Magic for Getting sexual fetishes in reality.

[Satanfire666]

Vibrate Gebo 108 + color red on the girl.

Using gebo with red means that it will get you the passionat love aspect of red, because gebo rule over love and sex and unwanted obligations, you could also use it on girlfriend or wife to get a blowjob or anal because anal is forbiden in islam even for married people, well blowjobs are another story but they are not forbbiden, this may work with extreme things too, just don't harm yourself or others.


You could also use gebo with red on yourself with an affirmation to attract unlimitied taboo sex and romantic love adventures but in a postitive and healthy way for your existince. You could also use it to attract married women and make them divorce with thier husbands. But the last one is risky on the long term unless if you know how to deal with the counsequneses.


Note: if you have a fetish and you don't satisfy it you will not advance at all.

Thank you. :mrgreen:

 

[StyleCoin]

The mantra AUM KLIM KAMADEVAYA NAMAH is more appropriate.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Vibrate Gebo 108 + color red on the girl.

Using gebo with red means that it will get you the passionat love aspect of red, because gebo rule over love and sex and unwanted obligations, you could also use it on girlfriend or wife to get a blowjob or anal because anal is forbiden in islam even for married people, well blowjobs are another story but they are not forbbiden, this may work with extreme things too, just don't harm yourself or others.


You could also use gebo with red on yourself with an affirmation to attract unlimitied taboo sex and romantic love adventures but in a postitive and healthy way for your existince. You could also use it to attract married women and make them divorce with thier husbands. But the last one is risky on the long term unless if you know how to deal with the counsequneses.


Note: if you have a fetish and you don't satisfy it you will not advance at all.

Thank you. :mrgreen:

Fuck all this stuff just do a working to find someone of a similar nature to you and that is into stuff you are. This isn't Islam either. This kind of sounds like a violation of free will. Ok if someone you know used to be into something you really like go for it they will probably really enjoy this too since it's often hang ups that make people different these days so your working will probably help them in other ways but if they are not and never were this is a violation of free will and should not be done. I don't think using magick to make people do things they don't want to is cool. Neither is forcing someone to divorce someone or cheat with you.

I am not saying having a fetish is bad btw either most Scorpio people do just that free will should be respected.

 

[FancyMancy]

"The Girl"? Non-monogamous/non-monoamourous & non-heterosexuality also exist and are also Natural.

 

[Satanfire666]

"The Girl"? Non-monogamous/non-monoamourous & non-heterosexuality also exist and are also Natural.

Calm down. i just gave an example.. If Your gay/lesbian/bi/trans you could do whatever you want.

 

[Satanfire666]

Note: if you have a fetish and you don't satisfy it you will not advance at all.

I believe fetishes are caused by underlying mental problems and tend to act as a powerful coping mechanism. In my experience, certain fetishes disappeared when I overcame the underlying issues that caused them. I don't think it's uncommon for that to happen, therefore I think just meditating and solving the issues that the fetish stems from is also a fine way to advance.
If the underlying issue cannot be overcome, then perhaps there is truth in your words. However, I think any mental problem can be overcome in Satanism, so long as one wants to overcome it.

On a side note, I don't think wanting a blowjob counts as a fetish... I think a bit of variation here and there to spice things up is perfectly healthy, so long as it's hygienic and safe. But if you want something like that, then perhaps you should also offer doing something that's pleasurable for your partner in return. Otherwise it may be a bit one-sided, I think.

Yeah i like doing cunnilingus too, but here in saudi arabia many women disagree on oral sex just to know because they think it came from the west lol

 

[darkmonkey666]

Note: if you have a fetish and you don't satisfy it you will not advance at all.

I believe fetishes are caused by underlying mental problems and tend to act as a powerful coping mechanism. In my experience, certain fetishes disappeared when I overcame the underlying issues that caused them. I don't think it's uncommon for that to happen, therefore I think just meditating and solving the issues that the fetish stems from is also a fine way to advance.
If the underlying issue cannot be overcome, then perhaps there is truth in your words. However, I think any mental problem can be overcome in Satanism, so long as one wants to overcome it.

On a side note, I don't think wanting a blowjob counts as a fetish... I think a bit of variation here and there to spice things up is perfectly healthy, so long as it's hygienic and safe. But if you want something like that, then perhaps you should also offer doing something that's pleasurable for your partner in return. Otherwise it may be a bit one-sided, I think.

Fetishes are not bad all the time. I believe it was said before by several even the Gods did some things some times.

The thing is yes a fetish can have a negative meaning and reason. But it also could have a positive complex behind it too. Like someone associates something with being spiritual or being more free or something or more natural or something familiar from early life or a past life. Especially for cancer. If some scent especially in my experience (maybe even an inscence or perfume) or some item or something is really familiar they may find it sexual too. However in a negative sense maybe this sign seems to be attracted to things dealing with childhood. This could go wrong (in a degenerate world or bad things) or not be bad at all. It deals with the mothering instinct and having children etc. I did notice this and want to comment on it. Scorpio too that is a sign obviously attracted to fetishes some of them can be more darker or even bsdm but not all the time or they just like being kinky. In fact I am sure here there are a lot of people attracted to people being more natural in some way because in the ancient times this was the way people were and it could end up as a fetish this obviously isn't bad. I won't go through all signs but all of them do have fetishes sometimes. Sagittarius would be doing stuff outdoors or in the forest or the knees legs etc. Take time to read through any astrology site I don't think this stuff is bad unless it is degenerate or hurts someone or has a negative mindset behind it. Some things may be impossible to do without a negative or enemy mindset these are things to stay away from and work to not be attracted too but not all stuff is bad.

Fetishes dont always have to be negative. It is only negative if it is something that hurts someone or is using some mental complex that is bad or of the enemy.

If the mental complex behind a fetish is positive no amount of healing will change it fully but if negative working to overcome it will likely make it go away.

 

[Henu the Great]

Could you give some examples of fetishes with purely positive mental complexes behind them?

I usually use the word "fetish" to refer to sexual preferences I deem unnatural (so not caused by a person's astrology, but rather things like trauma and complexes), and consider other sexual preferences and things people like to just be a normal and natural part of their sexuality. "Fetish" has a bit of a negative connotation to it imo; kind of like calling something a disorder. I don't like labelling everything that's a bit unusual in such a way.

Fetish does not need to be negative.

I like women with their socks or shoes on while doing it. How negative is that, huh?

 

[darkmonkey666]

I believe fetishes are caused by underlying mental problems and tend to act as a powerful coping mechanism. In my experience, certain fetishes disappeared when I overcame the underlying issues that caused them. I don't think it's uncommon for that to happen, therefore I think just meditating and solving the issues that the fetish stems from is also a fine way to advance.
If the underlying issue cannot be overcome, then perhaps there is truth in your words. However, I think any mental problem can be overcome in Satanism, so long as one wants to overcome it.

On a side note, I don't think wanting a blowjob counts as a fetish... I think a bit of variation here and there to spice things up is perfectly healthy, so long as it's hygienic and safe. But if you want something like that, then perhaps you should also offer doing something that's pleasurable for your partner in return. Otherwise it may be a bit one-sided, I think.

Fetishes are not bad all the time. I believe it was said before by several even the Gods did some things some times.

The thing is yes a fetish can have a negative meaning and reason. But it also could have a positive complex behind it too. Like someone associates something with being spiritual or being more free or something or more natural or something familiar from early life or a past life. Especially for cancer. If some scent especially in my experience (maybe even an inscence or perfume) or some item or something is really familiar they may find it sexual too. However in a negative sense maybe this sign seems to be attracted to things dealing with childhood. This could go wrong (in a degenerate world or bad things) or not be bad at all. It deals with the mothering instinct and having children etc. I did notice this and want to comment on it. Scorpio too that is a sign obviously attracted to fetishes some of them can be more darker or even bsdm but not all the time or they just like being kinky. In fact I am sure here there are a lot of people attracted to people being more natural in some way because in the ancient times this was the way people were and it could end up as a fetish this obviously isn't bad. I won't go through all signs but all of them do have fetishes sometimes. Sagittarius would be doing stuff outdoors or in the forest or the knees legs etc. Take time to read through any astrology site I don't think this stuff is bad unless it is degenerate or hurts someone or has a negative mindset behind it. Some things may be impossible to do without a negative or enemy mindset these are things to stay away from and work to not be attracted too but not all stuff is bad.

Fetishes dont always have to be negative. It is only negative if it is something that hurts someone or is using some mental complex that is bad or of the enemy.

If the mental complex behind a fetish is positive no amount of healing will change it fully but if negative working to overcome it will likely make it go away.

Could you give some examples of fetishes with purely positive mental complexes behind them?

I usually use the word "fetish" to refer to sexual preferences I deem unnatural (so not caused by a person's astrology, but rather things like trauma and complexes), and consider other sexual preferences and things people like to just be a normal and natural part of their sexuality. "Fetish" has a bit of a negative connotation to it imo; kind of like calling something a disorder. I don't like labelling everything that's a bit unusual in such a way.

Well only to people that are a little programmed still does it purely mean negative. Ok the examples can go to just about anything and everything with this. Let's say someone likes the knees of someone and their knees being rubbed or licking the knees of someone. May be weird but not harmful and I heard of this one before or someone likes peoples feet (that is a more pieces one) and gets aroused in some way over this. Or someone likes eating food off someone in their sexual areas that's a fetish also common is people liking the natural scent of others or being rubbed and touched physically or anything dealing with the physical senses (capricorn). I am not going to name anything here anyone may find controversial cause I don't mean to start an argument but these are some of the more basic ones.

These all would be considered fetishes by many. None of these are harmful.

I think people need to get some of the Jewish porn ideals out of their head with this yeah a lot of that is really bad but it's being pushed it's an instinct to like certain things like this that is a fetish. I can't name one person who doesn't have something that turns them on or they like.

Even some of the more Jewish or controversial stuff if it had a positive instinct behind it or natural instinct behind it I don't judge at all. However I know most the time it doesn't.

To be honest for the most part as long as it's not race mixing something to do with children or animals or something that hurts people badly/is non consenting the Gods don't care in my experience. Maybe some of them even like it themselves you never know :lol:

But anyways it's not enemy to have fetishes it's enemy what some of the fetishes are that are pushed. Such as degrading someone making people into animals rape fantasys I could go on.
That is the stuff we need to do away with not fetishes themselves as they are actually natural.

 

[darkmonkey666]

I believe fetishes are caused by underlying mental problems and tend to act as a powerful coping mechanism. In my experience, certain fetishes disappeared when I overcame the underlying issues that caused them. I don't think it's uncommon for that to happen, therefore I think just meditating and solving the issues that the fetish stems from is also a fine way to advance.
If the underlying issue cannot be overcome, then perhaps there is truth in your words. However, I think any mental problem can be overcome in Satanism, so long as one wants to overcome it.

On a side note, I don't think wanting a blowjob counts as a fetish... I think a bit of variation here and there to spice things up is perfectly healthy, so long as it's hygienic and safe. But if you want something like that, then perhaps you should also offer doing something that's pleasurable for your partner in return. Otherwise it may be a bit one-sided, I think.

Fetishes are not bad all the time. I believe it was said before by several even the Gods did some things some times.

The thing is yes a fetish can have a negative meaning and reason. But it also could have a positive complex behind it too. Like someone associates something with being spiritual or being more free or something or more natural or something familiar from early life or a past life. Especially for cancer. If some scent especially in my experience (maybe even an inscence or perfume) or some item or something is really familiar they may find it sexual too. However in a negative sense maybe this sign seems to be attracted to things dealing with childhood. This could go wrong (in a degenerate world or bad things) or not be bad at all. It deals with the mothering instinct and having children etc. I did notice this and want to comment on it. Scorpio too that is a sign obviously attracted to fetishes some of them can be more darker or even bsdm but not all the time or they just like being kinky. In fact I am sure here there are a lot of people attracted to people being more natural in some way because in the ancient times this was the way people were and it could end up as a fetish this obviously isn't bad. I won't go through all signs but all of them do have fetishes sometimes. Sagittarius would be doing stuff outdoors or in the forest or the knees legs etc. Take time to read through any astrology site I don't think this stuff is bad unless it is degenerate or hurts someone or has a negative mindset behind it. Some things may be impossible to do without a negative or enemy mindset these are things to stay away from and work to not be attracted too but not all stuff is bad.

Fetishes dont always have to be negative. It is only negative if it is something that hurts someone or is using some mental complex that is bad or of the enemy.

If the mental complex behind a fetish is positive no amount of healing will change it fully but if negative working to overcome it will likely make it go away.

Could you give some examples of fetishes with purely positive mental complexes behind them?

I usually use the word "fetish" to refer to sexual preferences I deem unnatural (so not caused by a person's astrology, but rather things like trauma and complexes), and consider other sexual preferences and things people like to just be a normal and natural part of their sexuality. "Fetish" has a bit of a negative connotation to it imo; kind of like calling something a disorder. I don't like labelling everything that's a bit unusual in such a way.

It's not that I don't agree with you that some things are just sick and wrong it's that I want people to understand this is more a natural inclination for many so it should not be looked down upon as we do need to free humanity and become more in line with nature as a species.

The Yehuborim are the ones pushing horrible stuff with this. If not for them the whole thing would be more natural and clean and good and likely some never would be a fetish for anyone to begin with.

 

[Henu the Great]

I'm sorry for calling you a shoe fetishist, Henu.

:lol:

I've never thought about it like that, but technically, that's true. No need to say sorry.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Well only to people that are a little programmed still does it purely mean negative. Ok the examples can go to just about anything and everything with this. Let's say someone likes the knees of someone and their knees being rubbed or licking the knees of someone. May be weird but not harmful and I heard of this one before or someone likes peoples feet (that is a more pieces one) and gets aroused in some way over this. Or someone likes eating food off someone in their sexual areas that's a fetish also common is people liking the natural scent of others or being rubbed and touched physically or anything dealing with the physical senses (capricorn). I am not going to name anything here anyone may find controversial cause I don't mean to start an argument but these are some of the more basic ones.

These all would be considered fetishes by many. None of these are harmful.

I think people need to get some of the Jewish porn ideals out of their head with this yeah a lot of that is really bad but it's being pushed it's an instinct to like certain things like this that is a fetish. I can't name one person who doesn't have something that turns them on or they like.

Even some of the more Jewish or controversial stuff if it had a positive instinct behind it or natural instinct behind it I don't judge at all. However I know most the time it doesn't.

To be honest for the most part as long as it's not race mixing something to do with children or animals or something that hurts people badly/is non consenting the Gods don't care in my experience. Maybe some of them even like it themselves you never know :lol:

But anyways it's not enemy to have fetishes it's enemy what some of the fetishes are that are pushed. Such as degrading someone making people into animals rape fantasys I could go on.
That is the stuff we need to do away with not fetishes themselves as they are actually natural.

I've never heard of anyone who's obsessed with knees so it's not a realistic example, and I think a foot fetish actually is associated with a negative mental complex in most cases, although it depends on the degree and the way it's expressed. As for eating food off your partner, who doesn't like that once in a while to spice things up? I think it only counts as a fetish when it's necessary to do it almost every time in order to get off; otherwise it's just normal fun and adventurous behaviour.

You mentioned programming, but I actually used to think it was "normal" for people to have strange fetishes, even degenerate ones. My reasoning was that there's a lot of weird porn out there (just consider how much furry drawings there are, when that is completely abnormal and unnatural for humans to be into), therefore there's a lot of people who like that kind of stuff, therefore it's "normal".

It's after I started meditating that my own sexual preferences became remarkably normal and I noticed how much better I felt that way, which led me to the conclusion that a healthy sexuality without corruptions tends to be surprisingly normal by my standards.
Just like some people may be programmed to believe sexual exploration is depraved, I realised that there's an equal amount of programming to try and make people overly lenient towards abnormal and potentially mentally unhealthy sexual preferences that people have because "it's just their fetish", and you don't want to "kinkshame" now do you?

Do you understand where I'm coming from with that argument? You don't have to call everything that's a bit unusual and exciting a fetish. That should simply be called sexual exploration and having preferences.

For me, this argument is more about semantics than judging what's normal or not. I disagree with the mentality of putting labels on things that I believe to be perfectly normal.

It's not that I don't agree with you that some things are just sick and wrong it's that I want people to understand this is more a natural inclination for many so it should not be looked down upon as we do need to free humanity and become more in line with nature as a species.

The Yehuborim are the ones pushing horrible stuff with this. If not for them the whole thing would be more natural and clean and good and likely some never would be a fetish for anyone to begin with.

I agree. It's good for people to realise that a lot of things are really natural even if they're unusual, but there's also a lot of things that really aren't natural at all and come from enemy influences and other negative things.

My opinion is that those things should not be fall into the same category or described using the same word.

Your hang up is you think everything should be kind of "normal" and plain that is not seen anywhere in nature outside of cattle and sheep. Many people would get bored by this.

 

[Henu the Great]

Hey Meteor, have you read Venus in the signs and houses in the Azazels astro?

 

[Henu the Great]

Oh, so the discussion is actually more about semantics rather than anything else.

Never mind then, please continue.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Just in case my point was still misunderstood, I'll provide more context about how I reached my conclusions.

Since puberty started for me, I became interested in sexual things. However, nothing I tried satisfied me. It always felt like something was missing.
Gradually I began to resort to desperate measures in an attempt to find anything at all; I just hoped I could finally find something that worked. But nothing did. Even so, I continued, and in the process, my interests began to become warped and bizarre.
I never really stuck to one fetish for more than maybe a few weeks or in a few cases months, because once again, nothing ever satisfied me. So over the course of many years, I ended up trying almost anything, even things I would rather not remember. But nothing worked, which led to a vicious cycle.

I knew vaguely what I was missing, but not how to attain it. That is, until I found this path.
Shortly after I came to this path and started meditating, my GD showed me a solution to my problem, which I was able to bring into reality as I advanced more. After that, I was able to find true satisfaction for the first time in my life simply by having plain, love-filled sex; to me, it stood out as unremarkable compared to everything I had tried up until then, and yet it was the only thing that had ever satisfied me after all these years. In that sense, it was remarkably unremarkable.

In the exploration I've done back in the day, I found many things which were depraved, but also many fun, clean and perfectly healthy ways to spice up sexual activities. I'm not sufficiently invested in any of them for me to consider them my fetish; rather, I want everything, spontaneously, whenever I feel like it, although not all at once.
All that means, is that I know what I like and that I'm free. The way my sexuality is now is the way I believe a person's sexuality should normally be: unrestricted, interesting, clean and mentally healthy.
If someone called my natural interests and the freedom with which I express them a dozen fetishes, I would absolutely take it as an insult. That would be no different from saying there's something abnormal about the way I naturally am. It would also reinforce the idea that it isn't normal for people to be adventurous in sex, which is precisely the mentality I want people to be free from. People should just do whatever turns them on, so long as it isn't mentally or physically unhealthy or unsafe.

I understand your point of encouraging people to accept and embrace what they may consider their fetishes. However, my stance is that these things are not fetishes. Most people would have a perfectly normal sexuality in my opinion even if they expressed it freely.
I want people to realise that there's nothing wrong with their preferences (so long as it's natural and healthy), and that there's no need to label it as a fetish unless it's truly abnormal and something they should cure themselves of.

Hey Meteor, have you read Venus in the signs and houses in the Azazels astro?

The definitions of the words "fetish" and "paraphilia" include the words "abnormal" and "atypical".
But Henu, even if you like it when women wear socks or shoes, I do not think that makes you abnormal in the slightest. I know what it looks like when a person's sexuality is truly abnormal. Everything on the page about Venus in the signs and houses is perfectly within normal bounds; I disagree that any of it should be called a fetish by anyone.

Then this is a completely different thing than what I am talking about dealing with some other hang up or problem. A fetish is something someone does consistently that turns them on a lot more than regular things. You don't sound like you had that to begin with but some other issue.

 

[FancyMancy]

"The Girl"? Non-monogamous/non-monoamourous & non-heterosexuality also exist and are also Natural.

Do you need to always bring this up? I don't think OP meant to insinuate that those things aren't natural, and was just speaking from his own perspective.
Although if you just enjoy bringing it up then I don't mind and I apologise for bothering you.
It seemed a little random, but then again, maybe it's good for people to have a reminder here and there so they don't just accidentally forget someday and decide purge the gays again on a whim. Better safe than sorry, right?

"The Girl"? Non-monogamous/non-monoamourous & non-heterosexuality also exist and are also Natural.

Calm down. i just gave an example.. If Your gay/lesbian/bi/trans you could do whatever you want.

I'm calm and I was when I made that post. Do others always need to ignore or forget it? Not-just-heterosexual/monogamous/monoamourous relationships are not only "welcome" here but we are for Nature, which includes these. People seeing this repeatedly would think it's straight, mono-relationships only. Is it also annoying that I specify "Gods and Goddesses", as opposed to merely "Gods", which most others here do? There are advanced Females in the pantheon, also, as well as e.g. HPS Pythia who is a Female; therefore, will be a Goddess one day. I don't bother to take notice of remembering whether anyone is straight or bi or gay, for each username, so a simple "I'm straight" or "from my heterosexual perspective", for example, might also help.

 

[Jack]

"The Girl"? Non-monogamous/non-monoamourous & non-heterosexuality also exist and are also Natural.

Do you need to always bring this up? I don't think OP meant to insinuate that those things aren't natural, and was just speaking from his own perspective.
Although if you just enjoy bringing it up then I don't mind and I apologise for bothering you.
It seemed a little random, but then again, maybe it's good for people to have a reminder here and there so they don't just accidentally forget someday and decide purge the gays again on a whim. Better safe than sorry, right?

"The Girl"? Non-monogamous/non-monoamourous & non-heterosexuality also exist and are also Natural.

Calm down. i just gave an example.. If Your gay/lesbian/bi/trans you could do whatever you want.

I'm calm and I was when I made that post. Do others always need to ignore or forget it? Not-just-heterosexual/monogamous/monoamourous relationships are not only "welcome" here but we are for Nature, which includes these. People seeing this repeatedly would think it's straight, mono-relationships only. Is it also annoying that I specify "Gods and Goddesses", as opposed to merely "Gods", which most others here do? There are advanced Females in the pantheon, also, as well as e.g. HPS Pythia who is a Female; therefore, will be a Goddess one day. I don't bother to take notice of remembering whether anyone is straight or bi or gay, for each username, so a simple "I'm straight" or "from my heterosexual perspective", for example, might also help.

This is just bullshit nomenclature from Intersectionality to create dissonance and confusion and undue conflict. It came out of Feminism ,which came out of the CIA through the Frankfurt School.

No one cares if you're gay, bi ,straight or Male, female. People with lack of achievement in their personal lives identity with elements that they can borrow status from. Its called Biological Leninism where a group of losers come together and believe they are strong and special because of some vague identity they have.

"Oh look im a woman. Im so oppressed, look at me in my cubicle. These men staring at my boobs, these pigs. I just posted this sentiment on Instagram. Im so special. "

When you say "Gods" ,everyone knows you're already including all the Goddesses within. Only Autistic people or someone with grammar OCD would be harping on constantly about this nomenclature stuff.

 

[NinRick]

Do you need to always bring this up? I don't think OP meant to insinuate that those things aren't natural, and was just speaking from his own perspective.
Although if you just enjoy bringing it up then I don't mind and I apologise for bothering you.
It seemed a little random, but then again, maybe it's good for people to have a reminder here and there so they don't just accidentally forget someday and decide purge the gays again on a whim. Better safe than sorry, right?

Calm down. i just gave an example.. If Your gay/lesbian/bi/trans you could do whatever you want.

I'm calm and I was when I made that post. Do others always need to ignore or forget it? Not-just-heterosexual/monogamous/monoamourous relationships are not only "welcome" here but we are for Nature, which includes these. People seeing this repeatedly would think it's straight, mono-relationships only. Is it also annoying that I specify "Gods and Goddesses", as opposed to merely "Gods", which most others here do? There are advanced Females in the pantheon, also, as well as e.g. HPS Pythia who is a Female; therefore, will be a Goddess one day. I don't bother to take notice of remembering whether anyone is straight or bi or gay, for each username, so a simple "I'm straight" or "from my heterosexual perspective", for example, might also help.

This is just bullshit nomenclature from Intersectionality to create dissonance and confusion and undue conflict. It came out of Feminism ,which came out of the CIA through the Frankfurt School.

No one cares if you're gay, bi ,straight or Male, female. People with lack of achievement in their personal lives identity with elements that they can borrow status from. Its called Biological Leninism where a group of losers come together and believe they are strong and special because of some vague identity they have.

"Oh look im a woman. Im so oppressed, look at me in my cubicle. These men staring at my boobs, these pigs. I just posted this sentiment on Instagram. Im so special. "

When you say "Gods" ,everyone knows you're already including all the Goddesses within. Only Autistic people or someone with grammar OCD would be harping on constantly about this nomenclature stuff.

I wanted to ask you this.. What do you think about gay people? Or people who want to change gender etc.
FancyMancy said „natural“, however, I don’t think that they are „natural“.

You don’t see gay animals that much, gay beings don’t procreate and thus they never give their genes to the next generation.

Also, if someone who is gay for example, would advance that much that their serpent is risen... would this person stop being gay?
Would this person become straight?

I mean as we advance we transform our Souls but also our Bodies.. so it would make sense, that those people would become straight, right?
(Sometime ago I read that gay people are gay because their genes are a bit different.)

When I said that being gay is not natural, I meant it, as in nature you need male and female parts to create another being, also the soul has male and female aspects.

But I do believe that 95% of people who are gay will become straight, once they reach a certain point in advancement...

Next question, trans people... are they able to advance as far as they like and still stay with the mindset of a trans person? Maybe this is just a gigantic hang up, which prevents you to advance after a certain point, or makes it way harder... or even it will make you go insane if you proceed... should those people advance as all other people, or should they try to get rid of the idea to turn into the opposite gender.. and well accept as they are? I actually think so, or else they will probably suffer and stagnate.

I just wanted to hear your honest opinion about this Jack.

 

[Jack]

Jack, do you remember when we talked about logic a while ago? I realised that you were right about that.
I used to think that so long as the logic is sound, one can deduce anything and everything in this world, and come to understand it all.
Even as I encountered things I couldn't figure out with just logic, I believed it was just because my logic wasn't good enough yet.
But lately, sometimes I just suddenly see something, like suddenly "knowing" it, and come to understand things that I was never able to understand before with logic. Sometimes it feels hard to even put such things into words in a way that someone else would understand, and yet I know it with such clarity.

I wonder if you went through something similar? When I was new to these forums I noticed that you sometimes got into heated arguments with people, and I had the impression that you were onto something but just weren't really sure how to put it into words in a way that others were able to properly understand.
If that's the case, then I really want to applaud you for getting so much better at it. Others have said so before as well, but I think the things you write are much more comprehensible these days.

Anyway, I just wanted to tell you that you were right about that. I'm still clinging to my logic most of the time, but I'm gradually learning that sometimes it really does fall short and there's a better way to truly understand things. It's more like "seeing" than "thinking".

Well our Logic evolves over time right, from Childhood to Adulthood. But the world outside is the same. Conscious Logic is bound by our own self - how much understanding or knowledge you have about the particular topic at that particular time. Then the things you see outside will filter through this alleged understanding, to a conclusion. Sometimes that conclusion changes as you become more mature or you have new information.

But whereas our conscious logic is bound to our own ability as a concious human ,that might not be the complete truth. Sometimes we aren't able to comprehend something so we fall back to our biases in order to feel safe. There are things that are just there and there is no logical explanation for them at the particular stage of logic that humans are at.

But that doesn't mean those things go away. The consciousness field ,the Brahman has all the answers because it just is and will continue to be a testament as it is. If you just tune into it, it will give you all the answers i.e if you have the capability to comprehend it. But sometimes your bandwidth and router connections are mismatched and you instead tune into some other things ,where the enemy can show you a lot of falsehoods to control you. Practice and discernment is key.

In order to see truth, you have to suspend logic that is to say you have to suspend Judgment. The best way to do that is go into trance. And when you're going into a deep trance ,you need to fix awareness onto a single spot whether it be a symbol or some visualization otherwise the awareness will drift as you enter into dream state.

I visualize my consciousness as a miniature sun as i go deeper into trance and you need to hold onto it until you enter really really deep ,where your in a dream state but you have control still. There you simply need to look at things and the answers will cone to you as you've successfully suspended logic and isolated the Ego. This needs a lot of trial and error to perfect. Sometimes you just drift off and sometimes you get wrong answers from the wrong consciousness fields. But at a point like anything else, you'll be able to master it as humans are wont to do. Sometimes we can't accept the answers we get because it might be really uncomfortable to our ego. And is called killing parts of yourself. As you accept truth and reject your own biases and false ego association's may it be with emotions or logic, you are killing parts of yourself. This is similar to what happens when you get over childhood trauma. You accept what happened to you by acknowledging it and being at ease with it, and then it stops affecting you and you're no longer controlled by those negative emotions. You have essentially killed that self that was controlled by the occurrences in their childhood and you are now born anew. This happens to everyone in their lives,and they go through the process of maturing. Those who cling to the Negative Ego are prolonging their suffering as they reject change. When you're in tune with nature you just have to let go as it heals and solves all your problems by showing you how to fix this. Nature might be a wrong word, the correct word is when your in tune with the Gods and our lord.

 

[NinRick]

Although you were asking Jack, I hope you don't mind if I reply as well since I think it's an interesting topic.

If you think that's the case for 95% of them, then what do you think the remaining 5% are like? Just curious.

Thanks for your open view about that.
I did not think too deeply about it to be honest, I was just curious, as it seems that we have a fair share of trans people here.
I just did not want to say that that's the case for ALL of them. But if this has something to do with genetics, then it would make sense, that it would fade away after they advance more, as our DNA should also change, better.

Spiritual and Physical perfection - then this would mean (my view of this) that those people will have the urge and ability to procreate, naturally.

Well we could ask them whether or not they've hit a wall? xD
All for scientific purpose of course!

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Okay I see, I also thought that those people will either hit a wall, or go insane if they proceed. I mean literally go insane...

Thanks for the input Jack. I have nothing against gay or trans people to be clear, it is just that I thought recently about it.
And since people told me that being gay is due to some DNA-Mutation, I thought that virtually all people will turn straight as they rise the serpent or perform the MO. Just a little thought and mind experiment I had.

Of course it is importantto accept yourself for WHAT you are, if you love women, then accept it and be proud of it.
If you love men, then accept it and be proud of it.

 

[FancyMancy]

Do you need to always bring this up? I don't think OP meant to insinuate that those things aren't natural, and was just speaking from his own perspective.
Although if you just enjoy bringing it up then I don't mind and I apologise for bothering you.
It seemed a little random, but then again, maybe it's good for people to have a reminder here and there so they don't just accidentally forget someday and decide purge the gays again on a whim. Better safe than sorry, right?

Calm down. i just gave an example.. If Your gay/lesbian/bi/trans you could do whatever you want.

I'm calm and I was when I made that post. Do others always need to ignore or forget it? Not-just-heterosexual/monogamous/monoamourous relationships are not only "welcome" here but we are for Nature, which includes these. People seeing this repeatedly would think it's straight, mono-relationships only. Is it also annoying that I specify "Gods and Goddesses", as opposed to merely "Gods", which most others here do? There are advanced Females in the pantheon, also, as well as e.g. HPS Pythia who is a Female; therefore, will be a Goddess one day. I don't bother to take notice of remembering whether anyone is straight or bi or gay, for each username, so a simple "I'm straight" or "from my heterosexual perspective", for example, might also help.

I realised that as I was writing my reply. While for me it is obvious that homosexuality is natural and that women can be powerful, not everyone reading these forums comes from a place where they would've learned those things. So when they see an established member like you say these things so casually, they might realise: "oh, these things are perfectly normal and accepted here".

I disagree that people should label their perspectives though. Do I need to explain why?

Well, I would hope that people can see that it is not just accepted here, but that we realise that it is Natural and OK. Saying "it is accepted here" means "we give permission for this"; "permission" is nonsense for Natural things; if it's Natural, then it's eternal and inalienable, no matter how much others wish otherwise. While others forget or refuse to say "I'm straight, so this is a straight-orientated post", people don't see non-straight things and if they visit for 1 thread and don't realise non-straight is OK, then they might not return.

Do you need to always bring this up? I don't think OP meant to insinuate that those things aren't natural, and was just speaking from his own perspective.
Although if you just enjoy bringing it up then I don't mind and I apologise for bothering you.
It seemed a little random, but then again, maybe it's good for people to have a reminder here and there so they don't just accidentally forget someday and decide purge the gays again on a whim. Better safe than sorry, right?

Calm down. i just gave an example.. If Your gay/lesbian/bi/trans you could do whatever you want.

I'm calm and I was when I made that post. Do others always need to ignore or forget it? Not-just-heterosexual/monogamous/monoamourous relationships are not only "welcome" here but we are for Nature, which includes these. People seeing this repeatedly would think it's straight, mono-relationships only. Is it also annoying that I specify "Gods and Goddesses", as opposed to merely "Gods", which most others here do? There are advanced Females in the pantheon, also, as well as e.g. HPS Pythia who is a Female; therefore, will be a Goddess one day. I don't bother to take notice of remembering whether anyone is straight or bi or gay, for each username, so a simple "I'm straight" or "from my heterosexual perspective", for example, might also help.

This is just bullshit nomenclature from Intersectionality to create dissonance and confusion and undue conflict. It came out of Feminism ,which came out of the CIA through the Frankfurt School.

Nice, big words to try and improve your argument. Females are Goddesses, it's as simple as that. I don't care about bra-burning and Females going topless in front of Males because their Female nipples are also Natural. I call Those who are advanced Females Goddesses. You think that's bullshit - OK. Enjoy.

No one cares if you're gay, bi ,straight or Male, female. People with lack of achievement in their personal lives identity with elements that they can borrow status from. Its called Biological Leninism where a group of losers come together and believe they are strong and special because of some vague identity they have.

My sexuality, identity, and in-groups are not the point. The point has been made, and obviously ignored.

"Oh look im a woman. Im so oppressed, look at me in my cubicle. These men staring at my boobs, these pigs. I just posted this sentiment on Instagram. Im so special. "

When you say "Gods" ,everyone knows you're already including all the Goddesses within.

Do they? I can't speak for others, but I prefer to not infer things based on my own prejudices when it comes to important - and now, revolutionary - things. jew programmes are misogynistic; Paganism loves Males and Females. I say "Goddesses" specifically to speak for/to/about advanced Females directly, not to push/hide them away.

Only Autistic people or someone with grammar OCD would be harping on constantly about this nomenclature stuff.

You need to always be right, no matter what, and it makes you feel good when you correct others because they're always wrong and you're always right, but you don't read me complaining. Apparently, saying "Gods and Goddesses" is autistic or OCD-y, but saying "Gods" is not. Cool understanding. Pi =/= 3.14159...; it = 3, so let's work to that.

 

[NinRick]

for/to/about advanced Females directly, not to push/hide them away.

I will refer to our beloved Gods as to our „beloved Gods and Goddesses“, as I am pretty sure that should connect me more to our beloved Goddesses, which is very nice. =)

But „Gods“ also includes all genders. So you can not shame anybody for using „Gods“ to refer to all of our Gods and Goddesses of hell.

So you and Jack actually don’t have to agree. Each of you has their own views of things. We don’t all have to agree about everything, it is okay to believe in what YOU feel is right. It is also okay to change your views, as often you like.

 

[NinRick]

for/to/about advanced Females directly, not to push/hide them away.

I will refer to our beloved Gods as to our „beloved Gods and Goddesses“, as I am pretty sure that should connect me more to our beloved Goddesses, which is very nice. =)

But „Gods“ also includes all genders. So you can not shame anybody for using „Gods“ to refer to all of our Gods and Goddesses of hell.

So you and Jack actually don’t have to agree. Each of you has their own views of things. We don’t all have to agree about everything, it is okay to believe in what YOU feel is right. It is also okay to change your views, as often you like.

 

[NinRick]

I wanted to ask you this.. What do you think about gay people? Or people who want to change gender etc.
FancyMancy said „natural“, however, I don’t think that they are „natural“.

You don’t see gay animals that much, gay beings don’t procreate and thus they never give their genes to the next generation.

Also, if someone who is gay for example, would advance that much that their serpent is risen... would this person stop being gay?
Would this person become straight?

I mean as we advance we transform our Souls but also our Bodies.. so it would make sense, that those people would become straight, right?
(Sometime ago I read that gay people are gay because their genes are a bit different.)

When I said that being gay is not natural, I meant it, as in nature you need male and female parts to create another being, also the soul has male and female aspects.

But I do believe that 95% of people who are gay will become straight, once they reach a certain point in advancement...

Next question, trans people... are they able to advance as far as they like and still stay with the mindset of a trans person? Maybe this is just a gigantic hang up, which prevents you to advance after a certain point, or makes it way harder... or even it will make you go insane if you proceed... should those people advance as all other people, or should they try to get rid of the idea to turn into the opposite gender.. and well accept as they are? I actually think so, or else they will probably suffer and stagnate.

I just wanted to hear your honest opinion about this Jack.

Good thing we stopped speaking in private, then. That aside, I just wanted to let you know that creative power is not only having kids but also producing advancement for your community. When you don't have to dedicate a huge portion of your life to raising children, but can focus more on your career... think of that as the kind of contribution homosexual people give to the community. Neither of that does make any sexuality superior or inferior to another type of sexuality. They're just different. Like an apple is different from a pineapple but there's no objective evidence for either of them to be superior or inferior compared to the other. Only subjective things like "I love eating apples but I prefer my pineapples made into juice with coconut added"

I have thought about the topic more for myself and I think I have a better understanding now. Thank you for your in put Stormblood!

 

[Jack]

I realised that as I was writing my reply. While for me it is obvious that homosexuality is natural and that women can be powerful, not everyone reading these forums comes from a place where they would've learned those things. So when they see an established member like you say these things so casually, they might realise: "oh, these things are perfectly normal and accepted here".

I disagree that people should label their perspectives though. Do I need to explain why?

Well, I would hope that people can see that it is not just accepted here, but that we realise that it is Natural and OK. Saying "it is accepted here" means "we give permission for this"; "permission" is nonsense for Natural things; if it's Natural, then it's eternal and inalienable, no matter how much others wish otherwise. While others forget or refuse to say "I'm straight, so this is a straight-orientated post", people don't see non-straight things and if they visit for 1 thread and don't realise non-straight is OK, then they might not return.

I don't know if people would really react as strongly as you say to seeing someone write from a straight person's perspective, and I think people labelling themselves might have the side effect of imposing restrictions on their own thoughts and feelings. However, you do make a very interesting point.

I always told myself that power is all I need to live freely. Mental power, physical power, social power. If I can crush everything and everyone that opposes me in my personal affairs, then I can live freely without having to persuade any insolent fools that they shouldn't interfere with my life. And if I'm not strong enough yet, then I only have to avoid a confrontation until I'm stronger.

But honestly, such violent thoughts stress me out a little. Wouldn't it be nicer if people just understood each other more?

I convinced myself that if someone is facing discrimination, they should just become powerful enough to make that discrimination irrelevant and live freely in spite of it. But to this day, there are still places where homosexual teenagers are being murdered regularly by adults just for their inclinations. Did they deserve to die because they weren't strong enough to defend themselves? No... they didn't even stand a chance. It's not fair. It infuriates me so much!

So then, why am I allowing discrimination to happen under the pretense that those who are discriminated against should just be strong enough to be unaffected? Who am I to say anyone should have that level of strength, instead of longing for harmony and understanding? I'm starting to think that my way of thinking was wrong.

In another thread, Jack said that "transgenderism must be the red line which no one in society must accept; absolutely no one." I agree in the sense that I think being "trans" has become too much of a trend in society that is dragging too many people into it and harming them and in some cases the people around them. But on the other hand, I also heard of a user on these forums who has transitioned medically and has been dedicated and consistently meditating for over a decade. I'm sure that person is past caring what Jack has to say about it, but at the same time, don't Jack's words imply that this fellow Zevism should not be accepted here? Or that this individual shouldn't be allowed to live her life the way she wants?

Jack isn't always the best with phrasing things, so I might have misunderstood what he meant. It's common for him to focus on the general rule and leave exceptions out of the discussion for the sake of argument. But I'm starting to wonder if the way he put it was really wrong. While children should be protected from making mistakes, and people who act in an insane and entitled manner should not be tolerated, at a certain level of advancement what someone wishes to do is their own responsibility. And if they're happy about the decision they made and wish to continue, and don't cause problems for others, why should they be stopped? At that point they are only trying to live their own lives peacefully, what do they have to do anymore with any harmful trends in society? Even if they're so rare that their numbers would not make a difference to us in this war, who does Jack think he is to say they should not be accepted? See people for who they really are and judge them accordingly! There's nothing wrong with them being here and fighting on our side!

Similarly there's SouthernWhiteGentile saying that if he were in power, he would sterilise everyone who is mixed race instead of letting them have children with others who are genetically similar to them. He also said that short men shouldn't reproduce either.
There are dedicated mixed race people and short men with us, so who does this guy think he is to spout that vile shit about how other Zevism should live their lives? I simply ignored it because someone like him will never have the power to enforce any of that (who would follow such a cruel tyrant?), but what about short men or people who are mixed race reading it? What if they're emotionally vulnerable and it's difficult for them to ignore it and it makes them feel unwelcome here? Doesn't that make me a fool as well for not speaking out against his bullshit opinions to let these people know that they're welcome here despite their insecurities?

It's not fun to argue with people like that, but they're setting a really bad example. NinRick here even thought homosexuality isn't natural (which surprised me and perfectly proved your point), and now I wonder if it's because he read some of things Jack wrote on societal issues making people sexually confused. Discussion of such topics is perfectly fine, but I agree with you now that reminders that certain things are accepted here, and in many cases even natural, are also very important. Otherwise, poorly phrased or poorly-thought-through opinions will only breed and spread needless prejudice and stupid misunderstandings. While the strong won't be affected by the kind of environment that creates, I've decided that I don't want to contribute to it anymore; so I will stand up more for those I believe are unfairly discriminated against. Because after reading your post and thinking about it more, some people's lack of effort to understand what others are going through pisses me off way too much for me to ignore it anymore. I don't care anymore if that makes me seem hot-headed, annoying or pedantic to some people. All I care about is countering their flawed opinions.

Accepting Transgenders means accepting Jewish brainwashing and distortion of natural reality. No matter who a person is, we can't let our feelings of common cause stop us for standing up for what is right or just. We need to draw a red line and state that transgenderism is something we do not accept. It has nothing to do with accepting a person for who they are, because transgender is not a normal state of being.

You don't accept Schizophrenics ,Multiple Personality Disorder patients as "normal" similar to how you don't accept a man claiming he is a woman to be "normal" or "truth". In essence the force of the enemy is trying to subvert the natural order and is asking you to go along with it. They want your compliance to enact the anti human agenda. If enough people got over their personal fears and just said no ,then it would all be over.

Conflating Sexuality with Transgenderism is the biggest trick the yehuborim have pulled off. Transgenderism has nothing to do with Homosexuality, Bisexuality or any Sexuality for that matter. It is defined as an Identity issue ,as a psychological disorder where a person believes he is something different than who he really is. In fact Lesbians and Homosexuals are the biggest detractors of Transgenders because it distorts gender and now anyone csn claim to be a woman which minimizes Women's identity.

Transgenders are the biggest enemies of Women and Children and the ideology is aimed at targeting Children and defrauding women of their place in society.

It is a combination of Multiple Personality Disorder, Schizophrenia, Comorbid Dissociate Disorder and various other things meshed into one. Just as you don't accept A Multiple Personality Disorder person or a 30 year old man claiming to be a 5 year old girl to be "normal" ,you CANNOT IN GOOD FAITH UNDER NATURE accept Transgenders as NORMAL. That would mean you are going against your own biology and nature itself.

I don't know why all this discussion about Homosexuality keeps coming up all the time. One of my best friends who i found to be an exceptionally talented person is Stormblood. I've never had any issues with "accepting " Homosexuality, in fact I have made it clear in many threads explaining how its manifested itself in Nature and has no observable detrimental effects as opposed to transgenderism which is a serious national health issue.

I also don't believe in the BS of "live and let live". Once a majority group of people have power and have decided on a issue ,they can enact their will as they please. I wholeheartedly believe that one day will come in the not so distant future where humanity comes to an agreement that some things need to be rooted out before going forward.

The primary cause will have to be eradicated in totality in a very grim conclusion but other things that are subsidiaries of this don't merit the more severe actions.

For transgenders we can simply alter the majority view so that most people (99.9999%) of all humans believe that it is a mental disorder. And when a child has problems, we would have certified therapists who help them resolve the issues, without having to inform them of the possibility that someone COULD even be a transgender. I don't think there will be any single transgender in those days. That thing will cease to exist after its been forgotten as an ideology from the world.

And with Eugenics there won't be any Genetic Diseases left ,which means Hermaphrodites won't be born. So that solves the entire issue completely.
And if 1 or 2 individuals still have these problems, compared to the entire populace it won't be much of an issue.