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Other Zevists

scorpiorising1 min to read

I'm a fairly new Zevists and to ToZ.

So, I am curious to know...

I saw quite a few posts on other social media networks what other Zevists thought of ToZ. They seem to be very repulsed by ToZ Zevists.

Since I'm new, I have to fulfill my natural curiosity by asking if Zevism of ToZ consider other Zevists as Zevists, equally? Or do ToZ Zevists see self (as group) as totally different and differentiated from others?

What is it that sets ToZ Zevists from other types of Zevists?

What do other Zevists do/believe differently than Zevism's of ToZ?

I see many other types of Zevists (who call themselves traditional or even Zevists) post things of Aleister Crowley.

These are what I wonder. And it's not that I doubt ToZ per sé. You know, being new and still learning/doing as much as I can and being a naturally curious person, I had to ask these questions so that I may have a clearer understanding.

Thank you.

#1

ToZ is the only Zevism. The others are hoaxes.

#2
scorpiorisingsaid:

I'm a fairly new Zevism and to ToZ.

So, I am curious to know...

I saw quite a few posts on other social media networks what other Zevists thought of ToZ. They seem to be very repulsed by ToZ Zevism's.

I consider someone is a Zevist if he does the Final Ritual, so we don´t get assimilated into the borg massmind of the enemy.
About crowley--->
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=18469&p=72026&hilit=crowley#p72026

From this point of view everybody who does nothing is not a Zevist.

#3

Aside from what has already been stated by the rest, there is no other Zevism. The use of Spiritual together with Satanism was coined by High Priestess Pythia. It didn't exist before ToZ was created.

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#4

All the other ones are based on qlippoth or goetia, which are collections of curses and spiritual poisons from the middle ages written by christians. All just nonsense lists of ways to invoke christian curses and thoughtforms, instructions to chant curses into your own soul hundreds of times which would rip your soul apart and cause insanity if someone does it, and a bunch of wiccan nonsense all mixed together. All programs created by mideival christians as a way to purposefully poison their enemies. This is what Crowley is about, he would chant all these curses into himself, connect himself with thousands of destructive thought-forms and curses, and doing all kinds of drugs.

Read these 4 topics, these are the dumb nonsense things that all the other "Zevist" groups are built from.

Zevism and Goetia http://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10657

Goetic Enns? Fake and Disrespectful, or Legit? http://Www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5688

The Qlippothic Kabbalah http://Www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3089&p=17839

Qlippoth http://Www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1695

What we are about here is actually working on empowering and healing our souls by using actual traditional methods that have been used in every ancient culture all over the world. The Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Indian, Chinese, South American, African, all the greatest and most advanced cultures all over the world all had the exact same beliefs and the exact same actions of how to take care of the soul and make it stronger. This is what we are about here. We do not have anything new here, it is not anything that was not also central importance to Egypt and Greece, and every other place.

While all the other dumb groups completely ignore all of history, they are not about anything from the world's Golden Age cultures. The only thing those groups are about is some nonsense that some dumb christians pulled out of their ass 500 years ago. The same christians who murdered all pagans and burnt them alive, and these groups go to that same christian and do what he said. And it's all a nonsense mix of curses, lies, insanity, christianity, and pretending to be something dumb like a werewolf or a vampire. You find some homeless drug person at the train station shouting all kinds of mixed up nonsense, and he is about the same as those qlippoth losers.

#5
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

Since we have direct protection from Satan and His Demons, as we are in full accordance to what they want, which is for them to be known to the world, the ancient faiths restored, and a peaceful environment for their followers to grow in Zevism and advancing spiritually, but also positive social change away from the three things Satan hates: Christianity, Islam and Judaism. This includes all the traditional values of Zevism both philosophical and otherwise such as advancement of science, common sense, restoration of nature and respect to it.

This part especially is very inspiring. This planet, and our civilization, is going to be so beautiful, once Spiritual Zevism is open and everywhere :)

#6
Lydiasaid:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

Since we have direct protection from Satan and His Demons, as we are in full accordance to what they want, which is for them to be known to the world, the ancient faiths restored, and a peaceful environment for their followers to grow in Zevism and advancing spiritually, but also positive social change away from the three things Satan hates: Christianity, Islam and Judaism. This includes all the traditional values of Zevism both philosophical and otherwise such as advancement of science, common sense, restoration of nature and respect to it.

This part especially is very inspiring. This planet, and our civilization, is going to be so beautiful, once Zevism is open and everywhere :)

The saying when in Rome do as the Roman's will come back.

#7
scorpiorisingsaid:

I'm a fairly new Zevism and to ToZ.

So, I am curious to know...

I saw quite a few posts on other social media networks what other Zevists thought of ToZ. They seem to be very repulsed by ToZ Zevism's.

I have had the same question.
Well in my view, all Zevists who are TRUE Zevists are my brother and sisters. Be it inside the ToZ or outside of it.
The only issue is that most Zevists are fake. So if I meet a Zevist outside of ToZ, I don’t even consider them to be true Zevists.
Well if they believe in Satan, and see Satan as their own god, then I am able to give them much credit for it and respect them, and I would try to show them ToZ.
With ToZ we have another problem not all useres here on the forums are Zevists aswell. Some if them are the enemy, some of them are just random freaks, drug addicts etc. So not even here all people you meet are Zevists, if you ask me.

And then we have Zevist who have dedicated their soul to Father Zeus, and who will be protected by Father and the gods. The problem is, that some people have dedicated BUT they don’t do shit. They don’t meditate and they don’t do the Rituals and they don’t do material work for Satan, like promoting Zeus, our Gods and Zevism in the right way.
Those guys are „Children“ in my view. Satan takes care of them, but they don’t want to grow up. So they are not really strong Zevists.

Now STRONG Zevist are Zevist who are ready to fucking die for Satan. But Satan doesn‘t want you to die, nor is it helpful, it is the opposite, when you die Satan has to take care even more for you. So if you are really ready to die for Satan, then do WORK FOR SATAN.
Meditate, try to become as strong as you can get, do the Rituals, and do material work for Satan, be it to fight the enemy in someway or to promote Zevism.

Sorry for my long aswere lol

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#8
Lydiasaid:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

Since we have direct protection from Satan and His Demons, as we are in full accordance to what they want, which is for them to be known to the world, the ancient faiths restored, and a peaceful environment for their followers to grow in Zevism and advancing spiritually, but also positive social change away from the three things Satan hates: Christianity, Islam and Judaism. This includes all the traditional values of Zevism both philosophical and otherwise such as advancement of science, common sense, restoration of nature and respect to it.

This part especially is very inspiring. This planet, and our civilization, is going to be so beautiful, once Zevism is open and everywhere :)

Just a few days ago while 'projecting' onto the astral to do renovations on my temple, a demon had suddenly brought me to his room on Duat for company and friendship during my bout of loneliness, and I simply cannot describe how immensely pleasant and harmonic that entire planet's energies are.

I wanted to cry, it was unbelievable. The energy and air felt so clean, it was like I could 'breathe' better, all the colours felt so much more alive and it was like an entire invisible binding veil was gone, like a suffocating shroud was entirely absent, I simply can't explain the feeling. I still remember it so clearly and it still almost brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it.

I felt Satan's energy everywhere, so much so that I would've mistaken the demon I was with for Satan himself if not for intuitively telling otherwise. It felt like everything was free and expansive and not confined and choking, like my mind could extend further and beyond the visible environment around me, it felt so open like a boundless field of vibrant green grass in the sunlight with air so pure you could almost touch it like the softest of silk.

That was my first time on Duat and I could hardly even focus on the companionship of the demon because I was so shaken and in shock with how beautiful it felt to simply be there, and I didn't even see outside the room that's how beautiful and free it felt to even just be indoors. It motivated me immensely in what we're fighting for. I desperately want our planet to be like that because that felt nothing like our Earth as it is now. I want it to be so.

We have to save this planet.

#9
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Hello,

I have seen that many members have answered your questions, I do not yet have the same knowledge and wisdom that they have; but I would like to share with you my experience that I had in a "Zevist" group before I met ToZ and who knows I can help you.

1) For you to make the covenant with Satan (that's what they call dedication), you must have the permission of the "master" and the "priestess"; for it is they who determine who can or cannot make the covenant

2) You have to buy the "master's" books to have access to the "prayers" and some "rituals

3) In order to participate in study groups both via whatsapp and Facebook, you must have their approval

4) For the most powerful "rituals" and "prayers", you have to answer a questionnaire to be accepted on Facebook

5) The "priestess" always teaches that "Zevists" can commit crimes without the slightest problem, because Satan and demons always deliver "Zevists" from the possible consequences of their actions

6) They have a "prayer" where the Zevist who feels he no longer has the strength to fight, it is only by praying this prayer that Satan kills this Zevist

7) There is a devil for each day of the week that you must invoke and a prayer of your own

8) If you ask any questions or do not agree with any of their positions, you are expelled from the group

9) There you do not talk with Satan or demons, because only the "master" and the "priesthood" have this right and this occurs through incorporation of the "master"; where during the sessions are always watered with cigars and alcoholic beverages that Satan and demons drink (if you have ever been in any macumba, umbanda or candomblé yard, you will see that it is the same way)

To conclude, here at ToZ you don't need permission from HP's to make your Dedication to Satan, you don't have to buy a book from anyone to have access to knowledge, access to the Forum is for whoever you want, you have the help and guidance from HP's and members whenever you need it, everyone can talk to Zeus and the Gods (it only depends on you and your development), you have the site that is full of knowledge and guidance.

If you still have questions, read all the Forum posts (I know it will take a long time); read the site and reflect a lot and then make your decision.

As I said in the beginning, I don't have the wisdom of HP's and other members; but I hope my experience can help you.

#10

Thank you so much for all of your clarity. Much appreciated.

I have an Instagram account and just doing a search by hashtags of "Zevists" brings up so many accounts of "Zevists" with Crowley. My intuition tells me these Zevists do not have a clear understanding of Satan or of being a true Zevist. And also, what I noticed is the pentagram with circle and Hebrew letters. Even within the Satanic community, clearly, so many are clueless. They're blind, following whatever is on the surface.

Just doesn't make any sense.

I'm only an almost year old baby Zevist, soaking in all the info here and the main site slowly so that I don't mentally overwhelm myself. But even as a baby Zevist, I sense there is something not right with the other Zevists.

You have no idea, all of my life, I have been looking and searching for the truth. I grew up with so many questions in my mind about humans, religion, origins of humans, why the world adopts such christian value, Jesus this or Jesus that. Or why people have such a demented view of demons when the meaning of that word is nothing cruel. Or why the Vikings are so vilified. Until I stumbled upon ToZ site doing my underground research of spiritual subjects and human origins. I never stopped wondering, asking questions within me, etc.

Finding ToZ is like a breath of great air or like... something that feels like home. And everything just makes perfect sense! Maybe my guardian demon had always been close to me and me to him/her that it was destined for me to find ToZ. And I am ever so grateful. Idk, everything just makes sense, the things I read on ToZ. The puzzle pieces fits.

#11

One more thing...

Wouldn't we consider others outside of ToZ as Zevists who has a faith that is still "Satanic" or spiritual alchemy? Like the Yezidi? Or those of Norse origin and are pagan (although small numbers)? Or those in Asia who still practice the old religion honoring the gods?

Some here mention they only consider others a Zevist if they do the final Ritual. However, how does that fair with the rest of the world who still practice the old ways? They don't know what a final Ritual is.

Just trying to wrap my head around things and understand as much as possible.

#12
scorpiorisingsaid:

One more thing...

Wouldn't we consider others outside of ToZ as Zevists who has a faith that is still "Satanic" or spiritual alchemy? Like the Yezidi? Or those of Norse origin and are pagan (although small numbers)? Or those in Asia who still practice the old religion honoring the gods?

Some here mention they only consider others a Zevist if they do the final Ritual. However, how does that fair with the rest of the world who still practice the old ways? They don't know what a final Ritual is.

All of those are Zevists. Just they do not have a complete collection of the knowledge, and maybe some of their traditions have been changed from how they originally were. They are not perfect, but they are still Zevists.

#13
scorpiorisingsaid:

One more thing...

Wouldn't we consider others outside of ToZ as Zevists who has a faith that is still "Satanic" or spiritual alchemy? Like the Yezidi? Or those of Norse origin and are pagan (although small numbers)? Or those in Asia who still practice the old religion honoring the gods?

Some here mention they only consider others a Zevist if they do the final Ritual. However, how does that fair with the rest of the world who still practice the old ways? They don't know what a final Ritual is.

A difference between a Blonde Yazidi in Syria and a drug addict living in his moms house in California is apparent to the naked eye. The Yazidi has a reason to take his spirituality seriously, the pothead does not lol. The Yazidi is in the care of Satan as he looks out for his own, the degenerate whom rests on his laurels is bound to the rules of nature and he's likely gonna be punished for his lack of awareness and action. If he calls himself a Zevist as this process occurs, he cannot blame it on Satan that he didn't use the knowledge and potential awareness that Satan gave him to overcome his troubles and prevent Nature smacking him in the face.

In regards to the people who still practice European pagan stuff the same rules apply as the outsider sects to some extent as a lot of those groups are "wiccanised" or xianised in some way.

#14
afl666said:

Hello,

I have seen that many members have answered your questions, I do not yet have the same knowledge and wisdom that they have; but I would like to share with you my experience that I had in a "Zevist" group before I met ToZ and who knows I can help you.

1) For you to make the covenant with Satan (that's what they call dedication), you must have the permission of the "master" and the "priestess"; for it is they who determine who can or cannot make the covenant

I read all this and go "Why don't other Zevists like free information"?

Guys ToZ is free, WTF who doesn't like free stuff. Pay-to-pray lol.

#15
Aldricksaid:

The saying when in Rome do as the Roman's will come back.

Some say America is the new Rome, should we do as the Americans?