Met a le veyan

[orion199317]

And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm satanic" to everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a bad image



I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and half le vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?

 

[Blaise Parnell]

Laveyens believe Satan is a philosophy, that he is just a symbol for gluttony and indulgence. They disregard anything spiritual, labelling what we do as"Spiritual Pipe Dreams". They actively (though they deny it) seek to remove all forms of spirituality saying that it is all our imagination, yet they themselves participate in minor forms of it. They say they do the rituals because "We know we are lying to ourselves, its more of a method of venting emotion." for more information go to www.ChurchofSatan.com. They are atheists fixated on selfishness.
From: orion199317 <orion199317@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 24 September, 2010 12:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan

  And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm satanic" to everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a bad image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and half le vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?


 

 

[ToZ Forum Contributions]

The irony is La Vey acknowledges Demon's are real and to be respected in the "Satanic Bible."

From: orion199317 <orion199317@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, September 23, 2010 10:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan

  And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm satanic" to everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a bad image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and half le vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?

 

[RJ the Acolyte]

I think they give us a bad image!

--- In [email protected], Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@... wrote:

Laveyens believe Satan is a philosophy, that he is just a symbol for gluttony
and indulgence. They disregard anything spiritual, labelling what we do
as"Spiritual Pipe Dreams". They actively (though they deny it) seek to remove
all forms of spirituality saying that it is all our imagination, yet they
themselves participate in minor forms of it. They say they do the rituals
because "We know we are lying to ourselves, its more of a method of venting
emotion." for more information go to www.ChurchofSatan.com. They are atheists
fixated on selfishness.



________________________________
From: orion199317 <orion199317@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 24 September, 2010 12:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan


And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm satanic" to
everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a bad
image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and half le
vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?

 

[heirxofxsalazar]

In my opinion, they give Satanism a bad image, as it's more of a rebellious act against Christianity than it is a religion.
I consider them disrespectful in a way, performing rituals, calling themselves Satanists and they don't even believe in the Gods.. It's like stealing power they are not worthy of.
I agree with a few of their beliefs, but all in all, their system makes no sense to me and they come off looking like a gang of punks who like to 'talk the talk' but can't 'walk the walk'.. or so they say. Maybe they actually do believe in the Gods and are lying about it..

 

[Adrian Savala]

yea i met alot of half spiritual satanist and half laveyan but i dont get that. whats that about, i kind of think their twistin things up. ~ave satanas~

From: Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 1:02:14 AM
Subject: Re: Met a le veyan

  Laveyens believe Satan is a philosophy, that he is just a symbol for gluttony and indulgence. They disregard anything spiritual, labelling what we do as"Spiritual Pipe Dreams". They actively (though they deny it) seek to remove all forms of spirituality saying that it is all our imagination, yet they themselves participate in minor forms of it. They say they do the rituals because "We know we are lying to ourselves, its more of a method of venting emotion." for more information go to www.ChurchofSatan.com. They are atheists fixated on selfishness.
From: orion199317 <orion199317@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 24 September, 2010 12:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan

  And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm satanic" to everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a bad image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and half le vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?


 

 

[Sheila Barnhill]

Sounds like it's their loss. I can tell you for a fact that Father is real!

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@... wrote:

  Laveyens believe Satan is a philosophy, that he is just a symbol for gluttony and indulgence. They disregard anything spiritual, labelling what we do as"Spiritual Pipe Dreams". They actively (though they deny it) seek to remove all forms of spirituality saying that it is all our imagination, yet they themselves participate in minor forms of it. They say they do the rituals because "We know we are lying to ourselves, its more of a method of venting emotion." for more information go to www.ChurchofSatan.com. They are atheists fixated on selfishness.
From: orion199317 <orion199317@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 24 September, 2010 12:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan

  And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm satanic" to everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a bad image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and half le vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?


 

--
"Do what you want as long as it's paying off for you. But once it's become a liability, then something is wrong and you better find out what it is."

 

[donny grandstaff]

<td val[/IMG]IT"S LAVEY

--- On Thu, 9/23/10, orion199317 <orion199317@... wrote:

From: orion199317 <orion199317@...
Subject: Met a le veyan
To: [email protected]

  And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm satanic" to everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a bad image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and half le vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?

[/TD]

 

[Sheila Barnhill]

same here

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:20 AM, RJ the Acolyte <rj_the_acolyte@... wrote:

  I think they give us a bad image!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@... wrote:

Laveyens believe Satan is a philosophy, that he is just a symbol for gluttony
and indulgence. They disregard anything spiritual, labelling what we do
as"Spiritual Pipe Dreams". They actively (though they deny it) seek to remove
all forms of spirituality saying that it is all our imagination, yet they
themselves participate in minor forms of it. They say they do the rituals
because "We know we are lying to ourselves, its more of a method of venting
emotion." for more information go to www.ChurchofSatan.com. They are atheists
fixated on selfishness.



________________________________
From: orion199317 <orion199317@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Fri, 24 September, 2010 12:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan


And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm satanic" to
everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a bad
image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and half le
vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?

--
"Do what you want as long as it's paying off for you. But once it's become a liability, then something is wrong and you better find out what it is."

 

[Danial Allman]

They not only give us a bad image, but they break all of their religious teachings in doing what they do.  Hypocrisy and herd-conformity is suppose to be a big no to them, yet they practice it just as well as selfishness.   From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sheila Barnhill
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:55 PM
To: [email protected]
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@... wrote:

Laveyens believe Satan is a philosophy, that he is just a symbol for

gluttony

and indulgence. They disregard anything spiritual, labelling what we do
as"Spiritual Pipe Dreams". They actively (though they deny it)

seek to remove

all forms of spirituality saying that it is all our imagination, yet they
themselves participate in minor forms of it. They say they do the rituals
because "We know we are lying to ourselves, its more of a method of

venting

emotion." for more information go to <a rel="nofollow" >

href="http://www.ChurchofSatan.com" target="_blank"www.ChurchofSatan.com. They are atheists

fixated on selfishness.



________________________________

From: orion199317

<orion199317@...

To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Fri, 24 September, 2010 12:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan


And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm

satanic" to

everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true

satanism" a bad

image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows

Satan.

But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and

half le

vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?

--
"Do what you want as long as it's paying off for you. But once it's become a liability, then something is wrong and you better find out what it is."

 

[morticia]

they're so blind to the truth i actually feel sorry for them. they'd rather worship a flawed human "god" than a perfect one like father. i thank him ev day that he saw me fit enough to show the real truth to.

--- In [email protected], Sheila Barnhill <darkangelpublishing@... wrote:

same here

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:20 AM, RJ the Acolyte <[email protected]:



I think they give us a bad image!

--- In [email protected] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com,
Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@ wrote:

Laveyens believe Satan is a philosophy, that he is just a symbol for
gluttony
and indulgence. They disregard anything spiritual, labelling what we do
as"Spiritual Pipe Dreams". They actively (though they deny it) seek to
remove
all forms of spirituality saying that it is all our imagination, yet they

themselves participate in minor forms of it. They say they do the rituals

because "We know we are lying to ourselves, its more of a method of
venting
emotion." for more information go to www.ChurchofSatan.com. They are
atheists
fixated on selfishness.



________________________________
From: orion199317 <orion199317@

To: [email protected] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 24 September, 2010 12:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan


And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm
satanic" to
everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a
bad
image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows
Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and
half le
vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?







--
"Do what you want as long as it's paying off for you. But once it's become
a liability, then something is wrong and you better find out what it is."

 

[PamelaL]

here, here. I have a friend who was Laveyan, and all he did was smoke weed and sleep with girls. He told me all women were good for was pussy

--- In [email protected], "Danial Allman" <danialallman@... wrote:

They not only give us a bad image, but they break all of their religious teachings in doing what they do. Hypocrisy and herd-conformity is suppose to be a big no to them, yet they practice it just as well as selfishness.



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sheila Barnhill
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Re: Met a le veyan





same here

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:20 AM, RJ the Acolyte <rj_the_acolyte@... wrote:



I think they give us a bad image!


--- In [email protected] <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com , Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@ wrote:

Laveyens believe Satan is a philosophy, that he is just a symbol for gluttony
and indulgence. They disregard anything spiritual, labelling what we do
as"Spiritual Pipe Dreams". They actively (though they deny it) seek to remove
all forms of spirituality saying that it is all our imagination, yet they
themselves participate in minor forms of it. They say they do the rituals
because "We know we are lying to ourselves, its more of a method of venting
emotion." for more information go to www.ChurchofSatan.com. They are atheists
fixated on selfishness.



________________________________

From: orion199317 <orion199317@


To: [email protected] <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 24 September, 2010 12:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan


And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm satanic" to
everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a bad
image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and half le
vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?





--
"Do what you want as long as it's paying off for you. But once it's become a liability, then something is wrong and you better find out what it is."

 

[Natasha Banks]

Hey guys !  My name is Natasha & I joined the group about a month ago.  Sorry for the late "Hello".  I too have recently come in contact with a La Veyan .  Claimed he was a "High Priest" ?? Anyway, his attitude was a little snooty & superior.  Made fun of people who go to occult shops & get their candles "dressed w/ oils" he said it was stupid & outdated to do so .  Basically that the world is delusional & that they are the only ones who "get it".

From: morticia <morticiasixx@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 3:22:07 AM
Subject: Re: Met a le veyan

  they're so blind to the truth i actually feel sorry for them. they'd rather worship a flawed human "god" than a perfect one like father. i thank him ev day that he saw me fit enough to show the real truth to.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Sheila Barnhill <darkangelpublishing@... wrote:

same here

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:20 AM, RJ the Acolyte <[email protected]:



I think they give us a bad image!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com,
Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@ wrote:

Laveyens believe Satan is a philosophy, that he is just a symbol for
gluttony
and indulgence. They disregard anything spiritual, labelling what we do
as"Spiritual Pipe Dreams". They actively (though they deny it) seek to
remove
all forms of spirituality saying that it is all our imagination, yet they

themselves participate in minor forms of it. They say they do the rituals

because "We know we are lying to ourselves, its more of a method of
venting
emotion." for more information go to www.ChurchofSatan.com. They are
atheists
fixated on selfishness.



________________________________
From: orion199317 <orion199317@

To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] <JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 24 September, 2010 12:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan


And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm
satanic" to
everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a
bad
image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows
Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and
half le
vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?







--
"Do what you want as long as it's paying off for you. But once it's become
a liability, then something is wrong and you better find out what it is."

 

[Loki Grondwitch]

<td val[/IMG] Nobody owns Satanism! Whether it be Laveyens, spiritual, modern Satanists or even devil worshippers! For me, everyone is free to believe what he or she wishes. Satanism is simply an antinomy of straight right-hand path religions. Whether one believes in the physical existence of Demons or one just goes with the La Vey’s tradition; other types of Satanism should not perturb us for they are not the enemy. The enemy is clearly the right-hand path monotheistic cults and that is where we should place concentration! But there again, who am I to suggest what people should do or not do! After all, as I said each and every Satanist should be allowed to decide from him/herself where he/she stands, so ignore this post!

--- En date de : Dim 3.10.10, RJ the Acolyte <rj_the_acolyte@... a écrit :

De: RJ the Acolyte <rj_the_acolyte@...
Objet: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Met a le veyan
À: [email protected]

  I think they give us a bad image!

--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@... wrote:

Laveyens believe Satan is a philosophy, that he is just a symbol for gluttony
and indulgence. They disregard anything spiritual, labelling what we do
as"Spiritual Pipe Dreams". They actively (though they deny it) seek to remove
all forms of spirituality saying that it is all our imagination, yet they
themselves participate in minor forms of it. They say they do the rituals
because "We know we are lying to ourselves, its more of a method of venting
emotion." for more information go to www.ChurchofSatan.com. They are atheists
fixated on selfishness.



________________________________
From: orion199317 <orion199317@...
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Sent: Fri, 24 September, 2010 12:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan


And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm satanic" to
everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a bad
image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and half le
vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?

[/TD]

 

[MIKE MUSCHAMP]

ha ha!,so well put mate,spiritual anarchism,does not matter which way you follow the path,as long as you are on it,and for me only just having settled in my new home,years of lies seem to be finally giving way to something that allows me to grow.
 

To: [email protected]
From: loki_grondwitch18@...
Subject: Re : Re: Met a le veyan

 

<td vAl[/IMG] Nobody owns Satanism! Whether it be Laveyens, spiritual, modern Satanists or even devil worshippers! For me, everyone is free to believe what he or she wishes. Satanism is simply an antinomy of straight right-hand path religions. Whether one believes in the physical existence of Demons or one just goes with the La Vey’s tradition; other types of Satanism should not perturb us for they are not the enemy. The enemy is clearly the right-hand path monotheistic cults and that is where we should place concentration! But there again, who am I to suggest what people should do or not do! After all, as I said each and every Satanist should be allowed to decide from him/herself where he/she stands, so ignore this post!

--- En date de : Dim 3.10.10, RJ the Acolyte <rj_the_acolyte@... a écrit :

De: RJ the Acolyte <rj_the_acolyte@...
Objet: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Met a le veyan
À: [email protected]

  I think they give us a bad image!

--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@... wrote:

Laveyens believe Satan is a philosophy, that he is just a symbol for gluttony
and indulgence. They disregard anything spiritual, labelling what we do
as"Spiritual Pipe Dreams". They actively (though they deny it) seek to remove
all forms of spirituality saying that it is all our imagination, yet they
themselves participate in minor forms of it. They say they do the rituals
because "We know we are lying to ourselves, its more of a method of venting
emotion." for more information go to www.ChurchofSatan.com. They are atheists
fixated on selfishness.



________________________________
From: orion199317 <orion199317@...
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Sent: Fri, 24 September, 2010 12:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan


And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm satanic" to
everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a bad
image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and half le
vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?

[/TD]

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[Loki Grondwitch]

<td val[/IMG]Good for you! Stay on the path!
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--- En date de : Sam 9.10.10, MIKE MUSCHAMP <mikemuschamp@... a écrit :

De: MIKE MUSCHAMP <mikemuschamp@...
Objet: RE: Re : [JoyofSatan666] Re: Met a le veyan
À: [email protected]

  ha ha!,so well put mate,spiritual anarchism,does not matter which way you follow the path,as long as you are on it,and for me only just having settled in my new home,years of lies seem to be finally giving way to something that allows me to grow.
 

To: [email protected]
From: loki_grondwitch18@...
Subject: Re : Re: Met a le veyan

 

<td vAl[/IMG] Nobody owns Satanism! Whether it be Laveyens, spiritual, modern Satanists or even devil worshippers! For me, everyone is free to believe what he or she wishes. Satanism is simply an antinomy of straight right-hand path religions. Whether one believes in the physical existence of Demons or one just goes with the La Vey’s tradition; other types of Satanism should not perturb us for they are not the enemy. The enemy is clearly the right-hand path monotheistic cults and that is where we should place concentration! But there again, who am I to suggest what people should do or not do! After all, as I said each and every Satanist should be allowed to decide from him/herself where he/she stands, so ignore this post!

--- En date de : Dim 3.10.10, RJ the Acolyte <rj_the_acolyte@... a écrit :

De: RJ the Acolyte <rj_the_acolyte@...
Objet: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Met a le veyan
À: [email protected]

  I think they give us a bad image!

--- In [[email protected]][email protected][/email], Blaise Parnell <blaiseparnell@... wrote:

Laveyens believe Satan is a philosophy, that he is just a symbol for gluttony
and indulgence. They disregard anything spiritual, labelling what we do
as"Spiritual Pipe Dreams". They actively (though they deny it) seek to remove
all forms of spirituality saying that it is all our imagination, yet they
themselves participate in minor forms of it. They say they do the rituals
because "We know we are lying to ourselves, its more of a method of venting
emotion." for more information go to www.ChurchofSatan.com. They are atheists
fixated on selfishness.



________________________________
From: orion199317 <orion199317@...
To: [[email protected]][email protected][/email]
Sent: Fri, 24 September, 2010 12:11:16 PM
Subject: Met a le veyan


And I didn't like him
apparently we are the reason that when he goes around saying " i'm satanic" to
everyone, that he gets made fun of.
And that since we believe demons are real that we give " true satanism" a bad
image

I try to be respectful of everyones beliefs, especialy anyone who follows Satan.
But are all le veyans this way?
I've met a few other satanists that say they are half spiritualist and half le
vey
and they were actualy pretty cool

but is the " full" le veyan religion so hateful towards us?
And what exactly do they believe?

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