Shamans... what?

[saripoulonzi]

I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6490 ... Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it connected to christianity?

 

[Don Danko]

Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was trained by another wiccaxian.   The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's communistic slave morality. The jew knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000 year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.

From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

  I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6490 ... Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it connected to christianity?

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]yeah Don,Also they say it's about honoring the old gods,when the original horned god was Satan/Enki all along.
H F S
Brian

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 8:15 PM

  Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was trained by another wiccaxian.   The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's communistic slave morality. The jew knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000 year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.

From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

  I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6490 ... Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it connected to christianity?

[/TD]

 

[Angelo Giancana]

This is something I've noticed people seem to leave out or completely miss.  Alot of our symbols of today can be seen in the far East.  Example.... you have the Horned God/Devil/Demon.  Back in China you have the Horned Dragon<<< which the dragon is a very sacred symbol all around and especially to Satan... and the horned dragon is most sacred to the Far Eastern Asians.  Then... in Asia the dragons are depicted generally as "good." 

But then if you follow along the lines to the West (migration of religion in time), you will notice the stories of the "Western Style Dragons" are more winged and depicted as evil.  When speaking of dragon myths, some people will try to draw a distinction between Western and Eastern dragons.... in stories... yes there is a difference.  But the Asians also have a winged dragon as well, so its easy to see where they tried to bury the sacredness of the dragon and make it seem like they were seperate beings, when it was the same race of beings all along. 


If one was to further theorize like I said in a past email.  The East and West are divided, just like our brains are divided into left and right.  Then you have the split of Matriarchal and Patriarchal power, with signs of gender trait expressions showing up culturally in the far east and west.  If you looked further into it by relating it to kundalini.. you have the 2 main Ida and Pingala split between the Sushumna of the spine. 


It is plain to see, that one must unite the East and West dragons, Female/Male in order to become balanced enough to rise as a Kundalini Power in the Sushumna.  Just some thoughts  ^_^  It seems society is bombarded by so many hidden subconscious messages to keep man divided and weak in his own power.



From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 1:12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

 

<td style="font:[/IMG]yeah Don,Also they say it's about honoring the old gods,when the original horned god was Satan/Enki all along.
H F S
Brian

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 8:15 PM

  Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was trained by another wiccaxian.   The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's communistic slave morality. The jew knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000 year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.

From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

  I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6490 ... Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it connected to christianity?

[/TD]

 

[dumatereli]

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

yeah Don,Also they say it's about honoring the old gods,when the original horned god was Satan/Enki all along.
H F S
Brian

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 8:15 PM







 









Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was trained by another wiccaxian.
 
The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's communistic slave morality. The jew knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000 year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.





From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

 

I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6490 ... Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it connected to christianity?

May I just point out to add that wiccans though they think they are doing good as a whole for Paganism are actually hurting it more then xianity.

 

[Gender Tender]

dont forget the proto shiva that have 3 horns!n dont fuck up n shoo me,the three horns is alchemical,one point the trisul,the original cross,which predate xtianity,they stole it along with the creator god principal  which not only existed in hinduism but in ancient china n egypt(atum).three is very powerful n the reason why enemy use it a lot,the thor rune is number three.
  originally dragons symbolises royalty n honor,the opposite of the pop culture dragon,theres are mean n ferocious dragons such as  dragons in no cha,but they arent considered evil as yao's or ng's,they are depicted as prideful n only wreak havoc if messed with.a snake wont strike if it feel safe.it simple animal nature.remember the dragon god think ne zha stole his pearl,thats y he cause the flood,not because he's a dragon n that what dragons do.   white snake caused the major flood but it due to love issues n the monk being such a rigid prude!n she ended up being the snake goddess n how she could be a goddes if she a yao?   yao is chinesse for evil fairys or beings,ng is ghost  hail ea
hail baal
hail astaroth
hail zazel
haiil all the people of satan

From: Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 5:25:17 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

 
This is something I've noticed people seem to leave out or completely miss.  Alot of our symbols of today can be seen in the far East.  Example.... you have the Horned God/Devil/Demon.  Back in China you have the Horned Dragon<<< which the dragon is a very sacred symbol all around and especially to Satan... and the horned dragon is most sacred to the Far Eastern Asians.  Then... in Asia the dragons are depicted generally as "good." 

But then if you follow along the lines to the West (migration of religion in time), you will notice the stories of the "Western Style Dragons" are more winged and depicted as evil.  When speaking of dragon myths, some people will try to draw a distinction between Western and Eastern dragons.... in stories... yes there is a difference.  But the Asians also have a winged dragon as well, so its easy to see where they tried to bury the sacredness of the dragon and make it seem like they were seperate beings, when it was the same race of beings all along. 


If one was to further theorize like I said in a past email.  The East and West are divided, just like our brains are divided into left and right.  Then you have the split of Matriarchal and Patriarchal power, with signs of gender trait expressions showing up culturally in the far east and west.  If you looked further into it by relating it to kundalini.. you have the 2 main Ida and Pingala split between the Sushumna of the spine. 


It is plain to see, that one must unite the East and West dragons, Female/Male in order to become balanced enough to rise as a Kundalini Power in the Sushumna.  Just some thoughts  ^_^  It seems society is bombarded by so many hidden subconscious messages to keep man divided and weak in his own power.



From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 1:12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

 

<td vAl[/IMG]yeah Don,Also they say it's about honoring the old gods,when the original horned god was Satan/Enki all along.
H F S
Brian

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 8:15 PM

  Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was trained by another wiccaxian.   The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's communistic slave morality. The jew knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000 year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.

From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

  I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6490 ... Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it connected to christianity?

[/TD]

 

[Angelo Giancana]

Attachments :
I found out they have another branch of Wicca. Dark Wicca. Not sure what it is, but the thought of a bunch of people dressed as dark fairy's skipping around a tree is annoying.

dumatereli <dumatereli@... wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

yeah Don,Also they say it's about honoring the old gods,when the original horned god was Satan/Enki all along.
H F S
Brian

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 8:15 PM







 









Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was trained by another wiccaxian.
 
The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's communistic slave morality. The jew knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000 year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.





From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

 

I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6490 ... Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it connected to christianity?

May I just point out to add that wiccans though they think they are doing good as a whole for Paganism are actually hurting it more then xianity.

 

[Don Danko]

Can't be any worse then Caveman Communism 20,000 years ago with Cave Commissar Took-bergwitz.

From: Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 11:15:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  I found out they have another branch of Wicca. Dark Wicca. Not sure what it is, but the thought of a bunch of people dressed as dark fairy's skipping around a tree is annoying.

dumatereli <dumatereli@... wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

yeah Don,Also they say it's about honoring the old gods,when the original horned god was Satan/Enki all along.
H F S
Brian

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 8:15 PM







 









Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was trained by another wiccaxian.
 
The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's communistic slave morality. The jew

knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000 year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.

From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

 

I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/649079.The_Temple_of_Shamanic_Witchcraft

target=_blankhttp://www.goodreads.com/book/show/649079.The_Temple_of_Shamanic_Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it connected to christianity?

May I just point out to add that wiccans though they think they are doing good as a whole for Paganism are actually hurting it more then xianity.

 

[Gender Tender]

LOL!LOL!LOL! [/IMG]
 hail ea
hail baal
hail astaroth
hail zazel
haiil all the people of satan

From: Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 12:15:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  I found out they have another branch of Wicca. Dark Wicca. Not sure what it is, but the thought of a bunch of people dressed as dark fairy's skipping around a tree is annoying.

dumatereli <dumatereli@... wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

yeah Don,Also they say it's about honoring the old gods,when the original horned god was Satan/Enki all along.
H F S
Brian

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 8:15 PM







 









Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was trained by another wiccaxian.
 
The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's communistic slave morality. The jew

knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000 year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.

From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

 

I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6490 ... Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it connected to

christianity?

May I just point out to add that wiccans though they think they are doing good as a whole for Paganism are actually hurting it more then xianity.

 

[anandha shankar]

@saripoulonzi : i like to tel that there is no link between wicca and shamanism shamanism is different . the native shamanism have no trace of wicca
From: Gender Tender <g_tender@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 7:55:30 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  LOL!LOL!LOL! [/IMG]
 hail ea
hail baal
hail astaroth
hail zazel
haiil all the people of satan

From: Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 12:15:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  I found out they have another branch of Wicca. Dark Wicca. Not sure what it is, but the thought of a bunch of people dressed as dark fairy's skipping around a tree is annoying.

dumatereli <dumatereli@... wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

yeah Don,Also they say it's about honoring the old gods,when the original horned god was Satan/Enki all along.
H F S
Brian

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans...

what?

To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 8:15 PM







 









Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was trained by another wiccaxian.
 
The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's communistic slave morality. The

jew knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000 year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.

From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

 

I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
<a rel="nofollow" >

href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/649079.The_Temple_of_Shamanic_Witchcraft"http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/649079.The_Temple_of_Shamanic_Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it connected to

christianity?

May I just point out to add that wiccans though they think they are doing good as a whole for Paganism are actually hurting it more then xianity.

 

[Angelo Giancana]

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I'll sorta acknowledge the skipping around the tree part, as long as I can forget Wicca is associated with it, and that they are only beautiful naked women.

Unfortunately certain guys called "Wiccan Faeries" would participate in that activity. That's the part that sickens me. Blegh. Lol

Gender Tender <g_tender@... wrote:

LOL!LOL!LOL! I LOST MY SPLEEN COZ IM LAUGHTING SO HARD HAHAHA THE VERY IDEA OF
DARK WICCA!
 hail ea
hail baal
hail astaroth
hail zazel
haiil all the people of satan




________________________________
From: Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 12:15:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

 
I found out they have another branch of Wicca. Dark Wicca. Not sure what it is,
but the thought of a bunch of people dressed as dark fairy's skipping around a
tree is annoying.

dumatereli <dumatereli@... wrote:



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

yeah Don,Also they say it's about honoring the old gods,when the original
horned god was Satan/Enki all along.

H F S
Brian

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 8:15 PM







 









Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have
seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was
trained by another wiccaxian.

 
The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover
up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and
it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's
communistic slave morality. The jew knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000
year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing
stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now
claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.






From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

 

I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6490 ... Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it connected
to christianity?


May I just point out to add that wiccans though they think they are doing good
as a whole for Paganism are actually hurting it more then xianity.

 

[Gender Tender]

i know that,my granny is a shaman,n she never even heard of wicca,or can read for that matter 8p
 hail ea
hail baal
hail astaroth
hail zazel
haiil all the people of satan

From: anandha shankar <ashankar88@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 1:31:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  @saripoulonzi : i like to tel that there is no link between wicca and shamanism shamanism is different . the native shamanism have no trace of wicca
From: Gender Tender <g_tender@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 7:55:30 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  LOL!LOL!LOL! [/IMG]
 hail ea
hail baal
hail astaroth
hail zazel
haiil all the people of satan

From: Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 12:15:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  I found out they have another branch of Wicca. Dark Wicca. Not sure what it is, but the thought of a bunch of people dressed as dark fairy's skipping around a tree is annoying.

dumatereli <dumatereli@... wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

yeah Don,Also they say it's about honoring the old gods,when the original horned god was Satan/Enki all along.
H F S
Brian

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 8:15 PM







 









Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was trained by another wiccaxian.
 
The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's communistic slave morality. The jew

knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000 year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.

From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

 

I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6490 ... Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it

connected to christianity?

May I just point out to add that wiccans though they think they are doing good as a whole for Paganism are actually hurting it more then xianity.

 

[anandha shankar]

thank father . and native shamanism is also one of the un-corrupted path


From: Gender Tender <g_tender@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 7:42:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  i know that,my granny is a shaman,n she never even heard of wicca,or can read for that matter 8p
 hail ea
hail baal
hail astaroth
hail zazel
haiil all the people of satan

From: anandha shankar <ashankar88@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 1:31:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  @saripoulonzi : i like to tel that there is no link between wicca and shamanism shamanism is different . the native shamanism have no trace of wicca
From: Gender Tender <g_tender@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 7:55:30 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  LOL!LOL!LOL! [/IMG]
 hail ea
hail baal
hail astaroth
hail zazel
haiil all the people of satan

From: Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 12:15:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  I found out they have another branch of Wicca. Dark Wicca. Not sure what it is, but the thought of a bunch of people dressed as dark fairy's skipping around a tree is annoying.

dumatereli <dumatereli@... wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

yeah Don,Also they say it's about honoring the old gods,when the original horned god was Satan/Enki all along.
H F S
Brian

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans...

what?

To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 8:15 PM







 









Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was trained by another wiccaxian.
 
The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's communistic slave morality. The

jew knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000 year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.

From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

 

I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
<a rel="nofollow" >

href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/649079.The_Temple_of_Shamanic_Witchcraft"http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/649079.The_Temple_of_Shamanic_Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it

connected to christianity?

May I just point out to add that wiccans though they think they are doing good as a whole for Paganism are actually hurting it more then xianity.

 

[Angelo Giancana]

Shamanism is a spirituality that is very personal.  There is no religion in it, except what the person brings into it.  You have many types.  You have native americans as medicine men, skinwalkers and Seers.  You have voudon practitioners, you have asias own chinese sorcerors.  There is no one way to shamanism as it is only colored by the culture it comes from.  It is usually associated with the old ways and the land.



From: Gender Tender <g_tender@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 6:12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  i know that,my granny is a shaman,n she never even heard of wicca,or can read for that matter 8p
 hail ea
hail baal
hail astaroth
hail zazel
haiil all the people of satan

From: anandha shankar <ashankar88@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 1:31:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  @saripoulonzi : i like to tel that there is no link between wicca and shamanism shamanism is different . the native shamanism have no trace of wicca
From: Gender Tender <g_tender@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 7:55:30 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  LOL!LOL!LOL! [/IMG]
 hail ea
hail baal
hail astaroth
hail zazel
haiil all the people of satan

From: Angelo Giancana <angelo.giancana@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 12:15:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Shamans... what?

  I found out they have another branch of Wicca. Dark Wicca. Not sure what it is, but the thought of a bunch of people dressed as dark fairy's skipping around a tree is annoying.

dumatereli <dumatereli@... wrote:

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

yeah Don,Also they say it's about honoring the old gods,when the original horned god was Satan/Enki all along.
H F S
Brian

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Shamans...

what?

To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 8:15 PM







 









Penzak is hugging a cross and running in terror from the Oak. From what I have seen of him in interviews on his subject matters he is a typical wiccan who was trained by another wiccaxian.
 
The thing at annoys me is wicca pushes the jewish lie of the stone age to cover up the truth there was a golden age civilization of the Gods on this planet and it also reduces the Gods to mental spooks or archetypes with infusing it's communistic slave morality. The

jew knowing it can not keep all in it's 6000 year old earth lie as away to cover up the truth of humanity is now pushing stone aged supersition communism, there is a author who is now claiming neanderthals where perfect loving commies.

From: saripoulonzi <lolobardonik@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 11:46:01 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Shamans... what?

 

I was reading "The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft" by Christopher Penzak
<a rel="nofollow" >

href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/649079.The_Temple_of_Shamanic_Witchcraft"http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/649079.The_Temple_of_Shamanic_Witchcraft

and i was curious... is this compatible with our beliefs... or is it

connected to christianity?

May I just point out to add that wiccans though they think they are doing good as a whole for Paganism are actually hurting it more then xianity.

 

[Chris Windham]

<td val[/IMG]hi what path is you grandmother my greatgrandparents were both native american full blooded choctaw and they kept some of there ways my grandmother is half and so is my mom my greatgrandmother died  few weeks ago  she told me a lot of stories about her  religion
[/TD]

 

[Gender Tender]

shes used to followed her ancestor religion,an siammesse magick + animisme something,dunno what to call it,my grandmother married my grandpa n mix her faith with islam(-_-) ur so lucky ur grandparents stil follow the older ways....

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Chris Windham <yezidialjilwah@... wrote:

hi what path is you grandmother my greatgrandparents were both native
american full blooded choctaw and they kept some of there ways my
grandmother is half and so is my mom my greatgrandmother died  few
weeks ago  she told me a lot of stories about her  religion