Question About Heterosexual Men

[ETERNAL_LIFE_666]

Why is it that most heterosexual men dont have a problem with having a platonic relationship with other men but whenever they find out that you are bisexual or homosexual they act like you have the plague and that they will catch some kind of disease just by being in close proximity to you?

 

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

I’m not like that but I assume because they don’t want you having a crush on them or trying to get in their pants, which may sound ridiculous to you but it’s true.

 

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

I’m not like that but I assume because they don’t want you having a crush on them or trying to get in their pants, which may sound ridiculous to you but it’s true.

 

[Jack]

This is because most Heterosexual men are Afraid of acknowledging the homoeroticism that is present within us all. Not having been taught how to think about emotions and the feelings emanating from the body and raised in a culture that shames Feelings in men, they have begun to shame their own bodies from whence feelings emanate. They only allow themselves to feel these feelings when they are having sex with a woman and in those fleeting movements they allow themselves to feel their whole emotions and the woman also serves as a validation mechanism for their manhood. This is a wrong and improper mechanism. These men haven't changed from boys into men which means opening the body to a full sense of emotions. The Gay man and the Bisexual man represents everything that is the antithesis of what the heterosexual man thinks is Mans reality. The gay men can have a full sense of their emotions and have acknowledged their emotions and feelings as part of them. They are afraid of that which they know exists within and have suppressed it within. When subjected to the outside view of homoeroticism, they begin to hate them because they hate that part of themselves within. It has nothing to do with Gay men or women and everything to do with their refusal to accept the homoeroticism within. All men and women have some part of homerotic tendencies within that they refuse to acknowledge.

 

[Sundara]

Why is it that most heterosexual men dont have a problem with having a platonic relationship with other men but whenever they find out that you are bisexual or homosexual they act like you have the plague and that they will catch some kind of disease just by being in close proximity to you?

Religious suppression of sexuality and freedom. Even in those that are non practicing, it’s embedded into their heads from a young age.

 

[FancyMancy]

Because of the post-christianity sexual inhibitions.

 

[High Priestess Lydia]

Because a heterosexual man knows that if he is friends with a woman, there is another motivation on some level. Even if they are strictly just friends and neither of them wants to be in a sexual or romantic kind of relationship together, the heterosexual man will naturally think about this and want this sometimes.

So if he is friends with a gay or bisexual man, the heterosexual man will feel like the gay man could probably have some times when he is a little bit interested in him in a sexual or romantic kind of way. Because he thinks "That's just how guys are." This leads to a feeling kind of like being covered in fish blood and floating in the water with sharks. Which is horrible if that is how women always feel around men. So he just wants to get away from the gay man to ensure that the gay man won't have the idea one day that he wants something else from him.

This is the mindset of most heterosexual men, might be stronger or weaker but it's this kind of idea. Because we know how we are if we are friends with a beautiful girl, and we don't want the gay man getting those kind of ideas toward us.

I'm just chiming in to say this is exactly what I've heard from many hetero men. They want a friend who they know will just be friends, and not develop feeling or anything for them. Because that always ruins friendships between opposite-sex friends, when one develops feelings, so it's natural to assume it will run the same risk, for same-sex friends where one is homo/bi-sexual.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I'm just chiming in to say this is exactly what I've heard from many hetero men. They want a friend who they know will just be friends, and not develop feeling or anything for them. Because that always ruins friendships between opposite-sex friends, when one develops feelings, so it's natural to assume it will run the same risk, for same-sex friends where one is homo/bi-sexual.

How is it for women with male friends? I guess a lot of them sometimes feel like a salmon in front of a bear. Nobody wants to feel like that.

 

[Ghost in the Machine]

Well not all of them are like that.

Met a hetero guy in a gay community who was apparently just chilling out there just because it was popular. I assumed he was also gay and we've been friends for years now, but for the first 6 months of our friendship I was practically sexually harassing him with how jokingly flirtatious I was before I finally asked him if he was even gay. He told me he was as straight as an arrow and even had a girlfriend at the time.

It was a grand laugh but damn... seriously, damn... he didn't even flinch at me once the whole time for all those months.

We're still friends and still hang out.

 

[Darksage666]

I’m a straight guy and i have no problem with gays or people who are bisexual. I don’t mind befriending them either but all i ask is that they don’t to make any sexual advances towards me because i am ‘straight’.

I know a lot of guys who are the same way, they don’t care, just don’t act gay towards them.

but then yes, there are people are mean towards gays and people who are bisexual. i know what you’re talking about.

probably depends on where you are at.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

I'm just chiming in to say this is exactly what I've heard from many hetero men. They want a friend who they know will just be friends, and not develop feeling or anything for them. Because that always ruins friendships between opposite-sex friends, when one develops feelings, so it's natural to assume it will run the same risk, for same-sex friends where one is homo/bi-sexual.

How is it for women with male friends? I guess a lot of them sometimes feel like a salmon in front of a bear. Nobody wants to feel like that.

I cant say much about group conversations nor a lot about irl things, but when I was speaking one on one to them online they seem to mind their manners and only act like dorks with their male friends.
Same about irl when I was having lunch with a couple of em they make jokes amongst themselves and though it takes a little bit of thinking to understand it wasnt all that bad. Just makes me feel awkward not knowing what to say.

Experiences are personal. Ive heard of a girl saying that at her job (in a fastfood restaurant) there was some old guy making a remark like her maybe going to be his new wife or something. Probably because she looked somewhat middle eastern but she didnt have relatives there it was only skin color.

I think that it seems to talk about sexual relationships in a healthy manner is a huge task. But I guess it also depends on the person that you are talking with.

It may just be me but yes sometimes I think it is a little scary talking to a male person but I think this really depends on how mentally screwed they are. Like when I was playing on a roleplay chat server and this dude just kept killing everyone over and over again.. I thought he was okayish at first but later resorted to this crap.

 

[Sunny]

Why is it that most heterosexual men dont have a problem with having a platonic relationship with other men but whenever they find out that you are bisexual or homosexual they act like you have the plague and that they will catch some kind of disease just by being in close proximity to you?

Because of the enemy's indoctrination. I agree with Stormblood that love relationships should not be just for sexual enjoyment or just for procreation but a larger set of function and values.

 

[Stormblood]

When someone has a disciplined mind (Satanism 101, Void Meditation and related beginner practices), when you ignore something it goes away. Period. For those less disciplined, they may have to ignore it several times for it to go away, but eventually it's a done deal and it won't happen again. For people who lack discipline in their mind, then it's up to them to work on it, not to blame it on others and criminalise others just because they lack any self-control.

For me, if I know someone is heterosexual, even if they are super gorgeous, something ticks in my brain and I'm no longer able to develop romantic feelings and sexual feelings for them. So, this portion of my mind is well-disciplined. This is what everyone should strive for in order, not only to grow, but also to leave friendship serenely, instead of building up needless hangups and damaging other people in the process.

But it's true that most NPCs - regardless of their sexual orientation - lack self-awareness to a significant degree. So, let's not take wrong examples from them.

 

[Sunny]

I'm not against gays, lesbians and bisexuals but there's no knowledge about it. For this to be accepted, an explanation is necessary. Without understanding we can only be forced to refuse or we can only be forced to accept. Thanks to the enemy, this has long remained a dark and violently rejected topic instead of being addressed and clarified. Both men and women are built by the same and both hormones, male and female. The only difference is whether male or female hormones dominate and consequently determine sex. The rest 70% of the body is the same for both sexes. Men and women possess both male and female characteristics and components. Breasts do not develop in men because men are dominated by male hormones. The clitoris is the same component that the penis develops in men. Speaking of breasts. I thought it was a hormonal imbalance in women who have no breasts. But I found out it's not imbalance, it's genetics. This is demonstrated by women who don't have breasts but have a prominent ass. But there are also cases of men and women who, the hormones that determined the formation of their sex, is not very dominant but also the opposite hormone is in large amounts and we have men who have female characteristics and are female and we have women who their female hormones do not dominate much and these women also have some male characteristics and are male. For more details, do your own research.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

So, are you saying that heterosexual men are broken and don't know the clear boundaries between friendship and a romantic relationship? You say it's natural and in some cases it may be true... to think about it, not to want it. To want to have something sexual or romantic with someone like that is no longer friendship, but something else.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying that they are going to do any action to cross any boundaries, but they are going to think about it sometimes. If you know someone who is physically very attractive, you are going to think about that sometimes. And heterosexual men don't want other men thinking about them like that.

I'm not saying that any of this is the best way to think or the perfect logic for someone to have, but this is what the situation is nearly 100% of the time for the question the topic is asking about.

You said it yourself you are only guessing and can't say for sure what the actual heterosexual perspective and reasoning is since you are gay. This is the heterosexual perspective.

You have an amount of discipline and strict self control that is more than almost anyone else in the world, just because of your own personality. So also in that way you can't really see other people's perspectives since yours is so different.

 

[Stormblood]

So, are you saying that heterosexual men are broken and don't know the clear boundaries between friendship and a romantic relationship? You say it's natural and in some cases it may be true... to think about it, not to want it. To want to have something sexual or romantic with someone like that is no longer friendship, but something else.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying that they are going to do any action to cross any boundaries, but they are going to think about it sometimes. If you know someone who is physically very attractive, you are going to think about that sometimes. And heterosexual men don't want other men thinking about them like that.

I'm not saying that any of this is the best way to think or the perfect logic for someone to have, but this is what the situation is nearly 100% of the time for the question the topic is asking about.

You said it yourself you are only guessing and can't say for sure what the actual heterosexual perspective and reasoning is since you are gay. This is the heterosexual perspective.

You have an amount of discipline and strict self control that is more than almost anyone else in the world, just because of your own personality. So also in that way you can't really see other people's perspectives since yours is so different.

Thinking that someone is attractive is one thing, getting aroused and having sexual thoughts about them is another thing and that's where having a disciplined mind comes into place: those thoughts and feelings are not going to manifest any longer once you "categorise" someone as "non-sexual" and "non-romantic".

No, I didn't say anywhere that I'm guessing. Please, don't try to paraphrase my words to find inner meanings. I'm a straightforward person. The only moment when I'm subtle is when I'm teaching people, which here is not the case. What I stated is literal.

Believe it or not, some heterosexuals have told me the exact words I related in the last paragraph of my first reply to this topic.

Having self-control also doesn't translate to inability to put myself in other people shoes. Perceptivess is one of my strong points, because the water element is strong in my chart. Self-control is not a personality trait but a skill: some developed it in past lives and have it now, other can develop it in this life. Whatever the case, mental discipline is a basic ability for SS. We don't void meditate since day 1 just because we have nothing better to do. "Anyone else in the world" is mostly NPCs and I already explained that NPCs are unreliable, as are some spiritual Satanists.

 

[ShadowTheRaven]

Because then we start questioning ourselves whether he actually wants to keep the relationship platonic, or just wants to fuck us (or get fucked by us) either way, my reaction is the same. I don't swing that way, get over it.

 

[Gearshift]

...E.E. Grandfather...

Would it be fair to state that your grandfather's programming skills and electrical engineering skills would allow him to program in assembler or even machine code in such manner as his extreme skill? I mean he is working at level below binary which is the very essence of the circuitry. Probably on top of that also working with Verilog and other circuitry building language programs.

I ask because there is a person on Osdev.org, that built his own operating system out of machine code, he didn't use Hexadecimal(3FFF25, 2ACCD) he used Decimal(101, 245, 018). Maybe it's right up your grandfather's alley in something for him to thinker with, since I assume he is retired, right?

http://www.magicschoolbook.com/computing/os-project

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

...E.E. Grandfather...

Would it be fair to state that your grandfather's programming skills and electrical engineering skills would allow him to program in assembler or even machine code in such manner as his extreme skill? I mean he is working at level below binary which is the very essence of the circuitry. Probably on top of that also working with Verilog and other circuitry building language programs.

I ask because there is a person on Osdev.org, that built his own operating system out of machine code, he didn't use Hexadecimal(3FFF25, 2ACCD) he used Decimal(101, 245, 018). Maybe it's right up your grandfather's alley in something for him to thinker with, since I assume he is retired, right?

http://www.magicschoolbook.com/computing/os-project

Ya, he worked with machine code and C. When he was in a technical highschool, they had a computer with dip switches on the front of it and they had to do the switch pattern of the machine code bits of the starting program to get it to start. Before operating systems made it so everything starts up when you push the power button. I never heard of verilog, maybe he has, I'll ask him.

He doesn't do much with code anymore, that was long ago. When he made his own full design, he had one of his friends help him with doing the code. His focus is all electrical, designing and fixing circuit boards, and how they all work together. I don't want to say what this technology is, but there is also a lot of mechanical parts involved. So he also works on fixing any problem that can come up in the whole system.

He still hasn't retired, and he probably won't for a very long time. He's old enough, but he just doesn't want to stop. He had a little more than a month at home because of corona, I call it practice retirement, but he started going back to work again some days when they need him. For the problems nobody else can fix. But it made him get a lot of good work done at home, and forced him to slow down enough to realize that he would also be happy at home when he does finally retire.

 

[Jack]

Because then we start questioning ourselves whether he actually wants to keep the relationship platonic, or just wants to fuck us (or get fucked by us) either way, my reaction is the same. I don't swing that way, get over it.

Now you got a little insight into how a woman thinks.

 

[ShadowTheRaven]

Now you got a little insight into how a woman thinks.

Not really because a man will tell you straight up, even if it hurts your feelings. A woman will expect you to read minds. Kinda makes me wish I was gay.

 

[ShadowTheRaven]

Some homos expect you to read minds as well.

Really? Almost all the gay men I've met were straightforward about their intentions.

 

[Jack]

Now you got a little insight into how a woman thinks.

Not really because a man will tell you straight up, even if it hurts your feelings. A woman will expect you to read minds. Kinda makes me wish I was gay.

Some homos expect you to read minds as well.

Yeah because heterosexual men are very good at reading womens minds.
(Sarcasm )

 

[Stormblood]

Some homos expect you to read minds as well.

Really? Almost all the gay men I've met were straightforward about their intentions.

You could say most are straightforward about sex but with most other things they play mind games :roll: At least, that was my limited experience with it.

 

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

Some homos expect you to read minds as well.

Really? Almost all the gay men I've met were straightforward about their intentions.

You could say most are straightforward about sex but with most other things they play mind games :roll: At least, that was my limited experience with it.

Can verify. I had to deal firsthand with one who would go along with my suggestions for activities and say outright that that's good with him and everything is fine, but would then guilt trip me for not doing activities he wanted to do. Activities he didn't insist on or even bring up more than half the time. It's apparently a rather common phenomenon with gay men in my age group and I just don't have the patience for that kind of bullshit.