Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

[tobisripper]

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?

 

[the_fire_starter666]

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.

--- In , "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@... wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?

 

[the_fire_starter666]

And also the 80%+ of your post talks about music. Why do you think talking about your own music and art would be relevant to the purpose of the group or that anyone would give a flying fuck?? Sure with great effort I can give a fuck, but I can't make that fuck fly (I would have to find and attach a pair of wings into that fuck).

The purpose of the group is not to talk about music which has nothing to do with Zevism at all. If you dedicated your music to promoting and praising Zevism and giving a positive image of it and also making music as help for power meditation with Satanic themes something would happen, but you didn't talk about that at all.

--- In , "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

I was having a pretty good time today until I read this insulting and disrespectful (to our Gods) post.

Their purpose is to help us grow spiritually and teach us, not merely as giftgivers or businessmen for selfish purposes. And they only help and teach their dedicated Spiritual Satanist disciples and not outsiders. In fact if the only thing you're interested in is music and not spiritual progress and taking Spiritual Satanism seriously, then click the red "x" button in the top right part of the browser window and never come back again unless you change your mind and be interested and transforming and empowering your soul, learning the truth and gaining knowledge and being serious and committed to these.



--- In , "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@ wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?

 

[claudius]

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.templeofzeus.org

Hail Satan Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTNFrom: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@... Sender: Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49 -0000To: ReplyTo: Subject: Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)
  New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Not if he's not dedicated.

--- In , "claudius" <claudiuslawal@... wrote:

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.templeofzeus.org

Hail Satan
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-----Original Message-----
From: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@...
Sender:
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49
To:
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Subject: Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?

 

[rubicante_xi]

I know that the high-ranking god, Azazel ,could help you with your musical pursuits. But you will have to do power meditations and open your chakras(our energy centers). I also advise studying the Joy Of Satan website and other sites found in its 'Links' section. In the future, if you have a question for the E-Groups, be sure to use the search bar to find posts on the subject you want to know about. Good Luck.

Ave Lucifer and the Gods!

 

[hells666steward]

To answer your last 2 questions first: No.

...and No.


Welcome. Feel free to read www.templeofzeus.org if you like, as this will explain a lot to you, I think.


Just know this: The Gods have no time to sit around and teach someone about music, one-on-one. You have to pick up a book, read instructions, take lessons, etc. Besides, you wouldn't even be able to PERCEIVE a God if you weren't spiritually advanced enough.

Unless of course the God fully manifested in your presence.
Which would kill you instantly.

You seem to be here to get Gods to teach you music. Which is ok, I guess. Except that... they aren't going to do that. Why? Because they are in the middle of a war. They don't have time to waste.

The more fundamental issue is that Satanism is NOT about the Gods teaching you stuff that you could easily teach yourself. It sounds like you are very busy and I respect that. The Gods respect that, too. But you must also respect that they are very busy as well.

Satanism is about making yourself better through hard work over time.

Satanism is about meditating. There are LOTS of things I wish the gods would come and teach me, one-on-one. And I have certainly said so to them. But I don't expect them to actually do that. Why? First of all, because they are Gods. They don't really owe me a goddamn thing. But moreover, because they are busy. And because knowledge takes time to absorb.

Some of those things that I wanted the Gods to teach me, they have taught me. But not always in the way I thought they would. And usually the lesson only happened after I put some effort in on my own part. I read a book on a subject and a god whispers in my ear as I'm reading it, to help me understand something I would have missed. But this doesn't always happen because - like I said - they are busy.

Your interest in music is good, and Satan loves music. Satan created humanity, and gave us the ability to enjoy and create music in the first place. But you must understand that if you wanting to learn music is the only reason that you want to be a Satanist, then you probably shouldn't be a Satanist.

Go buy a music theory book instead.

I know it's a pain in the ass or whatever, but you gotta do what you gotta do, right?


HAIL SATAN!!

--- In , "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@... wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?

 

[hells666steward]

Actually, Gods very often assist people who are not dedicated.

It's how many of us wound up here in the first place -
or survived long enough to learn the Truth.


HAIL SATAN!!


...of course, dedication takes you to a whole new level.

--- In , "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

Not if he's not dedicated.

--- In , "claudius" <claudiuslawal@ wrote:

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.templeofzeus.org

Hail Satan
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-----Original Message-----
From: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@
Sender:
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49
To:
Reply-To:
Subject: Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?

 

[the_fire_starter666]

It's because you're talking about people who were Satanists in their past lives. It's the same as being dedicated. But I highly doubt a person who sees them as businessmen and doesn't want to join Zevism would have been with them in their past lives.

--- In , "hells666steward" <hells666steward@... wrote:

Actually, Gods very often assist people who are not dedicated.

It's how many of us wound up here in the first place -
or survived long enough to learn the Truth.


HAIL SATAN!!


...of course, dedication takes you to a whole new level.



--- In , "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Not if he's not dedicated.

--- In , "claudius" <claudiuslawal@ wrote:

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.templeofzeus.org

Hail Satan
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-----Original Message-----
From: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@
Sender:
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49
To:
Reply-To:
Subject: Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?

 

[karthikkashyap84]

From your post, I understand that your passion in life is music. That is appreciable. I also appreciate the fact that you are doing power meditation.

However, you cannot make a "pact with the demon" and no, it is not a business transaction. While it may sound glorious about "making a pact with the devil" or you may have heard about pop musicians all around the world who "sold their soul to the devil", this cannot be done here. The gods are not devil and neither father Satan is. While the gods may be willing to help you with the knowledge of music, when you say making a pact, it sounds derogatory (though unintentional). You need to understand that they deserve respect and deserve dedication along with your efforts (there is no magic pill to solve your problems unless you take action). So, if you are willing to embrace them from your heart and treat them as your teachers, yes, they can help you.

Dedication to father Satan shows that you have embraced him and his demons/gods from the heart.

--- In , "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@... wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?

 

[hells666steward]

Everyone is different.

You are making an ASSUMPTION.

Let him prove himself. Or disprove himself. Over time.

By your logic, no christian could ever become a Satanist.

That's incorrect. Obviously.


HAIL SATAN!!

--- In , "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

It's because you're talking about people who were Satanists in their past lives. It's the same as being dedicated. But I highly doubt a person who sees them as businessmen and doesn't want to join Zevism would have been with them in their past lives.

--- In , "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Actually, Gods very often assist people who are not dedicated.

It's how many of us wound up here in the first place -
or survived long enough to learn the Truth.


HAIL SATAN!!


...of course, dedication takes you to a whole new level.



--- In , "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Not if he's not dedicated.

--- In , "claudius" <claudiuslawal@ wrote:

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.templeofzeus.org

Hail Satan
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-----Original Message-----
From: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@
Sender:
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49
To:
Reply-To:
Subject: Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?

 

[the_fire_starter666]

What I was talking about in my previous post was not if he can become a Satanist or not, but whether he can get help if he's not dedicated and doesn't wanna dedicate. Those who get help and guided from the Gods if they are not dedicated are those who were Zevism in their past lives. Did you read his post where he asked if it's possible to make a business trade with the Gods without committing to Zevism??What do you make of this?? That's what he wants to do, otherwise he wouldn't be asking of this.

--- In , "hells666steward" <hells666steward@... wrote:

Everyone is different.

You are making an ASSUMPTION.

Let him prove himself. Or disprove himself. Over time.

By your logic, no christian could ever become a Satanist.

That's incorrect. Obviously.


HAIL SATAN!!


--- In , "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

It's because you're talking about people who were Satanists in their past lives. It's the same as being dedicated. But I highly doubt a person who sees them as businessmen and doesn't want to join Zevism would have been with them in their past lives.

--- In , "hells666steward" <hells666steward@ wrote:

Actually, Gods very often assist people who are not dedicated.

It's how many of us wound up here in the first place -
or survived long enough to learn the Truth.


HAIL SATAN!!


...of course, dedication takes you to a whole new level.



--- In , "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

Not if he's not dedicated.

--- In , "claudius" <claudiuslawal@ wrote:

You can summon Amdusisas .or check him up on www.templeofzeus.org

Hail Satan
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-----Original Message-----
From: "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@
Sender:
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:49
To:
Reply-To:
Subject: Make a deal with a Demon? (+Beginner questions)

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?

 

[Don1]

The daily meditations will develop your talents in this area. Along with opening you up more to communicate directly with the Gods.

However dedication ritual is required. Not to be rude but you need to understand the point of this path is to spiritually advance. The Gods are the original Guru's. All comes out of this. So by your dedication you ask for help on your subject. But as a loyal and spiritual advancing, being.

Interesting enough if you advance far enough you will find they had a whole exact, musical form to explain the entire metaphyisical functioning of the universe and the perfection of the human.

--- In , "tobisripper" <TobisRipper@... wrote:

New to this forum. 20 years in age. Unconfirmed religion.

I am an idividual who is all about the art. I've been writing music for 7 years and Currently studying Concept (visual) Art in College.

Now, I've been studying music on my own, there were no toutors, or books in my study history as opposed to the visual art where as I am in a classroom and always have guidance. I have learned a lot on my own but there is so much more that I need to learn before I can fully express myself through music. It is my hobby and life-long desire. The only problem is that there is so much more that I am doing in life that I feel like I will not be able to fully develop all my hobbies in all directions.

I am curretly doing Music Composing, Visual Arts, Video Game Development, Creative Wring (scripts, stories) Film (Series and Feature Film) Animation, Online Commics, Visual Effects. 3D animation. That is just the tip of the icebert. Each positon demands a near life-time worth of commitment to become a professional.

I am only asking for one thing - Music. I would like to aks a demon for knowledge in Music Theory, Harmony, Orchestration, Arrangement, Classical Composition for Guitar and Piano... Singing - that I am going to be paying for lessons out of my own pocket for that one as it requires training of your body (vocal chors and diaphrahm). I have some ideas to propose to the demon that will aid his exposure. I realize that I have to take my time and prepare through power meditation before I can even attempt to perform a ritual. Now don't get me wrong, I might sound like a lazy ass for not wanting to open a book on harmony but as I said, that would mean my sacrafice to the other art forms. If for some reason this can not be achieved, perhaps a dedicated pledge for wealth under a condition that the fund would only be used to study my desired subjects like toutors and courses.

Another Question: Can you contact the demon without pledging your allegiance to the Satanism? I mean make a deal with the demon like a business transaction?