Love Spell

[sunrise]

now EGO perspective. Yeah, let's forget about 'the other', let's focus on us. What the HELL do we want out of love? TO BE LOVED FOR WHAT WE ARE, ISN'T IT?

what about being true to yourself?

Do you want to PLEASE so much a person who in fact doesn't want the same?

is this called respect for your own being?

are you that insignificant to GIVE UP ON YOURSELF to look in a certain way in their eyes?

Aren't you enough as you are in their eyes?

Think about this as well.

be true to yourself, you are important, check if THEY meet your needs, not the other way around.

If they reject you, they are not better than you, they are simply not for you. Why overcomplicate things, then?

When you insist upon a refusal is just a fact that proves that you see yourself LOWER than them. Or an arrogance from the category 'if you don't want me, I want you'. Or an overall bad impression over your own being and quality and lack of self-respect.
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Love yourself. Be proud of yourself and accept yourself ultimately. The sun doesn't rise from anyone ass. Nor them, or yours. Has to be mutual.

I am fed up to hear whenever somebody is considerate over the other is automatically a new age. We don't live on this planet by ourselves. We live with others. We need to love ourselves as proof that we love the others, and love the others as proof that we love ourselves. This is interchangeable.
I am not talking about jesus type of sick cheap and abusive love. Be careful as you tend to go into that sort of abusive sort of thing if not careful.

Even Father doesn't make us love HIM if is not coming from the bottom of our own being and will, He is that proud.

Be that proud as well.

We don't abuse ourselves and we don't abuse others undeserving.

 

[sunrise]

If I continue with your rhetoric why not let's make people love Satan using magic?

Are we doing this? No, we don't. We are breaking the spell that humanity has on Him. We help humanity to see Him clearly for what he is in REALITY.
So they can come at their own free will and love Him for what He is.

If Father wanted to use magic to be loved I think this would have been entirely easy. But he is too proud for this.

Think about this as well, when it comes to the love topic.

 

[sunrise]

Take another viewpoint.

The energy takes the shortest route to achieve whatever,
You want a person who said NO and you might end up being transformed by the programmed energy in order to fit.
OR WORSE, YOU TRANSFORM THE OTHER IN SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. Different from what you actually liked at the beginning, even if it wasn't mutual.
You mention in a positive way, but you will get adjusted for that specific person and that person as well, This will alter a lot your personality, whatever.

My question is why this hassle? Make the 'compromises' that you explicitly want if we speak about some compromises which might be inevitable. Make it CONSCIOUSLY only if you want to. Playing with the energy which is still not fully understood is not a good idea, at least in the love area.

Energy will act too subtly in this manner to even observe it. Why end up something totally different or the other person as well?

I was speaking about couples who are in love but at the same time obsessed to CHANGE the other. THIS IS INSANE. Let's be genuine from the beginning and till the end. I won't repeat those things, anyhow.

My point is to take what is already there or not - as it is - . and the other way around.

 

[sunrise]

Why this obsession for finding soul mates then?

If we have the magic to manipulate others, let's simply take our ex-partners and transform them like puppets and that's it. Simple. Problem solved.

I could go on and on WHY I PERSONALLY DISAGREE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSING MY VIEW.

I am sorry that I got really triggered by the subject, if it was up to me I would have made it extremely short as it is really simple if you look at it.

But the accusations of the NEW AGE crap are really disturbing FOR ME, when in fact I am a PRACTICAL PERSON, SIMPLE IN MY APPROACH, CONSIDERATE FOR THE PARTNER, MOSTLY CONSIDERATE FOR ME BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE OTHER, SEEKING FOR BALANCE AND HARMONY IN LIFE; Just and correct, expecting in return exactly what I give; Totally in acceptance with myself, not willing to change for another and not trying to change. I FIND IT ENTIRELY HEALTHY, in fact, I SEE MYSELF A GREAT SATANIST.

Stop talking satanism mot-a mot. Try to go deeper into ideas and concepts. I don't talk gibberish, you just hate to think by yourself; if an authority doesn't come over to deliver everything on a plate, that's all. You don't even bother to filter the information. if you do this in life you will end up NOWHERE. Don't offend me for your inability. The fact, if you think in a certain way but expect an authority to change your view, (but at the same time not for his smart view, but simply because the person in question is an authority and just an authority) - is a big problem for you - think about this, especially you Aquarius. We are human beings and here to learn from each other not for the sake of so-called positions, but for the sake of the TRUTH.
At the same time Aquarius I don't want this to sound like I don't consider hps take on manners, I haven't found any gaps in their logic yet. Hopefully, you got the idea right plus, I was speaking about general authorities.

 

[Lanius]

Just going to add my two cents here.

Doing a love spell on someone doesn’t make them be with you or stay with you if they are unhappy. Love spells work by increasing the love that person feels for you, or sparking an interest in you. It’s not a spell to make someone your slave that does your bidding. If done with an appropriate and positive affirmation, then there is nothing to fear here, and nothing disrespectful.

The whole point of doing one of these workings is to unite with someone that you care for. Just bear in mind that there might be someone better out there for you, so a general love working might be better suite me for some. Other people however might actually know who is best for them, and in that case that can use a working to bring that about.

Doing workings to bring about love, happiness, money, careers, or even sex is not evil. Especially since we are SS and any partner that we have will also enjoy the benefits of us being able to help protect them, further their goals and dreams, etc.

Trust your intuition in regards to whether or not you should do a love working on a specific person, or a general one. Remember, we are all different souls with different needs.

One final note, there are even Gods who specialize in uniting lovers, breaking up rivals, etc.

 

[sunrise]

Just going to add my two cents here.

Doing a love spell on someone doesn’t make them be with you or stay with you if they are unhappy. Love spells work by increasing the love that person feels for you, or sparking an interest in you. It’s not a spell to make someone your slave that does your bidding. If done with an appropriate and positive affirmation, then there is nothing to fear here, and nothing disrespectful.

The whole point of doing one of these workings is to unite with someone that you care for. Just bear in mind that there might be someone better out there for you, so a general love working might be better suite me for some. Other people however might actually know who is best for them, and in that case that can use a working to bring that about.

Doing workings to bring about love, happiness, money, careers, or even sex is not evil. Especially since we are SS and any partner that we have will also enjoy the benefits of us being able to help protect them, further their goals and dreams, etc.

Trust your intuition in regards to whether or not you should do a love working on a specific person, or a general one. Remember, we are all different souls with different needs.

One final note, there are even Gods who specialize in uniting lovers, breaking up rivals, etc.

Absolutely brilliant answer. I want to add on your final note the following regarding Gods who are breaking relationships, etc. There are also Gods who are teaching you how to steal. Does this make stealing ok? NO. there are special conditions and special circumstances that the Gods Might consider.
Still, exceptions confirm the rule.

 

[sunrise]

Love can be developed gradually. I think what your describing here is lust, that genetic attraction you get for high value dudes. If you then keep thinking about this it might turn into love.

Sex appeal is everything. You see a woman you are attracted, you fall in love.
First, let's make a distinction between 'FALLING' aka lust and that deep love you are talking about. There are two different aspects. Two different things BUT they emerge one from the other.

If you fall 'gradually' then it is something artificial there.

Falling in love is ONLY at first sight. Never at the 2nd, 3rd.

If, you don't initially fall, or have that sort of lust, don't tell me you will eventually love deeply that person one day. You can't.
Unless you do it for the sake of being in a couple with a person which you came to the LOGICAL and/or INTELECTUAL conclusion (after some time in a friendship), that you can work out something together.
Which is again, artificial.
it Is like ...ok, we look fine together socially, etc logically speaking, we seem to match = let's be together. I see zero sparklings here.

When in fact you should do this (all the logical process) AFTER you initially 'fell'.

I will go even deeper than that. Let me tell a short story. I once a long time ago fall for a guy, Didn't know shit about him. He was a journalist, writing shit, Read an article. Fall immediately. Didn't know how he looked like, didn't even care. Meet him shortly after this. This exemplary was a mirror for me physically, NOT only that I liked the way he 'thinks' hence the appreciation for the so-called articles, but IT CAME OUT TO BE A MIRROR OF MY PHYSICAL TRAITS. From here on, an incredible love story emerged.

So, the metaphysical aspect of love is quite complex but simple at the same time. It is spiritual in its essence. I don't know. I would like to be able to explain it like math, the same with the fact that I would like to know EXACTLY how energy works.

So again, you cannot fall gradually, but gradually you can love more or less, depending on the evolution of other aspects, and levels.

I Know people who fall bit by bit but something artificial is there, something BORING. If you need time to figure out what you feel for somebody is really nothing there, you feel it or not.
BUT and at the end, what you do with that 'feeling' is another story.

1)Sex appeal is 'not' everything. I do think many girls I see everyday are sexy but I am 'not' in love with all of them.
2) Love does not happen on first sight. First probably you get sexually attarcted. Or by some chance you get to know each other and then get sexually attracted. Love is not a linear process. Falling in first sight almost never happens (only in Hollywood movies.)
3) 'Falling' is love. Lust is simply 'sexual attraction' that you can have for any being walking past you on the street. Doesn't mean you love them.
4) Love does not generally happen at first sight,it starts with either lust or getting to know you. Sometimes even both things don't happen and sudden from a very small minute detail a girl falls in love, sometimes in seconds. Its not logical. It just happens. People who've been friends for a long time suddenly become lovers or lovers fall out of love. Happens all the time. There's literally no way to tell as it depends on the individual. There's nothing artificial here.
5) You just contradicted yourself. You said sex appeal is must then you say you suddenly fell for a guy you haven't even seen ? Lol

1)Sex appeal is 'not' everything. I do think many girls I see everyday are sexy but I am 'not' in love with all of them.


sex appeal is not being solely 'sexy'. You as always and like many others take notions MOT A MOT.
SEX APPEAL IS MORE THAN SEX AND APPEAL GO LOOK FOR IT, MAKE YOUR HOMEWORK.
and it is if not everything, it is still 80% the thing that would help you succeed socially. Generally speaking.
Again, do your homework.




2) Love does not happen on first sight. First probably you get sexually attarcted. Or by some chance you get to know each other and then get sexually attracted. Love is not a linear process. Falling in first sight almost never happens (only in Hollywood movies.)


You might get attracted sexually at first sign or you can fall and be attracted sexually it is a whole, it didn't happen to me for just sexual thing, but falling is ONLY AND ONLY AT THE FIRST SIGHT.
It can hit you strongly or not that strongly, still, the sensation is there, AND you don't need plenty of dates to feel it or acknowledge it.
Still, The attraction CAN INCREASE AS THE TIME GOES into something more deeply, OR SIMPLY DIE.
Obviously, as people mature, this so-called 'falling' at first sight is happening less and less once with the UNDERSTANDING and EXPERIENCE. But at the same time is the only thing that I accept as genuine if it's more personal or general I can't decide.
I repeat, it might be an entirely personal choice the way I see it.




3) 'Falling' is love. Lust is simply 'sexual attraction' that you can have for any being walking past you on the street. Doesn't mean you love them.

Don't go into the deep sense of love; I was making clear differentiation in my other posts. You don't bother to read all my posts or reply before saying this.



4) Love does not generally happen at first sight,it starts with either lust or getting to know you. Sometimes even both things don't happen and sudden from a very small minute detail a girl falls in love, sometimes in seconds. Its not logical. It just happens. People who've been friends for a long time suddenly become lovers or lovers fall out of love. Happens all the time. There's literally no way to tell as it depends on the individual. There's nothing artificial here.

You are a bit self-contradictory, make some order in those ideas. Lust - falling in love - they can be interchangeable, or a mix of those two, or even more, whatever. Falling in love is not 'PROFOUND LOVE' is that sensation which you don't know the person quite good or at all, but you feel drawn to in a mixture of feelings, a bit lust, a bit of butterfly in the stomach, etc.

Falling in love is impossible to rationalize. it just hits you!

While LOVING SOMEONE IN A SERIOUS MANNER IS A DIFFERENT RESPONSABLE STEP WHERE YOU KNOW WHY AND HOW already and it happens obviously in time.
I already explained all of this, and you didn't care to read.

But I agree that people are different, as I said, I speak for myself. If you fall for somebody, who was before a friend, good for you, for most people I know this is impossible. WHY? Because, In most cases, once you perceive somebody in a particular light, you tend to keep on seeing him in the same way, This why the first impression matter so much.
As the brain once learned something, is fierce to relearnt it differently — this why we need to learn it right from the start, in a different note.


5) You just contradicted yourself. You said sex appeal is must then you say you suddenly fell for a guy you haven't even seen ? Lol

Yes, because this was SPIRITUAL. I even wrote there, that I can go even 'deeper than seeing' Have you read it? Again, are you actively reading my shit, as I know my English is far from perfect, still, I make things clear.

This particular situation was because souls recognise each other.
What happened to me was a lucky situation where I fast recognise something in tune with me, without even see it. Was the energy, the intuition; maybe I knew him before, was simply something familiar there.
Because falling in love or love is spiritual, after all.
You are trying to ridicule me for something which turned out sublime in my life and who eventually made perfect sense, for me.

And yes, sex appeal is a lot in life if not everything. Go search for the expression; see what it means. Read about the subject. Have a deep understanding of it.

Unless you're ugly, you should have zero problems with it. Hopefully, you are not as I hate ugly people and avoid them like the plague,( as the outside is a reflection of the inside) and those kinds of people have only hate inside. This was a different note, as sex appeal is more than beauty or sexual things, don't take it mot a mot.

I honestly suggest you taking excellent care of your appearance, personal style, etc. because you seem to neglect it and this why girls are not falling for you at first sight. A good looking man with charisma sees girls with their heart beating, getting nuts over him everywhere. They are used to it — nothing spectacular here. Sorry that you don't have this privilege, yet.

NOTE: This is my last comment for you, as I don't play the interesting but honestly have PLENTY OF DEADLINES COMING, I don't mean to ignore you, but you seem one by one to appear each day to prove me wrong, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT. No other reason.
I can assure I am the type of person that knows what she speaks, always, or in most cases; you with your efforts to put me in a corner are mostly something to laugh about.

And Pantsy as well, that 'SAHARA DESERT', I told him I am not addressing him anymore since his rudeness but seems to insist; too bad I will never read whatever he has to say, his words are going into a void. Keep it up Pantsy, I WILL SCROLL DOWN, for as long I respect people, I expect the same in return, or IGNORE. I won't force you to respect me but don't force me to read your shit.

This is my last reply to you personally on this topic. And I will have a fuckin break; I have a life to sort out. This forum can become INSANE at some point.

I hope I fuckin made sense if I wasn't entirely is because I am extremely exhausted from outside sources, still, I tried my best. and remember I GENUINELY HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS AND WISHING YOU THE VERY BEST ALWAYS MY BROTHER.

 

[FancyMancy]

With all due respect, as you are my brother in Satan, please read all my comments at your convenience.

What? No "all due respect" and politeness to me, also? My. So subtle.

 

[sunrise]

Wow. You took your time lol.

I also have a perspective. I didnt read all the stuff you wrote. I just remember the first question. So, should he or not use magick to take a girl's heart ? Hmm
I think it depends on his personality.
In my opinion, if i was in his place I would take my time to think if im polygamous or monogamous.

Why? Well i also believe love is something sacred that happens at first sight. You see a lot of girls in the streets to whom you may be attracted, but when you see the ONE, you will know it. Its a special feeling that you sense the second you look at her. Its not like what you feel when you look at all the other women. You know its YOUR girl, and always when this happens she feels the same.
So you both feel the same for each other. This in my opinion is REAL love. You know and she knows you are meant for each other.

So if she doesnt like you and your love is one sided, then think at what i asked you at the beginning.
If you are monogamous search for the ONE. You know she is the ONE because she will also fall for you HARD. So it will be reciprocal.
If you are polygamous, then its fine. Use the magick. You want to fck her and as a man, I understand you. You see a hot girl, you want to bang her. Of course, why wouldnt you? Who is stopping you? We are Satanists. We do whatever we want.

HOWEWER: so Lady sunrise argued with the other guy about it. Should you or should you NOT play with people's feelings ??
Hmm.

Well sunrise said it is NOT okay, and the guy said its okay because why not. Well, we men have like 10 billion more sexual cells than women , so for me its totally obvious that the woman's brain works different.
Is it moral or not? Here we have different perspectives. For me it is not. I am a monogamous guy. I care about women's feelings. I love to seduce them. I love women in general, but i always stay LOYAL to MY girl.
But i also want to think from his perspective. He likes a girl and wants to fck her. The girls doesnt. What has to be done?
Think about his feelings. Moral or not, just do the magick and have fun. Be nice to her. Take her to a dinner, make her some wonderful memories. I hate men who just want to take advantage of women's body. THEY ARE NOT OBJECTS FOR YOUR PLEASURE FOR FUCKS SAKE. Make her smile, you know. Dont take her to bed the first hour. Dont force anything.
And a little advice when in bed Create tension. You know, do some foreplay. What i mean is kiss her everywhere SLOWLY and dont touch her private part for the first 15 min. Dont go with your tongue ARHGHGHGH . No. Go easy. Dont put your thing in immeditaly. NO. Play with the girl. Make her say she wants it. If you do fine in bed she will come ON HER OWN the second time. This is why i looove women. They must be treated really nice. Cherished.

I wouldnt do it as it is NOT moral to me.But again i think all these perspective revolve around the fact if you are monogamous ( believe in true love and all that ) or polygamous ( want to fck as much as possible because why not).
So yea. You take the decision.
My dear sister sunrise ,I will just assume you are also romanian, so : scuze daca te-a deranjat parerea mea. Am vazut ca ai o personalitate puternica. Nu te-ai lasat pana nu i-ai zis toate punctele tale de vedere .Stiu ca ai zis ca nu mai raspunzi ,dar sunt curios ce parere ai de opinia mea.Ma insel, nu ma insel. Eu cred ca cunosc bine femeile, si vazandu-te mai inteligenta sunt curios ce o sa zici. ( da, am strecurat si un compliment . Poate iti face ziua mai buna. Fara alte interese, suntem frati si surori aici si doar atat) .
Inca ceva . Esti cumva NishaWillow? Nu prea mai esti activa pe forumul nostru.
Astept sa vad ce zici.

Dear Nikolas,

I will answer in English. First, thank you for the intention of making me smile, you did, indeed, is a beautiful trait. Keep on making women smiling that's a very masculine, kind and human thing to do.
Thank you for your decent tone and approach, that's very sweet of you, you came to save me like a knight on a horse, that's so romantic and charming, so so so sweet of you. Thank you once again, it feels great, BUT I CAN DEAL WITH THEM BY MYSELF. LOL. They are my brothers nothing too worry about, even if they weren't my brothers I can deal with trouble, lol, seriously now, joking aside, we spoke in a relaxed manner, trust me, we are enjoying this hence so much engagement is just the time pressuring me and I am bad on focusing on many things at the same time.

Well, about your vision, I can't comment on the sexual part, on how you prefer to make love or things as this is really private and improper to even discuss. At least this is how I personally see it. It is really up to each how they create their settling in their private bed, how fast sex after a date, etc. Still, bits, we can talk.

The only thing I would strongly correct you is the part where you imply polygamous men are solely for sex without any sort of feelings.
You would laugh but those kind of men are the most sensitive and 'loving women type of'.

I have said in other topics that I don't believe that women are being used sexually for as long they commit. Some are making a big fuss about it. Carnal pleasures are mutual, let's not be hypocrite, we don't make you a favour. Woman complaining about this are exaggerating And they do this because they believe the sun rises from their private parts, also they don't have anything else to offer.

Sexual desire is complex, for both women and men when we want somebody is not because is solely a 'beautiful piece of meat'. It is MORE in that being that we want, for both men and women. it is emerging with that being. indeed men can see a woman generally speaking in a more practical way, as a man can't live without any sort of sex for long in a healthy manner. indeed they might be more sexual. I repeat, men can't live without any sort of sex, it is essential for them. Most need diversity. Most need to prove their masculinity, I got all of this.

But I am pretty sure, that even for a 'fuck boy' in its nature, by meeting a woman that's right for him/has more to offer than sex, will make him stay. Don't take this as a sort of thing that I WOULD PERSONALLY WANT TO CHANGE SOMEBODY'S NATURE OR WHATEVER. I PERSONALLY TAKE PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY ARE. Sex is not enough to keep anyone by itself in a relationship at the same time it is an essential part /that IF is meet in a satisfactory, manner, will keep the partners bound.

Polygamous or monogamous people have feelings. For instance, we have in our culture this mindset, men are none and both at the same time. The wife is home as a wife, never to be left, but other women might come and go. It is already a cultural thing.
Men who are polygamous, but in their hypocrisy, would get extremely hurt if betrayed by their wife, they would not even forgive her.
Do I find this right? No, as it is not honest, still, it is happening already in an accepted manner by both sexes.

I respect men nature and choice, but I cannot accept it for myself (cheating) as I have a nose that will see it coming and will get hurt immensely. I am monogamous and this has to go both ways. My ex-partners know it better they end up in mental hospitals and even worse etc after cheating on me as they knew prior to this, as I warn them, but they DIDN'T LISTEN AND underestimated me. Life, you know. Responsibility for the responsible, as a brother would say.

There are plenty of articles to read about studies about love or love at first sight, out of curiosity I already asked in a fast manner a lot of people I know, and nobody said NO.
Of course, it's mutual, is an energetic exchange. Most of the time, at least.
Our brothers are either too little in age, I don't know. My point is I am not an expert in this matters, I was simply giving them a female perspective or another human being perspective with POSSIBILITIES and they want to see it in a specific, stubborn way. I can ultimately respect that as stupid as it is.

I am not sure If I missed any points of your comment if so, feel free to speak with me later on and anytime, I will answer when I can with great pleasure.

Also, It would be extremely easy to understand if you take your time, at your convenience, to read all my comments and replies, I think you will understand what opinion I have if you are interested as you said. Keep in mind, my take is not supreme, AND I am flexible to change my opinion if STRONG ARGUMENTS are coming.
At the moment all I hear is just that baby crying: 'we do what we want, we do what we want, WE DO WHAT WE WANT!!!!'

WELL, I AM NOT YOUR MOMMY. DO WHAT YOU WANT!

I remember, my dad did something extremely smart with me when I was about 13. Since I was an extremely rebellious kid he took me one day and had a conversation with me saying that I am allowed to do EVERYTHING I WANT. Come and go as I please. BUT IF, something BAD HAPPENS My dear daughter, DON'T COME TO ME, I WILL NEVER FIX YOUR SHIT. And he kept his word. Luckily, I was extremely careful, more than usual anyhow, to avoid disasters as I KNEW NOBODY HAS MY BACK.

SO, I WILL TELL THE SAME TO YOU WHO RELY SO MUCH ON THE GODS, (because one brother said so, that he is waiting for the Gods to warn him on every little shit) do what the fuck you want, is not like we should strongly bend each other till we agree, guys. But if the shit hits the fun in your existences, don't come crying to daddy Satan.

But basically things escalated in a sense in our conversations and went in all directions far apart from the initial topic, still, I do not regret participating
GUYS, REMEMBER, I LOVE YOOOOOOOU


Parerea ta nu m-a deranjat in niciun fel. Esti un barbat elegant, ti-ai exprimat cinstit punctul de vedere. Cadem de acord ici-colo. Inteleg maniera ta de a fi impaciuitor. Apreciez echilibrul cu care ai incercat sa impaci pe toti si pe toate. Eu insa le-am spus STRICT ce gandesc. Am avut si am consideratie cu privire la 'punctele lor de vedere', dar raman fidela in acelasi timp punctului meu de vedere, atata timp cat nimeni nu vine cu argumente solide sa mi le darame. Sunt deshisa.
Cand oamenii argumenteaza, oamenii vor din pacate SA-SI IMPUNA ceea ce gandesc, shimbarea de perspectiva nu e usoara. Eu nu mi-am impus punctul de vedere, am ramas deschisa dar nu m-au convins argumentele lor, ce sa fac? Nu pot sa le dau dreptate doar de dragul pacii. Ii iubesc, sunt fratii mei, altfel nu investeam timp la dezbateri.

Iti multumesc mult inca o data, categoric mi-ai schimbat starea de spirit, nu ca ar fi fost neaparat rea, ci pentru ca ai fost minunat in intentia si in interventia ta. Apreciez mult, sa stii!

NU, NU SUNT NISHA WILLOW,
INTR-ADEVAR PREA ACTIVA NU SUNT; nu sunt printre cei vizibili



my current mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HezznYnR2Qk

 

[sunrise]

Someone, please tell PantsyClumsy aka the Sahara Desert, we will talk in 20 years. thank you

He wants to drain all the water out of me, I can't allow this to happen. :shock: thanks again

 

[Jack]

Wow. You took your time lol.

I also have a perspective. I didnt read all the stuff you wrote. I just remember the first question. So, should he or not use magick to take a girl's heart ? Hmm
I think it depends on his personality.
In my opinion, if i was in his place I would take my time to think if im polygamous or monogamous.

Why? Well i also believe love is something sacred that happens at first sight. You see a lot of girls in the streets to whom you may be attracted, but when you see the ONE, you will know it. Its a special feeling that you sense the second you look at her. Its not like what you feel when you look at all the other women. You know its YOUR girl, and always when this happens she feels the same.
So you both feel the same for each other. This in my opinion is REAL love. You know and she knows you are meant for each other.

So if she doesnt like you and your love is one sided, then think at what i asked you at the beginning.
If you are monogamous search for the ONE. You know she is the ONE because she will also fall for you HARD. So it will be reciprocal.
If you are polygamous, then its fine. Use the magick. You want to fck her and as a man, I understand you. You see a hot girl, you want to bang her. Of course, why wouldnt you? Who is stopping you? We are Satanists. We do whatever we want.

HOWEWER: so Lady sunrise argued with the other guy about it. Should you or should you NOT play with people's feelings ??
Hmm.

Well sunrise said it is NOT okay, and the guy said its okay because why not. Well, we men have like 10 billion more sexual cells than women , so for me its totally obvious that the woman's brain works different.
Is it moral or not? Here we have different perspectives. For me it is not. I am a monogamous guy. I care about women's feelings. I love to seduce them. I love women in general, but i always stay LOYAL to MY girl.
But i also want to think from his perspective. He likes a girl and wants to fck her. The girls doesnt. What has to be done?
Think about his feelings. Moral or not, just do the magick and have fun. Be nice to her. Take her to a dinner, make her some wonderful memories. I hate men who just want to take advantage of women's body. THEY ARE NOT OBJECTS FOR YOUR PLEASURE FOR FUCKS SAKE. Make her smile, you know. Dont take her to bed the first hour. Dont force anything.
And a little advice when in bed Create tension. You know, do some foreplay. What i mean is kiss her everywhere SLOWLY and dont touch her private part for the first 15 min. Dont go with your tongue ARHGHGHGH . No. Go easy. Dont put your thing in immeditaly. NO. Play with the girl. Make her say she wants it. If you do fine in bed she will come ON HER OWN the second time. This is why i looove women. They must be treated really nice. Cherished.

I wouldnt do it as it is NOT moral to me.But again i think all these perspective revolve around the fact if you are monogamous ( believe in true love and all that ) or polygamous ( want to fck as much as possible because why not).
So yea. You take the decision.
My dear sister sunrise ,I will just assume you are also romanian, so : scuze daca te-a deranjat parerea mea. Am vazut ca ai o personalitate puternica. Nu te-ai lasat pana nu i-ai zis toate punctele tale de vedere .Stiu ca ai zis ca nu mai raspunzi ,dar sunt curios ce parere ai de opinia mea.Ma insel, nu ma insel. Eu cred ca cunosc bine femeile, si vazandu-te mai inteligenta sunt curios ce o sa zici. ( da, am strecurat si un compliment . Poate iti face ziua mai buna. Fara alte interese, suntem frati si surori aici si doar atat) .
Inca ceva . Esti cumva NishaWillow? Nu prea mai esti activa pe forumul nostru.
Astept sa vad ce zici.

The argument was not about trying to fuck anyone without feelings. The argument was simply about the OP trying to use magick and getting "the" girl,or the girl he's in love with. Then arguments about ethics and morals,things about being stubborn (OP hasn't even confessed or being rejected ), and other convoluted things were made in haphazard posts.

 

[Jack]

Love spell: Mental rape

Love Spell=True Love.
Everyone should do a love spell with their significant other to better their relationships.

 

[sunrise]

Wow. You took your time lol.

I also have a perspective. I didnt read all the stuff you wrote. I just remember the first question. So, should he or not use magick to take a girl's heart ? Hmm
I think it depends on his personality.
In my opinion, if i was in his place I would take my time to think if im polygamous or monogamous.

Why? Well i also believe love is something sacred that happens at first sight. You see a lot of girls in the streets to whom you may be attracted, but when you see the ONE, you will know it. Its a special feeling that you sense the second you look at her. Its not like what you feel when you look at all the other women. You know its YOUR girl, and always when this happens she feels the same.
So you both feel the same for each other. This in my opinion is REAL love. You know and she knows you are meant for each other.

So if she doesnt like you and your love is one sided, then think at what i asked you at the beginning.
If you are monogamous search for the ONE. You know she is the ONE because she will also fall for you HARD. So it will be reciprocal.
If you are polygamous, then its fine. Use the magick. You want to fck her and as a man, I understand you. You see a hot girl, you want to bang her. Of course, why wouldnt you? Who is stopping you? We are Satanists. We do whatever we want.

HOWEWER: so Lady sunrise argued with the other guy about it. Should you or should you NOT play with people's feelings ??
Hmm.

Well sunrise said it is NOT okay, and the guy said its okay because why not. Well, we men have like 10 billion more sexual cells than women , so for me its totally obvious that the woman's brain works different.
Is it moral or not? Here we have different perspectives. For me it is not. I am a monogamous guy. I care about women's feelings. I love to seduce them. I love women in general, but i always stay LOYAL to MY girl.
But i also want to think from his perspective. He likes a girl and wants to fck her. The girls doesnt. What has to be done?
Think about his feelings. Moral or not, just do the magick and have fun. Be nice to her. Take her to a dinner, make her some wonderful memories. I hate men who just want to take advantage of women's body. THEY ARE NOT OBJECTS FOR YOUR PLEASURE FOR FUCKS SAKE. Make her smile, you know. Dont take her to bed the first hour. Dont force anything.
And a little advice when in bed Create tension. You know, do some foreplay. What i mean is kiss her everywhere SLOWLY and dont touch her private part for the first 15 min. Dont go with your tongue ARHGHGHGH . No. Go easy. Dont put your thing in immeditaly. NO. Play with the girl. Make her say she wants it. If you do fine in bed she will come ON HER OWN the second time. This is why i looove women. They must be treated really nice. Cherished.

I wouldnt do it as it is NOT moral to me.But again i think all these perspective revolve around the fact if you are monogamous ( believe in true love and all that ) or polygamous ( want to fck as much as possible because why not).
So yea. You take the decision.
My dear sister sunrise ,I will just assume you are also romanian, so : scuze daca te-a deranjat parerea mea. Am vazut ca ai o personalitate puternica. Nu te-ai lasat pana nu i-ai zis toate punctele tale de vedere .Stiu ca ai zis ca nu mai raspunzi ,dar sunt curios ce parere ai de opinia mea.Ma insel, nu ma insel. Eu cred ca cunosc bine femeile, si vazandu-te mai inteligenta sunt curios ce o sa zici. ( da, am strecurat si un compliment . Poate iti face ziua mai buna. Fara alte interese, suntem frati si surori aici si doar atat) .
Inca ceva . Esti cumva NishaWillow? Nu prea mai esti activa pe forumul nostru.
Astept sa vad ce zici.

The argument was not about trying to fuck anyone without feelings. The argument was simply about the OP trying to use magick and getting "the" girl,or the girl he's in love with. Then arguments about ethics and morals,things about being stubborn (OP hasn't even confessed or being rejected ), and other convoluted things were made in haphazard posts.

Jack,

You gave me a lot of advice, to the Munka, etc

I will consider EVERYTHING YOU TOLD ME AND I WILL PROCEED ACCORDINGLY.
Maybe you see something that I don't, so rest assured, I will take you seriously.
If you care to understand my stance is up to you, but I will for sure care for your observations for JUST IN CASE.

thank you for the time invested on those conversations as I ultimately know you are trying to help rather than be right, I am not an idiot. This message is aimed at your older replies to put a reply on all and everything.

 

[NinRick]

stop it guys, there is nothing to prove here.

 

[sunrise]

Please ignore the other guy who doesnt know what respect means and behaves like this to another girl from our FAMILY.
I dont understand his attitude nor do i want him to pick on me now. He has an argument and you dont agree with it, and it seems that the problem is you. I hope he doesnt do this because you are a woman and he has the need to prove his masculinity or why men are right and women are women.

You dont talk to a girl like this. Even if you are right( or wrong) i dont agree with this type of behaviour towards women.
Now i will have to write something nice to make you feel good and forget about that message.

I enjoyed talking to you and im glad i made you smile. This is what REAL men do. Making women smile/feel good is the ultimate supreme prove of MaScUlynItY. I am a man but i never feel the need to prove it. Women notice on their own. No need for me to try hard lol .

So i keep being that knight on a horse but in the same time my girl is pretty jealous, so even if she has no way to see this i will have my limits because i also think of her

Ok, so you see it as a private thing. I dont really mind talking about it. I just feel i need to satisfy my girl or im in bad trouble lol.

About the polygamous being most loving of women. They maybe are because they have multiple partners right , but its different from monogamous love. I have just one girl and i dont want to lose her, whereas a polygamous even if he loses one partner, he still has 3-4. He still gets hurt, i uderstand, but i believe not to the same EXTENT a monogamous man would get.


You're saying women dont make us favors when having sex. Im glad you mentioned this. I always feel like im taking advantage of her body. I make sure she enjoys it, but STILL, a part of me feels bad, like im using her. I dont understand why or how. This is why i feel the need to seduce her so that she ONLY comes when she DECIDED its the time. No pressuring whatsoever.
This in my eyes is what a real man does with his girl. Also those little gestures: hugging from behing, romantic stuff, i want you to feel like the most loved girl ever, flowers, also COUNT a lot .

I agree, men can't live without any sort of sex. But i dont get the diversity and masculinity part. If im masculine i dont go to another girl to prove it nor i feel the diversity need. If im getting bored there is always something like trying different foreplay or doing if more seldom and actully going in adventures- travelling to different countries, chit chatting about the day or simply asking her oppions about anything.

About the fuck boys, i only think they are immature men. When they mature or meet the woman mature enough to change them, they really change .



Im curious what you, as a lady, mean when you say men nature and choice. How do you really see us, men?
I always look at women with so much more interest than at guys. Im a guy, im bored of what other guys think or feel because i can already tell without even having them open their mouth.But women in my eyes are different Behind every strong man is an amazing woman. Women have the power to take the BEST out of men, to motivate and control men.With the right girl in his arms, any guys can achieve a lot. My opinion


Im glad you are a lfexible person. Im not sure if i have STRONG points of view. Whatever. I will see what you want to say.
" At the moment all I hear is just that baby crying: 'we do what we want, we do what we want, WE DO WHAT WE WANT!!!!'

WELL, I AM NOT YOUR MOMMY. DO WHAT YOU WANT!" Hhahaha your so fine.Like how you approach them.

I respect your dad, im sure he knows you the best so he knew how to take care of his girl. Im actually more the type: No matter what you do/ the hardships that will come. I WILL ALWAYS BE RIGHT THERE TO PROTECT YOU.

" But if the shit hits the fun in your existences, don't come crying to daddy Satan. " Hahahaa lol.You have a nice humour.
I think if someone genuinely asks Father for help and guidance, Father will help as much as He can.

"GUYS, REMEMBER, I LOVE YOOOOOOOU"
And this is why i appreciate women. Guys are usually too boring and arrogant and care too much about their point of view , but when i see how women speak , like these sweet things it makes me feel fascinated. It would be so awkward to hear a guy saying it, but i like it when its from a woman.
We love you too.


" Parerea ta nu m-a deranjat in niciun fel. Esti un barbat elegant, ti-ai exprimat cinstit punctul de vedere. "
Am doar 20 de ani Ma rog,suntem cu totii suflete "batrane" , nu cred ca conteaza ce varsta am in viata asta.

Iti multumesc mult inca o data, categoric mi-ai schimbat starea de spirit, nu ca ar fi fost neaparat rea, ci pentru ca ai fost minunat in intentia si in interventia ta. Apreciez mult, sa stii!
Si mie mi-a facut placere sa discutam.In continuare mai vreau sa mai vorbim pe forum.Nu ezita sa-mi scrii caci eu nu ezit
Am mult timp liber.Am iesit din spital dupa o operatie si acum ma recuperez.Scrie-mi oricand si din orice motiv.Si eu mai am of-uri si imi place sa povestesc cu cineva, chiar si ceva banal gen cum mi-a fost ziua.Cred ca noi SS trebuie sa fim mai uniti si sa discutam liber.

'Please ignore the other guy who doesnt know what respect means and behaves like this to another girl from our FAMILY.
I dont understand his attitude nor do i want him to pick on me now. He has an argument and you dont agree with it, and it seems that the problem is you. I hope he doesnt do this because you are a woman and he has the need to prove his masculinity or why men are right and women are women.'


I will not ignore anyone, and this is because their INTENTIONS are reasonable, we are family, we try to teach each other the best.
I like their styles; I don't mind.

Just Pantsy, I have my humour with him. It is only between him and me.

I don't want to be treated in a specific way, just because I am a woman. I don't need this. Forget that I am a girl if this makes you treat me more softly. Be real, that's all it matters to me but at the same time, I will tell you when you crossed the line.

SMART PEOPLE KNOW WHEN AND WHERE TO STOP.

I like the boys' styles, I want them to be themselves and deliver it, however, as I said, when it is exaggerated, I will tell. Even so, it is not like I WILL GET OVERLY OFFENDED OR SOME OTHER CRAP, cry or get over sensitive over it.

Let's be reasonable, that's all I want




'You dont talk to a girl like this. Even if you are right( or wrong) i dont agree with this type of behaviour towards women.
Now i will have to write something nice to make you feel good and forget about that message. '


You have a gentleman mindset which makes me respect you a lot, but I repeat, it is fine. It is fun, we are learning from each other. People are so diverse. But thank you for being what you are.



'I enjoyed talking to you and im glad i made you smile. This is what REAL men do. Making women smile/feel good is the ultimate supreme prove of MaScUlynItY. I am a man but i never feel the need to prove it. Women notice on their own. No need for me to try hard lol .'


Obviously, some things speak for themselves.



'So i keep being that knight on a horse but in the same time my girl is pretty jealous, so even if she has no way to see this i will have my limits because i also think of her '


What about a threesome? LOL, I am joking, no.
Have consideration for your girl, this is extremely wonderful, I just love the way you respect her, I love men like you.

Tell her that she has no reason for jealousy in case she is there reading, as I have nothing to do with you other than friendship and since I didn't fall for you at the first read, is impossible for the future. Therefore ZERO REASONS TO WORRY.




'Ok, so you see it as a private thing. I dont really mind talking about it. I just feel i need to satisfy my girl or im in bad trouble lol.'


I am a scorpio, sex is private.
If you ask me about this need to satisfy I KNOW, REAL MEN NEED TO SATISFY GETTING THEIR SATISFACTION OUT OF THEIR PARTNER SATISFACTION. It is very common in your world and wonderful.

i am a brute in this regard. You need to fuck me for yourself. This is my sexual satisfaction; too much consideration on me is boring in bed.

But most women appreciate what you say. Keep it as it is, as most want this.



'About the polygamous being most loving of women. They maybe are because they have multiple partners right , but its different from monogamous love. I have just one girl and i dont want to lose her, whereas a polygamous even if he loses one partner, he still has 3-4. He still gets hurt, i uderstand, but i believe not to the same EXTENT a monogamous man would get.'


Men can be both at the same time. They can love deeply one woman and sleep with others. Or love them all in different ways. A mix of this can arise. I think for some the label is redundant.

What I meant in my previous post, was that, for some polygamous being sensitive in a sense that They are afraid to commit themselves to one single person deeply. This is for some. They have been hurt before, they just jump fast, making sure this way that this doesn't happen again. But only for some, as men are capable to love many women at the same time, differently, and I respect that. Or they simply want to have fun, etc etc, hard to label or classify.



'You're saying women dont make us favors when having sex. Im glad you mentioned this. I always feel like im taking advantage of her body. I make sure she enjoys it, but STILL, a part of me feels bad, like im using her. I dont understand why or how. This is why i feel the need to seduce her so that she ONLY comes when she DECIDED its the time. No pressuring whatsoever.'

You are not using anybody. sex is in 2. it is a mutual thing. Your consideration for the partners is a beautiful thing and if it makes you feel good, that's great.
Please stop with this using thing. I beg you, don't ruin your own satisfaction over this worry. Sex is something so natural and normal. Stop overthinking, go with the flow.
I hope your partner cares for your satisfaction as much as you care for her. Make sure that you take enough as you seem to give a lot.



'This in my eyes is what a real man does with his girl. Also those little gestures: hugging from behing, romantic stuff, i want you to feel like the most loved girl ever, flowers, also COUNT a lot .'

This is the romanian style. Our men are charming. Flower shops are their normal, AT LEAST WEEKLY route.
I LOVE MY MEN. I ADORE YOU GUYS. YOU ARE UNBELIEVABLE WONDERFUL WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN.




'I agree, men can't live without any sort of sex. But i dont get the diversity and masculinity part. If im masculine i dont go to another girl to prove it nor i feel the diversity need. If im getting bored there is always something like trying different foreplay or doing if more seldom and actully going in adventures- travelling to different countries, chit chatting about the day or simply asking her oppions about anything. '


People are different Nickolas, that's life, that's the diversity of it. Overall that's the beauty of it,
There are plenty of women who wants this so-called diversity as well. Or girls highly respected who are cheating horribly. Or many many other examples. People are doing what they want, you know...




'About the fuck boys, i only think they are immature men. When they mature or meet the woman mature enough to change them, they really change.'

Yes, young men especially need to EXPERIMENT. Also, there are older men in this position highly passioned about sex for the sake of sex. Not all of them change, you know, Some men need sexual validation, to compare, to experiment all their life...so on, so forth. Nothing to blame after all.



'Im curious what you, as a lady, mean when you say men nature and choice. How do you really see us, men? '

You can read this. I think I posted on different topics but don't remember wuite well.
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19385

How I see men, I LOVE YOU GUYS, I AM CRAZY ABOUT YOU. The world would be such a boring place without you. I love lifting a man spirit up. I love everything about you. I have been raised by men in a mostly manly environment. still I have been working extensively with woman.

There are the soul polarities, There are extensive recent sermons on that, look for them... girls being more masculine or boys being more feminine.
I am more masculine a lot of lesbians are falling for me, lol.
The Most rest of the women hate me deeply, maybe I should do a MUNKA to overcome this, as I tend to have a lot of bad feeling over them and I am a woman after all.

I see woman DANGEROUS like they have a problem with you, but they don't come as a man to tell you IN YOUR FACE. They would dig your grave silently. AND THEY DON'T KNOW LOYALTY AS MUCH AS A MAN WOULD KNOW.
OF COURSE, ALL OF THIS IS GENERAL. THERE ARE A LOT OF EXCEPTIONS.


'I always look at women with so much more interest than at guys. Im a guy, im bored of what other guys think or feel because i can already tell without even having them open their mouth.But women in my eyes are different Behind every strong man is an amazing woman. Women have the power to take the BEST out of men, to motivate and control men.With the right girl in his arms, any guys can achieve a lot. My opinion'


Exactly what you said with the power of the women over the man I think I wrote in the other post, I attached you the link. We are in total agreement.

We are a team, we need to team up.


'Im glad you are a lfexible person. Im not sure if i have STRONG points of view. Whatever. I will see what you want to say.
" At the moment all I hear is just that baby crying: 'we do what we want, we do what we want, WE DO WHAT WE WANT!!!!'

WELL, I AM NOT YOUR MOMMY. DO WHAT YOU WANT!" Hhahaha your so fine.Like how you approach them.'

I am flexible, I am here to teach and learn. Teach if I CAN, as I want to give back. The best I can; the best in my capabilities.

I am joking with them. I want a bit of entertaining out of life as well. I don't want to see us around here being overly serious over a topic when it is not the case. The is an open discussion.



'I respect your dad, im sure he knows you the best so he knew how to take care of his girl. Im actually more the type: No matter what you do/ the hardships that will come. I WILL ALWAYS BE RIGHT THERE TO PROTECT YOU.'

No, trust me, my dad created a force of nature, a self-reliant girl, I came to the point when I don't need anybody. Throw me anywhere, and you can be sure, I WILL SURVIVE.

Of course, a kid still needs to be watched over from a distance, but not too much, too much care can damage.

I don't have kids, so I don't know yet. I would like to talk one day from experience, at first hand.


" But if the shit hits the fun in your existences, don't come crying to daddy Satan. " Hahahaa lol.You have a nice humour.
I think if someone genuinely asks Father for help and guidance, Father will help as much as He can.'

I love father Satan to bits, my loyalty to Him is eternal; I will serve him into the infinite, HE IS ...I DON'T HAVE WORDS FOR HIM.


"GUYS, REMEMBER, I LOVE YOOOOOOOU"
And this is why i appreciate women. Guys are usually too boring and arrogant and care too much about their point of view , but when i see how women speak , like these sweet things it makes me feel fascinated. It would be so awkward to hear a guy saying it, but i like it when its from a woman.
We love you too.'

Awwww, Nikolas, you are a lovely person, I am so proud to be your sister in Satan. Thank you for your beautiful soul.


'" Parerea ta nu m-a deranjat in niciun fel. Esti un barbat elegant, ti-ai exprimat cinstit punctul de vedere. "
Am doar 20 de ani Ma rog,suntem cu totii suflete "batrane" , nu cred ca conteaza ce varsta am in viata asta. '

Ai doar 20 de ani? Amazing. Tot respectul meu.
I have a blood brother he just turned 17; age is not essential, this little fellow is my advisor on everything, business and serious personal matters.
HE IS STRONG, SMART, WISE.

I LOVE YOUNG PEOPLE, I LEARN FROM YOUNGER PEOPLE ALL THE TIME MORE THAN FROM OLDER.

IF YOU ARE STUPID AT 10, YOU WILL BE AT 20 AND 30 AND SO FORTH


'Iti multumesc mult inca o data, categoric mi-ai schimbat starea de spirit, nu ca ar fi fost neaparat rea, ci pentru ca ai fost minunat in intentia si in interventia ta. Apreciez mult, sa stii!
Si mie mi-a facut placere sa discutam.In continuare mai vreau sa mai vorbim pe forum.Nu ezita sa-mi scrii caci eu nu ezit
Am mult timp liber.Am iesit din spital dupa o operatie si acum ma recuperez.Scrie-mi oricand si din orice motiv.Si eu mai am of-uri si imi place sa povestesc cu cineva, chiar si ceva banal gen cum mi-a fost ziua.Cred ca noi SS trebuie sa fim mai uniti si sa discutam liber.'

Exactly, we need to be more UNITED AND SPEAK FREELY, THERE IS A LOT OF FALSEHOOD AND HYPOCRISY IN THE WORLD ALREADY TO BE FED UP WITH.

SUNT ALATURI DE TINE, AI TOATA SUSTINEREA MEA. IMI PARE SINCER RAU PENTRU TINE SPER SA TE RECUPERZI NUMAIDECAT.
Simte-te liber sa-mi scrii la [email protected] daca ai neaparata nevoie de mine.

 

[Syt]

Hi NinRick,
Thanks for sharing your experience with your love spell. Your target dreaming of having sex with her ex sounds like subconsciours confusion/ resistance to the strong and rapid 'blossoming' of feelings for you. I strongly recommend for you to continue.

Can you do me a big favor?

Can you kindly list out the original steps to your love spell and then also list out the spell with the new adjustments that you'll be making?

Thanks.

Hail Satan.

So okay now the story:
Currently I am doing a Love spell what I do is, I pull her light body out of her body when she sleeps and I „have sex“ with her. And obviously on climax I do the normal stuff I shoot Bright Energy inside her lightbody and physical body an aura and program it.
It feels like it is super effective. She also said that she is dreaming almost each night about having sex since I started this.

Now the Bad thing she is kinda confused, and obviously I can not tell her what is going on. And she also dreamed having sex with her ex.

So what do you think should I pull out her light body from the very start or should I just direct the energy at her? Is it more effective the way I do it or will I get same results if I do it differently?

 

[sunrise]

I've tried explaining to you that I did not attack you, and you continue to troll, ignore and attack me - and you have no idea why. Enjoy your false-logical, AKA emotional, responses in your ignorant and immature attitude. You have problems but you are comfortable with them and don't want to remove them. Enjoy.

Pantsy,

First thing first, you lack a sense of humour. Since your dryness it's understandable.

I had a second thought and I said that I am willing to give you a second chance, since you're my brother, you deserve it,

BUT ONLY IF,

You admit publicly that you are a... WATER DIGGER!

That's all. I don't ask for much. That's my deal, take it or not.

PS: we should all gather and send you some gallons of water, get you a swimming pool, take you to the seaside...anything really...

My point is IF YOU NEED WATER JUST ASK, DON'T BE ASHAMED. I MYSELF NEED A LOT OF AIR SINCE MY FIRE DOESN'T BURN PROPERLY ALL THE TIME.

You, actually, are the one who don't have a sense of humour. You cry and bitch all the time and then talk shit like you have done, while ignoring the fact that I didn't attack you. Tell me why I would attack you; I have no reason to - other than in retaliation, which you know and see that I have done. It is very possible to get the wrong end of the stick. I have said numerous times that text, despite emoticons and picture/video memes, is shit for proper communication.

Seeing as you choose to be ignorant, I shall repeat myself - I can neither confirm nor deny my Astrological make-up, so you, who accuses me of digging, keep on trying to dig for information all you want.

I am not accountable to you and you know that, so take your "deal" and shove it where the sun doesn't rise from. Your name is not sunrise; it is shitrise.

I would end with this previous paragraph just above, but I also wanted to say something else in a different tone to my reply above. The tone I intend for this paragraph is jocular, humourous, funny, silly... I also decided to add a bit of blue humour in here, as well. I also want to end my reply on a light note/tone, as well. This might not be funny, but since your fire doesn't burn properly allow me to try and guide it, just this once. If you agree, then I will say this - seeing as this might not be funny, humour me! You allege I lack this, that, and the other, and you say that your fire doesn't burn properly. Don't take your own shit out on me - unless you should decide to agree with me that you and I have a non-serious, playful, jocular online "relationship" and have a HP or HPS pretend to marry us in the presence of the thousands of members/users (the Yehubor not invited) here. Then we can be like an old...well, young and newly-married couple who complains a lot but we enjoy it and we enjoy each other. We can put on little skits for our JoS fans and entertain them like in a sitcom, with canned-laughter at very non-funny jokes. We can put ARv2 to shame because he failed to get with Lydia. As such, sunrise, what's your Venus? You can tell me your Venus (not literally; this is a joke, don't forget), or you can shut the fuck up and do the King and Queen and stop your bitching. Erm... darling. By the way, I'll be home late - the boys and I are going out to paint the town yellow (the colour of sunrise, ).

End of joke/humour. Take that as you want it.

There was another member who I replied to before and I tried helping them not be upset with what I said. They replied back to me saying that they didn't mind my direct and blunt answer - that is a part of their make-up; yours, with whatever constitutes you, is yours; mine is mine. Please try and chill out. You tell me that I need water. It's OK for you to ask for direct help yourself. Your fire, as you said, doesn't burn properly; you need water to calm down and not be hot-headed. You project things onto others that you can't or don't know how to ask for yourself.

[Activate humour again] If you and I were together, I'd definitely learn pyrokinesis and pyromancy, then I'd be FancyPyroMancy, then I'd be able to handle your fiery, feisty, wily ways (yes, you are wily!) and see in advance when you're going to shoot out a coronal mass ejection. Then I'd direct it to our enemies and we'd be as cool as a cucumber in the rain. ;-) Let's watch Netflix and chill. You certainly need a good...erm...massage. cough (I prefer torrents than Netflix, but then the joke wouldn't make sense...)

now Fancy, let's have a serious really serious conversation (not conversation) but allow me to put it on the best I can. I want this to be mature and upfront.
Look, I have no idea, what or how, but I don't like you. I don't like you at all.
You are not among the type of people I would like around.
You don't need me around, or my validation or anything, you have plenty of people around to help as you are doing a great amount of work all ready for the family. Which is Great. You are doing great.
Maybe there are things in our charts that simply clash in a way, I don't know, I don't really care.

What I know is that you are the only person that again, drained all my all being after having an absolutely brilliant day, I feel extremely tired and pissed for no reason, I mean for your reason, NOONE HERE DID THIS, ONLY YOU. and I really want to keep myself in a happy beautiful mood, I deserve this Fancy, I deserve to be in a good mood and talk with people who I can get along. This is what I want for myself. Please respect that, take it as it is. Stop writing to me, you don't need to change, I don't need to change if we can't go along why all this struggle?

Please understand that I don't want to talk with you never again, show me that you are mature, and a fine person deep inside and you can take this as it is, as I hate pretending and simulating what I actually don't feel or think. We are brothers, we need to be honest with each other.
if I ever offended you in any way, please forgive me, honestly do this and at the same time, just leave me alone. That's all.

You are the one insisting and I thank you for this, I am sure in your own very specific way, you tried to get along and actually help me, but we don't get along and I don't need a to be helped in a forceful way.
I won't hold any bad feelings over you, I promise, I just simply don't want this anymore. It is the second time and I don't want it anymore. I ask you nicely. Call me, however, think whatever, but just leave me alone, the second time when I read a comment from you on the topic and I get the same very horrible sensation. Maybe is not you, maybe I am the problem, but let me live with it. Have all the satisfaction of whatever you want, but just leave me alone Mancy.

Our brothers don't deserve to read this shit, I am deeply ashamed for them, really,