orion.ancient
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First off, Ive been in yahoo groups before, but not in over a decade, so the new layout is a little hard to understand. Secondly, Im sure this question has already been asked, but like I said, I dont see an option to search for topics specifically within this group, so Ill just hope this winds up in the right place, or one of you all could enlighten me.
Ive been on the SS path since October of 2009. It has been one hell of a profound life changing journey. Im very well versed in everything JOS has to offer, and then some. Ive made it my #1 priority in life, in everything physical/mental/spiritual, to sift through the corruption that is so prevalent in this world, and teach myself only the truths, and nothing but the truths. Im heavily influenced by science, but only what it truth. ABSOLUTELY NO corruption.
Ive as a result purposely left myself with no outside contacts other than my wife. Not even my family do i rarely speak with or see. If Im not at work, then im studying, meditating, etc. Ive devoted everything I am to SS, its doctrines, and its teachers.
All that being said, I have not doubts, but questions left unanswered, that I wanted to see what everyone elses thoughts on it was.
Just like with the Bible, JOS doesnt cover every topic. As a person who is constantly looking for half truths or deceit, or misleading information, etc, Ive realized in the past few years, that JOS has left a few things out. Which has led me in turn to meditate deeply on the subject. And this is what ive concluded with.
Meditations/Rituals/Doctrines aside, Im still stuck on, after all these years, the
"creation of humanity" aspect, and the role Satan/Lucifer had in it.
From my own journey Ive came to known that any and all gods, are nothing more than ET's, which are nothing more than entities of some sort, be they humanoid, or conscious masses of energy, but with a soul.
That being said Ive came to the conclusion that,
1. Earth evolved naturally from the Hadean Period up until the past million years or so naturally. Earth came into existence like science teaches. The nephilim hadnt bothered with us yet, UNTIL bipedal humanoids began to evolve (monkeys, lucy, etc).
(now I know it says Satan allowed the creation of 4 substances (DNA), but the AL-Jiwah, and both JOS contradict this statement, but seem to support it at the same time.
2. At some point, the nephilim basically abducted one of these early bipedals, and through artificial insemination, created humans, but took out all the ET genes for anti-aging, etc.
At this point Ive read from the old now extinct LuciferianLiberationFront, that Satan was actually a different ET from the nephilim, and head of this "galactic federation", and had seen what the nephilim were doing to us, so he came and stepped in to try to save us, and you know the rest of the story.
Ive also read that Satan was/is a nephilim, who was in charge of our creation, and for some reason decided didnt want to take out the genes for anti-aging, power, etc, but was rebuked by the other nephilim, and thus the annology of god vs the devil, and Satan "fell from heaven", i.e., left the starship, and went rogue, trying to save humanity.
But that last option makes no sense to me, because are the nephilim not wholly essentially "evil"? Why would a nephilim suddenly have a change of heart?
The last story which I cant quite wrap my head around, is that Satan was neither nephilim, or the head of this "galactic federation", and that he was essentially a lone ET floating around through space experimenting with genetics, found earth untouched, and created us. But then shortly later the nephilim tried to intervene and had more influence with us, and began to corrupt our planet.
All 3 of these theories have evidence of being true, but I still do not see anywhere a shred of evidence stating one to be the truth, over the others.
Im looking for thoughts on this. opinions. I know theistic satanism, or SS, is highly personal, and we are left to interpret some things only through our own experiences and results. Satan has shown me that much.
But when the Al-Jiwah is stating Satan as the creator of humanity, but refers to him as like this higher power creator god, but yet JOS speaks of him as if he were once nephilim..., and on top of that through science which Satan heavily supports, and you can argue with some science, but not all of it, and science is logically/reasonably correct up until about the last 100 million years ago, which one am I to believe to be THE TRUTH? because all 3 are supported by SS doctrines, but all 3 have little parts where they dont connect, and contradict each other.
Im just looking for opinions here, maybe anything I might have overlooked. Ive learned to not take what anyone says 100% as the truth, without first doing my own HEAVY HEAVY research into the matter, and meditations, etc, checking to see that my results are the same and match up 1000 times over. Thats why as much as love JOS, somewhere between 1-3% of the site leaves me in confusion, and my own meditations seem to leaving me with no answers.
Ive been on the SS path since October of 2009. It has been one hell of a profound life changing journey. Im very well versed in everything JOS has to offer, and then some. Ive made it my #1 priority in life, in everything physical/mental/spiritual, to sift through the corruption that is so prevalent in this world, and teach myself only the truths, and nothing but the truths. Im heavily influenced by science, but only what it truth. ABSOLUTELY NO corruption.
Ive as a result purposely left myself with no outside contacts other than my wife. Not even my family do i rarely speak with or see. If Im not at work, then im studying, meditating, etc. Ive devoted everything I am to SS, its doctrines, and its teachers.
All that being said, I have not doubts, but questions left unanswered, that I wanted to see what everyone elses thoughts on it was.
Just like with the Bible, JOS doesnt cover every topic. As a person who is constantly looking for half truths or deceit, or misleading information, etc, Ive realized in the past few years, that JOS has left a few things out. Which has led me in turn to meditate deeply on the subject. And this is what ive concluded with.
Meditations/Rituals/Doctrines aside, Im still stuck on, after all these years, the
"creation of humanity" aspect, and the role Satan/Lucifer had in it.
From my own journey Ive came to known that any and all gods, are nothing more than ET's, which are nothing more than entities of some sort, be they humanoid, or conscious masses of energy, but with a soul.
That being said Ive came to the conclusion that,
1. Earth evolved naturally from the Hadean Period up until the past million years or so naturally. Earth came into existence like science teaches. The nephilim hadnt bothered with us yet, UNTIL bipedal humanoids began to evolve (monkeys, lucy, etc).
(now I know it says Satan allowed the creation of 4 substances (DNA), but the AL-Jiwah, and both JOS contradict this statement, but seem to support it at the same time.
2. At some point, the nephilim basically abducted one of these early bipedals, and through artificial insemination, created humans, but took out all the ET genes for anti-aging, etc.
At this point Ive read from the old now extinct LuciferianLiberationFront, that Satan was actually a different ET from the nephilim, and head of this "galactic federation", and had seen what the nephilim were doing to us, so he came and stepped in to try to save us, and you know the rest of the story.
Ive also read that Satan was/is a nephilim, who was in charge of our creation, and for some reason decided didnt want to take out the genes for anti-aging, power, etc, but was rebuked by the other nephilim, and thus the annology of god vs the devil, and Satan "fell from heaven", i.e., left the starship, and went rogue, trying to save humanity.
But that last option makes no sense to me, because are the nephilim not wholly essentially "evil"? Why would a nephilim suddenly have a change of heart?
The last story which I cant quite wrap my head around, is that Satan was neither nephilim, or the head of this "galactic federation", and that he was essentially a lone ET floating around through space experimenting with genetics, found earth untouched, and created us. But then shortly later the nephilim tried to intervene and had more influence with us, and began to corrupt our planet.
All 3 of these theories have evidence of being true, but I still do not see anywhere a shred of evidence stating one to be the truth, over the others.
Im looking for thoughts on this. opinions. I know theistic satanism, or SS, is highly personal, and we are left to interpret some things only through our own experiences and results. Satan has shown me that much.
But when the Al-Jiwah is stating Satan as the creator of humanity, but refers to him as like this higher power creator god, but yet JOS speaks of him as if he were once nephilim..., and on top of that through science which Satan heavily supports, and you can argue with some science, but not all of it, and science is logically/reasonably correct up until about the last 100 million years ago, which one am I to believe to be THE TRUTH? because all 3 are supported by SS doctrines, but all 3 have little parts where they dont connect, and contradict each other.
Im just looking for opinions here, maybe anything I might have overlooked. Ive learned to not take what anyone says 100% as the truth, without first doing my own HEAVY HEAVY research into the matter, and meditations, etc, checking to see that my results are the same and match up 1000 times over. Thats why as much as love JOS, somewhere between 1-3% of the site leaves me in confusion, and my own meditations seem to leaving me with no answers.
