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tobisripper

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New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@... wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.joyofsatan.com

Hail Satan Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTNFrom: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49 -0000To: <[email protected]ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)
  New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?

 
Not if he's not dedicated.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "claudius" <claudiuslawal@... wrote:

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.joyofsatan.com

Hail Satan
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-----Original Message-----
From: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@...
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Reply-To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
I know that the high-ranking god, Azazel ,could help you with your musical pursuits. But you will have to do power meditations and open your chakras(our energy centers). I also advise studying the Joy Of Satan website and other sites found in its 'Links' section. In the future, if you have a question for the E-Groups, be sure to use the search bar to find posts on the subject you want to know about. Good Luck.

Ave Lucifer and the Gods!
 
To answer your last 2 questions first: No.

...and No.


Welcome. Feel free to read www.JoyofSatan.org if you like, as this will explain a lot to you, I think.


Just know this: The Gods have no time to sit around and teach someone about music, one-on-one. You have to pick up a book, read instructions, take lessons, etc. Besides, you wouldn't even be able to PERCEIVE a God if you weren't spiritually advanced enough.

Unless of course the God fully manifested in your presence.
Which would kill you instantly.

You seem to be here to get Gods to teach you music. Which is ok, I guess. Except that... they aren't going to do that. Why? Because they are in the middle of a war. They don't have time to waste.

The more fundamental issue is that Satanism is NOT about the Gods teaching you stuff that you could easily teach yourself. It sounds like you are very busy and I respect that. The Gods respect that, too. But you must also respect that they are very busy as well.

Satanism is about making yourself better through hard work over time.

Satanism is about meditating. There are LOTS of things I wish the gods would come and teach me, one-on-one. And I have certainly said so to them. But I don't expect them to actually do that. Why? First of all, because they are Gods. They don't really owe me a goddamn thing. But moreover, because they are busy. And because knowledge takes time to absorb.

Some of those things that I wanted the Gods to teach me, they have taught me. But not always in the way I thought they would. And usually the lesson only happened after I put some effort in on my own part. I read a book on a subject and a god whispers in my ear as I'm reading it, to help me understand something I would have missed. But this doesn't always happen because - like I said - they are busy.

Your interest in music is good, and Satan loves music. Satan created humanity, and gave us the ability to enjoy and create music in the first place. But you must understand that if you wanting to learn music is the only reason that you want to be a Satanist, then you probably shouldn't be a Satanist.

Go buy a music theory book instead.

I know it's a pain in the ass or whatever, but you gotta do what you gotta do, right?


HAIL SATAN!!



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@... wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
Actually, Gods very often assist people who are not dedicated.

It's how many of us wound up here in the first place -
or survived long enough to learn the Truth.


HAIL SATAN!!


...of course, dedication takes you to a whole new level.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

Not if he's not dedicated.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "claudius" <claudiuslawal@ wrote:

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.joyofsatan.com

Hail Satan
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-----Original Message-----
From: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Reply-To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
It's because you're talking about people who were Satanists in their past lives. It's the same as being dedicated. But I highly doubt a person who sees them as businessmen and doesn't want to join SS would have been with them in their past lives.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@... wrote:

Actually, Gods very often assist people who are not dedicated.

It's how many of us wound up here in the first place -
or survived long enough to learn the Truth.


HAIL SATAN!!


...of course, dedication takes you to a whole new level.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Not if he's not dedicated.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "claudius" <claudiuslawal@ wrote:

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.joyofsatan.com

Hail Satan
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-----Original Message-----
From: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Reply-To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
I disagree, he talked about power meditation which means he has read either the JoS site or these posts here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@... wrote:

Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
Hey my name is Milton I am from South African and New to Satanism. I have had a challenging childhood and can't Stop thanking Satan enough for sparing me up till the day I was able to learn the truth. I used to ask myself a question how did I survive. All hail the bringer of Life Satan! I am also a proud music composer and a music producer. Music was the only reason why I survived my past life as a boy and I would improvise with any object to create some sort of tune. This would put me in some sort of lack of awareness of what was happening around me and didn't notice my hard life. Branded my society that all I was composed of was nothing but madness and I was labeled as such from childhood. Now I see my reason for survival so when I was finally able to live in a "children home" (centre for abused, neglected and HIV positive. Children) this was home till I found ran into the jos site. I was always questioning christianity and other religions as a boy and didn't know why but all I knew is my reasoning always has a lot of truth which I didn't even know where it came from. I than learned about the laws of the universe and ended up in the Hands of my father. I have not yet activated my pineal galnd and I am doing meditation and now mastering void meditation. I read all post to see perspective of individuals/ fellow brother on the groups. Since I know my creator now I wanna dedicate my music to him and his creation, Humanity. Now all that is ringing in my ears is music to change the age of humanity. Yes I would like some sort of assistance from the Gods and Father is possible and or if they are available. Its not about easy making money is about creating music that can have energy signals that every human can enjoy regardless of where they may be. Now that I know I have gifts from Satan makes me happy also. I just wanted to say that we can unite in music as Satanists. That's if our objective is of the same nature in liberating humanity to make them realize their true potential.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!
Millitone Music®From: "hells666steward" <hells666steward@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 05:32:41 -0000To: <[email protected]ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)
  Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.

HAIL SATAN

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
From your post, I understand that your passion in life is music. That is appreciable. I also appreciate the fact that you are doing power meditation.

However, you cannot make a "pact with the demon" and no, it is not a business transaction. While it may sound glorious about "making a pact with the devil" or you may have heard about pop musicians all around the world who "sold their soul to the devil", this cannot be done here. The gods are not devil and neither father Satan is. While the gods may be willing to help you with the knowledge of music, when you say making a pact, it sounds derogatory (though unintentional). You need to understand that they deserve respect and deserve dedication along with your efforts (there is no magic pill to solve your problems unless you take action). So, if you are willing to embrace them from your heart and treat them as your teachers, yes, they can help you.

Dedication to father Satan shows that you have embraced him and his demons/gods from the heart.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@... wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
Yeah. Ok. I'll bet he did read something.

Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?

It is not wise to push potentially good Satanists away by being rude to them when they are new and looking for answers. We have enough problems with the enemy trying to make us look bad as it is.

And before you say "he wouldn't be a good Satanist" let me ask you again - did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it? Because if you did, you would have no reason to have come here in the first place.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

I disagree, he talked about power meditation which means he has read either the JoS site or these posts here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
His post is entitled "...Beginner questions."

Think about that.


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@... wrote:

Yeah. Ok. I'll bet he did read something.

Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?

It is not wise to push potentially good Satanists away by being rude to them when they are new and looking for answers. We have enough problems with the enemy trying to make us look bad as it is.

And before you say "he wouldn't be a good Satanist" let me ask you again - did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it? Because if you did, you would have no reason to have come here in the first place.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I disagree, he talked about power meditation which means he has read either the JoS site or these posts here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
Hello, and Welcome!!

Please read www.JoyofSatan.com thoroughly. It looks as though you have already begun.

Spirituality is intense. These things take time. You have to work at them every day, and don't get discouraged. The Gods are VERY busy out in the Heavens trying to battle the enemy throughout the galaxy and on the astral so we have to depend upon ourselves wherever possible.

Keep this in mind. We must depend on ourselves where we can. But when we are in dire need, the Gods are always there to help us.

HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Simphiwe Milton Sewedi" <miltonsewedi@... wrote:

Hey my name is Milton I am from South African and New to Satanism. I have had a challenging childhood and can't Stop thanking Satan enough for sparing me up till the day I was able to learn the truth. I used to ask myself a question how did I survive. All hail the bringer of Life Satan! I am also a proud music composer and a music producer. Music was the only reason why I survived my past life as a boy and I would improvise with any object to create some sort of tune. This would put me in some sort of lack of awareness of what was happening around me and didn't notice my hard life. Branded my society that all I was composed of was nothing but madness and I was labeled as such from childhood. Now I see my reason for survival so when I was finally able to live in a "children home" (centre for abused, neglected and HIV positive. Children) this was home till I found ran into the jos site. I was always questioning christianity and other religions as a boy and didn't know why but all I knew is my reasoning always has a lot of truth which I didn't even know where it came from. I than learned about the laws of the universe and ended up in the Hands of my father. I have not yet activated my pineal galnd and I am doing meditation and now mastering void meditation. I read all post to see perspective of individuals/ fellow brother on the groups. Since I know my creator now I wanna dedicate my music to him and his creation, Humanity. Now all that is ringing in my ears is music to change the age of humanity. Yes I would like some sort of assistance from the Gods and Father is possible and or if they are available. Its not about easy making money is about creating music that can have energy signals that every human can enjoy regardless of where they may be. Now that I know I have gifts from Satan makes me happy also. I just wanted to say that we can unite in music as Satanists. That's if our objective is of the same nature in liberating humanity to make them realize their true potential.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!

Millitone Music®

-----Original Message-----
From: "hells666steward" <hells666steward@...
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 05:32:41
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Reply-To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
Everyone is different.

You are making an ASSUMPTION.

Let him prove himself. Or disprove himself. Over time.

By your logic, no christian could ever become a Satanist.

That's incorrect. Obviously.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

It's because you're talking about people who were Satanists in their past lives. It's the same as being dedicated. But I highly doubt a person who sees them as businessmen and doesn't want to join SS would have been with them in their past lives.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Actually, Gods very often assist people who are not dedicated.

It's how many of us wound up here in the first place -
or survived long enough to learn the Truth.


HAIL SATAN!!


...of course, dedication takes you to a whole new level.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Not if he's not dedicated.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "claudius" <claudiuslawal@ wrote:

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.joyofsatan.com

Hail Satan
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-----Original Message-----
From: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Reply-To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
What I was talking about in my previous post was not if he can become a Satanist or not, but whether he can get help if he's not dedicated and doesn't wanna dedicate. Those who get help and guided from the Gods if they are not dedicated are those who were SS in their past lives. Did you read his post where he asked if it's possible to make a business trade with the Gods without committing to SS??What do you make of this?? That's what he wants to do, otherwise he wouldn't be asking of this.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@... wrote:

Everyone is different.

You are making an ASSUMPTION.

Let him prove himself. Or disprove himself. Over time.

By your logic, no christian could ever become a Satanist.

That's incorrect. Obviously.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

It's because you're talking about people who were Satanists in their past lives. It's the same as being dedicated. But I highly doubt a person who sees them as businessmen and doesn't want to join SS would have been with them in their past lives.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Actually, Gods very often assist people who are not dedicated.

It's how many of us wound up here in the first place -
or survived long enough to learn the Truth.


HAIL SATAN!!


...of course, dedication takes you to a whole new level.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Not if he's not dedicated.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "claudius" <claudiuslawal@ wrote:

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.joyofsatan.com

Hail Satan
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-----Original Message-----
From: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Reply-To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
"Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?"

If I didn't take the time to understand the JoS I wouldn't have joined the group and asked questions at all, so more what would be perceived as insulting question. That's the difference.

Again have y0ou actually read his post or not??He said he doesn't want to become a SS but merely use our Gods as businessmen for his music. He asked this:

"Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?"

That means he obviously made this decision beforehand. And he doesn't give a hint at all that he's interested in SS, but all he talks is about music and wanting to write music. He isn't "looking for answers", but to use our Gods for his selfish purposes. See would a person like that even become a SS unless he changed his mind?? He's not a "potential" SS, he just made up his mind that all he's interested is in music. We don't have to coddle to these types of people, they are disrespectful to us and our Gods and most likely jewish.

"did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it?"

The entire point is not knowledge but motivation. If one has the wrong motive i.e. music and nothing else, no matter how much he learns, if he keeps that same motive and disregards spiritual advancement he won't be not only a bad SS, but not a SS at all.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@... wrote:

Yeah. Ok. I'll bet he did read something.

Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?

It is not wise to push potentially good Satanists away by being rude to them when they are new and looking for answers. We have enough problems with the enemy trying to make us look bad as it is.

And before you say "he wouldn't be a good Satanist" let me ask you again - did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it? Because if you did, you would have no reason to have come here in the first place.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I disagree, he talked about power meditation which means he has read either the JoS site or these posts here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
And I don't see these people as "potential Satanists" either, but as DROSS which needs to be weeded out. If one thinks in a jewish way it means they're gonna cause problems to us. By your logic why not accept jews and other infiltrators since they would be "potential Satanists"? One key point here is to weed out the dross, unless they reform themselves and know what they're about. We do need to weed out the weak, after all as HP Maxine said Satanism is like the special forces, it's not for everyone but the strongest.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

"Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?"

If I didn't take the time to understand the JoS I wouldn't have joined the group and asked questions at all, so more what would be perceived as insulting question. That's the difference.

Again have y0ou actually read his post or not??He said he doesn't want to become a SS but merely use our Gods as businessmen for his music. He asked this:

"Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?"

That means he obviously made this decision beforehand. And he doesn't give a hint at all that he's interested in SS, but all he talks is about music and wanting to write music. He isn't "looking for answers", but to use our Gods for his selfish purposes. See would a person like that even become a SS unless he changed his mind?? He's not a "potential" SS, he just made up his mind that all he's interested is in music. We don't have to coddle to these types of people, they are disrespectful to us and our Gods and most likely jewish.

"did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it?"

The entire point is not knowledge but motivation. If one has the wrong motive i.e. music and nothing else, no matter how much he learns, if he keeps that same motive and disregards spiritual advancement he won't be not only a bad SS, but not a SS at all.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Yeah. Ok. I'll bet he did read something.

Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?

It is not wise to push potentially good Satanists away by being rude to them when they are new and looking for answers. We have enough problems with the enemy trying to make us look bad as it is.

And before you say "he wouldn't be a good Satanist" let me ask you again - did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it? Because if you did, you would have no reason to have come here in the first place.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I disagree, he talked about power meditation which means he has read either the JoS site or these posts here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
BTW if it was about "accepting everyone" it would be politically correct, we would not use the name Satan but Enki to make it easier on xians and jews, we would remove the blasphemies against the enemy in the dedication ritual and we would never talk about Nazism which many people have hangups. Just like that loveenki crap.

Thankfully it's not like that or I wouldn't have ever joined these groups. So you can see it's not for "everyone" not is everyone fitting, it's for the strong and fearless. That's why we have the dedication in the first place. We don't have to coddle to anyone to try to convert them, but it's their own free will if they want to join or not. We're not xians.

I've seen some person who dedicated and something bad happened after a while and she prayed to jewsus. Do you think that person as it is is a fitting SS??I would say no.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

And I don't see these people as "potential Satanists" either, but as DROSS which needs to be weeded out. If one thinks in a jewish way it means they're gonna cause problems to us. By your logic why not accept jews and other infiltrators since they would be "potential Satanists"? One key point here is to weed out the dross, unless they reform themselves and know what they're about. We do need to weed out the weak, after all as HP Maxine said Satanism is like the special forces, it's not for everyone but the strongest.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

"Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?"

If I didn't take the time to understand the JoS I wouldn't have joined the group and asked questions at all, so more what would be perceived as insulting question. That's the difference.

Again have y0ou actually read his post or not??He said he doesn't want to become a SS but merely use our Gods as businessmen for his music. He asked this:

"Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?"

That means he obviously made this decision beforehand. And he doesn't give a hint at all that he's interested in SS, but all he talks is about music and wanting to write music. He isn't "looking for answers", but to use our Gods for his selfish purposes. See would a person like that even become a SS unless he changed his mind?? He's not a "potential" SS, he just made up his mind that all he's interested is in music. We don't have to coddle to these types of people, they are disrespectful to us and our Gods and most likely jewish.

"did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it?"

The entire point is not knowledge but motivation. If one has the wrong motive i.e. music and nothing else, no matter how much he learns, if he keeps that same motive and disregards spiritual advancement he won't be not only a bad SS, but not a SS at all.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Yeah. Ok. I'll bet he did read something.

Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?

It is not wise to push potentially good Satanists away by being rude to them when they are new and looking for answers. We have enough problems with the enemy trying to make us look bad as it is.

And before you say "he wouldn't be a good Satanist" let me ask you again - did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it? Because if you did, you would have no reason to have come here in the first place.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I disagree, he talked about power meditation which means he has read either the JoS site or these posts here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
I agree with your point of view about this OP, and Spiritual Satanism is not for the weak, it is for the strong.

Hail Satan!
Forever!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

BTW if it was about "accepting everyone" it would be politically correct, we would not use the name Satan but Enki to make it easier on xians and jews, we would remove the blasphemies against the enemy in the dedication ritual and we would never talk about Nazism which many people have hangups. Just like that loveenki crap.

Thankfully it's not like that or I wouldn't have ever joined these groups. So you can see it's not for "everyone" not is everyone fitting, it's for the strong and fearless. That's why we have the dedication in the first place. We don't have to coddle to anyone to try to convert them, but it's their own free will if they want to join or not. We're not xians.

I've seen some person who dedicated and something bad happened after a while and she prayed to jewsus. Do you think that person as it is is a fitting SS??I would say no.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And I don't see these people as "potential Satanists" either, but as DROSS which needs to be weeded out. If one thinks in a jewish way it means they're gonna cause problems to us. By your logic why not accept jews and other infiltrators since they would be "potential Satanists"? One key point here is to weed out the dross, unless they reform themselves and know what they're about. We do need to weed out the weak, after all as HP Maxine said Satanism is like the special forces, it's not for everyone but the strongest.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

"Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?"

If I didn't take the time to understand the JoS I wouldn't have joined the group and asked questions at all, so more what would be perceived as insulting question. That's the difference.

Again have y0ou actually read his post or not??He said he doesn't want to become a SS but merely use our Gods as businessmen for his music. He asked this:

"Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?"

That means he obviously made this decision beforehand. And he doesn't give a hint at all that he's interested in SS, but all he talks is about music and wanting to write music. He isn't "looking for answers", but to use our Gods for his selfish purposes. See would a person like that even become a SS unless he changed his mind?? He's not a "potential" SS, he just made up his mind that all he's interested is in music. We don't have to coddle to these types of people, they are disrespectful to us and our Gods and most likely jewish.

"did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it?"

The entire point is not knowledge but motivation. If one has the wrong motive i.e. music and nothing else, no matter how much he learns, if he keeps that same motive and disregards spiritual advancement he won't be not only a bad SS, but not a SS at all.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Yeah. Ok. I'll bet he did read something.

Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?

It is not wise to push potentially good Satanists away by being rude to them when they are new and looking for answers. We have enough problems with the enemy trying to make us look bad as it is.

And before you say "he wouldn't be a good Satanist" let me ask you again - did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it? Because if you did, you would have no reason to have come here in the first place.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I disagree, he talked about power meditation which means he has read either the JoS site or these posts here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
The daily meditations will develop your talents in this area. Along with opening you up more to communicate directly with the Gods.

However dedication ritual is required. Not to be rude but you need to understand the point of this path is to spiritually advance. The Gods are the original Guru's. All comes out of this. So by your dedication you ask for help on your subject. But as a loyal and spiritual advancing, being.

Interesting enough if you advance far enough you will find they had a whole exact, musical form to explain the entire metaphyisical functioning of the universe and the perfection of the human.




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@... wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
And xians becoming Satanists is totally different. For starters I never said that person can't become a Satanist. He can, but ONLY IF HE CHANGES HIS WAY OF THINKING AND IF HE'S A GENTILE. From my experience, people who think that way are usually jews. These jews are interested in crap about the enemy lies about our Gods as well. Also again people who have been SS's in their past lives are attracted from the first moment in the site and found this is the truth. That's the usual thing, whatever they experience it always awakens something in them and they knew this was meant for them. Compare that to this guy. Did he really explained he felt anything like that??On the contrary not, most of his post was about music and how he wants to do things, he didn't really give a shit about our Gods or SS. If one is a SS from past lives they always feel a sign.

There are many different types of xians. There are those who are xians in name only, which is the majority of xians. Those xians simply are xians because they are raised so, they rarely go to church and have never read the buybull. These are the easiest to become SS as in the bottom of their soul don't really believe in xianity. There are the hardcore xians who have been xians in many past lives and these are almost impossible to become SS's.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@... wrote:

Everyone is different.

You are making an ASSUMPTION.

Let him prove himself. Or disprove himself. Over time.

By your logic, no christian could ever become a Satanist.

That's incorrect. Obviously.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

It's because you're talking about people who were Satanists in their past lives. It's the same as being dedicated. But I highly doubt a person who sees them as businessmen and doesn't want to join SS would have been with them in their past lives.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Actually, Gods very often assist people who are not dedicated.

It's how many of us wound up here in the first place -
or survived long enough to learn the Truth.


HAIL SATAN!!


...of course, dedication takes you to a whole new level.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Not if he's not dedicated.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "claudius" <claudiuslawal@ wrote:

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.joyofsatan.com

Hail Satan
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-----Original Message-----
From: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Reply-To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
The way you responded to him didn't give him any good reason to change his thinking. All you did was yell at him for being wrong.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

And xians becoming Satanists is totally different. For starters I never said that person can't become a Satanist. He can, but ONLY IF HE CHANGES HIS WAY OF THINKING AND IF HE'S A GENTILE. From my experience, people who think that way are usually jews. These jews are interested in crap about the enemy lies about our Gods as well. Also again people who have been SS's in their past lives are attracted from the first moment in the site and found this is the truth. That's the usual thing, whatever they experience it always awakens something in them and they knew this was meant for them. Compare that to this guy. Did he really explained he felt anything like that??On the contrary not, most of his post was about music and how he wants to do things, he didn't really give a shit about our Gods or SS. If one is a SS from past lives they always feel a sign.

There are many different types of xians. There are those who are xians in name only, which is the majority of xians. Those xians simply are xians because they are raised so, they rarely go to church and have never read the buybull. These are the easiest to become SS as in the bottom of their soul don't really believe in xianity. There are the hardcore xians who have been xians in many past lives and these are almost impossible to become SS's.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Everyone is different.

You are making an ASSUMPTION.

Let him prove himself. Or disprove himself. Over time.

By your logic, no christian could ever become a Satanist.

That's incorrect. Obviously.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

It's because you're talking about people who were Satanists in their past lives. It's the same as being dedicated. But I highly doubt a person who sees them as businessmen and doesn't want to join SS would have been with them in their past lives.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Actually, Gods very often assist people who are not dedicated.

It's how many of us wound up here in the first place -
or survived long enough to learn the Truth.


HAIL SATAN!!


...of course, dedication takes you to a whole new level.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Not if he's not dedicated.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "claudius" <claudiuslawal@ wrote:

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.joyofsatan.com

Hail Satan
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-----Original Message-----
From: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Reply-To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
I'm not going to keep going back and forth with you.

Yes, obviously I read his post. And read it again after I saw your response.

I made my statements and I stand by them.

Obviously he had the wrong attitude about Satanism.

Most people on Earth have the wrong attitude about Satanism. That's why the JoS exists. To educate people. Not to yell at them when they're wrong and are *asking* to learn - especially when they're new.

You are assuming he's jewish etc etc because he looked at it as a business transaction.

NEWS FLASH: That's how most people think Satanism works. A business transaction. "Sell your soul to the Devil" etc. Note the word "sell." A business transaction. It has nothing to do with being jewish. It has to do with being deceived. I thought that would be blatantly obvious to you, since you are so advanced but I guess not.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

"Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?"

If I didn't take the time to understand the JoS I wouldn't have joined the group and asked questions at all, so more what would be perceived as insulting question. That's the difference.

Again have y0ou actually read his post or not??He said he doesn't want to become a SS but merely use our Gods as businessmen for his music. He asked this:

"Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?"

That means he obviously made this decision beforehand. And he doesn't give a hint at all that he's interested in SS, but all he talks is about music and wanting to write music. He isn't "looking for answers", but to use our Gods for his selfish purposes. See would a person like that even become a SS unless he changed his mind?? He's not a "potential" SS, he just made up his mind that all he's interested is in music. We don't have to coddle to these types of people, they are disrespectful to us and our Gods and most likely jewish.

"did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it?"

The entire point is not knowledge but motivation. If one has the wrong motive i.e. music and nothing else, no matter how much he learns, if he keeps that same motive and disregards spiritual advancement he won't be not only a bad SS, but not a SS at all.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Yeah. Ok. I'll bet he did read something.

Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?

It is not wise to push potentially good Satanists away by being rude to them when they are new and looking for answers. We have enough problems with the enemy trying to make us look bad as it is.

And before you say "he wouldn't be a good Satanist" let me ask you again - did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it? Because if you did, you would have no reason to have come here in the first place.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I disagree, he talked about power meditation which means he has read either the JoS site or these posts here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
lol you are twisting my words all around.

I never said we are here to accept everyone. Not even close.

HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

BTW if it was about "accepting everyone" it would be politically correct, we would not use the name Satan but Enki to make it easier on xians and jews, we would remove the blasphemies against the enemy in the dedication ritual and we would never talk about Nazism which many people have hangups. Just like that loveenki crap.

Thankfully it's not like that or I wouldn't have ever joined these groups. So you can see it's not for "everyone" not is everyone fitting, it's for the strong and fearless. That's why we have the dedication in the first place. We don't have to coddle to anyone to try to convert them, but it's their own free will if they want to join or not. We're not xians.

I've seen some person who dedicated and something bad happened after a while and she prayed to jewsus. Do you think that person as it is is a fitting SS??I would say no.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And I don't see these people as "potential Satanists" either, but as DROSS which needs to be weeded out. If one thinks in a jewish way it means they're gonna cause problems to us. By your logic why not accept jews and other infiltrators since they would be "potential Satanists"? One key point here is to weed out the dross, unless they reform themselves and know what they're about. We do need to weed out the weak, after all as HP Maxine said Satanism is like the special forces, it's not for everyone but the strongest.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

"Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?"

If I didn't take the time to understand the JoS I wouldn't have joined the group and asked questions at all, so more what would be perceived as insulting question. That's the difference.

Again have y0ou actually read his post or not??He said he doesn't want to become a SS but merely use our Gods as businessmen for his music. He asked this:

"Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?"

That means he obviously made this decision beforehand. And he doesn't give a hint at all that he's interested in SS, but all he talks is about music and wanting to write music. He isn't "looking for answers", but to use our Gods for his selfish purposes. See would a person like that even become a SS unless he changed his mind?? He's not a "potential" SS, he just made up his mind that all he's interested is in music. We don't have to coddle to these types of people, they are disrespectful to us and our Gods and most likely jewish.

"did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it?"

The entire point is not knowledge but motivation. If one has the wrong motive i.e. music and nothing else, no matter how much he learns, if he keeps that same motive and disregards spiritual advancement he won't be not only a bad SS, but not a SS at all.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Yeah. Ok. I'll bet he did read something.

Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?

It is not wise to push potentially good Satanists away by being rude to them when they are new and looking for answers. We have enough problems with the enemy trying to make us look bad as it is.

And before you say "he wouldn't be a good Satanist" let me ask you again - did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it? Because if you did, you would have no reason to have come here in the first place.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I disagree, he talked about power meditation which means he has read either the JoS site or these posts here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
By the way, I appreciate your passion regarding this subject as it is well-deserved. But I still stand with my original premise: we shouldn't be harsh with new people. We don't know who they are or where they come from. Like I said in the beginning, give them some slack. If they choose to hang themselves with it, so be it. But that's not for us to pre-judge based on their VERY FIRST POST.

Who knows, you may be right about the guy. Or maybe not. Time will tell.

Barring something extreme, This will be my last post on the matter.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

BTW if it was about "accepting everyone" it would be politically correct, we would not use the name Satan but Enki to make it easier on xians and jews, we would remove the blasphemies against the enemy in the dedication ritual and we would never talk about Nazism which many people have hangups. Just like that loveenki crap.

Thankfully it's not like that or I wouldn't have ever joined these groups. So you can see it's not for "everyone" not is everyone fitting, it's for the strong and fearless. That's why we have the dedication in the first place. We don't have to coddle to anyone to try to convert them, but it's their own free will if they want to join or not. We're not xians.

I've seen some person who dedicated and something bad happened after a while and she prayed to jewsus. Do you think that person as it is is a fitting SS??I would say no.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And I don't see these people as "potential Satanists" either, but as DROSS which needs to be weeded out. If one thinks in a jewish way it means they're gonna cause problems to us. By your logic why not accept jews and other infiltrators since they would be "potential Satanists"? One key point here is to weed out the dross, unless they reform themselves and know what they're about. We do need to weed out the weak, after all as HP Maxine said Satanism is like the special forces, it's not for everyone but the strongest.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

"Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?"

If I didn't take the time to understand the JoS I wouldn't have joined the group and asked questions at all, so more what would be perceived as insulting question. That's the difference.

Again have y0ou actually read his post or not??He said he doesn't want to become a SS but merely use our Gods as businessmen for his music. He asked this:

"Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?"

That means he obviously made this decision beforehand. And he doesn't give a hint at all that he's interested in SS, but all he talks is about music and wanting to write music. He isn't "looking for answers", but to use our Gods for his selfish purposes. See would a person like that even become a SS unless he changed his mind?? He's not a "potential" SS, he just made up his mind that all he's interested is in music. We don't have to coddle to these types of people, they are disrespectful to us and our Gods and most likely jewish.

"did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it?"

The entire point is not knowledge but motivation. If one has the wrong motive i.e. music and nothing else, no matter how much he learns, if he keeps that same motive and disregards spiritual advancement he won't be not only a bad SS, but not a SS at all.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Yeah. Ok. I'll bet he did read something.

Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?

It is not wise to push potentially good Satanists away by being rude to them when they are new and looking for answers. We have enough problems with the enemy trying to make us look bad as it is.

And before you say "he wouldn't be a good Satanist" let me ask you again - did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it? Because if you did, you would have no reason to have come here in the first place.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I disagree, he talked about power meditation which means he has read either the JoS site or these posts here.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 
what the heck??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8GfWJKyPVc
From: hells666steward <hells666steward@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 2:13 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)
  lol you are twisting my words all around.

I never said we are here to accept everyone. Not even close.

HAIL SATAN!!

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

BTW if it was about "accepting everyone" it would be politically correct, we would not use the name Satan but Enki to make it easier on xians and jews, we would remove the blasphemies against the enemy in the dedication ritual and we would never talk about Nazism which many people have hangups. Just like that loveenki crap.

Thankfully it's not like that or I wouldn't have ever joined these groups. So you can see it's not for "everyone" not is everyone fitting, it's for the strong and fearless. That's why we have the dedication in the first place. We don't have to coddle to anyone to try to convert them, but it's their own free will if they want to join or not. We're not xians.

I've seen some person who dedicated and something bad happened after a while and she prayed to jewsus. Do you think that person as it is is a fitting SS??I would say no.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And I don't see these people as "potential Satanists" either, but as DROSS which needs to be weeded out. If one thinks in a jewish way it means they're gonna cause problems to us. By your logic why not accept jews and other infiltrators since they would be "potential Satanists"? One key point here is to weed out the dross, unless they reform themselves and know what they're about. We do need to weed out the weak, after all as HP Maxine said Satanism is like the special forces, it's not for everyone but the strongest.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

"Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?"

If I didn't take the time to understand the JoS I wouldn't have joined the group and asked questions at all, so more what would be perceived as insulting question. That's the difference.

Again have y0ou actually read his post or not??He said he doesn't want to become a SS but merely use our Gods as businessmen for his music. He asked this:

"Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?"

That means he obviously made this decision beforehand. And he doesn't give a hint at all that he's interested in SS, but all he talks is about music and wanting to write music. He isn't "looking for answers", but to use our Gods for his selfish purposes. See would a person like that even become a SS unless he changed his mind?? He's not a "potential" SS, he just made up his mind that all he's interested is in music. We don't have to coddle to these types of people, they are disrespectful to us and our Gods and most likely jewish.

"did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it?"

The entire point is not knowledge but motivation. If one has the wrong motive i.e. music and nothing else, no matter how much he learns, if he keeps that same motive and disregards spiritual advancement he won't be not only a bad SS, but not a SS at all.



--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Yeah. Ok. I'll bet he did read something.

Did you know everything about Satanism after reading a few pages of the JoS or did it take you time to absorb and understand?

It is not wise to push potentially good Satanists away by being rude to them when they are new and looking for answers. We have enough problems with the enemy trying to make us look bad as it is.

And before you say "he wouldn't be a good Satanist" let me ask you again - did you know everything before you came to the site and read it and asked about it? Because if you did, you would have no reason to have come here in the first place.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I disagree, he talked about power meditation which means he has read either the JoS site or these posts here.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Dude.

Go easy on the guy. He's new. He has no idea what this is all about.


HAIL SATAN


--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I can't help but wonder whether you're a gentile or jew, because your entire thinking about trying to use our Gods as businessmen for your selfish purposes is very jewish. Those fucking rat-lizard hybrid freaks think like that and tried to abuse our Gods in the jewish grimoires in order to get money for them.

This type of thinking disgusts the Gods and humans (gentiles, since the jews aren't human) alike.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with SS at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising SS and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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