Re: worried (opinions asked)

[fake name]

Sounds like she's talking to an angel. This definitely doesnt sound good to me.



On Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:42 AM, "taolvanswd@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  There's something that has been on my mind for quite a while and now I decided that I might need some other advice or light or view on it. 

It concerns one of my best friends. We tend to talk about pagan stuff quite a bit at times and she told me that she knows someone on the other world whom had been there for her all her life and even saved her when she was about to hang herself in an attempted suicide.

But what worries me is this. Always, she talked to him and could ask him questions but now when she asks stuff about 'how can I get rid of this' he never answers or gives vague replies. Just about never concrete solid things.

Thats the reason I don't trust it in the first place. Not giving straight up answers or vague answers that obviously won't help. 


Now the thing is about this one of my best friends I know for sure I've known her for a long long time even though not as of now in this lifetime. I just really started to doubt myself on whats real and whats not. Considering her. Considering this.
And basicly its just a complete mess with both of my friends all aquintances etc ... 

I just would like to know, what can I do? Because as of right now I don't think I can take much more distractions, misplaced information and what not.

What would you do if you were in such a situation?

 

[Yog Sothoth]

I would think my friend is delusional and i would break off contact with her.  Really you can't just believe what people tell you just because they are your ''friends'' ESPECIALLY if they are not dedicated Satanist.  


On Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:42 AM, "taolvanswd@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  There's something that has been on my mind for quite a while and now I decided that I might need some other advice or light or view on it. 

It concerns one of my best friends. We tend to talk about pagan stuff quite a bit at times and she told me that she knows someone on the other world whom had been there for her all her life and even saved her when she was about to hang herself in an attempted suicide.

But what worries me is this. Always, she talked to him and could ask him questions but now when she asks stuff about 'how can I get rid of this' he never answers or gives vague replies. Just about never concrete solid things.

Thats the reason I don't trust it in the first place. Not giving straight up answers or vague answers that obviously won't help. 


Now the thing is about this one of my best friends I know for sure I've known her for a long long time even though not as of now in this lifetime. I just really started to doubt myself on whats real and whats not. Considering her. Considering this.
And basicly its just a complete mess with both of my friends all aquintances etc ... 

I just would like to know, what can I do? Because as of right now I don't think I can take much more distractions, misplaced information and what not.

What would you do if you were in such a situation?

 

[james marshall]

Cut her off and leave her alone from now on. You can't nor should want to save everyone. Some are lost causes and letting your self get dragged into it just causes more casualties, and in this case if you were to become one that means we lost a good Satanist. In war some times the mercy kill is needed. Use 'it' on her and bid her farewell and go on advancing yourself. This is a lonely hard sad road in many respect but you have a loving Father who will always be there for you. One who could destroy a star itself if it meant saving you. While it may not always seem like it Satan is there for us in little ways because he knows the most satisfying life is the one you give yourself. Yet he will never allow us handle more then he knows we can handle. Yes if that dam lieble comes to mind the jooz stole that attribute from Satan to put into that fucked up thing.


On Sunday, October 18, 2015 8:41 AM, "taolvanswd@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  There's something that has been on my mind for quite a while and now I decided that I might need some other advice or light or view on it. 

It concerns one of my best friends. We tend to talk about pagan stuff quite a bit at times and she told me that she knows someone on the other world whom had been there for her all her life and even saved her when she was about to hang herself in an attempted suicide.

But what worries me is this. Always, she talked to him and could ask him questions but now when she asks stuff about 'how can I get rid of this' he never answers or gives vague replies. Just about never concrete solid things.

Thats the reason I don't trust it in the first place. Not giving straight up answers or vague answers that obviously won't help. 


Now the thing is about this one of my best friends I know for sure I've known her for a long long time even though not as of now in this lifetime. I just really started to doubt myself on whats real and whats not. Considering her. Considering this.
And basicly its just a complete mess with both of my friends all aquintances etc ... 

I just would like to know, what can I do? Because as of right now I don't think I can take much more distractions, misplaced information and what not.

What would you do if you were in such a situation?

 

[talonjackman]

Before I came to Satanism, I had a similar situation. I saw my grandmother all the time (who had died when I was 4 years old). We always talked and she would be vague about stuff like that as well. I haven't seen her since I came to Satanism, which makes me believe the being I saw was actually an enemy angel, or possibly even a thoughtform. I'm not really certain what to do about it, but this is some information that perhaps hadn't been thought of. 
Best of luck

 

[Allison Passino]

@James, I really really liked what you said about our Father! Almost
made me cry. I am going through some,well, emotional stuff of late;
won't go into it on here, but I am dealing. But I know for certain if
I did not have Father Satan, and my two beloved guardians, Sorath and
Andras, I would have gone nuts a year ago. Just...yeah. Satan loves
us, and the other Gods of Hell love us very much as well. Satan is
amazing, and I adore him! As long as I have Satan by my side, I can
get through anything. I know this.

To the original poster: it does sound as though your erstwhile friend
is being manipulated by angelic entities. Angels are all about vague
answers and half-truths; this I can say from experience! As hard as it
was to sever that connection, Brother, I think that you probably did
the right thing. For now, I'd say, just focus on Father Satan, and
advancing your own soul. Stay strong in Satan, my Brother! He will
never, ever lead you wrong, and he always goes that extra mile,
because he loves us, more than we ever could realize. Hail Lord/Father
Satan always! Hail Sorath, the One Who Burns! Hail Andras!

On 10/24/15, taolvanswd@... [JoyofSatan666]
<[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

Just found out her and my other 'best' friend supposedly did heroin not too
long ago. Since we can feel whatever is going on if its heavy with one
another I picked up on that too. When your meditations don't work and
stuff.

Need to cut the crap asap.


Its just fcking irresponsible to do such things when you KNOW you are not
the only one being affected by it. Its not the first time I've been dragged
down something I didn't agree on by them. *sigh*

 

[Magus Immortalis]

They might have sold your things to get more drugs. Maybe they don't have the balls to tell you that.If it's a book that is hard to get, keep pressing them. Maybe they will admit to selling it. Ask money for it, then. Or something else, whatever you think is fair for you.
A lot of drug addicts don't respect themselves or other people, or their own and other people's belongings. They might have bartered your belongings to the drug dealer if they couldn't get cash for it. Nothing is low enough for them.
If it's a common book that you can get from a bookstore or online at Amazon.com or some other bookselling site, you might as well get it again, in better condition.
This post might have pissed you off, and for that, I apologize. But I used to be a drug addict many years ago, and have been around them, and know their ways.
I hope you get your stuff back soon, or are able to replace it.



On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 7:26 PM, "taolvanswd@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  @Allison

I have been wondering about these ex friends. I think I have lashed out more times at her (this one) than should be considered healthy and I think she always has played the 'its my fault I should have worked harder' or some other pity part to try to get me back.
AND she keeps saying she didn't break a promise but thats just a sheer straight up lie because drug addicts DO NOT protect their friends!!!

I do not know what is true but it is my decision to move on. And she should just fck off my back already. I mean seriously?! Doing heroin and saying 'drugs are gooooodddd they teach and show you new stufffff and can help you' - It is not the first time, I have dealt with a drug addict before and I am right now just completely utterly done with it. 
That .... (she doesn't even deserve to be called a name) is now like 'yeah lets get high or stoned or w/e cuz I did that in a past life and I dont want to live anymore anyway'. 


.... Seriously this is a typic drug addict set up. First she started doing weed to help against her anxiety. Fine with me. But this has gone too far.

Now all I want is to just get my stuff back. She didn't even bother to take my cap or the pluche thing (we exchanged some things for a while and I already gave her her stuff back) with her when she went back home to where she lived to get some of her own stuff. That and there is also a book I'd like to have back.

 

[livingforsatan]

@Taol, sometimes, the best thing you can do is out-grow a friendship, due to its toxicity.

 

[Magus Immortalis]

I just realized the tone of my previous message. To sum it up, what I really meant to say, was:
<b [/IMG]Keep bad[/IMG]That's what I meant to get across.[/B]


On Sunday, November 1, 2015 5:14 PM, "Magus Immortalis magus.immortalis@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  They might have sold your things to get more drugs. Maybe they don't have the balls to tell you that.If it's a book that is hard to get, keep pressing them. Maybe they will admit to selling it. Ask money for it, then. Or something else, whatever you think is fair for you.
A lot of drug addicts don't respect themselves or other people, or their own and other people's belongings. They might have bartered your belongings to the drug dealer if they couldn't get cash for it. Nothing is low enough for them.
If it's a common book that you can get from a bookstore or online at Amazon.com or some other bookselling site, you might as well get it again, in better condition.
This post might have pissed you off, and for that, I apologize. But I used to be a drug addict many years ago, and have been around them, and know their ways.
I hope you get your stuff back soon, or are able to replace it.



On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 7:26 PM, "taolvanswd@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  @Allison

I have been wondering about these ex friends. I think I have lashed out more times at her (this one) than should be considered healthy and I think she always has played the 'its my fault I should have worked harder' or some other pity part to try to get me back.
AND she keeps saying she didn't break a promise but thats just a sheer straight up lie because drug addicts DO NOT protect their friends!!!

I do not know what is true but it is my decision to move on. And she should just fck off my back already. I mean seriously?! Doing heroin and saying 'drugs are gooooodddd they teach and show you new stufffff and can help you' - It is not the first time, I have dealt with a drug addict before and I am right now just completely utterly done with it. 
That .... (she doesn't even deserve to be called a name) is now like 'yeah lets get high or stoned or w/e cuz I did that in a past life and I dont want to live anymore anyway'. 


.... Seriously this is a typic drug addict set up. First she started doing weed to help against her anxiety. Fine with me. But this has gone too far.

Now all I want is to just get my stuff back. She didn't even bother to take my cap or the pluche thing (we exchanged some things for a while and I already gave her her stuff back) with her when she went back home to where she lived to get some of her own stuff. That and there is also a book I'd like to have back.

 

[Chase Harris]

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I'm sorry that ur friend decided to tweek off ur shit I know how that is 
From:"Magus Immortalis magus.immortalis@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected]
Date:Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 5:32 PM
Subject:Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: worried (opinions asked)

  I just realized the tone of my previous message. To sum it up, what I really meant to say, was:
<b [/IMG]Keep bad[/IMG]That's what I meant to get across.[/B]


On Sunday, November 1, 2015 5:14 PM, "Magus Immortalis magus.immortalis@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  They might have sold your things to get more drugs. Maybe they don't have the balls to tell you that.If it's a book that is hard to get, keep pressing them. Maybe they will admit to selling it. Ask money for it, then. Or something else, whatever you think is fair for you.
A lot of drug addicts don't respect themselves or other people, or their own and other people's belongings. They might have bartered your belongings to the drug dealer if they couldn't get cash for it. Nothing is low enough for them.
If it's a common book that you can get from a bookstore or online at Amazon.com or some other bookselling site, you might as well get it again, in better condition.
This post might have pissed you off, and for that, I apologize. But I used to be a drug addict many years ago, and have been around them, and know their ways.
I hope you get your stuff back soon, or are able to replace it.



On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 7:26 PM, "taolvanswd@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  @Allison

I have been wondering about these ex friends. I think I have lashed out more times at her (this one) than should be considered healthy and I think she always has played the 'its my fault I should have worked harder' or some other pity part to try to get me back.
AND she keeps saying she didn't break a promise but thats just a sheer straight up lie because drug addicts DO NOT protect their friends!!!

I do not know what is true but it is my decision to move on. And she should just fck off my back already. I mean seriously?! Doing heroin and saying 'drugs are gooooodddd they teach and show you new stufffff and can help you' - It is not the first time, I have dealt with a drug addict before and I am right now just completely utterly done with it. 
That .... (she doesn't even deserve to be called a name) is now like 'yeah lets get high or stoned or w/e cuz I did that in a past life and I dont want to live anymore anyway'. 


.... Seriously this is a typic drug addict set up. First she started doing weed to help against her anxiety. Fine with me. But this has gone too far.

Now all I want is to just get my stuff back. She didn't even bother to take my cap or the pluche thing (we exchanged some things for a while and I already gave her her stuff back) with her when she went back home to where she lived to get some of her own stuff. That and there is also a book I'd like to have back.



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[descipleofthegods13]

@Taol_Van_Sherwood.

As you Spiritually Advance you will be able to tell these things without asking, although it was a good idea to ask as we are a Family.

You have to have an attitude of caution when addressing other people as a Spiritual Satanist. I would recommend that begin learning more about yourself, as the more you begin to know yourself the more you will understand things not only psychically, but also in all details in your surroundings as you become aware. As you Spiritually Advance which should be Guided by Satan personally, your mind and Soul will begin opening up progressively. These Meditations are very powerful though, and should NOT be taken lightly.

People need to realize that when you Dedioucate and return to Satay that it is not a free for all thing where people are free to do whatever Meditations they wish, at any rate. In time you will be able to tell things like this because you will KNOW in your Soul. These things take a lot of time and should not be rushed. These Meditations are also very powerful whether you take then for granted or not they still are and should be Guided in your Spiritual Advancement by Satan. You don't know how to  this, and neither did I as I was led to multiple Meditations by Satan Himself and am performing some of them now, and more for later. The affects of these Meditations should be taken seriously as this is your Path to Godhood.

Take your Spiritual Advancement as serious as your life. That is what one of my Guardians told me today. Satanism is an extremely serious Religion you primal focus should be first Satan, and immediately after your Spiritual Advancement.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/JoS ... topics/284

This is a sermon you should read and do your best to understand, it will help you along your Spiritual Journey and your Path to Godhood.
 

 

[zolaluckystar1]

You most likely won't get your things back I'm afraid...I was a wild child in my younger days and been around my fair share of drug addicts many years ago so I know, as Magus does...and also sometimes people don't return someones stuff as a way to keep them hanging on and to keep a piece of them. This can often be unconsciously done. You might want to consider the loss of a few items a small price to pay to gain a personal insight and the wisdom to recognize this isn't working for you. How much energy do you want to waste chasing her that you could be putting into more beneficial things? Perhaps the best thing is to cut your energetic ties to the material goods and move on? I don't know, just a few ideas. Hope you get it sorted out OK.

 

[Gabriel Toscani]

<td val[/IMG]Always remember, when dealing with these Xians, that it is better to stand your ground, with your beliefs. You needn't speak of your beliefs, however, keep them close. Xians always live in a sub-servant capacity and often attempt to sway belief. It's proven in that thing they live by, called the bible.
If you suspect theft, then you are most likely correct. Never turn the other cheek. You may confront.

From:"Magus Immortalis magus.immortalis@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected]
Date:Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 18:31
Subject:Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: worried (opinions asked)

  I just realized the tone of my previous message. To sum it up, what I really meant to say, was:
<b [/IMG]Keep bad[/IMG]That's what I meant to get across.[/B]


On Sunday, November 1, 2015 5:14 PM, "Magus Immortalis magus.immortalis@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  They might have sold your things to get more drugs. Maybe they don't have the balls to tell you that.If it's a book that is hard to get, keep pressing them. Maybe they will admit to selling it. Ask money for it, then. Or something else, whatever you think is fair for you.
A lot of drug addicts don't respect themselves or other people, or their own and other people's belongings. They might have bartered your belongings to the drug dealer if they couldn't get cash for it. Nothing is low enough for them.
If it's a common book that you can get from a bookstore or online at Amazon.com or some other bookselling site, you might as well get it again, in better condition.
This post might have pissed you off, and for that, I apologize. But I used to be a drug addict many years ago, and have been around them, and know their ways.
I hope you get your stuff back soon, or are able to replace it.



On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 7:26 PM, "taolvanswd@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  @Allison

I have been wondering about these ex friends. I think I have lashed out more times at her (this one) than should be considered healthy and I think she always has played the 'its my fault I should have worked harder' or some other pity part to try to get me back.
AND she keeps saying she didn't break a promise but thats just a sheer straight up lie because drug addicts DO NOT protect their friends!!!

I do not know what is true but it is my decision to move on. And she should just fck off my back already. I mean seriously?! Doing heroin and saying 'drugs are gooooodddd they teach and show you new stufffff and can help you' - It is not the first time, I have dealt with a drug addict before and I am right now just completely utterly done with it. 
That .... (she doesn't even deserve to be called a name) is now like 'yeah lets get high or stoned or w/e cuz I did that in a past life and I dont want to live anymore anyway'. 


.... Seriously this is a typic drug addict set up. First she started doing weed to help against her anxiety. Fine with me. But this has gone too far.

Now all I want is to just get my stuff back. She didn't even bother to take my cap or the pluche thing (we exchanged some things for a while and I already gave her her stuff back) with her when she went back home to where she lived to get some of her own stuff. That and there is also a book I'd like to have back.



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[iorost]

Your friends will be easier to manipulate if they are truly taking heroine and whatnot. Be patient and wait. An opportunity will present itself where if you play it fake like them, you'll have a chance to reclaim what is yours. When you confront them visualize at the same time. Try to meditate and use blue flame on them. It works for me, they seem helpless.
One of your friends is being manipulated by the enemy without it expending much effort. This is probably due to your friend having suffered some past emotional trauma, or she is just stupid. Either way you need to destroy this grey as it is an enemy of all mankind and should be crushed on principle. Don't help your friend after you're done butchering the grey though. She needs to help herself and if worthy or ready she will accept the truth. Just don't count on it.

 

[descipleofthegods13]

@Taol_Van_Sherwood.

You have to let it go. Do you understand how that affects your Soul. It's like anything you are too attached to, or are addicted to. It affects your Spiritual Progress. I have personally let go of multiple things regardless of what feelings if any arose about it. I have left popular media behind namely.

I no longer want it as I realize what it is, an improper way to spend one's time.

It's the same with the objects you want back. Realize what is going on in your Soul. You are stuck on objects you may never see again. DO NOT let small things like this get in your way.

It's like High Priest Hooded Cobra said in the Begginer's PDF I have been personally instructed by Satan Himself even though I have capability beyond that entirely as he has shown me how powerful I am personally.

"Let none stand in your way, not even your 'own' self."

It's right to let Satan Direct your Spiritual Progress instead of trying to figure it out on your own. He is our Creator, Father, and He knows how he wants it done according to His plan. I have been introduced to Meditations that at a beginning level you would think you would wait more than 3 years to be able to do, but He personally led me to them because of His plan for my life, and my Spiritual Advancement.

I am doing the Begginer's Meditations because He wants to Direct me into understanding my Powers the proper way. Instead of going around trying random Meditations and not progressing much.

I have a question about the Sun Square in that regard. How exactly do one perform it? And what exactly does it do? I have no idea about what it is, or what it does. Just that Satan led me to it.

My Guardian Demoness has also led me to a Munka working which Satan gave to her to give to me.

I am going to use it for ridding myself of all food, and drink addictions which is necessary to complete the Magnum Opus. You have to have your Soul totally clean, and prepared in order to do it as I have read on the JoyOfSatan. Food, and drinks are to be nutritious, and ejoyed not addicting as so many companies promote these days and try to hide in public.

 

[zolaluckystar1]

Fair enough. A journal. That's different. I get that. I had about a thousand or two pages of journals and lucid dreams I painstakingly transcribed stolen by my psycho ex. He also physically abused the shit out of me and that I have...while never forgotten or forgiven, it doesn't rule me. I don't dwell. I survived when he did his best to destroy me. He ended up paying VERY heavily for his crimes. Not entirely my doing either. But everything he tried turned back on him. Somebody was protecting me. I won't go on. Though it still infuriates if I think of the mind rape; all my work, my dreams, my thoughts, my creativity stolen by that fucking cockroach. Somehow that was the worst.

Anyhow, I'm just saying pick your battles. Oh, I just remembered: when dealing with a drug addict who needed to return something of mine (long time ago) - my intuition said he had NO intention of ever doing so - so I got my hands on something of his that I knew he couldn't do without and held it for 'ransom'. The payment was getting my thing back. it worked. He paid. Good luck!