

This has nothing to do with planets in your first house, I haven’t looked into it but with unaspected planets a person tends to have more control over that aspect of their life and an ability to make it what they want. This could possibly be said for having an empty house. Do not qoute me on that. But, by being more of a person I mean expressing who you are to the world. Showing it.

 

[NinRick]

My first house is empty. :-/

And yet you are a very dedicated person, with lots of willpower, strive, goals and a mindset that keeps you close to Satan and the Gods, while this also reflects in your behaviour and actions, with the highest motivation, aspirations and goals a person could set for themselves.
Your first house may be empty, but your character, heart and soul are not.

Hail Satan!

This has nothing to do with planets in your first house, I haven’t looked into it but with unaspected planets a person tends to have more control over that aspect of their life and an ability to make it what they want. This could possibly be said for having an empty house. Do not qoute me on that. But, by being more of a person I mean expressing who you are to the world. Showing it.

I just wanted to tell her some nice words and how I view her. This was not really astrology related, just emotionally.

 

[NinRick]

My first house is empty. :-/

And yet you are a very dedicated person, with lots of willpower, strive, goals and a mindset that keeps you close to Satan and the Gods, while this also reflects in your behaviour and actions, with the highest motivation, aspirations and goals a person could set for themselves.
Your first house may be empty, but your character, heart and soul are not.

Hail Satan!

Thank you, Brother.

Hail Satan!!!

 

[Sundara]

And yet you are a very dedicated person, with lots of willpower, strive, goals and a mindset that keeps you close to Satan and the Gods, while this also reflects in your behaviour and actions, with the highest motivation, aspirations and goals a person could set for themselves.
Your first house may be empty, but your character, heart and soul are not.

Hail Satan!

This has nothing to do with planets in your first house, I haven’t looked into it but with unaspected planets a person tends to have more control over that aspect of their life and an ability to make it what they want. This could possibly be said for having an empty house. Do not qoute me on that. But, by being more of a person I mean expressing who you are to the world. Showing it.

I just wanted to tell her some nice words and how I view her. This was not really astrology related, just emotionally.

Oh I was mainly replying to her, your words are fine. Astrology alone doesn’t define us, we also define our astrology. Same with DNA. It’s incredible how much of our DNA affects who we are, but we also effect it.

 

[NinRick]

This has nothing to do with planets in your first house, I haven’t looked into it but with unaspected planets a person tends to have more control over that aspect of their life and an ability to make it what they want. This could possibly be said for having an empty house. Do not qoute me on that. But, by being more of a person I mean expressing who you are to the world. Showing it.

I just wanted to tell her some nice words and how I view her. This was not really astrology related, just emotionally.

Oh I was mainly replying to her, your words are fine. Astrology alone doesn’t define us, we also define our astrology. Same with DNA. It’s incredible how much of our DNA affects who we are, but we also effect it.

Yes this is very true.
While usually the DNA of people doesn’t change throughout their lifetime (except with highly spiritual people), your epigenetics can chance, and by this, you express your genetics in a different way (healthier for example, where you stop showing signs of inherited sickness etc).
But I am sure the Serpent heals the DNA fully, and completely.