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Baron Hope Von Blossom

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Hello, My Satanic Siblings.

Is it possible to sever family ties? If possible can I ask for a spell for this?

thank you in advance.

Bye.
 
Hello, My Satanic Siblings.

Is it possible to sever family ties? If possible can I ask for a spell for this?

thank you in advance.

Bye.
Of course, although consider that you only have certain family members in these roles and they cannot be easily replaced. For example, your mom is a source of maternal "energy" and if you permanently cut her out, then it could be difficult to find someone who can replace this need. It is possible for people to have family karma that creates or desires distance, and in some sense this can make them feel like it is ok to leave their family, but this has to be judged carefully to make sure it is not fuel for a rash decision that could ultimately leave you unfulfilled.

For example, if you have a Moon/Uranus aspect, this can create a desire to alter or detach. The person could want to do this and also feel like they could find maternal fulfillment through their friend groups. Yet, if the "new source" of this nurturing was not as strong as what the actual family provided, this could cause stress as needs go unmet. You have to make a judgement call that your detachment from one situation would lead to a better result overall.

Positive affirmations can help this, of course, but then that leads to a better question: Why not just detach negative behaviors or other karma from existing family members, rather than detach them completely? As an example, maybe your dad yells at you and this causes a desire to leave. However, instead of detaching totally, you detach just this negative influence from your life. This can lead to a situation where the relationship is repaired, rather than destroyed.
 
Sorry I don't quite understand your question.

What do you want to do ? Improve your family ties or you wish to get away of them?
 
Weigh the situation carefully before you sever ties, sometimes it is better to limit the influence of family unless one is in a position where some are so overly toxic and detrimental to you that it is best you remove them from your life.

Each individual their family, and circumstances are different, so sometimes it can be hard to tell where you are at in this range of needing to remove them or limit them.

Consult the Gods as well on the best course of action here if the situation isn't far over the edge into serious wrongs, as these cases are very numerous as well and you'd likely know this needs done then.

Feel free to also elaborate further and we can do our best to assist and guide you to the best possible option.
 
Nobody can tell you what to do in this matter Mr Hope, this is personal and who would advise either to stay or leave your family doesn't even know your full story, circumstances and overall You. But what I'm saying is that indeed with family can be though, sometimes like a Hate Love thing, good thing and beautiful things happend and then bad horrified things happend and then you're going onto this confusion stage where you literally don't know if your shall leave or remain with them no more, some times you can also feel this confusion of your own identity and the things around might have made you very less hopeful about life and beauty but you have to focus on yourself first before everyone else, no matter about who are talking about, take care of yourself and tell yourself that everything is well and strive forward for progress, always, regardless.

As per overall in what comes to reasoning and meaningful of why would like to do a spiritual working as the one you've just asked, I belive HP Lydia meditation would rather be beneficial in your case, I think the wound withing yourself is speaking, not many truly wish to leave family behind, unless family caused deep wounds, but I belive if you're cleaning the wounds and healing them then you might not want to leave them anymore and you will look into the past which is the right now present and tell yo yourself "wow.. I was about to leave the ones that I love " although we can't be truly fully loved and accepted in our families due to the fact that let's just say everyone is different but still tho by the end of the day family is family.

I hope things will improve in your life.
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Of course, although consider that you only have certain family members in these roles and they cannot be easily replaced. For example, your mom is a source of maternal "energy" and if you permanently cut her out, then it could be difficult to find someone who can replace this need. It is possible for people to have family karma that creates or desires distance, and in some sense this can make them feel like it is ok to leave their family, but this has to be judged carefully to make sure it is not fuel for a rash decision that could ultimately leave you unfulfilled.

For example, if you have a Moon/Uranus aspect, this can create a desire to alter or detach. The person could want to do this and also feel like they could find maternal fulfillment through their friend groups. Yet, if the "new source" of this nurturing was not as strong as what the actual family provided, this could cause stress as needs go unmet. You have to make a judgement call that your detachment from one situation would lead to a better result overall.

Positive affirmations can help this, of course, but then that leads to a better question: Why not just detach negative behaviors or other karma from existing family members, rather than detach them completely? As an example, maybe your dad yells at you and this causes a desire to leave. However, instead of detaching totally, you detach just this negative influence from your life. This can lead to a situation where the relationship is repaired, rather than destroyed.
I don't understand. So do I just need to separate their negative effects from myself?
 
I don't understand. So do I just need to separate their negative effects from myself?

Yes. A general freeing working can be used, such as with Ansuz or Munka, then affirm and visualize the negativity of the relationship dissolving, leaving only positive interactions. Maybe this is seen as lines of energetic interactions between you and them, where the negative lines are being destroying.

Alternatively, you can use energies like Berkano and Gebo to increase familial love and peace between you and them.
 
Alternatively, you can use energies like Berkano and Gebo to increase familial love and peace between you and them.
The rune Wunjo works in this context, as well.
 
I have read all the previous posts and I think all suggestions are valuable and important.
Family ties may go deep into your mind, depending on how you have been educated and how you have suffered for negative behaviors, until - in case - you suffered some traumas in early life.
What I am trying to say is, there may be in your mind the unconscious will to stay attached to your family, even if you consciously cut them off. This can happen in negative relationship where the victim is drawn to feel guilty and perpetually tries to "come back" to the offender family memeber tryin to "fix" or "repair" the wrongs that the victim thinks has done to the offender. It often happens the victim feel so guilty, that takes the blame of the offender.
So - sometimes it is important to make peace with yourself, overcome guilt (if any), and teach your mind that negativity you may have received is not your fault, but the offenders' fault. This is very important and not doing this may prevent some of your magickal efforts to correctly manifest.
I think self-teaching, reading books, and the Munka mantra meditation are all useful to reprogram any unconscious push to get back to unwanted family members
 
Of course, although consider that you only have certain family members in these roles and they cannot be easily replaced. For example, your mom is a source of maternal "energy" and if you permanently cut her out, then it could be difficult to find someone who can replace this need. It is possible for people to have family karma that creates or desires distance, and in some sense this can make them feel like it is ok to leave their family, but this has to be judged carefully to make sure it is not fuel for a rash decision that could ultimately leave you unfulfilled.

For example, if you have a Moon/Uranus aspect, this can create a desire to alter or detach. The person could want to do this and also feel like they could find maternal fulfillment through their friend groups. Yet, if the "new source" of this nurturing was not as strong as what the actual family provided, this could cause stress as needs go unmet. You have to make a judgement call that your detachment from one situation would lead to a better result overall.

Positive affirmations can help this, of course, but then that leads to a better question: Why not just detach negative behaviors or other karma from existing family members, rather than detach them completely? As an example, maybe your dad yells at you and this causes a desire to leave. However, instead of detaching totally, you detach just this negative influence from your life. This can lead to a situation where the relationship is repaired, rather than destroyed.
What about if the family caused a great deal of trauma and never loved me?
 
Of course, although consider that you only have certain family members in these roles and they cannot be easily replaced. For example, your mom is a source of maternal "energy" and if you permanently cut her out, then it could be difficult to find someone who can replace this need. It is possible for people to have family karma that creates or desires distance, and in some sense this can make them feel like it is ok to leave their family, but this has to be judged carefully to make sure it is not fuel for a rash decision that could ultimately leave you unfulfilled.

For example, if you have a Moon/Uranus aspect, this can create a desire to alter or detach. The person could want to do this and also feel like they could find maternal fulfillment through their friend groups. Yet, if the "new source" of this nurturing was not as strong as what the actual family provided, this could cause stress as needs go unmet. You have to make a judgement call that your detachment from one situation would lead to a better result overall.

Positive affirmations can help this, of course, but then that leads to a better question: Why not just detach negative behaviors or other karma from existing family members, rather than detach them completely? As an example, maybe your dad yells at you and this causes a desire to leave. However, instead of detaching totally, you detach just this negative influence from your life. This can lead to a situation where the relationship is repaired, rather than destroyed.
Would detaching the behaviors work on someone who likely has a personality disorder and is super xian?
 
What about if the family caused a great deal of trauma and never loved me?
In all cases we have to make a judgement call in how to use our energies. We cannot as easily change others as we can ourselves, nor are we obligated to put up with abuse.

Based on what you say, it sounds like the best option would be to detach yourself. However, what "detachment" means does not have to be the same for everyone, nor does it have to follow the same manifestation or procedure of occurring.

There is an element of this where we should not force the energy if we don't have to. If someone's preconceived notion of detachment is obliterating any ties, this is different from if the energy is programmed to remove just the negativity. Maybe this would manifest as the abuser leaving the person alone in their room, as opposed to being attached from the roof over their head, too. Also, by focusing first on the removing negative attachments, this would more quickly protect someone who was in danger.

Obviously I cannot fully predict what we will happen, as these situations are subjective. I am mainly writing about achieving a better outcome with our workings, as well as being mindful about our outcomes. This applies more to cases that are more nuanced, but for those that are more severe, this would point towards a full detachment anyway, which could likely be the result if the energy is programmed for the best outcome for you.

If the energetically easiest result of removing the negativity from you involved a change on their behalf, then that is what would happen. Alternatively, if the best option was to get you away somehow, then that would likely happen.

Would detaching the behaviors work on someone who likely has a personality disorder and is super xian?

Sure, it would work, but you have to consider how much energy it may take. As I mentioned above, it is usually harder to change others more than ourselves. How likely the individual will change is based on them. If they were open to change somehow, then this could more easily occur. Maybe they become convinced about the pacifistic beliefs from Christianity and this leads them to quit harassing you. This would not totally free them from the self-destructive spiral of Christianity itself, but at least they would leave you alone. That could be one example of a surgical detachment of a negative behavior.
 
Of course, although consider that you only have certain family members in these roles and they cannot be easily replaced. For example, your mom is a source of maternal "energy" and if you permanently cut her out, then it could be difficult to find someone who can replace this need. It is possible for people to have family karma that creates or desires distance, and in some sense this can make them feel like it is ok to leave their family, but this has to be judged carefully to make sure it is not fuel for a rash decision that could ultimately leave you unfulfilled.

For example, if you have a Moon/Uranus aspect, this can create a desire to alter or detach. The person could want to do this and also feel like they could find maternal fulfillment through their friend groups. Yet, if the "new source" of this nurturing was not as strong as what the actual family provided, this could cause stress as needs go unmet. You have to make a judgement call that your detachment from one situation would lead to a better result overall.

Positive affirmations can help this, of course, but then that leads to a better question: Why not just detach negative behaviors or other karma from existing family members, rather than detach them completely? As an example, maybe your dad yells at you and this causes a desire to leave. However, instead of detaching totally, you detach just this negative influence from your life. This can lead to a situation where the relationship is repaired, rather than destroyed.
Would detaching the behaviors work on someone who likely has a personality disorder and is super xian?
In all cases we have to make a judgement call in how to use our energies. We cannot as easily change others as we can ourselves, nor are we obligated to put up with abuse.

Based on what you say, it sounds like the best option would be to detach yourself. However, what "detachment" means does not have to be the same for everyone, nor does it have to follow the same manifestation or procedure of occurring.

There is an element of this where we should not force the energy if we don't have to. If someone's preconceived notion of detachment is obliterating any ties, this is different from if the energy is programmed to remove just the negativity. Maybe this would manifest as the abuser leaving the person alone in their room, as opposed to being attached from the roof over their head, too. Also, by focusing first on the removing negative attachments, this would more quickly protect someone who was in danger.

Obviously I cannot fully predict what we will happen, as these situations are subjective. I am mainly writing about achieving a better outcome with our workings, as well as being mindful about our outcomes. This applies more to cases that are more nuanced, but for those that are more severe, this would point towards a full detachment anyway, which could likely be the result if the energy is programmed for the best outcome for you.

If the energetically easiest result of removing the negativity from you involved a change on their behalf, then that is what would happen. Alternatively, if the best option was to get you away somehow, then that would likely happen.



Sure, it would work, but you have to consider how much energy it may take. As I mentioned above, it is usually harder to change others more than ourselves. How likely the individual will change is based on them. If they were open to change somehow, then this could more easily occur. Maybe they become convinced about the pacifistic beliefs from Christianity and this leads them to quit harassing you. This would not totally free them from the self-destructive spiral of Christianity itself, but at least they would leave you alone. That could be one example of a surgical detachment of a negative behavior.
This is interesting. Not something I would have considered before. She is definitely not the pacifist type as evidenced by behavior towards other family members but I can see how that might work in some cases. I wish more xians would take that approach and leave everyone else alone. Thank you for your answer, you always have great insight and I appreciate it.
Hail Satan
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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