need help going into trance.

[chels_act]

Hello, I'm quite new to satanism and I've just started the spiritual warfare program. However I'm having trouble going into a deep trance. I first relax my body, then try to induce a falling effect in my mind, and at first I feel my mind slowing down. But the deeper I go the harder it is to breathe.

Does anyone have trance methods that worked for them, that were not on the Job website?

 

[call_me_something_else]

Interesting. What makes it harder to breathe?

 

[magnum.arcanum]

Breath, Hold and Exhale for equal intervals.  The intervals can be any length of time.  Six is optimal.  Do what's on the program and don't vary from it in any way.  It took me almost 40 minutes to be able to relax enough to go into a trance at first.  Once you get it figured out, you can do it very fast. 

 

[zolaluckystar1]

Hi, just started that one too and I also am having my issues with deep trance. It said in the instructions to take as long as it takes and it took me an hour and a half to reach a deep trance (which I thought was ridiculously long). While this annoys me (I am impatient with myself) my issue is really the weird twitching in the joints of the legs, feels like synapses misfiring that cause my legs to twitch about and - interestingly and specifically - comes on strong when I am setting out to do this deep trance meditation. its disruptive to concentration.

In contrast, I have great success with the void meditation while doing hatha or kundalini yoga. It is supremely enjoyable and I really feel the energy rising then. I have been trying to form a ball with it each session and send it to Satan for his use. But anyhow, I suspect the misfiring causing the twitching limbs is bio-electricity trying to move through the chakras in my knees and ankles - I can feel it trying to stream up and down my legs - driving me nuts in the process...possibly they are partially blocked? I tried mentally examining the area when it was happening and it felt like something was attached and yanking, like a string. I tried again this AM and finally reached trance. Again, took at least an hour. Yup. frustrating. I just keep trying. Don't know that I have any specific questions, just sharing my frustrations. Am finding the deep trance challenging so if anyone has tips for the other asker or myself I would love to hear. Thanks in advance.

Hail Satan

 

[call_me_something_else]

@zoalaluckystar the twitching is just your muscles not being used to deep relaxation.

You'll adapt, with consistent practice.

 

[fake name]

Wait is this person doing yoga poses while meditating? I was lead to an exercise by the gods and after a single day my upper chakras are already BLAZING with energy but it IS hard to breath while doing the forward bend.
Sooooo worth it though. I am at the point where meditations that don't incorporate yoga aren't strong enough for me.
If anyone has a link to yoga meditations for each chakra show me. Thanks
HAIL SATAN!



On Thursday, July 2, 2015 4:14 PM, "no.state@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  Interesting. What makes it harder to breathe?

 

[zolaluckystar1]

Thank you!

 

[zolaluckystar1]

Hi CMSE, So its normal then? Good to know! I was wondering WTF is wrong with me? What is with this bloody f'ing twitching?!? I am doing the forty day bootcamp and feel that till I can do this DT - its so fucking basic I feel I ought to have no problem WTF - I am stuck at this beginning and cannot move on, my feeling is that rather than seven days spent on DT it could turn into a month...when I was doing dream yoga I reached a point where I could leave as the body slept, go out and about, come back in maintaining consciousness the while, yet I am having trouble with DT?!? I find this hard to understand. I guess because I am ten years out of practice and as you say, my muscles need to get used to it again. An idea I had: to try slipping into the astral maintaining lucidity and then doing the DT there.

Yes fake name, I am finding that the best time for me to meditate whatever it be, the void, empowering my aura, charging chakra's, forming a ball of the energy raised in the process and sending it to Satan for his use (I like the idea of sending the excess energy to him as a regular part of the daily practice), working on my pineal gland, etc...it all works for me a hundred times better doing the yoga stances at the same time. There is something about combining the physicality of that with the spirituality of the other that works so well in tandem....in class doing these visualizations/feeling/manipulating energies I have far less problems....I saw the exercise you tried and plan to try it soon though right now I am focusing on DT. That is not something one can do in a yoga class. The physical part is great but the love stuff a lot of the teachers spout at the end I blank out. Every time they say love I say in my head: Hate. When they say feel gratitude to God I think: Thank you Satan. When they vibrate Omm I vibrate Raum, stuff like that. Trying to adapt it to what I need.

I tried till five AM last night for DT and two more hours this AM. Finally I asked father Satan WTF do I do now? Yes, I have reached DT a couple times but it is not easy for me while I feel it ought to be and so I am pissed. I was given a suggestion when I asked WTF do I do now? for another way to approach this DT tonight. While I am furious about this stumbling block I won't quit, I'll try the suggested approach as what I am doing right now ain't working too well.

Thank you Satan

 

[call_me_something_else]

Yes, it's perfectly normal to see the body resisting initial efforts at dt. We're so conditioned to take action to achieve anything here on the material plane, it seems antithetical to try inaction as the solution.

Be patient with yourself. While relaxing, acknowledge the body's tendency to move and then, simply continue on relaxing further.

Believe it or not, one day, you'll be able to go into trance with your eyes wide open, in the middle of a noisy room. But, it takes some time to learn this.

Be patient with yourself.

 

[chels_act]

I feel my self falling, and I think my body reacts fearfully by holding my breath. Logically I know I'm not in danger, but it's getting my body to understand this that's the problem.

 

[call_me_something_else]

As long as you're dedicated, trust the Gods to keep you safe, like you would when you were a little kid, that grownups would keep you safe.

Also, developing your aura of protection helps here, too.

But, more than anything, keep trying.

When I first discovered meditation - even before I dedicated - going under gave me the feeling something was going to eat me. (LOL right?) It seemed something like a giant invisible sea monster. But after a short while, the fear went away.

Just know the Gods will protect you.

 

[michaelsloan988]

Try doing the raun 13 rounds first and then relax just read the information on trance meditation on joy of Satan wed site

 

[zolaluckystar1]

I will try. I have far more patience with others while with myself I am merciless! LOL.

 

[mreierson98]

I would recommend that you Focus on your breathing. Inhale through your nose and exhale through your mouth. Void meditation helps with this as well since you focus on your breathing through void meditation. Thoth says that "Life is in the breath".  Void meditation helps sharpen your senses and your focus. I would recommend using both techniques to progress with your spirituality. Now that you understand how to trance let me explain what it does. Trancing slows down your brainwave state. They start in alpha state and as your brainwaves slow down they drift into delta and theta states which are sleeping and deep sleep states for your mind and body. Trancing allows your body to drift into a delta or theta state while the brain is still conscience. When you dream you enter the astral realm where your dreams seem to become reality. This is the spiritual state we reach when we trance, and because we are conscience we can control our actions in that trance state. Our actions are much more powerful within a trance state allowing us to accomplish much more much easier than in a conscious state.