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I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@... wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika
 
Oh, because  I love to meet sister souls! Strike up a chat and see of we are compatible --- or could learn to be?Hail Satan, dear!Erika
From: blackkat_411 <egret23@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:52 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members

  ..Hail Satan!! WHY?? what is the reason you need to see other satanic females online? Just a question, perhaps you care to answer??

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@... wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika

 
Huh? Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@... wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika
 
Just be patient I understand it is great to have friends to talk to who you can trust and that is the important thing here trust there are people on these boards a basket short of a picnic and some who are up to no good be carefull who you talk to and trust. It takes time to find members who you can trust and get to know, start slowly and it is not advisable at all to meet with members you have not spent good time getting to know.

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Erika VonHeim <erikavonheim@... wrote:

Oh, because  I love to meet sister souls! Strike up a chat and see of we are compatible --- or could learn to be?
Hail Satan, dear!
Erika


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From: blackkat_411 <egret23@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:52 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members


 
..Hail Satan!! WHY?? what is the reason you need to see other satanic females online? Just a question, perhaps you care to answer??

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika
 
Serpentfire is right. For instance, Astaroth is one of the four crowned princes of duat and is a powerful warrior. Marchosias is also warrior. And both of them are female. 
And we aren't about "marketing" here because Father Satan isn't about marketing. Father Satan is about truth. The reason people come here and BECOME satanists is because they agree with the truth of this philosophy, which is neither masculine nor feminine. Just truth. As for why you can't see whose a woman and whose a man online, who would want to give yahoo that info?
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Knowledge is power.
"I am ever present to help all who trust in me and call upon me in time of need."~Father Satan; The Al-jilwah
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi!* Let the name of Satan be exaulted!*
Hail Belial!* Heil Hitler!* Sieg Heil!* Ave Satanas!* Rege Satanas!* Heil, mein fuhrer!* Hail Satan!*
www.joyofsatan.org
www.exposingchristianity.com
From: Serpentfire666 <firebird894@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 7:14 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members

  Huh? Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@... wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika

 
Not understanding what you mean, exactly Erika.

There are many females here. Some of us are gay, most of us are not.....are we supposed to announce ourselves???

Is this a sexism issue for you? If so, your completely wrong in this. I've been on these boards 7 yrs and never felt that this group treated females unfairly....since the FOUNDER OF THE CHURCH IS FEMALE AS WELL.

Hailz

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@... wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika
 
Everything is marketing Raven, people just don't know what marketing is truly about. You're probably thinking of "advertising"(sneaky tricks), the two are similar but when you studying them, quite different.

Marketing is about providing the most value to your target market, and in return receiving the most value back.

Obviously if people applied this, it would be a good thing.

As I said, and in my judgement, I don't think most women are going to be all super-chummy about the warfare aspects of Satanism. I'm not saying get rid of it (LOL), but balance it out - ida and pingala.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Raven Lythrum <lilylavycrowley@... wrote:

Serpentfire is right. For instance, Astaroth is one of the four crowned princes of duat and is a powerful warrior. Marchosias is also warrior. And both of them are female. 

And we aren't about "marketing" here because Father Satan isn't about marketing. Father Satan is about truth. The reason people come here and BECOME satanists is because they agree with the truth of this philosophy, which is neither masculine nor feminine. Just truth.
 
As for why you can't see whose a woman and whose a man online, who would want to give yahoo that info?

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Knowledge is power.

"I am ever present to help all who trust in me and call upon me in time of need."~Father Satan; The Al-jilwah

In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi!* Let the name of Satan be exaulted!*
Hail Belial!* Heil Hitler!* Sieg Heil!* Ave Satanas!* Rege Satanas!* Heil, mein fuhrer!* Hail Satan!*

www.joyofsatan.org
www.exposingchristianity.com


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From: Serpentfire666 <firebird894@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 7:14 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members


 
Huh? Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika
 
Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@... wrote:

Huh? Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika
 
<td val[/IMG]Women are warriors of the mind, and therefor the spirit.
It is up to the individual how this concept, (of the 'spiritual' warrior) becomes part of them.
People will find the truth when they themselves are drawn to it. And whether they accept this specific concept right away is not vital.
Proselytism in the form of falsehood to win people over is not the answer.
Satan, in This age needs warriors. You can't gloss this over.

--- On Sun, 30/12/12, jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@... wrote:
From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
To: [email protected]
Received: Sunday, 30 December, 2012, 11:18 PM

Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@... wrote:

Huh?  Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In <a rel="nofollow" >[email protected], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- [/IMG][email protected], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
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Yes, I agree, warriors = good good.

And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting.

It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out.


Falsehood?

------

I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], H K <monumentalwheel@... wrote:

Women are warriors of the mind, and therefor the spirit.
It is up to the individual how this concept, (of the 'spiritual' warrior) becomes part of them.
People will find the truth when they themselves are drawn to it. And whether they accept this specific concept right away is not vital.
Proselytism in the form of falsehood to win people over is not the answer.
Satan, in This age needs warriors. You can't gloss this over.

--- On Sun, 30/12/12, jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@... wrote:

From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Received: Sunday, 30 December, 2012, 11:18 PM

Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote:

Huh?  Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika







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I don't see it as being masculine. After all, we're empowering the feminine side of our brains, lol. And we advise doing yoga, ask most men out there about yoga and they scoff at it.

I have always seen SS, and the image it currently has, as being completely balanced.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@... wrote:

Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote:

Huh? Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika
 
I have to disagree with your last paragraph, based entirely on my family. All women in my family (going back at least 4 generations that I know of) are very feminine, yet we are warriors. Always have been.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@... wrote:

Yes, I agree, warriors = good good.

And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting.

It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out.


Falsehood?

------

I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], H K <monumentalwheel@ wrote:

Women are warriors of the mind, and therefor the spirit.
It is up to the individual how this concept, (of the 'spiritual' warrior) becomes part of them.
People will find the truth when they themselves are drawn to it. And whether they accept this specific concept right away is not vital.
Proselytism in the form of falsehood to win people over is not the answer.
Satan, in This age needs warriors. You can't gloss this over.

--- On Sun, 30/12/12, jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Received: Sunday, 30 December, 2012, 11:18 PM

Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote:

Huh?  Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika







------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links
 
Maybe this group is not particularly interested in "the vast majority" - of women or otherwise - and rather, so far, a select minority. In all events, any lady member is more than welcome to I-Message me, any time.My Yahoo Messenger moniker is erikavonheim .
Saluting you,Erika von Heim
From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 11:43 PM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members

  Yes, I agree, warriors = good good.

And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting.

It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out.

Falsehood?

------

I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], H K <monumentalwheel@... wrote:

Women are warriors of the mind, and therefor the spirit.
It is up to the individual how this concept, (of the 'spiritual' warrior) becomes part of them.
People will find the truth when they themselves are drawn to it. And whether they accept this specific concept right away is not vital.
Proselytism in the form of falsehood to win people over is not the answer.
Satan, in This age needs warriors. You can't gloss this over.

--- On Sun, 30/12/12, jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@... wrote:

From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Received: Sunday, 30 December, 2012, 11:18 PM

Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote:

Huh?  Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika







------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

 
Hello again: as mentioned, my Yahoo Messenger ID is erikavonheimSaluting,Erika 
From: "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 3:02 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members

  I have to disagree with your last paragraph, based entirely on my family. All women in my family (going back at least 4 generations that I know of) are very feminine, yet we are warriors. Always have been.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@... wrote:

Yes, I agree, warriors = good good.

And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting.

It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out.


Falsehood?

------

I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], H K <monumentalwheel@ wrote:

Women are warriors of the mind, and therefor the spirit.
It is up to the individual how this concept, (of the 'spiritual' warrior) becomes part of them.
People will find the truth when they themselves are drawn to it. And whether they accept this specific concept right away is not vital.
Proselytism in the form of falsehood to win people over is not the answer.
Satan, in This age needs warriors. You can't gloss this over.

--- On Sun, 30/12/12, jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Received: Sunday, 30 December, 2012, 11:18 PM

Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote:

Huh?  Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika







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Yahoo! Groups Links

 
You've gotta be taking the piss. "Based entirely on my family"? You'll need greater numbers than that.

Certain traits run in families, you can even see it in the astrology.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@... wrote:

I have to disagree with your last paragraph, based entirely on my family. All women in my family (going back at least 4 generations that I know of) are very feminine, yet we are warriors. Always have been.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

Yes, I agree, warriors = good good.

And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting.

It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out.


Falsehood?

------

I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], H K <monumentalwheel@ wrote:

Women are warriors of the mind, and therefor the spirit.
It is up to the individual how this concept, (of the 'spiritual' warrior) becomes part of them.
People will find the truth when they themselves are drawn to it. And whether they accept this specific concept right away is not vital.
Proselytism in the form of falsehood to win people over is not the answer.
Satan, in This age needs warriors. You can't gloss this over.

--- On Sun, 30/12/12, jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Received: Sunday, 30 December, 2012, 11:18 PM

Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote:

Huh?  Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika







------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links
 
Hmmm. That's true. Feminine side of brain.

Notwithstanding, the reality of it, women love feminine stuff, they love to feel feminine. If Satanism can be marketed in such a way, more women would join imo.

I think if yoga was marketed properly:
Instead of this: "Yoga can get you in touch with yourself."
This: "Yoga can make you a powerful he-man."
More men would do it. Men want to feel masculine. Not all men of course, but they are the minority.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@... wrote:

I don't see it as being masculine. After all, we're empowering the feminine side of our brains, lol. And we advise doing yoga, ask most men out there about yoga and they scoff at it.

I have always seen SS, and the image it currently has, as being completely balanced.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote:

Huh? Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika
 
I just don't understand how you think SS is "marketed" as being masculine. But I'm not the type who looks at how things are "marketed", I take each thing as it is. When I found JoS I didn't think "does this seem feminine or masculine?" I didn't think about how it seemed to be presented, I just saw the truth. And that's how I think things should be. Take it as it is, no guise or pretenses or viewing how things seem to fit into society. It is what it is, if it suits you personally then fine if not then leave it.

Don't do something because it's masculine/feminine and you're a male/female, do something because you personally want to.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@... wrote:

Hmmm. That's true. Feminine side of brain.

Notwithstanding, the reality of it, women love feminine stuff, they love to feel feminine. If Satanism can be marketed in such a way, more women would join imo.

I think if yoga was marketed properly:
Instead of this: "Yoga can get you in touch with yourself."
This: "Yoga can make you a powerful he-man."
More men would do it. Men want to feel masculine. Not all men of course, but they are the minority.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

I don't see it as being masculine. After all, we're empowering the feminine side of our brains, lol. And we advise doing yoga, ask most men out there about yoga and they scoff at it.

I have always seen SS, and the image it currently has, as being completely balanced.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote:

Huh? Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika
 
If you would notice, ALL the women in Sparta were warriors. Also, our female gods are ALSO all warriors. They fight AS WELL as heal. Satanism is all about balance. And I agree with what Lydia said. As I said in my original post. It's about truth. You do something because YOU feel it's the truth. Not because of the way it's marketed. After all, Satanism is about free thought and is about the way that YOU think and YOU feel. Not the way you are told to feel. Telling you what you feel is a marketing tool the kikes use to program your mind.   |
  |
_|_
  |

Knowledge is power.
"I am ever present to help all who trust in me and call upon me in time of need."~Father Satan; The Al-jilwah
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi!* Let the name of Satan be exaulted!*
Hail Belial!* Heil Hitler!* Sieg Heil!* Ave Satanas!* Rege Satanas!* Heil, mein fuhrer!* Hail Satan!*
www.joyofsatan.org
www.exposingchristianity.com
From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:33 PM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members

  You've gotta be taking the piss. "Based entirely on my family"? You'll need greater numbers than that.

Certain traits run in families, you can even see it in the astrology.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@... wrote:

I have to disagree with your last paragraph, based entirely on my family. All women in my family (going back at least 4 generations that I know of) are very feminine, yet we are warriors. Always have been.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

Yes, I agree, warriors = good good.

And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting.

It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out.


Falsehood?

------

I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], H K <monumentalwheel@ wrote:

Women are warriors of the mind, and therefor the spirit.
It is up to the individual how this concept, (of the 'spiritual' warrior) becomes part of them.
People will find the truth when they themselves are drawn to it. And whether they accept this specific concept right away is not vital.
Proselytism in the form of falsehood to win people over is not the answer.
Satan, in This age needs warriors. You can't gloss this over.

--- On Sun, 30/12/12, jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Received: Sunday, 30 December, 2012, 11:18 PM

Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote:

Huh?  Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika







------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

 
No they where not even not all men in Sparta where. Most history just focus on the ruling caste of Spartan society. And in some their relation to the helot caste. The role of women in Sparta was mostly one of mothers and wives.
From: Raven Lythrum <lilylavycrowley@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 1:45:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
  If you would notice, ALL the women in Sparta were warriors. Also, our female gods are ALSO all warriors. They fight AS WELL as heal. Satanism is all about balance. And I agree with what Lydia said. As I said in my original post. It's about truth. You do something because YOU feel it's the truth. Not because of the way it's marketed. After all, Satanism is about free thought and is about the way that YOU think and YOU feel. Not the way you are told to feel. Telling you what you feel is a marketing tool the kikes use to program your mind.   |   | _|_   |Knowledge is power."I am ever present to help all who trust in me and call upon me in time of need."~Father Satan; The Al-jilwahIn Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi!* Let the name of Satan be exaulted!*
Hail Belial!* Heil Hitler!* Sieg Heil!* Ave Satanas!* Rege Satanas!* Heil, mein fuhrer!* Hail Satan!*www.joyofsatan.org www.exposingchristianity.com From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:33 PM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
  You've gotta be taking the piss. "Based entirely on my family"? You'll need greater numbers than that. Certain traits run in families, you can even see it in the astrology.
--- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@... wrote: I have to disagree with your last paragraph, based entirely on my family. All women in my family (going back at least 4 generations that I know of) are very feminine, yet we are warriors. Always have been. --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote: Yes, I agree, warriors = good good. And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting. It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out. Falsehood? ------ I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo. --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, H K <monumentalwheel@ wrote: Women are warriors of the mind, and therefor the spirit. It is up to the individual how this concept, (of the 'spiritual' warrior) becomes part of them. People will find the truth when they themselves are drawn to it. And whether they accept this specific concept right away is not vital. Proselytism in the form of falsehood to win people over is not the answer. Satan, in This age needs warriors. You can't gloss this over. --- On Sun, 30/12/12, jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@ wrote: From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@ Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members To: mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com Received: Sunday, 30 December, 2012, 11:18 PM Yes, this is my judgment of the matter. The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women. Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted. Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses. --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote: Huh?  Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE! Hail Satan --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote: I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo. Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs. Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image? Things related to children and what not. I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine. --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote: Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that? Erika ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
 
I had no idea. Me and my class team had to study the spartans in tenth grade history four years back for a project and our teacher told us they were all warriors, including the women. Just goes to show how much you can actually trust the public school system. So do you know of any society besides that of our gods, that has women who were warriors?   |
  |
_|_
  |

Knowledge is power.
"I am ever present to help all who trust in me and call upon me in time of need."~Father Satan; The Al-jilwah
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi!* Let the name of Satan be exaulted!*
Hail Belial!* Heil Hitler!* Sieg Heil!* Ave Satanas!* Rege Satanas!* Heil, mein fuhrer!* Hail Satan!*
www.joyofsatan.org
www.exposingchristianity.com
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members

  No they where not even not all men in Sparta where. Most history just focus on the ruling caste of Spartan society. And in some their relation to the helot caste. The role of women in Sparta was mostly one of mothers and wives.
From: Raven Lythrum <lilylavycrowley@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 1:45:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
  If you would notice, ALL the women in Sparta were warriors. Also, our female gods are ALSO all warriors. They fight AS WELL as heal. Satanism is all about balance. And I agree with what Lydia said. As I said in my original post. It's about truth. You do something because YOU feel it's the truth. Not because of the way it's marketed. After all, Satanism is about free thought and is about the way that YOU think and YOU feel. Not the way you are told to feel. Telling you what you feel is a marketing tool the kikes use to program your mind.   |   | _|_   |Knowledge is power."I am ever present to help all who trust in me and call upon me in time of need."~Father Satan; The Al-jilwahIn Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi!* Let the name of Satan be exaulted!*
Hail Belial!* Heil Hitler!* Sieg Heil!* Ave Satanas!* Rege Satanas!* Heil, mein fuhrer!* Hail Satan!*www.joyofsatan.org www.exposingchristianity.com From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:33 PM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
  You've gotta be taking the piss. "Based entirely on my family"? You'll need greater numbers than that. Certain traits run in families, you can even see it in the astrology.
--- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@... wrote: I have to disagree with your last paragraph, based entirely on my family. All women in my family (going back at least 4 generations that I know of) are very feminine, yet we are warriors. Always have been. --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote: Yes, I agree, warriors = good good. And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting. It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out. Falsehood? ------ I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo. --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, H K <monumentalwheel@ wrote: Women are warriors of the mind, and therefor the spirit. It is up to the individual how this concept, (of the 'spiritual' warrior) becomes part of them. People will find the truth when they themselves are drawn to it. And whether they accept this specific concept right away is not vital. Proselytism in the form of falsehood to win people over is not the answer. Satan, in This age needs warriors. You can't gloss this over. --- On Sun, 30/12/12, jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@ wrote: From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@ Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members To: mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com Received: Sunday, 30 December, 2012, 11:18 PM Yes, this is my judgment of the matter. The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women. Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted. Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses. --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote: Huh?  Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE! Hail Satan --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote: I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo. Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs. Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image? Things related to children and what not. I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine. --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote: Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that? Erika ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

 
The Celts did. I read this when researching the Morrigan, that there were women warriors on the battlefield too.Hail Satan!
From: Raven Lythrum <lilylavycrowley@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 2:13:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members

  I had no idea. Me and my class team had to study the spartans in tenth grade history four years back for a project and our teacher told us they were all warriors, including the women. Just goes to show how much you can actually trust the public school system. So do you know of any society besides that of our gods, that has women who were warriors?   |
  |
_|_
  |

Knowledge is power.
"I am ever present to help all who trust in me and call upon me in time of need."~Father Satan; The Al-jilwah
In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi!* Let the name of Satan be exaulted!*
Hail Belial!* Heil Hitler!* Sieg Heil!* Ave Satanas!* Rege Satanas!* Heil, mein fuhrer!* Hail Satan!*
www.joyofsatan.org
www.exposingchristianity.com
From: Don Danko <mageson6666@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members

  No they where not even not all men in Sparta where. Most history just focus on the ruling caste of Spartan society. And in some their relation to the helot caste. The role of women in Sparta was mostly one of mothers and wives.
From: Raven Lythrum <lilylavycrowley@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 1:45:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
  If you would notice, ALL the women in Sparta were warriors. Also, our female gods are ALSO all warriors. They fight AS WELL as heal. Satanism is all about balance. And I agree with what Lydia said. As I said in my original post. It's about truth. You do something because YOU feel it's the truth. Not because of the way it's marketed. After all, Satanism is about free thought and is about the way that YOU think and YOU feel. Not the way you are told to feel. Telling you what you feel is a marketing tool the kikes use to program your mind.   |   | _|_   |Knowledge is power."I am ever present to help all who trust in me and call upon me in time of need."~Father Satan; The Al-jilwahIn Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas Luciferi Excelsi!* Let the name of Satan be exaulted!*
Hail Belial!* Heil Hitler!* Sieg Heil!* Ave Satanas!* Rege Satanas!* Heil, mein fuhrer!* Hail Satan!*www.joyofsatan.org www.exposingchristianity.com From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:33 PM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
  You've gotta be taking the piss. "Based entirely on my family"? You'll need greater numbers than that. Certain traits run in families, you can even see it in the astrology.
--- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@... wrote: I have to disagree with your last paragraph, based entirely on my family. All women in my family (going back at least 4 generations that I know of) are very feminine, yet we are warriors. Always have been. --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote: Yes, I agree, warriors = good good. And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting. It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out. Falsehood? ------ I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo. --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, H K <monumentalwheel@ wrote: Women are warriors of the mind, and therefor the spirit. It is up to the individual how this concept, (of the 'spiritual' warrior) becomes part of them. People will find the truth when they themselves are drawn to it. And whether they accept this specific concept right away is not vital. Proselytism in the form of falsehood to win people over is not the answer. Satan, in This age needs warriors. You can't gloss this over. --- On Sun, 30/12/12, jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@ wrote: From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@ Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members To: mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com Received: Sunday, 30 December, 2012, 11:18 PM Yes, this is my judgment of the matter. The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women. Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted. Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses. --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "Serpentfire666" <firebird894@ wrote: Huh?  Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE! Hail Satan --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "jonathon_billing" <jonathon.billing@ wrote: I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo. Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs. Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image? Things related to children and what not. I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine. --- In mailto:JoS4adults%40yahoogroups.com, "erikavonheim" <erikavonheim@ wrote: Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that? Erika ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links



 
SS isn't really being marketed at all. Not intentionally. What I want to see is a proper implementation of marketing principles.

I've quite a strong interest in psychology, and mercury in aquarius - my mind is always analyzing, etc etc. That combined with perfectionism....

Well of course you wouldn't. This is about getting the most, to the most people. About providing the best experience. Like when you buy a new phone, it's a more enjoyable experience to go into a store that's congruent with your own value.

This value creation then flows on and out.


Look, realistically here's our two differing views in action form:
1. Leave SS/JOS as it is.
2. Use proven marketing(not advertising!) principles to improve the environment of SS/JOS.


Can you really say that doing number 2 is all that bad?


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lydia_666@..." wrote:

I just don't understand how you think SS is "marketed" as being masculine. But I'm not the type who looks at how things are "marketed", I take each thing as it is. When I found JoS I didn't think "does this seem feminine or masculine?" I didn't think about how it seemed to be presented, I just saw the truth. And that's how I think things should be. Take it as it is, no guise or pretenses or viewing how things seem to fit into society. It is what it is, if it suits you personally then fine if not then leave it.

Don't do something because it's masculine/feminine and you're a male/female, do something because you personally want to.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" wrote:

Hmmm. That's true. Feminine side of brain.

Notwithstanding, the reality of it, women love feminine stuff, they love to feel feminine. If Satanism can be marketed in such a way, more women would join imo.

I think if yoga was marketed properly:
Instead of this: "Yoga can get you in touch with yourself."
This: "Yoga can make you a powerful he-man."
More men would do it. Men want to feel masculine. Not all men of course, but they are the minority.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lydia_666@" wrote:

I don't see it as being masculine. After all, we're empowering the feminine side of our brains, lol. And we advise doing yoga, ask most men out there about yoga and they scoff at it.

I have always seen SS, and the image it currently has, as being completely balanced.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" wrote:

Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" wrote:

Huh? Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika
 
I think it's important that all Gentile women come to know of Satan, and how to become a Goddess.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Erika VonHeim wrote:

Maybe this group is not particularly interested in "the vast majority" - of women or otherwise - and rather, so far, a select minority. 
In all events, any lady member is more than welcome to I-Message me, any time.
My Yahoo Messenger moniker is erikavonheim .

Saluting you,
Erika von Heim


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From: jonathon_billing
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 11:43 PM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members


 
Yes, I agree, warriors = good good.

And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting.

It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out.

Falsehood?

------

I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], H K wrote:

Women are warriors of the mind, and therefor the spirit.
It is up to the individual how this concept, (of the 'spiritual' warrior) becomes part of them.
People will find the truth when they themselves are drawn to it. And whether they accept this specific concept right away is not vital.
Proselytism in the form of falsehood to win people over is not the answer.
Satan, in This age needs warriors. You can't gloss this over.

--- On Sun, 30/12/12, jonathon_billing wrote:

From: jonathon_billing
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Received: Sunday, 30 December, 2012, 11:18 PM

Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of SS presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.


Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.


Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Serpentfire666" wrote:

Huh?  Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!

Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "jonathon_billing" wrote:

I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.

Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.


Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.

I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "erikavonheim" wrote:

Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
Erika







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