Making clothes at home - For Meteor

[Lunar Dance 666]

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I didn't derail this thread. Lunardance was the one who first tried to attack me, trying to paint me as a villain. I had to respond by presenting my point of view that everything I was saying was correct .And after I presented the facts everyone got pissed due to experiencing cognitive dissonance of being unable to accept reality (facts and statistics.)

Did you even read your own reply?

I have not once gotten emotional. I've written everything from a purely rational, pragmatic perspective. I haven't once demeaned, insulted or personally attracted anyone. If anything the opposite is the case.

Everyone here has personally attacked me, wishing me I'll will in my personal life and wishing me romantic failure and called me all sorts of names. This is regardless of me already saying that I'm not personally talking about anyone and that I'm talking in generalities.

All you've shown is the inability to listen and agree with reality and immature behavior of personal attacks and insults and victim blaming.

Again, why do you think? Are you willing to make the lifelong decision of having children and caring for them with the first complete random stranger that you meet in the street? Because that's practically what you've been saying.

And you seem like the kind of guy that'd just leave after she got pregnant having the women doing all the work of raising the kid with an absent father. You're being irresponsible.

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And this doesn't have anything to do with Christianity . The entirety of Ancient history agrees with my view with hundreds of thousands of Philosophers and Statesmen making the exact same points that I have made. Just read the work of Plato and Socrates on the Topic of Women in Society. Read the views of Adolf Hitler and other prominent Nazis on the same. You are historically unaware of civilization . Female Independence and Promiscuity is a predictor of Civilizational collapse. Not just in Christian times. Every single Pagan civilization follows the same route where Female Independence and Promiscuity immediately follows civilizational collapse. Ancient Philosophers works would be considered borderline misogynistic and incendiary by you if you read them.

You're historically unaware of Jews changing philosphers and Hitlers words.

Not a single one of my points is inaccurate or wrong and your debating methods prove my point that women are more emotional than men and are on a balance of probabilities incapable of critical thinking.

Tabby, you called it, you're right.

All you've proven is that everything I've said is correct and your refusal to accept that reality. Your Contrarian revolt against pertinent facts and evidence is another reason why women can't be leaders and politicians. There were no Nazi party leaders who were involved in policy as women because Adolf Hitler knew that women can't accept logic and reason, and they only listen to emotion and peer pressure from the culture.
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There were no female leaders when Hitler was around due to Christianity. It would have caused even more revolts and lack of support if they were immediately praised to be on equal level with men. If you're that oblivious to not even think of this..
However, I bet that they were given the same chance regardless, just that no one felt the need to take on that role.

"and they only listen to emotion and peer pressure from the culture." Gee thanks Jack you've known nothing about me and all you do is throw shit around about 'how women suck' 'women shouldnt have any rights' 'women can't be leaders' 'women are irrational'.

Explain to me, if I was irrational, how could I come up with the thought that Xianity was the problem there were no female leaders back then?

Women inherently desire Sexist men who feel that they have to protect women from themselves, take care of them and lead them in a relationship.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/why-women-including-feminists-are-still-attracted-to-benevolently-sexist-men-101067

Google is Jewed. Psychology is Jewed. Your sources are Jewed. If they're not Jewed then they're having the wrong views anyway.

Also ,I don't take responsibility for anything that I've said makes you feel any type of way. According to my Free Speech rights I can make any kind of incendiary and inflammatory speech that I like that doesn't involve specifics.

If you were truly in the US as you claim, you'd have known people would have shot you in the face for your views on women. Putting them down like this.
Clearly you're not from the states.

Regardless of how you feel about these women ,the fact of reality is that they exist in the majority.

(Perspective: He's saying most women are submissive.) Because thats what Xianity preaches. To be submissive. That we're sinners. That we're made from Adams rib and thus lesser than a man.

I never argue with women in relationships because I know women can't be argued with. The only way to change her mind is to change her emotions and then get her to agree using compliance ladders with what your saying.

This is called manipulation.

I've laid all the facts and logic which aren't up for debate across the table and I implore everyone reading to come to a conclusion from the lens of critical thinking. Emotion is reserved for actions you take in your personal lives while dealing with another person. Ideological positions must always be based on reality, not your personal view of the world. That is my final message on this topic ,on this thread. Peace out.

In my work I've heard people say that if there were issues they'd talk it out.

You're not even open for debate and listening to someone elses point of view. Instead you think you have it all correct and you should be praised for it.

You say you throw your arguments rationally but it has been proven otherwise many times.

Also as a reminder, to discern truth from lies is the left hand path, is intuition, is the female mind. The same thing you've been bashing over and over. Do I need to say more?

If you truly had been working on yourself, ridding yourself of hang ups and stuff, you'd have never been saying this nonsense. Instead you've just been looking for validation of your own views. Now that you know this is not the place and you've been met with resistance, what are you going to do? Sit on your arse and do nothing but whine about women all over again?
Or are you going to genuinely think it all over?

 

[Aquarius]

steak merinated in red wine with green onions and herbs

put that with baked potato

Wanna marry me? I'll promise I'll be the breadwinner

Smooth haha

I guess there’s some truth to what they say, the quickest way to a man’s heart is through his stomach :lol:

That also works for feral kittens

 

[NinRick]

Wanna marry me? I'll promise I'll be the breadwinner

Smooth haha

I guess there’s some truth to what they say, the quickest way to a man’s heart is through his stomach :lol:

That also works for feral kittens

*Said Aquarius while taming ShadowCat*

Da-dum-tss.

 

[Shadowcat]

Smooth haha

I guess there’s some truth to what they say, the quickest way to a man’s heart is through his stomach :lol:

That also works for feral kittens

*Said Aquarius while taming ShadowCat*

Da-dum-tss.

nothing tames this cat. :lol:

 

[Shadowcat]

Wanna marry me? I'll promise I'll be the breadwinner

Smooth haha

I guess there’s some truth to what they say, the quickest way to a man’s heart is through his stomach :lol:

That also works for feral kittens

Give me the fluffballs! i will hug them and kiss them and squeeze them!

At my previous job there were feral cats and kittens that we fed. there was a pack of mangy stray dogs that came along and killed the 4 kittens..for fun. they didnt even eat them they killed just to kill. i was so upset. one of our guys wanted to give one of them a home too. I remembered the time then when 2 pits tore up one of my cats. i woke up to screaming and barking. my ar 15 was under the bed. people were coming out with bats and shit thinking it was a child. my brother jumped out the window and kicked them in the face and they ran off. we had to put the cat down...sigh.

when that happend with the feral kittens i was so ticked. i actyally wanted to kill the dogs out of revenge. they killed them just because for fuck sake...and i love cats and kittens. ive never been partial to dogs and this is why. funnily enough shortly after that happened it turned out that i had to leave from there to start my apprenticeship. looks like not only cats have 9 lives so the mangy mutts got lucky.

 

[tabby]

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I always thought you were a Chad, but then you would not resort to this kind of tactics like this.
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When Jack loses his chad status:

https://youtu.be/u3-1DJOw2c4


For more comedic relief from this whole shit show...
This is Jack in a nut shell under this thread, but replace "that's my money!" with "that's my stats!".

https://youtu.be/z5YoRBiQOtg

 

[Aquarius]

Smooth haha

I guess there’s some truth to what they say, the quickest way to a man’s heart is through his stomach :lol:

That also works for feral kittens

*Said Aquarius while taming ShadowCat*

Da-dum-tss.

:lol:

 

[tabby]

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Thank you for breaking it down like that, the order the events have happened.

I was wondering about narcissism (in relation to Jack) before fyi ...

I am not looking for fights, and when I tried to talk to Shadow about it in the first place, I was careful in expressing myself. If he takes it as an issue, its his problem.

Anyway, I hope we can leave this all behind soon, and I also want to say, good job in trying to get this topic back to what its supposed to be about

No worries.

Well some humour at least is being brought into the fold of this thread, so that's good. Maybe things will get back on track now a bit better.

Thank you, I tried.

 

[tabby]

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Ohh i see! I guess you learn something new everyday. i never knew about that with men and sewing in the past. Ofcouse, this is a very handy skill to have for anyone.

I grew up with similar family values, and my mother was always there for us as well. she and my father both taught us important things from a very early age which im grateful for. Dad however had a hard time being there emotionally but in other ways he was always there.

as for the rest of whats going on here i dont really have anything else to say, Other than that yes, it went off topic in a way it shouldn't have. It is what it is.

and I can see that Lunar has a feud with the guy - I don’t blame her. Many things that Jack has said just in the time I’ve been here have made me do double-takes and feel uncomfortable.

i am well aware that this counts for many people including some dudes here on the forum.

Fascinating, isn't it? Man, I'm getting inspired just to keep researching as much as possible about sewing. There's just so much we don't know about just one industry and skill. I love it.

My father wasn't great with emotions either. I've never seen him cry personally, except for the time when he ate a really really spicy dish but I think that was just because his eyes were sweating from the heat of the food :lol: .

After everything that's happened with this thread, I'm not surprised. I saw some guys trying to reason with him not that long ago on the same topic of women again, but clearly nothing's changed.

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haha I’ve never heard someone use the word “fatassery” before :lol:

WHAT?! Dude! Oh man, you’re making me hungry. Ok proposal, one day after all this crazy shit - cook out, I’ll make the desserts and you make the main meal - what do ya say?

jrvan mentioned getting together for Oktoberfest lol.

Aww man yall are making me hungry now! lmao I would love that haha. Heres to the day the enemy is gone where we can all drink and celebrate to standing on their ashes! Sooonnnn. :twisted:

Be prepared though for itisfood! >

Cheers to a bright future and good food! haha
:lol:

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ohh i see. must have read that one wrong :?

All good.

 

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/07/10/why-progressive-women-want-to-date-men-who-act-conservative/amp/

“It’s a mismatch between what progressive women say they want and what they actually respond to,” Miller told me. “Women’s instinctive mate preferences have evolved for hundreds of thousands of years for guys who are competent, strong, good providers, good protectors and happy with a sexual division of labor,” he added. Women want “decisive men who are also compassionate and thoughtful.”

A 2018 study from Iowa State University backs this up, reporting that progressive women prefer men who demonstrate more traditional dating behaviors. The women found these men to be “more attractive” because they signal a willingness “to invest by being protective, committed, and by providing resources.”

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Kari’s next boyfriend was a conservative who works in finance. “Without fail, he would pick the place, set the time, and then ask if his plan worked for me,” she said. “It felt great to know he was taking care of it all.

“I appreciate a man who opens the door for me and picks up the check. This makes me feel safe, like I can count on him for other things,” Kari said, adding, “I’m grateful when a man steps up and acts like a man; it makes me feel more feminine.”

While Kari and her boyfriend broke up (for reasons outside of political views), she remains a feminist who will only date conservative men, although she draws the line at “far-right conspiracy theorists.” While she met her most recent ex on a plane, she’s now using dating apps to find her next love and said she’s more likely to swipe right on profiles of men who say they prefer more traditional dating behaviors. “It’s a good indicator that there’s a shared mindset,” Kari said.

Kari’s preference for conservative men comes as no surprise to professor Miller. “This is a time-tested set of behaviors, strategies and cultural norms that have lasted for centuries because they help find and keep good mates,” he said. “And everybody knows this. Women in their hearts know this. And men don’t take them at their word.”

People really need to stop throwing all of this valuable and truthful information away and calling it junk just because they hate the messenger. If it was HC or someone else of high respect saying this everyone would be in agreement about this. I understand he’s like a robot spitting information at you but throwing a hissy fit about it won’t change anything. It’s pretty obvious he’s not going to change. People like him and with his approach are needed in this as much is anyone else. If he annoys you so much disengage and ignore. Then he will be stuck talking to the wall. I know how it goes.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

What you wrote now was immature.
Besides, I didn't intented to attack you, only commented about my feelings towards some of yours post. I don't know, if you're feeling attacked by me or others here, but you need to understand, it's not only me who is thinking this way. Lots of people have criticized you here, and rightly so. They even tried to make you aware of what you are doing right now. They presented you their point of view, etc. but you seem to be blind or simply ingoring it. Maybe you think, that your ''truth'' is right, but it's not true. If you're making others people feel bad, maybe you should consider your behaviour and...I don't agree with a lot of things you said before. Like I said, sometimes you are making a good point and I agree with you, but sometimes you are writing weirds things.
And why are you talking about hating you all the time?
Yes, I disliked you before. It's truth, I don't intend to hide this.
Now I don't have this feeling anymore. I am not even sure, why your post had an effect on me. After reading from you today, I feel nothing, but pity. I still wish you the best, but you need to learn more about being a human.

And by the way...they seem to care about my feelings. You should learn more empathy from them. Good luck.

Speaking of pity,

I hate being a women.

Honestly, sometimes I think that being a women is the worst thing that happened to me. What is so good at being women?

Sed lyf

I always thought you were a Chad, but then you would not resort to this kind of tactics like this.

You know that has hurt her very deeply and that there are lasting scars because of that shit?

And you dare bringing this up, just to make you feel „stronger“ and „superior“. You purposely brought that up to hurt her, to make her feel like trash, just so you are above her in this situation.

Wow, fuck you Jack, fuck you.
Weak, weak, weak.

He is acting like an insensitive piece of shit. This is bullying and I fucking hate bullying.

Its like he has zero empathy for what other people feel. He gives zero shits if he hurt you or not. Although this poor girl has apologized multiple times, it is Jack who needs to apologize.

This is not his first time either. Jack, you really need to lay off the "Red pilled" men community or whatever the fuck they call themselves. You are like a fucking feminist but for men. Both feminists and you are on the opposite side but both are extremely unbalanced and have fucked up views for either genders.

Also, you claiming you desire to own women and they will be submissive to you 100% of the time or whatever jewish bullshit you spew is NOT OKAY!

You don't have a healthy mindset about this at all. You also seem to have an ego blown out of proportion and thinking you are some kind of ultra giga chad alpha male and that all women are your slaves, property and should bow down to you is not healthy.

You seem to consume a lot of shit an example for this is recommending High Priest Hooded Cobra to learn marketing from kike Jordan Belfort. This alone is laughable and shows where you learn from and what type of person you consume media and learn from. Another example is the dating stuff you read and watch it has almost brainwashed you or something.

I know where you are coming from because I used to follow those jewish so called "pick up artists" when I was young but I am 100% deprogrammed from the filth they were promoting. It seems you are still affected by them even if you claim you've outgrown them and stopped following those.

It's getting tiring to see the shit you post about women and no, not all men believe what you do. Only damaged narcissists do. A healthy, balanced and spiritual person won't share your views.

Hail Satan!!

 

[tabby]

A short motivational video. The over all message can apply to anything be it meditation, RTR's, magick for yourself, or personal skills and goals, etc.

"How to Make Time for Yourself and Your Sewing || How to Find Time For Hobbies":
https://youtu.be/v3RcNnPv-z8

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

A short motivational video. The over all message can apply to anything be it meditation, RTR's, magick for yourself, or personal skills and goals, etc.

"How to Make Time for Yourself and Your Sewing || How to Find Time For Hobbies":
https://youtu.be/v3RcNnPv-z8

Heh good to see that video again. Actually its good advice that I could use rn. ty

Oh also the bedsheet thing, it was in one of Rachel Maksy's videos. She wants to do like one dress or one project in a week and it ends up being glued together and stuff. Its actually quite entertaining haha.
She's not so much into historical sewing but more like vintage and cosplay.

 

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

I am ignoring your very rude and unnecessary first paragraph.

Incels and femcels are never going to date each other anyway. They just blame the opposite sex for the fact they can't find a "perfect" partner or two for themselves, not realising it's their own twisted personality that chases everyone away. You're listening to a minority that doesn't understand a thing about what the majority of men or women are naturally like, and project their own problems onto others to make it sound like they're a majority.

I agree but incels/femcels are a bit different. I’ll include this.

Inspin

A portmanteau of involuntary spinster. It refers to a woman who doesn’t have the necessary qualities to get a man to voluntarily commit to her.

It's argued that inspins and incels are two sides of the same sad coin: An incel is a man who can’t generate enough female attraction to get sex and an inspin is a woman who can’t generate enough male attraction to get commitment.

It's unfortunate to say it but Bella has become an inspin: she goes on dating apps looking for a boyfriend but guys simply use her for sex since she's got nothing else to offer.

All relationship problems are invented and completely irrelevant to Spiritual Satanists as they can easily be circumvented once you reach a deeper level of understanding.

You can be as enlightened as you want but there is still that animalistic brain and instincts that tell us what to do.

There are so many members who are incredibly stimulating to talk to, who give valuable insights, help me learn how to sew, or ask questions that inspire me to think more deeply about many interesting topics. That's the kind of place this really is.

I try to contribute positively in this way but sometimes it doesn’t always work out.

I only resent him for derailing the thread tabby took the time to make for me and others who might be interested in sewing.

I agree. Instead of having threads always be filled with irrelevant things and arguments it should be moved to a dedicated debate/gladiator thread.

And for the shit he said to Przebiśnieg.

I thought the same as him about this person coming here with a poor twisted me attitude, she did seem very pathetic. It’s hard to tell sometimes if a person is being genuine or doing it for manipulative purposes.

Have fun with all that "valuable and truthful information". I don't see what value you're talking about, but that's not my problem. It's utterly disastrous if you consider it relationship advice,

Understanding human nature is very valuable. I also don’t know why you think this is relationship advice. It’s just an observation on how the different genders interact.

Jack just doesn't like women period as is obvious from the way he has acted here. He blames rape victims, he hates female independence of any kind, he doesn't want women to have a will or mind of their own, and worst of all is that he blames women for the state of society more than he blames jews. He's a misogynist in the most literal nonjewish book definition of the word.

That’s his own problem. I can’t look inside his mind and see what he actually believes so I’m not here to talk about his on views and interpretations of these biological facts. .

Some women want a submissive male.

I think we are talking about strictly physical attraction and characteristics. Yes a woman may want a submissive man as a provider but the same probably can’t be said sexually.

He also cares more about being right than he cares about what the actual Truth is. I really think more than anything else he just wants to be right.

Ain’t that the truth. No one wants to be wrong about anything which is the main cause of big ego. Ego is important but needs to be kept in check.

 

[tabby]

That also works for feral kittens

*Said Aquarius while taming ShadowCat*

Da-dum-tss.

nothing tames this cat. :lol:

:lol: haha

 

[tabby]

A short motivational video. The over all message can apply to anything be it meditation, RTR's, magick for yourself, or personal skills and goals, etc.

"How to Make Time for Yourself and Your Sewing || How to Find Time For Hobbies":
https://youtu.be/v3RcNnPv-z8

Heh good to see that video again. Actually its good advice that I could use rn. ty

Oh also the bedsheet thing, it was in one of Rachel Maksy's videos. She wants to do like one dress or one project in a week and it ends up being glued together and stuff. Its actually quite entertaining haha.
She's not so much into historical sewing but more like vintage and cosplay.

No problem. I needed the advice myself and just had a moment where I thought that it would be good to share it since it applies to more than just sewing.

YES!! I recently started watching her channel not long after making the OP. At the time, I figured may as well branch out and find more sewing folk to learn from, and then stumbled on her channel.

I’ve started to appreciate the vintage style more and have been picking up a few extra tips for myself thanks to her videos. I’ve been in a creative spirit for a number of days now just designing clothes for future projects for myself and jrvan (sewing machine is on the way!). Can’t say I didn’t suddenly develop an obsession for poofy-floofy sleeves because of Maksy :lol:

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

A short motivational video. The over all message can apply to anything be it meditation, RTR's, magick for yourself, or personal skills and goals, etc.

"How to Make Time for Yourself and Your Sewing || How to Find Time For Hobbies":
https://youtu.be/v3RcNnPv-z8

Heh good to see that video again. Actually its good advice that I could use rn. ty

Oh also the bedsheet thing, it was in one of Rachel Maksy's videos. She wants to do like one dress or one project in a week and it ends up being glued together and stuff. Its actually quite entertaining haha.
She's not so much into historical sewing but more like vintage and cosplay.

No problem. I needed the advice myself and just had a moment where I thought that it would be good to share it since it applies to more than just sewing.

YES!! I recently started watching her channel not long after making the OP. At the time, I figured may as well branch out and find more sewing folk to learn from, and then stumbled on her channel.

I’ve started to appreciate the vintage style more and have been picking up a few extra tips for myself thanks to her videos. I’ve been in a creative spirit for a number of days now just designing clothes for future projects for myself and jrvan (sewing machine is on the way!). Can’t say I didn’t suddenly develop an obsession for poofy-floofy sleeves because of Maksy :lol:

aaah nice! those sleeves are indeed more fun than those boring straight ones haha.

 

[Larissa666]

Such a dumpster fire of a thread…dear Gods and Goddesses…


Sad.

 

[Reyra]

I decided to stay away from this site. I don't know for how long, or I'll just act alone. It might sound funny to you, but it stressed me a lot, as if I couldn't even sleep. ^^"
Stressing won't fix my health, so it'll be better this way. It's not anyone's fault, that I made this decision, I'm just sensitive like I said before, that's all. And IT could be my fault to cause trouble here, which I am sorry.
Jack, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It was not my intention. I would feel bad if you did.

Thanks for chatting with me, you were kind to me and I aprecciate it. Good luck to everyone!

Prez in life you will end up saying things to people and hurting people no matter what. Even if you don't want to hurt people and seek for a peaceful way out.. how much more abuse are you willing to take?

You've said nothing wrong here. Your own opinion is not wrong, in that we all have motivations and reasons for saying these things. Its that when our views change and our eyes are opened that we change what we say.
But our own opinion is our truth.

I hope you'll at least visit the forums occasionally. If you want to email, here's my adress: [email protected]

Yes, I am aware of that. I don't want to hurt people, but that's not always possible.
Maybe I won't be very active here, but I will still visit this forum from time to time. There is a lot of helpful information here that I want to use, since I want to develop more and to read announcements.
Thank you for everything.

 

[Reyra]

I decided to stay away from this site. I don't know for how long, or I'll just act alone. It might sound funny to you, but it stressed me a lot, as if I couldn't even sleep. ^^"
Stressing won't fix my health, so it'll be better this way. It's not anyone's fault, that I made this decision, I'm just sensitive like I said before, that's all. And IT could be my fault to cause trouble here, which I am sorry.
Jack, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It was not my intention. I would feel bad if you did.

Thanks for chatting with me, you were kind to me and I aprecciate it. Good luck to everyone!

Please do not stray from or be driven away from forums because of feeling hurt. Thuis is a very good resource for you and can help you grow. Please know the people you don't vibe well with can be put on an ignore list so that you will not longer see their posts. Don't allow yourself to be driven away.

I didn't take this short break to whine about this situation, and I never intended to leave Satan. I would never leave him. I was doing more RTR, meditating, yoga etc. so it come for the better for me. This what happened here was a good lesson for me.
Thank you for all your advice.

 

[Reyra]

You're right, Jack has certainly made many good contributions, and I shouldn't have diminished that. It sometimes seems to me like he potentially does more harm than good in certain places, but I can't erase his accomplishments and I don't want to take away from that. I suppose I got a little fed up here with some of the nonsense and misunderstandings, and reacted too harshly. That's my bad.

I don't think he is a bad person either. This comment which he mades towards me, it could be my fault too. Maybe I provoked him, or he helt attacked by my words, but it wasn't my intention. It's looks like he is making fun of my feelings, but I don't believe he did that without proper reason. What I intented to say is he should realize, that sometimes his words about women can be misinterpreted and make other women feel worse. I won't say he is mysoginist, I don't know this and I won't say things, which I am not sure, but sometimes I get the feelings that he is hostile towards them and it's hard to take it otherwise. I only wanted him to try understand that there is a reason others see it that way. I don't hate him. I want to look at this from another perspective and I don't have ill intention towards him too, but his actions can push people away from him and he can therefore be left alone. Loneliness is not fun, everyone deserves love. That's what I meant, when I said I felt pity for him. After all, he is one of us and we should help each other, not put ourselve down. It would only be nice, if he tried to understand at least a little what other women want to convey to him.
Anyway, thanks tabby and jrvan for standing up for me, Lunar and others womens. Maybe he will consider, why he is disliked here by womens, maybe not. It's up to him, but everything has a reason. I don't intend to comment on this thread about him anymore. I wanted to clarify some things, but that's sewing topic. So from now I will comment only about it.

No, he's in the wrong. He went way too far, and he's a monster for it. Making fun of your post and your experiences is one of the cruelest things I've seen from him, and I'm absolutely disgusted by him. He's not a man at all. You are a rape survivor, and he had no right to attack that. I will never condone a man bullying his family like this. It's unacceptable.

You don't need to leave over someone like Jack. He's not worth it. He thinks he needs research studies to tell everyone that healthy humans prefer healthy humans even though that's just common sense. He's a fool.

Well, I want to move on, but thank you for protecting me to the end, when I was too weak to do it myself and run away like a coward. If someday I could repay you for it, I would gladly do it.

 

[Reyra]

I decided to stay away from this site. I don't know for how long, or I'll just act alone. It might sound funny to you, but it stressed me a lot, as if I couldn't even sleep. ^^"
Stressing won't fix my health, so it'll be better this way. It's not anyone's fault, that I made this decision, I'm just sensitive like I said before, that's all. And IT could be my fault to cause trouble here, which I am sorry.
Jack, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It was not my intention. I would feel bad if you did.

Thanks for chatting with me, you were kind to me and I aprecciate it. Good luck to everyone!

Don’t say sorry to Jack.
Say something like „Fuck you Jack“
He was a Dick not you, nothing what happened was your fault at all. Life doesn’t always goes very smooth, it is not your fault. Nothing is your fault.

Good luck on path, friend.

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Fuck you Jack.
First you tell someone how to suicide using chemicals now this crap.
And yes, I never forget what you write, as I respected you. Emphasis on past tense.
This whole crap pisses me off.

In fact, it was kind of my fault. I went off-topic and started talking to another person about him, so I'm not really surprised that he reacted to it.
Thank you, I wish you the best.

 

[Reyra]

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Exactly, I understand you! The joy on other people face, when you making something nice to them, priceless. For example, I like to bake for my brother and sister-in-law sometimes. They really enjoying this, so me as well. Recently, I sewed his favorite cartoon character for him for Christmas. His face was everything. But I like to doing this small things for him. He helped me a lot and is always protective towards me, the best brother I could imagine to have.
This is so cute, you maded this child happy.

I believe, like every sane women.

So practice and patience. I hope I can manage, I am used to using hand sewing. This would be something totally new for me, but I like to try new things. Besides it would be faster this way. I will search for some tutorials, thank you.
I think I will start with her with making stitch embroidery and then we could do some plushies. This is what she would like to do it anyway from what I had observe. After all she always comes to me, when I am sewing mascots.When she will come back from vacation, I will ask her to make sure. Thank you all of yours advice!
Haha yeah, I remember my first bunny that I sew. Now I think he looks hillarious and insane, but back then I was really proud of this. This motivated me to practice more and more. That's why I want to start with sewing clothes.

Nice, what sort of things do you like to bake? I love making apple and raisin turnovers. My mother use to make jam roly-poly's with us as kids, except we used pastry instead of the pudding/cake stuff and had it with vanilla ice cream.

Sounds like you have a wonderful relationship with your brother

haha that reminds me of a plushie I made for a school project (hand sewn), it was a little octopus with a top hat :lol: . I can't remember if you mentioned this already but how long have you been hand sewing for?

No worries, I wish you and your sister the best of luck!

Thank you for giving me advice. I thought a lot about it and started looking at it from a different angle. I still feel embarrassed to write now after all this, but I also want to develop further and get stronger and running away won't solve it.
Yummy! You made me want to bake something now.
I bake things that I am sure others will eat. Usually it's a brownie, since it easy to make and everyone always eat it. Cheesecake, shortbread cookies, muffins, currant tart etc. I don't know how it's named in English, but recently I made "Fiona" cake. This is a cake with a biscuit, two layers and raspberry jelly. A lot of work, but it was worth it.

True, we do. He is one of the most important people in my life for me.
Cute! She definitely looked great, I am sure of it. I also wanted to sew an octopus once. I do not remember exactly. Maybe three or two years. Nobody ever taught me sewing. I became interested in it myself and started to learn on my own. Once in school, we had one sewing class and I didn't get any of it. My mother did not teach me sewing, when I was child, either. Only when she noticed that I was starting to learn, she made small corrections to me. She even wants to teach me to embroider now. Now I am doing well and smoothly, but when I remember my beginnings, I feel like laughing. I wish I had been taught this before. And you? I don't remember if you mentioned it. Did you learn from a child or did you learn by yourself like me?

 

[tabby]

A short motivational video. The over all message can apply to anything be it meditation, RTR's, magick for yourself, or personal skills and goals, etc.

"How to Make Time for Yourself and Your Sewing || How to Find Time For Hobbies":
https://youtu.be/v3RcNnPv-z8

I watched this video after doing a bit of sewing earlier (just repairing some old clothes, unfortunately there are delays in the delivery of the fabric I wanted). I noticed while I was doing it just how relaxing it is; there is something therapeutic about it. She mentioned that in the video as well. It's just so intuitive, yet requires focus, which means it helps it take my mind off things. It's really nice.

If just repairing something is this much fun, then I look forward to having fabric to work with so I can make something from scratch. I'm glad I thought of giving sewing a try; I didn't realise there was so much more to it than just making clothes.

That’s something I love about sewing. The whole world around me just falls away, and all that’s left is just me and the thread of my needle. I’m not sure if it’s the same with a machine but when I’m hand sewing I find it’s a great time to state some daily affirmations, because I’m already in a meditative state. (I forget if I mentioned that already or not haha).

I’m happy I could help ignite that spark further with this thread, Meteor. That’s wonderful

 

[tabby]

Exactly, I understand you! The joy on other people face, when you making something nice to them, priceless. For example, I like to bake for my brother and sister-in-law sometimes. They really enjoying this, so me as well. Recently, I sewed his favorite cartoon character for him for Christmas. His face was everything. But I like to doing this small things for him. He helped me a lot and is always protective towards me, the best brother I could imagine to have.
This is so cute, you maded this child happy.

I believe, like every sane women.

So practice and patience. I hope I can manage, I am used to using hand sewing. This would be something totally new for me, but I like to try new things. Besides it would be faster this way. I will search for some tutorials, thank you.
I think I will start with her with making stitch embroidery and then we could do some plushies. This is what she would like to do it anyway from what I had observe. After all she always comes to me, when I am sewing mascots.When she will come back from vacation, I will ask her to make sure. Thank you all of yours advice!
Haha yeah, I remember my first bunny that I sew. Now I think he looks hillarious and insane, but back then I was really proud of this. This motivated me to practice more and more. That's why I want to start with sewing clothes.

Nice, what sort of things do you like to bake? I love making apple and raisin turnovers. My mother use to make jam roly-poly's with us as kids, except we used pastry instead of the pudding/cake stuff and had it with vanilla ice cream.

Sounds like you have a wonderful relationship with your brother

haha that reminds me of a plushie I made for a school project (hand sewn), it was a little octopus with a top hat :lol: . I can't remember if you mentioned this already but how long have you been hand sewing for?

No worries, I wish you and your sister the best of luck!

Thank you for giving me advice. I thought a lot about it and started looking at it from a different angle. I still feel embarrassed to write now after all this, but I also want to develop further and get stronger and running away won't solve it.
Yummy! You made me want to bake something now.
I bake things that I am sure others will eat. Usually it's a brownie, since it easy to make and everyone always eat it. Cheesecake, shortbread cookies, muffins, currant tart etc. I don't know how it's named in English, but recently I made "Fiona" cake. This is a cake with a biscuit, two layers and raspberry jelly. A lot of work, but it was worth it.

True, we do. He is one of the most important people in my life for me.
Cute! She definitely looked great, I am sure of it. I also wanted to sew an octopus once. I do not remember exactly. Maybe three or two years. Nobody ever taught me sewing. I became interested in it myself and started to learn on my own. Once in school, we had one sewing class and I didn't get any of it. My mother did not teach me sewing, when I was child, either. Only when she noticed that I was starting to learn, she made small corrections to me. She even wants to teach me to embroider now. Now I am doing well and smoothly, but when I remember my beginnings, I feel like laughing. I wish I had been taught this before. And you? I don't remember if you mentioned it. Did you learn from a child or did you learn by yourself like me?

No worries. Keep your head up, walk onward, and it’ll be alright.

Man, you named a lot of bakery foods that I love! I’ve not heard of “Fiona” cake before. Whenever I hear that name I just think Shrek haha.

Haha we all start somewhere.
Yeah I was just a kid. A lot of women in my family are seamstresses in their own time. I started with just fabric glue and spare material before my mother and my grandnan taught me to use an actual needle and thread :lol:

I managed to find the original video tutorial that I used to make my octopus plushie!

https://youtu.be/0VwlYbKR40s

 

[tabby]

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aaah nice! those sleeves are indeed more fun than those boring straight ones haha.

ikr? I feel like they would feel good to wear while running in a field or something.

 

[Reyra]

Nice, what sort of things do you like to bake? I love making apple and raisin turnovers. My mother use to make jam roly-poly's with us as kids, except we used pastry instead of the pudding/cake stuff and had it with vanilla ice cream.

Sounds like you have a wonderful relationship with your brother

haha that reminds me of a plushie I made for a school project (hand sewn), it was a little octopus with a top hat :lol: . I can't remember if you mentioned this already but how long have you been hand sewing for?

No worries, I wish you and your sister the best of luck!

Thank you for giving me advice. I thought a lot about it and started looking at it from a different angle. I still feel embarrassed to write now after all this, but I also want to develop further and get stronger and running away won't solve it.
Yummy! You made me want to bake something now.
I bake things that I am sure others will eat. Usually it's a brownie, since it easy to make and everyone always eat it. Cheesecake, shortbread cookies, muffins, currant tart etc. I don't know how it's named in English, but recently I made "Fiona" cake. This is a cake with a biscuit, two layers and raspberry jelly. A lot of work, but it was worth it.

True, we do. He is one of the most important people in my life for me.
Cute! She definitely looked great, I am sure of it. I also wanted to sew an octopus once. I do not remember exactly. Maybe three or two years. Nobody ever taught me sewing. I became interested in it myself and started to learn on my own. Once in school, we had one sewing class and I didn't get any of it. My mother did not teach me sewing, when I was child, either. Only when she noticed that I was starting to learn, she made small corrections to me. She even wants to teach me to embroider now. Now I am doing well and smoothly, but when I remember my beginnings, I feel like laughing. I wish I had been taught this before. And you? I don't remember if you mentioned it. Did you learn from a child or did you learn by yourself like me?

No worries. Keep your head up, walk onward, and it’ll be alright.

Man, you named a lot of bakery foods that I love! I’ve not heard of “Fiona” cake before. Whenever I hear that name I just think Shrek haha.

Haha we all start somewhere.
Yeah I was just a kid. A lot of women in my family are seamstresses in their own time. I started with just fabric glue and spare material before my mother and my grandnan taught me to use an actual needle and thread :lol:

I managed to find the original video tutorial that I used to make my octopus plushie!

https://youtu.be/0VwlYbKR40s

Thank you, both of you, tabby and jvran. I appreciate it.

Haha, you know what...you are not wrong. There actually is a cake version of Shrek! And it looks like this:

And here is Fiona:

They are similar to each other, but have a few differences. Shrek has a gooseberry or kiwi flavor (depending on what you choose) and Fiona has a raspberry flavor.

So you started, when you were little. No wonder you have so much knowledge in this field. I wish my mother have teached me too, but maybe I didn't show too much interest in it before.
Thank you for this tutorial! I am definitely going to sew this octupus with moustache and hat. He looks pretty cool. :lol:

And by the way...I finally bought myself a hoop and another embroidery tools. Now I just need to find a nice pattern and start embroidering. I'd like to embroider flowers on it for sure. Your post made me want to go back to sewing and trying new things. Sewing has always calmed me down, so I'm glad you decided to create such a thread!

 

[Jack]

I decided to stay away from this site. I don't know for how long, or I'll just act alone. It might sound funny to you, but it stressed me a lot, as if I couldn't even sleep. ^^"
Stressing won't fix my health, so it'll be better this way. It's not anyone's fault, that I made this decision, I'm just sensitive like I said before, that's all. And IT could be my fault to cause trouble here, which I am sorry.
Jack, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It was not my intention. I would feel bad if you did.

Thanks for chatting with me, you were kind to me and I aprecciate it. Good luck to everyone!

Don’t say sorry to Jack.
Say something like „Fuck you Jack“
He was a Dick not you, nothing what happened was your fault at all. Life doesn’t always goes very smooth, it is not your fault. Nothing is your fault.

Good luck on path, friend.

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Fuck you Jack.
First you tell someone how to suicide using chemicals now this crap.
And yes, I never forget what you write, as I respected you. Emphasis on past tense.
This whole crap pisses me off.

In fact, it was kind of my fault. I went off-topic and started talking to another person about him, so I'm not really surprised that he reacted to it.
Thank you, I wish you the best.

I didn't know that you were claiming to be a Rape victim when I made that sarcastic comment. I actually hadn't read your post. I just saw that you wrote you hated being a woman so I tried to troll you on that.

If you've really been wronged than you should do Revenge Workings.

 

[tabby]

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No worries. Keep your head up, walk onward, and it’ll be alright.

Man, you named a lot of bakery foods that I love! I’ve not heard of “Fiona” cake before. Whenever I hear that name I just think Shrek haha.

Haha we all start somewhere.
Yeah I was just a kid. A lot of women in my family are seamstresses in their own time. I started with just fabric glue and spare material before my mother and my grandnan taught me to use an actual needle and thread :lol:

I managed to find the original video tutorial that I used to make my octopus plushie!

https://youtu.be/0VwlYbKR40s

Thank you, both of you, tabby and jvran. I appreciate it.

Haha, you know what...you are not wrong. There actually is a cake version of Shrek! And it looks like this:

And here is Fiona:

They are similar to each other, but have a few differences. Shrek has a gooseberry or kiwi flavor (depending on what you choose) and Fiona has a raspberry flavor.

So you started, when you were little. No wonder you have so much knowledge in this field. I wish my mother have teached me too, but maybe I didn't show too much interest in it before.
Thank you for this tutorial! I am definitely going to sew this octupus with moustache and hat. He looks pretty cool. :lol:

And by the way...I finally bought myself a hoop and another embroidery tools. Now I just need to find a nice pattern and start embroidering. I'd like to embroider flowers on it for sure. Your post made me want to go back to sewing and trying new things. Sewing has always calmed me down, so I'm glad you decided to create such a thread!

Aw the pics didn’t come through right. Oh well, but that is funny there’s a Shrek version :lol:

Never too late to learn. I had a lot of fun when I made my octopus plush, the only part I had trouble with was attaching the feet things but eventually I figured it out haha.

Oh nice! Embroidered flowers are so pretty. I’m a total novice with embroidery currently but if I could sit down and make floral patterns with it I totally would.

You’re welcome. I’m really happy it’s been helpful for you and others. I guess I should give some credit to Meteor for asking me about sewing advice. If not for her I probably would never have made a thread like this. Something like this wouldn’t have crossed my mind to put out here on my own.

 

[Sunny]

Maybe it's off-topic, which I am sorry, but nobody makes me feel worse as a woman in this forum than him, I swear. I try to avoid him here, since he makes me feel bad and there is a lot of helpful information here too, but it is hard to do. I feel like he is really questioning my worth and my worth is something I have had a problem with for a very long time. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but his comments can be discouraged to be here. (It doesn't mean, that I will leave this forum just because he annoys me, but I am thinking about new womens wanting to join here.)


As for the post, excellent job. I have never tried to sew clothes (well, except for my old porcelain doll), only mascots for friends, my little sister and brother, but it would be nice to try something new. I don't have sewing machine, always using hand sewing. Maybe I should afford it, cause it would be faster this way. My sister wants to learn sewing too, so thanks for the tips.

Not everyone here is like him so don't let it get under your skin. Women have one very special power that men don't possess and will never be able to possess, and it's the ability to carry another life within themselves, a whole other soul, and birth it into this world. But that applies to gender specific. As a human, you choose what your value is as a person, and how you regard yourself. You decide your worth. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel lesser just because of someone else's poor views and opinions.

Here's something jrvan found for me when I was struggling on a similar subject:

"On Women and Goddesses"
https://archive.is/GhGPz

And thank you, all the best!

The majority of men think this way ,they're just afraid to say it due to the fear of being labeled misogynistic. This view is especially prevalent among Right Wing men who are either Pagans or otherwise. Especially if they've studied National Socialism, they have the same aversion to Feminist ideals as I do. All of them (who will inherit the earth) have the idea of wives with traditional values. 90% of them do. It's also the prevalent belief on this forum. If we were to conduct a poll, no man cares about a womans finances or anything related to being independent or liberated to the point where women aren't dating men for being Economically Unattractive. The only thing a man cares about is that a woman cares for his children. Finances and a job are separate icings on the cake.

A man who is a CEO will gladly marry a woman who is a schoolteacher while on a balance of probabilities, a Woman who is a CEO will not even look at a broke mans way.

All of this disparity is created to artificially tinkle with the womans value approval circuitry to make it harder for them to reproduce.

Men dedicate their lives to a higher purpose. Their lives are lives of sacrifice for their families.

Liberating women and breaking down the Patriarchy was a tactic specifically used by Jews to tank the white birth rate. The Jewish Sociologist, Theodore Adorno explained this in the Authoritarian Personality. He devised that if women were liberated, they would destroy the families and as a result they could replace the below replacement level populations by Foreigners.

This wouldn't be an issue if you were living in Japan ,but this is an issue of your living in the US or Europe.

Patriarchy and matriarchy are just as much imbalances as feminism. The only solution to this problem of society and family is balance, justice, freedom and respect between men and women.

You sound like a male chauvinist in a similar way to a feminist. You said that men sacrifice more for the family and also have bigger goals for themselves and society.

I recently saw a feminist on television who said the exact same thing but from the other side of the imbalance. She said that only women sacrifice for the family and that men only serve for fertilisation and are useless. This is clearly an ideal of worker bees for the enemy's hive.

Neither men nor women are useless, they are not equal in everything but they are equal in most things.

Women also sacrifice a lot for the family and they also have bigger goals for themselves and for society because women are not just biological wombs or slaves of men.

You are underestimating the potential and capabilities of women. And worst of all, you are depriving them of human rights.

Just because women are not very gifted in physical strength, that does not make them pets or life forms inferior to humans. The answers to this are found in the genetic material of men and women.

The jews may have stolen and discovered something but they do not have the greatest and brightest understanding, let alone their ancestors the greys and their agenda.

Women want their rights back, which are essentially human rights, because men have taken them away from them.

There can be no justice without power. Even if there were men who would not abuse and repress women, if women were inferior and helpless, it would not only be humiliating but injustice would be inevitable.

Women will settle their rights once and for all and forever when humanity is far more advanced physically, spiritually and mentally. Limitation is not part of Satanism.

 

[Reyra]

No worries. Keep your head up, walk onward, and it’ll be alright.

Man, you named a lot of bakery foods that I love! I’ve not heard of “Fiona” cake before. Whenever I hear that name I just think Shrek haha.

Haha we all start somewhere.
Yeah I was just a kid. A lot of women in my family are seamstresses in their own time. I started with just fabric glue and spare material before my mother and my grandnan taught me to use an actual needle and thread :lol:

I managed to find the original video tutorial that I used to make my octopus plushie!

https://youtu.be/0VwlYbKR40s

Thank you, both of you, tabby and jvran. I appreciate it.

Haha, you know what...you are not wrong. There actually is a cake version of Shrek! And it looks like this:

And here is Fiona:

They are similar to each other, but have a few differences. Shrek has a gooseberry or kiwi flavor (depending on what you choose) and Fiona has a raspberry flavor.

So you started, when you were little. No wonder you have so much knowledge in this field. I wish my mother have teached me too, but maybe I didn't show too much interest in it before.
Thank you for this tutorial! I am definitely going to sew this octupus with moustache and hat. He looks pretty cool. :lol:

And by the way...I finally bought myself a hoop and another embroidery tools. Now I just need to find a nice pattern and start embroidering. I'd like to embroider flowers on it for sure. Your post made me want to go back to sewing and trying new things. Sewing has always calmed me down, so I'm glad you decided to create such a thread!

Aw the pics didn’t come through right. Oh well, but that is funny there’s a Shrek version :lol:

Never too late to learn. I had a lot of fun when I made my octopus plush, the only part I had trouble with was attaching the feet things but eventually I figured it out haha.

Oh nice! Embroidered flowers are so pretty. I’m a total novice with embroidery currently but if I could sit down and make floral patterns with it I totally would.

You’re welcome. I’m really happy it’s been helpful for you and others. I guess I should give some credit to Meteor for asking me about sewing advice. If not for her I probably would never have made a thread like this. Something like this wouldn’t have crossed my mind to put out here on my own.

Oh, I swear they appeared properly in the preview, I don't know what went wrong, but anyway, they are delicious. I think it's probably a recipe from my country, so that's why you may not have heard of it.

Truth. When my sister got such an octopus, I joked that I would also sew a similar one. I didn't look at any of the tutorials before, as I forgot about it, only after you wrote it, I realized that I was going to sew it. Glad you gave me this link to it. Anyway, I think I might have trouble attaching these feet like you, but I think I'll figure it out somehow too.
If you know other interesting tutorials on sewing mascots, you can also send me something interesting.

Me too. Actually, this is the first time I embroider, but like I said before, you inspired me to try different things. And yeah it's a bit time consuming, but it looks pretty good. Maybe it's not perfect, but for the first time I'm quite happy with the effect. I have to finish the last flower and it will be done. When I get embroidered practice and my works will look better, I'm going to make one to Father Satan. I saw people drawing before, and as I draw rather average, I thought that I could give something in a different form.

Also I got a machine sewing from my aunt. My grandfather suddenly had the idea that he wanted to buy me a machine, then my aunt found out about it and she gave me one. So when I finish my embroidery practice, I will finally start learning how to use the machine.

Yes, she deserves credit too! Both of you actually.

 

[tabby]

Aw the pics didn’t come through right. Oh well, but that is funny there’s a Shrek version :lol:

Never too late to learn. I had a lot of fun when I made my octopus plush, the only part I had trouble with was attaching the feet things but eventually I figured it out haha.

Oh nice! Embroidered flowers are so pretty. I’m a total novice with embroidery currently but if I could sit down and make floral patterns with it I totally would.

You’re welcome. I’m really happy it’s been helpful for you and others. I guess I should give some credit to Meteor for asking me about sewing advice. If not for her I probably would never have made a thread like this. Something like this wouldn’t have crossed my mind to put out here on my own.

Oh, I swear they appeared properly in the preview, I don't know what went wrong, but anyway, they are delicious. I think it's probably a recipe from my country, so that's why you may not have heard of it.

Truth. When my sister got such an octopus, I joked that I would also sew a similar one. I didn't look at any of the tutorials before, as I forgot about it, only after you wrote it, I realized that I was going to sew it. Glad you gave me this link to it. Anyway, I think I might have trouble attaching these feet like you, but I think I'll figure it out somehow too.
If you know other interesting tutorials on sewing mascots, you can also send me something interesting.

Me too. Actually, this is the first time I embroider, but like I said before, you inspired me to try different things. And yeah it's a bit time consuming, but it looks pretty good. Maybe it's not perfect, but for the first time I'm quite happy with the effect. I have to finish the last flower and it will be done. When I get embroidered practice and my works will look better, I'm going to make one to Father Satan. I saw people drawing before, and as I draw rather average, I thought that I could give something in a different form.

Also I got a machine sewing from my aunt. My grandfather suddenly had the idea that he wanted to buy me a machine, then my aunt found out about it and she gave me one. So when I finish my embroidery practice, I will finally start learning how to use the machine.

Yes, she deserves credit too! Both of you actually.

No matter. Food from others countries has always intrigued me. Learning about the different flavours and techniques, common household traditions at holidays. It makes me happy, well, good food in general makes me happy :lol:

Oh haha funny how things happen. I know I hand sewed it together and had to fiddle with the feet a bit... I think I ran a thread through all the feet first to sorta string them together and then attempted to attach it to the body. I'm not sure if that's how you were supposed to do it but eventually it worked out and sat properly, but might need to try a couple ways and see what works best.

That was the only tutorial for a toy plush I used, the rest were just going off the top of my head, but I'll keep an eye out for more tutorials that look like they will work. Maybe I'll inspire myself to get back into plush making again haha.

Nice! Well done. I know what you mean, I'm still trying to polish my drawing skills in order to actually draw what I see in my head on paper but got a ways to go. I think an embroidered piece to Father would be wonderful.

Good luck to you with your machine and happy sewing haha.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp6UnhetWLs

These pants are awesome!!! (Don't know if you've seen this video yet though )

 

[tabby]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp6UnhetWLs

These pants are awesome!!! (Don't know if you've seen this video yet though )

YES! IKR? I saw 'em the day the video came out. If I had the time and materials I'd totally want to make some and take a hike around town in them :lol: already head deep in a few running projects as is haha.

You heard about the lady making the peacock dress? She's dropping the project, apparently.

 

[Mastermind]

I’ll write as much as I can here without making this too long. It’s my belief that “we are what we wear”, and no body wants to walk around with ill fitting clothes that make them feel and look more like a slave than a healthy wonderful person.

A shirt's collar, cuffs and tie are symbols of slavery.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

I’ll write as much as I can here without making this too long. It’s my belief that “we are what we wear”, and no body wants to walk around with ill fitting clothes that make them feel and look more like a slave than a healthy wonderful person.

A shirt's collar, cuffs and tie are symbols of slavery.

Maybe if you’re a mentally ill neegar it’s literally just clothing.

 

[tabby]

I’ll write as much as I can here without making this too long. It’s my belief that “we are what we wear”, and no body wants to walk around with ill fitting clothes that make them feel and look more like a slave than a healthy wonderful person.

A shirt's collar, cuffs and tie are symbols of slavery.

I suppose that would depend on who you ask and where you site your info on such things. If you wanted to go down that particular rabbit hole you could go as far to say that necklaces, chokers, bracelets, anklets, rings, etc, are all "symbols of slavery" for the fact that these items are made usually of chain, and worn on the common areas of the throat and wrists. But logic and simple peeks into history would tell you that these are no such symbols but instead ones of power and wealth. Adorning the body in riches to display status, hierarchy, beauty, and ceremony (among other things).

The cuffs and collars, ties and such today mean little more than design choice of the clothing to achieve a particular silhouette and appearance of the person wearing said clothing items. As desires and tastes in fashion change so does the appearance of clothing and the purpose it provides the wearer. A button down shirt with a suit and tie, well pressed cuffs and collars have been symbols of authority and power of the wearer for a long time after the use of robes and cloaks fell out of favor. There's a reason wealthy politicians and government rulers wear them. One look at a man or woman in a suit and you know intuitively based on their appearance what their status and type of job in society is, and these kinds of people are rarely if ever on the low rung on the ladder.

A quick search into the evolution of collars and decorative cloth worn around the neck or a look at cuffs will show you that those of even the highest place in society often times had very elaborate pieces, especially around the neck/throat.

These pieces on the clothes also serve specific purposes in most cases not just as a fashion statement or accessory. The cuffs on shirts and sometimes coats allows for the shirt to be fastened at the wrist, making it easier to keep the fabric of the sleeves out of the way of the hands, usually only required on long sleeves. Decorative edging on the cuffs and collars were often added and could pose as a symbol of status based on how elaborate they were. Collars have served the purpose of not just causing a shirt to be more flattering visually for the wearer but also can act as sun protection for the softer skin of the neck and throat, as well as keep the skin contact to outer garments to a minimum. The most common places for shirts to go nasty and yellow are around the neck line, arm pits, and wrists, and so wearing clothing that covers these areas prevents the same from happening to more expensive outer wear like a coat for example, that are also harder to wash.

I'd rather not turn this into an essay so to cut this short, making statements like that are more or less redundant really since whether you were rich or poor, slave or not, your clothing (depending on the period and fashion taste) all had pieces like collars, cuffs, and decorative cloths for the neck within their clothing choices.

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp6UnhetWLs

These pants are awesome!!! (Don't know if you've seen this video yet though )

YES! IKR? I saw 'em the day the video came out. If I had the time and materials I'd totally want to make some and take a hike around town in them :lol: already head deep in a few running projects as is haha.

You heard about the lady making the peacock dress? She's dropping the project, apparently.

I heard she is not making or reconstructing the qorld because of slavery that happened apparently..
And then she wanted to butcher the idea alltogether. And shape it into something new. This is just me but I think she should just have continued to make and finish it as it has been in the original state..

I mean we live in the 21st century now. But apparently giving your past away to some "migrants" who only want to burn and raze it to the ground under the direction of Jews.. Is still more important? What. The. Heck.

I don't know if there were any updates since but I have not watched em.

 

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A button down shirt with a suit and tie, well pressed cuffs and collars have been symbols of authority and power of the wearer for a long time after the use of robes and cloaks fell out of favor. There's a reason wealthy politicians and government rulers wear them. One look at a man or woman in a suit and you know intuitively based on their appearance what their status and type of job in society is, and these kinds of people are rarely if ever on the low rung on the ladder.

The reason that robes and cloaks fell out of favor is because they didn't require as much maintenance.
Why do we find certain clothing more attractive than other clothing?
Anti-functional is attractive
We find something beautiful when the creator of the item had the opportunity to make the item functional but chose to make it anti-functional and restrictive. Only people with lots of resources can buy such items.
Why does a Porsche 911 look better than a pick up truck? Because the Porsche 911 is anti-functional despite having a higher price. You can transport very little stuff with it despite its sole function being a transport device.
Why do women wear heeled shoes? Long hair? Long nails? Clothes without pockets?
They are all anti-functional.
The signal that women send with such clothing is that they don't have to do heavy work and that they have plenty of time at their disposal.
Maintenance heavy clothing is attractive
For the same reason that anti-functional and restrictive clothing is attractive, maintenance heavy clothing sends a signal to others that you don't do heavy labor and that you have plenty of time (thus resources) at your disposal to maintain such clothing.

Politicians wear shirts and ties because they have to. They have to obey their masters. If they were truly powerful they wouldn't wear them.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

A button down shirt with a suit and tie, well pressed cuffs and collars have been symbols of authority and power of the wearer for a long time after the use of robes and cloaks fell out of favor. There's a reason wealthy politicians and government rulers wear them. One look at a man or woman in a suit and you know intuitively based on their appearance what their status and type of job in society is, and these kinds of people are rarely if ever on the low rung on the ladder.

The reason that robes and cloaks fell out of favor is because they didn't require as much maintenance.
Why do we find certain clothing more attractive than other clothing?
Anti-functional is attractive
We find something beautiful when the creator of the item had the opportunity to make the item functional but chose to make it anti-functional and restrictive. Only people with lots of resources can buy such items.
Why does a Porsche 911 look better than a pick up truck? Because the Porsche 911 is anti-functional despite having a higher price. You can transport very little stuff with it despite its sole function being a transport device.
Why do women wear heeled shoes? Long hair? Long nails? Clothes without pockets?
They are all anti-functional.
The signal that women send with such clothing is that they don't have to do heavy work and that they have plenty of time at their disposal.
Maintenance heavy clothing is attractive
For the same reason that anti-functional and restrictive clothing is attractive, maintenance heavy clothing sends a signal to others that you don't do heavy labor and that you have plenty of time (thus resources) at your disposal to maintain such clothing.

Politicians wear shirts and ties because they have to. They have to obey their masters. If they were truly powerful they wouldn't wear them.

K so ffies these first 2 lines I wrote were insults. I deleted them.
To be bluntly honest I still think your views are unnecessarily sober and actually unhealthy.


Gentiles create things of beauty.
Clothing is not as impractical as you think. Most of those delicate artpieces that you speak about are derived from normal day working clothes. They are not that much different.

If you do not understand that you ought not to wear your normal work clothes to a ball then I am not sure what will make the coin drop. Of course you wear pretty things as a show-off. And there is N O T H I N G wrong with that.

Perhaps go and watch some of Abby Cox' videos. Or some of the other dress historians on youtube. Then come back and talk here.

I don't think you'd think about the time it takes to sew a proper garment either... You simply don't spend elaborate amounts of time on sewing your work clothes only to stain or dirty them.
As for the 'maintenance heavy' part. Please do get more knowledge before making assumptions. We are not here to babysit.

Like tabby mentioned, you wear a shirt underneath your clothes. Your "UNDERGARMENTS". Those are washed frequently and worn so that you don't dirty your normal clothes/outer wear as much. Pretty elaborate clothes are NOT daily wear. As thus, they are NOT "maintenance heavy" as you call it.