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Newbie Advice?

Hailey Vallerand

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well, i'm fairly new to spiritual satanism, but so far i love it. Unfortunately though, i have no way of doing any type of rituals to talk to Father Satan himself, or any of the other demons for that matter. Being a teenager and living with Catholics and Pagans who would most likely try to give me an exorcism for following this religion, i was wondering if anyone had any advice for how i might b able to do rituals without using inscence or candles. I appeciate all and any comments/advice. Thanks!
~alexander~
 
No worries Alexander, you can always do your rituals in your astral temple. Create one and do the rituals there, it's not in the physical plane so you'll be able to access it when you're in a meditative state.

Even this way, the rituals are not that important as the power meditation, which is the main thing of our path. I'm sure you can pretend you're asleep or thinking so you can do power meditations, or tell them you simply do meditations for relaxing. If they do understand, you could also use another excuse and practice kundalini yoga as well, it's very powerful and important for your spiritual advancement.

But why you said "living with Catholics and Pagans"???Many Pagans have nothing against Spiritual Satanism, after all we're Pagans, Satanism is actually ancient Paganism and our Demons are well-known Pagan Gods. We're not based on christianity, but we predate it. Of course some NEO-Pagans follow christian teachings and don't accept the fact that we're Pagans too, but others are more open-minded.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hailey Vallerand <vampirechik96@... wrote:


well, i'm fairly new to spiritual satanism, but so far i love it. Unfortunately though, i have no way of doing any type of rituals to talk to Father Satan himself, or any of the other demons for that matter. Being a teenager and living with Catholics and Pagans who would most likely try to give me an exorcism for following this religion, i was wondering if anyone had any advice for how i might b able to do rituals without using inscence or candles. I appeciate all and any comments/advice. Thanks!
~alexander~
 
Thank you very much for the help. Unfortunately, my dad is Pagan, but he believes that Satanism is a very very negative religion. But I think because he went to Catholic school as a child, that it may have something to do with most of the things that he believes. He doesn't believe in Satan or demons for that matter, and though i'm sure that he'd be happy to know that i've found a religion, I don't think that he would do good with knowing that i'm delving into Spiritual Satanism. But thanks again for the help, I really appreciate it!
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:34 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Newbie Advice?

  No worries Alexander, you can always do your rituals in your astral temple. Create one and do the rituals there, it's not in the physical plane so you'll be able to access it when you're in a meditative state.

Even this way, the rituals are not that important as the power meditation, which is the main thing of our path. I'm sure you can pretend you're asleep or thinking so you can do power meditations, or tell them you simply do meditations for relaxing. If they do understand, you could also use another excuse and practice kundalini yoga as well, it's very powerful and important for your spiritual advancement.

But why you said "living with Catholics and Pagans"???Many Pagans have nothing against Spiritual Satanism, after all we're Pagans, Satanism is actually ancient Paganism and our Demons are well-known Pagan Gods. We're not based on christianity, but we predate it. Of course some NEO-Pagans follow christian teachings and don't accept the fact that we're Pagans too, but others are more open-minded.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hailey Vallerand <vampirechik96@... wrote:


well, i'm fairly new to spiritual satanism, but so far i love it. Unfortunately though, i have no way of doing any type of rituals to talk to Father Satan himself, or any of the other demons for that matter. Being a teenager and living with Catholics and Pagans who would most likely try to give me an exorcism for following this religion, i was wondering if anyone had any advice for how i might b able to do rituals without using inscence or candles. I appeciate all and any comments/advice. Thanks!
~alexander~

 
yeah um if you got no astral temple yet then i suggest you create one and soon.
you do not need candles and incense for many things here unless of course you are dedicating in which case you would need candles at least.
anyway moving on
an astral temple sounds like to me is something you really outta look into creating if you have not done so yet.  if you got one of those you can use whatever candles and/or incense you want.
i am curious though does anyone know here if incense burners are battery operated???
if so then that would help allot of us in so many ways. this is because not all incense are incense sticks of course.
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:34 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Newbie Advice?

  No worries Alexander, you can always do your rituals in your astral temple. Create one and do the rituals there, it's not in the physical plane so you'll be able to access it when you're in a meditative state.

Even this way, the rituals are not that important as the power meditation, which is the main thing of our path. I'm sure you can pretend you're asleep or thinking so you can do power meditations, or tell them you simply do meditations for relaxing. If they do understand, you could also use another excuse and practice kundalini yoga as well, it's very powerful and important for your spiritual advancement.

But why you said "living with Catholics and Pagans"???Many Pagans have nothing against Spiritual Satanism, after all we're Pagans, Satanism is actually ancient Paganism and our Demons are well-known Pagan Gods. We're not based on christianity, but we predate it. Of course some NEO-Pagans follow christian teachings and don't accept the fact that we're Pagans too, but others are more open-minded.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hailey Vallerand <vampirechik96@... wrote:


well, i'm fairly new to spiritual satanism, but so far i love it. Unfortunately though, i have no way of doing any type of rituals to talk to Father Satan himself, or any of the other demons for that matter. Being a teenager and living with Catholics and Pagans who would most likely try to give me an exorcism for following this religion, i was wondering if anyone had any advice for how i might b able to do rituals without using inscence or candles. I appeciate all and any comments/advice. Thanks!
~alexander~

 
Then just tell them you're Pagan. Spiritual Satanism is the original Paganism, so you're not lying.

And to answer your first questions, you don't need to use incense or candles, if it's going to be an issue. Are you sure they will have a problem with candles though? You could just say it's for meditation, as a stress-reliever.

Hail Father Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hailey Vallerand <vampirechik96@... wrote:

Thank you very much for the help. Unfortunately, my dad is Pagan, but he believes that Satanism is a very very negative religion. But I think because he went to Catholic school as a child, that it may have something to do with most of the things that he believes. He doesn't believe in Satan or demons for that matter, and though i'm sure that he'd be happy to know that i've found a religion, I don't think that he would do good with knowing that i'm delving into Spiritual Satanism. But thanks again for the help, I really appreciate it!


________________________________
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:34 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Newbie Advice?


 
No worries Alexander, you can always do your rituals in your astral temple. Create one and do the rituals there, it's not in the physical plane so you'll be able to access it when you're in a meditative state.

Even this way, the rituals are not that important as the power meditation, which is the main thing of our path. I'm sure you can pretend you're asleep or thinking so you can do power meditations, or tell them you simply do meditations for relaxing. If they do understand, you could also use another excuse and practice kundalini yoga as well, it's very powerful and important for your spiritual advancement.

But why you said "living with Catholics and Pagans"???Many Pagans have nothing against Spiritual Satanism, after all we're Pagans, Satanism is actually ancient Paganism and our Demons are well-known Pagan Gods. We're not based on christianity, but we predate it. Of course some NEO-Pagans follow christian teachings and don't accept the fact that we're Pagans too, but others are more open-minded.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Hailey Vallerand <vampirechik96@ wrote:


well, i'm fairly new to spiritual satanism, but so far i love it. Unfortunately though, i have no way of doing any type of rituals to talk to Father Satan himself, or any of the other demons for that matter. Being a teenager and living with Catholics and Pagans who would most likely try to give me an exorcism for following this religion, i was wondering if anyone had any advice for how i might b able to do rituals without using inscence or candles. I appeciate all and any comments/advice. Thanks!
~alexander~
 
<td val[/IMG]Sounds like he has been heavily indoctrinated himself.Might just want to keep your growth in SS to yourself right now.

Hail Enki
Brian 

--- On Sat, 4/14/12, Hailey Vallerand <vampirechik96@... wrote:
From: Hailey Vallerand <vampirechik96@...
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Newbie Advice?
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Date: Saturday, April 14, 2012, 4:47 PM

  Thank you very much for the help. Unfortunately, my dad is Pagan, but he believes that Satanism is a very very negative religion. But I think because he went to Catholic school as a child, that it may have something to do with most of the things that he believes. He doesn't believe in Satan or demons for that matter, and though i'm sure that he'd be happy to know that i've found a religion, I don't think that he would do good with knowing that i'm delving into Spiritual Satanism. But thanks again for the help, I really appreciate it!
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:34 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Newbie Advice?

  No worries Alexander, you can always do your rituals in your astral temple. Create one and do the rituals there, it's not in the physical plane so you'll be able to access it when you're in a meditative state.

Even this way, the rituals are not that important as the power meditation, which is the main thing of our path. I'm sure you can pretend you're asleep or thinking so you can do power meditations, or tell them you simply do meditations for relaxing. If they do understand, you could also use another excuse and practice kundalini yoga as well, it's very powerful and important for your spiritual advancement.

But why you said "living with Catholics and Pagans"???Many Pagans have nothing against Spiritual Satanism, after all we're Pagans, Satanism is actually ancient Paganism and our Demons are well-known Pagan Gods. We're not based on christianity, but we predate it. Of course some NEO-Pagans follow christian teachings and don't accept the fact that we're Pagans too, but others are more open-minded.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Hailey Vallerand <vampirechik96@... wrote:


well, i'm fairly new to spiritual satanism, but so far i love it. Unfortunately though, i have no way of doing any type of rituals to talk to Father Satan himself, or any of the other demons for that matter. Being a teenager and living with Catholics and Pagans who would most likely try to give me an exorcism for following this religion, i was wondering if anyone had any advice for how i might b able to do rituals without using inscence or candles. I appeciate all and any comments/advice. Thanks!
~alexander~
[/TD]
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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