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ROH REVOLUTION

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Does the "SHOGUN METHOD" really works on girls?

Does anyone know any books or spells regarding how to make a girl your Girlfriend..

I like a girl and want her to make my girlfriend. In general,such that she will never leave me again.
 
You can try becoming a better person and developing your charisma and social skills so that you may actually be able to speak with her.
 
ROH REVOLUTION said:
Ignore any garbage pickup books. Read my replies on this thread for magick to get closer to another person. Venus retrograde is over now, so you can use direct love magick with no issues. https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=41244&p=166804
 
ROH REVOLUTION said:
Does the "SHOGUN METHOD" really works on girls?

Does anyone know any books or spells regarding how to make a girl your Girlfriend..

I like a girl and want her to make my girlfriend. In general,such that she will never leave me again.


Side steps out to the door way of this post. Slides slowly out door. Close door gently.
 
ROH REVOLUTION said:
Does the "SHOGUN METHOD" really works on girls?

Does anyone know any books or spells regarding how to make a girl your Girlfriend..

I like a girl and want her to make my girlfriend. In general,such that she will never leave me again.

Dude just be a likeable person. You're approaching relationships in a fucked up mindset. You clearly have an abandonment issue since you don't want this girl to leave you EVER. We live in modern society not some feudal warlord shit, I AM MAN THEREFORE I MUST OWN WOMAN. Women are free to choose their partner AND leave them if they choose too. Trying to force this girl to like you is not the most ethical if she isn't infatuated with you already.

Instead of doing love magic I would suggest you do a working for yourself or spend your time on developing traits she or other women find attractive. Binding someone to love you forever is like holding their soul hostage. Become a man that women want to be with because you know what attracts them. Not some guy who manipulated them in ways they're not aware of so they'll like you.

Don't act like women are some kind of alien species they're just as human as you. I wish you luck and hope you treat women as another person and not an object for you to hold at your side or for you to stick your dick in because you're lonely.
 
Emotionally abusing a woman is not going to make her stay with you. Interdependent relationships last... not codependent ones. The author is obviously exploiting lonely or insecure men for passive income.

No woman is going to be a "Build-a-Bitch" borg, you might as well invest in a sex doll or a flesh light if you really think these tactics are going to work.
 
But remember this program does work only FACE TO FACE interactions. Online dating is complicated. Isn't worth it.

And if you are really playing around with women for sex and do not want a committed relationship then do not buy it. But if you want a committed happy relationship with a woman then go ahead and buy it.

I'll be around here to help you. You can ask Derek questions on Shogun method website after purchasing.
 
Remember this Shogun method program is dangerous if you are simply gonna use it to get laid. Because the woman will suffer if you are not serious with her and if you leave her then she will be psychologically damaged forever and she won't be the same person.

So use it on your own risk! There have been Shogun method practitioners that have suffered being Stalked by Women.

This is a kind of warning that, Shogun method is not something to dabble with. It is for serious men wanting to have a happy forever love relationship. Most men who have discovered this program were once just like you and me "the nice guys." Who thought so high of non Zevism women of modern world of today. What a fool I was.

If you experience some morality or ethical issues after purchasing and studying the material within Shogun Method then always remember and then question yourself "you want to be happy or dumped by every other woman you love and care?"

Ethics, morality has no place in Shogun Method. Remember that.

Following ethics and morals in dating world of this animal kingdom of today, is like, a noble man of ancient times is buying a woman of today animal kingdom all the treats and flowers, all of that like in ancient Satanic golden age, but the woman of today want something else not your flowers and shit.

That's why I quote here the statement of Satan *Work how the World Works*
 
Aquarius said:
You can try becoming a better person and developing your charisma and social skills so that you may actually be able to speak with her.

Oh yea and buy her flowers, chocolates, blah blahz man up, be a man, don't get hurt if she rejected you, if she cheated you then she is not your type.

Wake up! This is not your ancient Satanic golden age.

Why always blame a man for a failed relationship? I tell you why. Because a man doesn't know how the mind of a woman works and thus he doesn't know what a woman wants.

That's why a man really SHOULD be blamed for failed relationship with women because he doesn't have an idea of female mind workings. Period! Big PERIOD.

This is fucking common sense !!

And that is what Shogun method provides this *secret* knowledge about the mind workings of a woman.

That's it. There's nothing wrong in obtaining knowledge in order to make yourself work better in that field you lack knowledge about!!!!!!

If I'm not wrong, you are a female yourself.

This is not your Satanic golden age. You are completely going against the natural flow of things of this modern world of today where women want something not your flowers and chocolates or your abs, money, dick, or charisma, these don't make a woman fall in love with a man but only attract temporarily.


If anyone says that it's not moral to exploit the mind of a female then I'd say, a man is not doing it solely for himself but for him and her and for a overall better relationship with her and be able to make her happy after knowing what exactly the woman wants in a relationship and that is where Shogun method comes in to help.


I don't know why you guys don't understand this common sense. Get in touch with reality.
 
ModernMage said:
ROH REVOLUTION said:
Does the "SHOGUN METHOD" really works on girls?

Does anyone know any books or spells regarding how to make a girl your Girlfriend..

I like a girl and want her to make my girlfriend. In general,such that she will never leave me again.

Dude just be a likeable person. You're approaching relationships in a fucked up mindset. You clearly have an abandonment issue since you don't want this girl to leave you EVER. We live in modern society not some feudal warlord shit, I AM MAN THEREFORE I MUST OWN WOMAN. Women are free to choose their partner AND leave them if they choose too. Trying to force this girl to like you is not the most ethical if she isn't infatuated with you already.

Instead of doing love magic I would suggest you do a working for yourself or spend your time on developing traits she or other women find attractive. Binding someone to love you forever is like holding their soul hostage. Become a man that women want to be with because you know what attracts them. Not some guy who manipulated them in ways they're not aware of so they'll like you.

Don't act like women are some kind of alien species they're just as human as you. I wish you luck and hope you treat women as another person and not an object for you to hold at your side or for you to stick your dick in because you're lonely.


Women aren't free to chose their partners. Love is also not a choice for them to make with someone specific.

Fact is, a woman doesn't know who to fall in love with. If an ugliest of the ugliest and fattest of the fattest man KNOWS how the mind of a woman works, one can be sure that she will fall in love with that useless man without even knowing why she actually love him or like him.

You like other men of this society are far from the Truth of this dating world of today.

Love has a different truest definition in the worlds of Gods , that definition doesn't apply to this current world of animals you call human society where everyone changes their mind every 2 hours.

Means which can be deemed immoral but doesn't hurt the operator can be used to get things done in this world. So long the operator knows the consequences of such.
 
I mean the immoral unthical means which doesn't hurt the operator and the receiver, but promotes a mutual healthy growth, is not immortal and unethical to me.
 
ModernMage said:
ModernMage said:
Lol you must be swimming in da pusci.

Your idea of controlling women is totally fucked and by no means satanic.
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Don't women control their Men? :mrgreen: They control their men more than men control their women. Read on...

Your first mistake is, you'r applying this Satanic principle of *free thought to those who are not of Satan and these people don't give two flying fucks about your Satanic values, morals and ethics. Why? Because they do not understand your Satanic Definition of Love and they also change their mind every other hour. You know that?

Whatever you said applies only to Satanic Women who to some extent know what it is to be in a true love relationship.


And btw, do you even know every other woman is AWARE of the mind flaws of men and is constantly exploiting these mind flaws of men, both consciously and unconsciously??

It's like here she comes and She is exploiting your mind flaws to get your attention and get you to respond to her, and then when you didn't know what she actually wanted from you, she leaves you But...but then you are like..oh well maybe I need to make myself better, or oh well maybe she wasn't my type.

But who knows maybe Satan has something planned better for me in future?" Wtf? Seriously?

Please don't ruin yourself in this kind of stupid thinking pattern where you use tons of excuses and cover your lack of knowledge in this case and blame YOURSELF for not being better for a woman who has just left you or cheated you.

Fact is, you didn't know what a woman wants in a relationship, TODAY. Thus, she left you. It's not her fault but your lack of knowledge.

It would be hard for a man like you to digest this truth and women over here that they do exploit these mind flaws of men too.

Also, never ask dating advice from a woman either. You will fuck yourself up in the end if you do ask her.

You do not have sufficient experience with women. If you had you would have known a widely known fact that every other woman in love desires to CONTROL HER MAN and his ACTIONS.

Most women even get pissed off and upset over if her man don't call her back, or don't reply her texts and if her man spends time with his friends or his female mates.

I hope you know that common fact. Now what is that? Isn't a man free to spend as much as time with his mates even when he gives enough time and attention to his woman?

Now what do you call this kind of controlling? Aren't men free? Why don't they apply free thought to their men? Because they are not SATANIC. They are without.

So don't apply your Satanic principles such as free thought and hope that everything is going to be good with that woman who is *without*.


Come back to me when you actually get into a real love relationship, I'd describe the things she does to you without even you telling me that all.

But if you have been in a relationship and you haven't experienced this kind of controlling by women, then she wasn't truly in love with YOU. Chances are she must have kept attention seekers around and other men too.

If a woman doesn't seek to control her man and his actions, you can be sure that she is not truly in love with him and isn't really serious about him either but she is putting herself first and herself on a pedestal over his man.
 
="Karnonnos"]
You are also defending women even when women are in majority for filing a divorce against their husbands over petty reasons. Husbands are in a minority for doing such. And such is the case in the West and even in the East now.

Majority of female actresses are divorcing their man after 15-20+ years of marriage. Did their men cheat? Most probably NOT.

This is something you will NEVER understand why they leave their husbands even after years of spending life together.


Women nowadays aren't afraid of leaving their husbands because they do easily get a second Life partner even after divorce and they do not have those traditional shackles they used to be restricted by few decades ago.


Now tell me. Why women are in the majority of filing a divorce against their husbands?

Women don't tell you the real reasons.

Ask any woman on this planet who is in love this question :. Why do you love or like your man?

Chances are every other woman will give you similar answer : "ahh he respects me, he is nice and decent to me, he actually knows how to love a woman, blah blah blah"

Their answer to this question will always be similar because they THEMSELVES do NOT know why in the hell they actually fell for this man they love in the first place.

A woman is a complete open book. Nothing too complex about what she wants.

And I mean whatever you said about This Method is true not BS , but the way you worded it in is what arises controversy against it.

This method has been very much controversial.

In this world of lies, Truth faces controversies. But lies don't.

Whenever something in this world of lies becomes controversial..you can be sure that something contains some "Truth".
 
sahasrarabliss said:


women are "bitches" cause on this society values are completely destroyed. Yes it sucks that 90% of women AND men! have been absorbed by this mentality.

Personally I have met only ONE girl that had values, self-respect and independence. The rest I have "dated" are just not worthy of a serious relationship if you're worried about cheating and stuff.

A girl gets mad at you, goes to a club has a few beers, cheats on you then blames alcohol and anger. This is scum behaviour but we all know men and women do it. The same way we ignore what leftards have to say, you should ignore whatever these women/men do (if cheating bothers you that much)

Or you could always do a spell and find someone that matches you, but that long ass wall of text explaining why women are natural cheaters is bs
 
InlovewithSatan666 said:
ModernMage said:
ModernMage said:
Lol you must be swimming in da pusci.

Your idea of controlling women is totally fucked and by no means satanic.

Don't women control their Men? :mrgreen: They control their men more than men control their women. Read on...

Your first mistake is, you'r applying this Satanic principle of *free thought to those who are not of Satan and these people don't give two flying fucks about your Satanic values, morals and ethics. Why? Because they do not understand your Satanic Definition of Love and they also change their mind every other hour. You know that?

Whatever you said applies only to Satanic Women who to some extent know what it is to be in a true love relationship.


And btw, do you even know every other woman is AWARE of the mind flaws of men and is constantly exploiting these mind flaws of men, both consciously and unconsciously??

It's like here she comes and She is exploiting your mind flaws to get your attention and get you to respond to her, and then when you didn't know what she actually wanted from you, she leaves you But...but then you are like..oh well maybe I need to make myself better, or oh well maybe she wasn't my type.

But who knows maybe Satan has something planned better for me in future?" Wtf? Seriously?

Please don't ruin yourself in this kind of stupid thinking pattern where you use tons of excuses and cover your lack of knowledge in this case and blame YOURSELF for not being better for a woman who has just left you or cheated you.

Fact is, you didn't know what a woman wants in a relationship, TODAY. Thus, she left you. It's not her fault but your lack of knowledge.

It would be hard for a man like you to digest this truth and women over here that they do exploit these mind flaws of men too.

Also, never ask dating advice from a woman either. You will fuck yourself up in the end if you do ask her.

You do not have sufficient experience with women. If you had you would have known a widely known fact that every other woman in love desires to CONTROL HER MAN and his ACTIONS.

Most women even get pissed off and upset over if her man don't call her back, or don't reply her texts and if her man spends time with his friends or his female mates.

I hope you know that common fact. Now what is that? Isn't a man free to spend as much as time with his mates even when he gives enough time and attention to his woman?

Now what do you call this kind of controlling? Aren't men free? Why don't they apply free thought to their men? Because they are not SATANIC. They are without.

So don't apply your Satanic principles such as free thought and hope that everything is going to be good with that woman who is *without*.


Come back to me when you actually get into a real love relationship, I'd describe the things she does to you without even you telling me that all.

But if you have been in a relationship and you haven't experienced this kind of controlling by women, then she wasn't truly in love with YOU. Chances are she must have kept attention seekers around and other men too.

If a woman doesn't seek to control her man and his actions, you can be sure that she is not truly in love with him and isn't really serious about him either but she is putting herself first and herself on a pedestal over his man.[/quote]

I cant believe your advocating using this kind of stuff. I as a guy am open enough to realize women are just as human as I am and just as unique as guys are. Why in the world would anyone bother with these types of techniques when secret is as a guy no matter what your doing or who you are there is some girl who shares your experiences.


The secret to this and it will work I gaurentee you.

I am so confident I could make a bet that if I wanted to I could have a woman in a month anytime I want not doing anything different than what I am doing and she would come to me in the physical and not the other way around.

My girl knows this secret too and in the past used it to attract people she didn't do anything different and had a lot of partners in the past.

I gaurentee she could do the same thing now if she wanted. But we are happy together so I dont worry too much about her doing this then leaving etc.

The secret is meditation and opening yourself up to the astral. You need to be open enough to sense things the more the better and faster this is. Many on here could do this.

Visualize in your mind what you want your perfect partner try to be as realistic as possible. Maybe say an affirmation to focus what you want on a few specific things.

In your mind as you do this will form the image of your partner it can be quite realistic. It will start to take on personality traits and be a certain way. The fantasy you had will become more specific and maybe some traits of your perfect partner will disappear or become different as you focus.

This is your woman you have connected to the energy of an actual person that exists now you will begin to feel their energy in you.

Will the person to you to contact you. Now is your time if you want this easier to try to visualize the area around your partner is it familiar where they hang out etc.

If so that is where you go to meet her. If not this will still work.

Now is your time to add in runes or a spell to attract them to you. You will probably have your perfect partner by your side in a week or two maybe more maybe less.

That's the secret.

Same with friends you can will people to you if you want. Just leave out the love and sex stuff and focus on something different you want there.


This shit actually works I did it a bunch of times as did others.
 
V12-POWER said:
sahasrarabliss said:


women are "bitches" cause on this society values are completely destroyed. Yes it sucks that 90% of women AND men! have been absorbed by this mentality.

Personally I have met only ONE girl that had values, self-respect and independence. The rest I have "dated" are just not worthy of a serious relationship if you're worried about cheating and stuff.

A girl gets mad at you, goes to a club has a few beers, cheats on you then blames alcohol and anger. This is scum behaviour but we all know men and women do it. The same way we ignore what leftards have to say, you should ignore whatever these women/men do (if cheating bothers you that much)

:D Atleast someone works how the World works and sees the reality objectively like you do.

Forward your this message to these Satanic men who are thinking so high of these Women.

Even a Satanic woman who is not astrally opened enough will tend to display traits these women have.

Satanic women will also not tend to leave their satanic partners... because? Ask me why??? Because...Satanists are in minority today.

Another thing is , a woman is attracted to "WHAT IS RARE" and is on constant lookup for novelty for her amusement.

Imagine a world full of Satanists... They have options then.

These men would puke if they were told the dark nature of women. They wouldn't even admit at all.

If I told these men one in a million ways of How a woman viciously EXPLOIT the Mind Flaws of Men to get her stuff done selfishly, they would become *Womanizers* then and defend women foolishly. Lmao. These men cannot just digest the UGLY Truth of Women of today.

They wouldn't even admit how a woman has a great tendency to even LIE ABOUT EVERY OTHER LITTLE THING. Yes, they do lie alot even about the pettiest things of the World.

Or you could always do a spell and find someone that matches you, but that long ass wall of text explaining why women are natural cheaters is bs

No. I didn't call all women or a woman natural cheater. But I called men the stupid men and these men should be blamed for failed relationship and also for being cheated on by their woman.

No women are not naturally bitches. They tend to act like one because their man didn't know what she wanted in a relationship with them to stay loyal to her man.

But it is true that a woman's loyatly to her man is opportunistic as she is incapable of sacrificing for her man. But it's different with a woman to her child relationship.

Tell you what? Even my own mother didn't spare her husband and she chose me over her husband and almost left him. See? Women's loyalty to her man is OPPORTUNISTIC, they are not capable of sacrificing for their Man.

If a man does not have power over her woman, and if she is not shit scared of leaving her man for other men, then she is not in LOVE with her man because?
A woman can fall in love with you today, but there's no guarantee that she will be in love with tomorrow too. And that's where men lack knowledge on how to keep their woman in love with them as long as they want to.
 
Karnonnos said:
InlovewithSatan666 said:

Okay. Serious question, if you throw Satanic principles in the bin for a bunch of kabbalistic shit garbage, why are you here?

NOTHING on the site or otherwise says non-Satanists have no free will. Nor does it say they are playthings where you can swerve Satanism altogether and just use enemy programming because 'the rules of Satan don't apply to these scum, so I can use the $2000 dollar techniques of ha-shit to make them my golems!''

InlovewithSatan666 said:
Even though I've tried this program but have never went along with it.

THEN YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE OF IT OR ITS CONSEQUENCES. Why are you shilling for something you have not done?

InlovewithSatan666 said:
It aches to see some men over here and there telling that there are women who are cheaters by habit.

Tell you what? The cheater woman wasn't born a cheater. She developed this habit because of countless failures with men and how she was abused and used by men.

Straight outta the mouth of Dr. Fraud. Try telling the Venus in Gemini woman to keep it in her pants or that she can't because of abuse or 'betas'. Anything more you want to add? Did a Satanic cult abduct that type of woman and put her in a basement and make her promiscuous too?

InlovewithSatan666 said:
That's it. That's all this program helps you become better and lead like a man. Far from that Alpha shit mentality. It doesn't even promote being a solely Alpha shit man or beta.

You are lying. The entire first book is about alpha/beta, chad/provider bullshit dichotomy with tons of claims about 'all women'. These techniques are not going to help you 'lead like a man' they are designed to make someone insecure from the get-go.

InlovewithSatan666 said:
This stuff isn't for those who are really serious about spirituality. As your mind will reject this material as soon as you look at it. It will also give you ethics hiccups, ethics issues mentally if you are really a sincere person from heart. But what do sincere nice guys get in the end?

But if you really want a human female lover, then you cannot go ahead with this alpha macho beta nice guy gentleman noble mentality with Human Women of the current world.

Human compared to what? A reptile? I never thought the enemy was that prevalent on these forums, I never believed the accusations about LovingSoul or others, but I am getting VERY VERY VERY strong vibes here.

>Ehmmm, don't do this if you're serious about Satanism goi, only do it if you're blasphemous enough to convene with ha-shit and willing to abandon your ethics, after all its only for people who speak nonsense on the forums and whose shit-imprinted soul is allergic to Rituals
>Buy this 2000 dollar program now, you won't regret it! Here's a paid review!
>Satanism isn't enough. MK DELTA is better!
>Make other people into your scat golems!
>30,000 word wall of text hawking some shit product like your life depends on it


I was going to reply to each of your questions, but it's not worth it.

You have a different way to look which is, you look at the world subjectively and I look at it objectively as it is.
 
Karnonnos said:


@karnonos..

But one of the consequences I surely know which you have already mentioned is " it is responsible for creating a deadly stalker" :mrgreen:

That is the least of your worry as you said. Which is true.

And is ofcourse not a pleasant thing.

But I love Women stalking me. At the beginning it is pleasurable but then soon it becomes a pain in the ass if you have a woman stalker stalking you even in the midnight.

Whatever you said above is true about it, but you might NOT know that, this is the least ugliest and immoral unethical method as compared to the *Manipulation of Men* done by Women. And not to forget the dirtiest and unethical type of mind games they play on Men to get their stuff done!

I hope you know that every other woman is wired naturally to manipulate and exploit the mind flaws of men. I can explain how they do this and what are those flaws but anyway.

My point is, if women do these manipulation to get men's attention, and respond to them even when the man didn't even want to but he was visually and audibly manipulated and exploited by the woman...THEN...

Why do you think it is wrong for a man to exploit the flaws of female mind and build a happy love relationship with her so she never go dissatisfied with him and if she does then that man has these tools to bring her back on track with him.

So what's so immoral in this?

If you look at this rationally, this is just FAIR-FAIR and WIN-WIN Situation where both man and the woman stays happy together FOREVER.

Cool?
 
Nice strawman, bro. Working on your personality doesn't mean buying flowers or doing other normie bullshit that doesn't work. There's a middle line between a clueless normie and a manipulative psychopath, just because you refuse to be the one doesn't mean you must be the other one. There's The Way of the Superior Man book that is all about that and goes deep into female psychology but without any manipulative bullshit. Here is a free pdf of it:

http://inherentexcellence.com/resources/thewayofthesuperiorman.pdf

sahasrarabliss said:
Oh yea and buy her flowers, chocolates, blah blahz man up, be a man, don't get hurt if she rejected you, if she cheated you then she is not your type.
 
You're lucky you didn't google it. It's much worse than the replies here. These are men who had bad experiences with women or have seen bad experiences other people have and think that the only way to go is manipulating them. Just like there are women who had abusive partners and use manipulative techniques to trap men into marriage, like The Rules book or any female dating best-seller in Amazon. All of them don't realize that the best is to walk the middle way, not being manipulative without being clueless either and understand what the other sex goes through before thinking they are all bad.

MaryZurick said:
Amazing. I came here after long time, scrolling down reading topics, I opened this one and was disgusted af!
 
Shrekelstein said:
You know that there are women who think this way too, right?
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I'm not talking about those women, and it's not probably those manipulation techniques they may advocate openly on the reddit. Some of them may include but not all of them in order to tame a man and when that happens, that woman leaves that man and continue venturing in search of "new puzzle".


You are against these manipulation methods but you should also understand that...

"the moment you approach a woman, her defense mechanisms automatically turn ON against you."

And you are at loss not knowing how to even put down her defense guard so a genuine natural normal conversation can take place.

You approaching a woman and revealing even the Slightest signs of interest in her will be looked upon by her as a CREEP and very creepy guy or even if you reveal this sign of interest in her after several meetings or dates or at work to some coworker.

It will make her feel uncomfortable when her intuition finds out in the first few seconds of your conversation with her that you'r "interested in her"

Then you are no different than all other men in her mind and eyes.

Understand that harsh truth.


And married men are more prone to be cheated on. They are at larger risk of being cheated.
 
No such thing happens. There have been done many social experiments where a male model approaches a woman and says the most creepy things and the woman falls in love with him. Whether a woman responds positively or negatively depends on your confidence, appearance and the personality you project. If you feel awkward inside while showing interest in her of course will make her respond negatively.

There are even pickup artists that teach about being a natural instead of any manipulative techniques and show that approaching a woman while being confident and honest can bring positive reactions. You can find many videos of these online.

It's not a "self-defense mechanism", it's the reading of your aura and overall confidence that makes her respond positively or negatively. Women are more intuitive and read these things better.



InlovewithSatan666 said:
Shrekelstein said:
"the moment you approach a woman, her defense mechanisms automatically turn ON against you."

And you are at loss not knowing how to even put down her defense guard so a genuine natural normal conversation can take place.

You approaching a woman and revealing even the Slightest signs of interest in her will be looked upon by her as a CREEP and very creepy guy or even if you reveal this sign of interest in her after several meetings or dates or at work to some coworker.

It will make her feel uncomfortable when her intuition finds out in the first few seconds of your conversation with her that you'r "interested in her"

Then you are no different than all other men in her mind and eyes.

Understand that harsh truth.


And married men are more prone to be cheated on. They are at larger risk of being cheated.
 

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