Lost another lover...

[Bravera]

Dude it was half a month grow the hell up. It sounds like you have abandonment issues. And in black terms stop trying to be captain save a hoe. I can’t believe hetero relationships are like this.

I wanted to share a story about me chasing one of my most important goals. I will never "grow" out of this honestly. I love flirting and dating, but I only want one women. If I pick someone, I'm gonna put everything I can until I'm sure it's over.

I want to, like our great civilizers, build great families and kingdoms, I have to start with my own. If I had the right women in my life, I know I would be greatly empowered, but I will not let my anyone impact my spiritual growth negatively, I've got enough of a problem dealing with my own self.

Thanks for your concern, but I like to find the faults in what others might find as logic. How many billions of children were borne out of the labor of love? How many great men chose to be a POWERFUL man for his Beautiful yet less powerful women? That should be every man's responsibility, it gives true respect, honor, and alignment with what Nature has bestowed to us.

 

[Veritá_666]

How many great men chose to be a POWERFUL man for his Beautiful yet less powerful women? That should be every man's responsibility, it gives true respect, honor, and alignment with what Nature has bestowed to us.

You know, that's not really the case.
There are many men who improve and become more advanced day by day just to reach the level of their beloved.
There is no law in this, it varies according to the situation.
I have found that many women who seem weaker or more delicate actually want to have a free and strong spirit.
So don't be prejudiced on this, you can be their big and strong man, but there will be situations where she will be the one who is big and strong.
But in the end it is impossible to give a definition for everything in these cases.

A man and a woman complement each other and are necessary for each other.

 

[Jrvan]

You flatter me

You're flattered by your own dis? That explains a lot. Your wires are all crossed, and an insult sounds like a compliment to you. When you go around throwing shade at people, you're actually sending them enormous amounts of love from the depths of your twisted heart.

They don't understand this though, Aquarius. You need to inform them so they don't take it the wrong way.

For what reason do you make everything antagonistic? You seek conflict everywhere you go.

What is the purpose of that? What does it accomplish? Where does it bring you, or the people you speak to?

Clearly to me, Aquarius there is just having a laugh and making a sarcastic reply, because he doesn't feel offended by what is said to him, nether is he concerned with the words of others against him. Instead of arguing, he sarcastically agrees with a smile and calls it a day.

Yet, not only you fail to see the obvious, but also use it to validate your own strange opinions about the person, attempting to antagonize them, as if you were hunting for something to catch them on and now after reading Aquarius's reply think to yourself "Aha, Now I've Gotcha!", and take this as an opportunity to antagonize him for literally no reason.

It is a very strange behavior, and I have question why you feel the compulsive need to do this everywhere.

What do you seek to accomplish through this?

I'm genuinely curious, because I am trying to understand exactly what makes you act as you do, and what your purpose is in doing so.

My reply to Aquarius was sarcastic, but also playful in nature and intent. I thought maybe he would appreciate it. Hopefully that answers that part of your question. For the other part, it's a loaded question and my answer is to go fuck yourself.

 

[NinRick]

You flatter me

You're flattered by your own dis? That explains a lot. Your wires are all crossed, and an insult sounds like a compliment to you. When you go around throwing shade at people, you're actually sending them enormous amounts of love from the depths of your twisted heart.

They don't understand this though, Aquarius. You need to inform them so they don't take it the wrong way.

For what reason do you make everything antagonistic? You seek conflict everywhere you go.

Said the same months ago *cough* *cough*

 

[tabby]

This is getting tiring and absurd. Voice of Enki is one of the most awesome SS, and I like him very much. He also is very correct and just in his approach as far as I saw his posts.

Aquarius has a laid back attitude and he is a SS as well. Same goes for everyone else.

Everyone is advancing as well.

This rebellion is put towards the wrong end, it would be more fruitful to base it on a real project or subject, in depth and not artificially just as a pure reaction.

Jrvan, you are perceived with an anti-hero charm as an attitude that is found many times in movies and patterns of psychology.

Your motivation while may be with an aim of fairness, fails the end of this by simply targeting low preoccupations and tete-a-tete personal interactions.

You have received advice. If you think something is ungodly developing while other people don't see it, you are free to contact the Gods. However your attitude of perpetuated self imposing over I would say quite intimate measures is damaging and tiring.

You warn that you may go of the forums etc, this is revealing of a problem that you need to fix. While we may not be all here very liking of each other, there is need for harmony and peace among ourselves,, ideally this should be accounted for anytime this is started.

These are baseless attacks and this should stop, in any and all ways. Fruitfull discussion can happen, yet being that it doesn't arise, one needs to ask why and the purpose of this.

Baseless? Personally, I'll object to that. How many times have jrvan been unfairly picked on, attacked, and ridiculed since he got here, and few if any, stepped in to stop it or say something against it?

Shall I count the numerous times he's had his arguments twisted to fit the personal narratives of other people's conditioned bias, called a cuck and other various insults, and had his personal life used against him to credit a lame argument against him?

Everyone is supposed to be different and individual, but the same group of guys seem to have a problem with the fact jrvan is not like you lot. That's how it all started in the first place. jrvan wasn't manly enough for you. He wasn't cold and iron hearted enough for you. He wasn't xian traditional mindset enough for you. He wasn't perfect enough 10+ years dedicated 5M posts enough for you.

No one seems to want to admit to their own behaviors towards others, but the moment jrvan gets fed up and frustrated by others behaviors towards him, fingers start pointing and he's labelled the boogy man. EVERYONE's communication can get better. But it seems the only people that advice is pushed on to is everyone on the receiving end of dog bites, not the ones who dish it. Relationships and communication is a two way street, not a highway and a bike path.

Can you imagine any other new people receiving even half the crap jrvan has gotten, but quieter personalities? Do you think they would survive their first year on the JoS without either turning away from the toxicity and abrasiveness, or become colder and hardened (negative meaning) when engaging with their brothers and sisters? Some might claim "well that just means they were weak and didn't deserve to be here, clearly." That is a highly anti-growth and expansion mindset, and toxic to anyone we are trying to reach.

I know this is not the topic to mention this, but personally, JoS has felt closed off and isolated - and I don't mean in the sense of literally in the way that we are the targets of all jewish programming and unaccepted by society. I mean this in the sense that established members seem unwilling and un-accepting of anything new entering into the forums. Maybe I'm crazy, but despite there being a post from HP Hoodedcobra about how we should treat new people, few seem to practice his wisdom towards people who don't have established years on their backs.

I've also noticed the mindset that people treat new people as ignorant and stupid without any experience, as if they are new born children. Some of them are, and I understand this tends to apply largely with spirituality, but so many forget or simply ignore there is a life and past for everyone who comes here outside of JoS. People come here already knowing life experiences, the only thing that is new is magick and spirituality. But they are treated as if they are lesser simply for not having grand spiritual experience under their belt. People attempt to impart wisdom of the outer world they have gained here, but often I see this get undermined or even dismissed or outright attacked, simply on the premise of one's level of spiritual experience.

We are meant to guide people, not beat into their heads spiritual concepts that they failed to automatically understand when they got here, and socially punish them for not understanding something or having karma issues, or simply being human.

The forums are meant to be a welcoming place for people to learn. A library of truth open to everyone, and help guide them to Satan. Honestly... if not for the efforts of a small few and the HP, this place would not feel very welcoming nor warm. Different approaches must be used, because there are some who seem to insist on methods and approaches that don't apply to most situations with people. You're used to trolls and overly reactive people who want to start things just because, and infiltrators, but you blind yourselves to those who are here genuinely to grow. Do people here not use their senses when engaging with others? Can you not immediately know from first engagement with another if they are genuine or sinister? Retaining negative energy, not dealing with certain inner issues, or not meditating and vice versa? Is it not part of your everyday interactions?

Believe what you want, but at the end of the day, too many are relying on logic and their physical eyes, and not trusting their spiritual minds and serpents. It would not be hard to understand that what you are seeing with jrvan is someone who is just trying to do their best among louder toxic and/or overly abrasive individuals, but gets the finger pointed at him saying "you're the problem, you're not good enough". You expect immediate change overnight, and set unrealistic expectations on those who come here. If people are not taking on your advice then they must be retarded or unwilling to grow. No one seems to consider that maybe some advice doesn't work for that person, their astrology, and their situation?

The only expectations on SS is that we grow and meditate, and aid the Gods in ways we can manage. Our pace is our own, and not for others to dictate. There is no delicacy or careful hand in how many here treat newer members (especially under the magick number of 10 years...). People are treated as soldiers, not people.

It is incredibly sad that the impression that has been presented in the time I've been here, is that the only people here you can trust their word on is the clergy and the Gods, because so often people can't practice what they preach.

I'm not angry at you, NakedPluto. This isn't directed to yourself and your behavior either. You've just given me an opportunity to say how I feel and what I've observed in general.

 

[Jrvan]

You're flattered by your own dis? That explains a lot. Your wires are all crossed, and an insult sounds like a compliment to you. When you go around throwing shade at people, you're actually sending them enormous amounts of love from the depths of your twisted heart.

They don't understand this though, Aquarius. You need to inform them so they don't take it the wrong way.

For what reason do you make everything antagonistic? You seek conflict everywhere you go.

Said the same months ago *cough* *cough*

And you weren't any more correct in your assessment at that time than he is now. It's a flat out lie to say that I'm the source of all conflict when people are attacking me. You people are insane.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Well you see, I care about my people in a wider general sense. But when it comes to individuals, I'm selective and varied with how I treat people. I take it case by case. I've mentioned that I have very low care about the fate of others in certain situations. These situations that I have mentioned include ones where people have harmed me, or hypothetical ones where an individual is in my way like I mentioned with a career as the example......

I haven't once promoted lawlessness like others have claimed. This stuff about Crowley is absolutely ridiculous. I have actively spoken about the consequences of breaking the law, and how an individual's free will to choose to commit a crime doesn't negate the free will of other individuals (or the state) to punish them.....

I understand. There is a degree of ruthlessness that should be employed, not just for one's own sake, but also to ensure the prosperity of Satanism as a whole. Obviously, what is fair and just varies on a case-by-case basis.

The point with love relationships is about finding the best case for all people involved. That is why we are all throwing ideas around about the best method here.

You are right that we don't know the whole situation. It is possible that Bravera's best option is to detach, or it could be best to stay with her. We don't even know why they broke up, or if she is Satanic, etc. Many missing details all weigh on the situation.

The point with Crowley was just an exaggerated comparison referring to excessive egoism. I can understand how you find it insulting, but I also think your reactions are excessively combative towards Henu. In a broader sense, it sounds like you are generally very frustrated, and sort of lashing out.

Maybe what is confusing in this situation is that both you and Henu are making good points, and it would be otherwise good that both you and Henu, plus Tabby, contributed here. Yet, it sounds like you have gotten more angry than normal, which would then create bad outcomes.

Perhaps you are overly invested in this discussion, or maybe you have felt pressured and are letting this come out. For some reason like this, I feel your reactions became overly combative when it was not necessary.

I think you would do better by pursuing a gentler tone with your communications. If done correctly, this would not take away any value from your thoughts, but would rather increase your influence on those who read them. Try to hold back some punches, and you will see fewer punches come back at you. This is because you are dealing with your brothers and sisters, not enemies.

 

[Jrvan]

This rebellion is put towards the wrong end, it would be more fruitful to base it on a real project or subject, in depth and not artificially just as a pure reaction.

How many threads have I made to try to contribute? I do put my energies into non-reactive endeavors, quite often. People just see my fiery reactions to the hecklers, and they cringe at it. Then they try to talk me out of it, tell me to ignore it, or say that I'm the one in the wrong for defending myself - all because it is too intense and makes them uncomfortable. Well if it makes you and others so uncomfortable and you don't like seeing my ugly side then take it up with the assholes who are bringing out my ugly side, and then people will only see my beautiful side. People keep saying that I ALWAYS am at the center of drama, that I'm ALWAYS starting fights (I almost never start them), but they conveniently ignore my pleasant reactions with other people who aren't part of their posse hive mind or whatever. I'm very friendly to people, and I constantly seek harmony and have tried everything to resolve these conflicts to a peaceful end. But they just won't have it, and they won't let it end. They will keep harassing me forever because they truly believe that they are the righteous ones, and that I'm the evil bogeyman in the wrong.

Jrvan, you are perceived with an anti-hero charm as an attitude that is found many times in movies and patterns of psychology.

I don't care how I'm perceived by others. I am how I am, and I'm not going to change for others. People don't have to accept me or like me, but I won't allow them to lie about me and my words without lighting a fire under their asses.

Your motivation while may be with an aim of fairness, fails the end of this by simply targeting low preoccupations and tete-a-tete personal interactions.

We'll see. If nothing good comes of it then I'll admit you were right, but we haven't even seen the ends of it projected into the future. I believe my efforts here will echo, and I don't want to think that all of this energy was 100% wasted and fruitless. I believe something will come of it in some way, some day. I hope that it does. I think anything, good or bad, can be potentially useful to someone.

I also believe that life is largely about relationships, personally. I've struggled to deny this idea every time I wrestled with it because I didn't want it to be true, but I can't seem to logically escape the conclusion no matter how hard I try to come up with an alternative. Life outside of relationships, or without relationships, is very difficult to imagine. Besides personal development, I don't see much else.

You have received advice. If you think something is ungodly developing while other people don't see it, you are free to contact the Gods. However your attitude of perpetuated self imposing over I would say quite intimate measures is damaging and tiring.

It's tiring for me too. If you're comfortable existing in a toxic environment where you can't say anything without gatekeepers pretending to ask questions just for the purpose of instigating and fucking with you and lying about your message, then that's great for you, but I'm NOT comfortable and I don't fucking like it. They're only pissed at me because I dared to challenge them and call them out for their abuse and lies.

You warn that you may go of the forums etc, this is revealing of a problem that you need to fix. While we may not be all here very liking of each other, there is need for harmony and peace among ourselves,, ideally this should be accounted for anytime this is started.

I've tried. They won't let me. They insist on opposing me no matter what I do or say, and won't give me a break. I have come to think they have an unconscious drive to oppose me at this point that they aren't even aware of anymore, and if they stopped for a moment and questioned why they do it, I doubt they would be able to come up with a true and valid answer that isn't grasping at straws or part of their propaganda and lies they made up about me. They decided to oppose me, and they can't stop - even if they end up arguing against the truth. Since the truth would be coming from MY mouth, they would reject it and attack me on autopilot. This has happened over and over again.

As for leaving the forums, I was only trying to make a point here. I almost did before when I said I would. I didn't want to keep interacting at all because I was so sick and tired of it. I kept feeling forces trying to draw me back, and I kept resisting those forces for about a week because I wanted to do my own thing and let others here fall on their own. It was finally the High Priest's post about returning that annoyed me enough to continue. I feel a certain amount of responsibility to the forums at this point, and you have no idea how badly I would like to just abandon that responsibility sometimes. People claim I enjoy drama, but I don't. I do it to try to bring the monkeys to a higher level of consciousness and introduce new paths of thinking, and I usually pay the high price for this and they resist me with full force while kicking and screaming. It's like they are determined to remain in their dog shit jewish perceptions, and the last thing they would ever want is a fully Pagan way of thinking and perceiving. Some people are just addicted to judaism and low consciousness, even here. And I'm sure you might turn around and accuse me of similar or something, to which I'm not even going to respond because it's a silly game of trying to prove superiority of spiritual understanding or whatever. I too make mistakes, and I try to grow from them.

These are baseless attacks and this should stop, in any and all ways. Fruitfull discussion can happen, yet being that it doesn't arise, one needs to ask why and the purpose of this.

What about the baseless attacks against me? I haven't done anything wrong, and I don't deserve any of it. Say this to them too then. Why defend them, but not me? It makes no sense.

I have tried every appeal to reason that I can possibly think of. These monkeys don't want reason. They want to see me fall, and that's the entirety of what they are invested in. They don't care about the greater good of the forums, or truth, or Satan. They only care about their own vanity, egos, and insisting that they are the righteous good guys even though they are in the wrong. They will never own up to anything or take responsibility for the awful shit they have said and the poisonous lies.

Here's the maxim and the bottom line, NakedPluto. People don't want the truth, they only want to be right. I'm interested in the truth and speaking the truth, and I don't care if I'm wrong or right because I can still grow and understand more tomorrow. My ego doesn't feel existentially threatened by being wrong at the end of the day, and I acknowledge when I'm wrong like I have many times before which people have taken as weakness and tried to exploit.

 

[Jrvan]

" post_id=348660 time=1651132407 user_id=21286]

Well you see, I care about my people in a wider general sense. But when it comes to individuals, I'm selective and varied with how I treat people. I take it case by case. I've mentioned that I have very low care about the fate of others in certain situations. These situations that I have mentioned include ones where people have harmed me, or hypothetical ones where an individual is in my way like I mentioned with a career as the example......

I haven't once promoted lawlessness like others have claimed. This stuff about Crowley is absolutely ridiculous. I have actively spoken about the consequences of breaking the law, and how an individual's free will to choose to commit a crime doesn't negate the free will of other individuals (or the state) to punish them.....

I understand. There is a degree of ruthlessness that should be employed, not just for one's own sake, but also to ensure the prosperity of Satanism as a whole. Obviously, what is fair and just varies on a case-by-case basis.

The point with love relationships is about finding the best case for all people involved. That is why we are all throwing ideas around about the best method here.

You are right that we don't know the whole situation. It is possible that Bravera's best option is to detach, or it could be best to stay with her. We don't even know why they broke up, or if she is Satanic, etc. Many missing details all weigh on the situation.

The point with Crowley was just an exaggerated comparison referring to excessive egoism. I can understand how you find it insulting, but I also think your reactions are excessively combative towards Henu. In a broader sense, it sounds like you are generally very frustrated, and sort of lashing out.

Maybe what is confusing in this situation is that both you and Henu are making good points, and it would be otherwise good that both you and Henu, plus Tabby, contributed here. Yet, it sounds like you have gotten more angry than normal, which would then create bad outcomes.

Perhaps you are overly invested in this discussion, or maybe you have felt pressured and are letting this come out. For some reason like this, I feel your reactions became overly combative when it was not necessary.

I think you would do better by pursuing a gentler tone with your communications. If done correctly, this would not take away any value from your thoughts, but would rather increase your influence on those who read them. Try to hold back some punches, and you will see fewer punches come back at you. This is because you are dealing with your brothers and sisters, not enemies.

You're fully correct in your assessment, Blitzkreig. It was the final straw on the camel's back as the saying goes. I'm very fed up with all of the antagonism towards me when I haven't even done anything to these people (the usual suspects), and I only ever fought back against their lies and abuse. It's hard for me to understand when people can't just admit that they messed up and move on. Maybe if they knew how forgiving I am then they would be more likely to just drop this campaign against me? I just don't get it. All they need to do is back off.

I also finished my Sun square a few days ago which was targeting karma and whatnot, and the effects have been interesting. I feel very empowered, very much more secure within myself with less of a tendency to doubt or second guess myself, more conviction, and perhaps a bit less refrain. I don't think I would have reacted to Henu in this way prior. It feels like a big change within myself.

 

[Draconi666]

It was only half a month, but each day was so full of life. She had problems, serious ones, I wanted to show her my strength and intelligence, that I could help lift her out of this pain. I do believe she really did like me, maybe it was even true when she said she loved me. I was sure I had found love..

I looked past all of her problems, and honestly I feel sick and drained right now, my stomach is queasy and losing her made me cry. But, I have a renewed hope in finding true love.. a renewed hope in chasing my goals with the full strength of whatever youthfulness and soul I have remaining.

I thank the Gods for guiding me through this relationship, I won't give up on love.

Me also longing for love long time already, but thoughts are coming in this kind that If all experience is from inside no matter what and with whom, and inside I’m only one, so why I should need another person, even someone is around me, inside I am anyway alone, and inside there is place only for one person, and again all experience is only from inside. These thoughts come when I start to think about love :/ it’s strange, but it is true.

 

[NinRick]

For what reason do you make everything antagonistic? You seek conflict everywhere you go.

Said the same months ago *cough* *cough*

And you weren't any more correct in your assessment at that time than he is now. It's a flat out lie to say that I'm the source of all conflict when people are attacking me. You people are insane.

We are insane, riiight.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

What is the purpose of that? What does it accomplish? Where does it bring you, or the people you speak to?

Wait, was Jrvan actually serious there? I even made a funny reply to him, now he's gonna think I'm a ladyboy? Lol

In his reply to me he did say he wasn't serious, so I take it that was his attempt at sarcasm.

Perhaps I had been too serious to question it.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

My reply to Aquarius was sarcastic, but also playful in nature and intent. I thought maybe he would appreciate it. Hopefully that answers that part of your question. For the other part, it's a loaded question and my answer is to go fuck yourself.

My apologies, I had misunderstood your intent.

Let me reflect upon this, so I no longer needlessly stain my name with foolish judgement and behavior.

The standard I speak of to others must be upheld by myself first and foremost.

Hail Satan!

 

[Jack]

Dude it was half a month grow the hell up. It sounds like you have abandonment issues. And in black terms stop trying to be captain save a hoe. I can’t believe hetero relationships are like this.

I wanted to share a story about me chasing one of my most important goals. I will never "grow" out of this honestly. I love flirting and dating, but I only want one women. If I pick someone, I'm gonna put everything I can until I'm sure it's over.

I want to, like our great civilizers, build great families and kingdoms, I have to start with my own. If I had the right women in my life, I know I would be greatly empowered, but I will not let my anyone impact my spiritual growth negatively, I've got enough of a problem dealing with my own self.

Thanks for your concern, but I like to find the faults in what others might find as logic. How many billions of children were borne out of the labor of love? How many great men chose to be a POWERFUL man for his Beautiful yet less powerful women? That should be every man's responsibility, it gives true respect, honor, and alignment with what Nature has bestowed to us.

Then you need to take this situation seriously and look for a woman that does not have issues. Imagine if she has issues around your children or abuses them.

You need to find a woman that isn't traumatized, one that doesn't have vices ,wants kids, is successful, Competent, has an optimistic and positive mindset. You don't want a woman that is traumatized or has issues.

You don't have to waste your time trying to fix a woman. Just like you can't turn a hoe into a housewife you cannot trust a woman who is traumatized.

Yes ,this is a very sad reality of this world but with the situation we are all in you don't want to waste unnecessary time and energy on fruitless endeavors.

We have the tools to find a very compatible person who does not have issues. So why not use it ?

 

[Jack]

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I think developing discernment about following advice is also a larger part of being a mature adult. It tests one's character and what one is developing himself into.

Knowing yourself involves performing action and discovering things about yourself and developing your character along the way.

Whatever advice the OP takes from his thread he will have to personally deal with the consequences and learn about himself.

People who are compatible with each other do not have situations like he described. If he takes the wrong advice and gets back with her and experiences relationship issues continuously he will then realize that the advice that he took was wrong and that the opposite advice was right.

He will then not repeat the same thing again.

I personally have a hunch that the OP is an intelligent dude who will figure it out quickly and do workings to release all bonds with her, clean himself of any trauma and attract a compatible woman.

The edgy "I will purposefully put my hand in the fire even when I know it burns to try to affirm that it burns" advice falls on deaf ears. This community is composed of Intelligent people who can take intelligent mature decisions.

We are our Choices in the end.

If you're tapped in ,no matter what happens life will turn out beautiful for you. For this there is no doubt.

 

[Sunny]

It was only half a month, but each day was so full of life. She had problems, serious ones, I wanted to show her my strength and intelligence, that I could help lift her out of this pain. I do believe she really did like me, maybe it was even true when she said she loved me. I was sure I had found love..

I looked past all of her problems, and honestly I feel sick and drained right now, my stomach is queasy and losing her made me cry. But, I have a renewed hope in finding true love.. a renewed hope in chasing my goals with the full strength of whatever youthfulness and soul I have remaining.

I thank the Gods for guiding me through this relationship, I won't give up on love.

Do you have a stable job? If not, maybe she was insecure and didn't trust you.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

I think developing discernment about following advice is also a larger part of being a mature adult. It tests one's character and what one is developing himself into.

Knowing yourself involves performing action and discovering things about yourself and developing your character along the way.

Whatever advice the OP takes from his thread he will have to personally deal with the consequences and learn about himself.

People who are compatible with each other do not have situations like he described. If he takes the wrong advice and gets back with her and experiences relationship issues continuously he will then realize that the advice that he took was wrong and that the opposite advice was right.

He will then not repeat the same thing again.

I personally have a hunch that the OP is an intelligent dude who will figure it out quickly and do workings to release all bonds with her, clean himself of any trauma and attract a compatible woman.

The edgy "I will purposefully put my hand in the fire even when I know it burns to try to affirm that it burns" advice falls on deaf ears. This community is composed of Intelligent people who can take intelligent mature decisions.

We are our Choices in the end.

If you're tapped in ,no matter what happens life will turn out beautiful for you. For this there is no doubt.

I believe you are correct here, and you make some good points.

Something is wrong in the relationship, likely too many things to make it worthwhile to salvage. Of course, emotions are involved, which makes this more difficult to be objective. Despite what this thread has become, Bravera was wise to seek outside counsel, for that reason. Ideally, he can take the correct action without learning the hard way.

In regards to discernment, this is totally true and why everyone needs to work with their upper chakras to better sense reality. For example, I am fond of Virgo energy, due to its ability to tap into both the air and earth element. In this way, it is able to problem solve and analyze effectively. Not that the other Mercury signs don't have their benefits, just that Virgo is notable in that way.

 

[Jrvan]

You flatter me

You're flattered by your own dis? That explains a lot. Your wires are all crossed, and an insult sounds like a compliment to you. When you go around throwing shade at people, you're actually sending them enormous amounts of love from the depths of your twisted heart.

They don't understand this though, Aquarius. You need to inform them so they don't take it the wrong way.

Well he pointed out that I could be in high school, that's like saying "you're younger", and me being a beautiful miss i'm flattered by it. Kisses

Oh now I get it :lol:

 

[Jrvan]

" post_id=348808 time=1651169877 user_id=21286]

I think developing discernment about following advice is also a larger part of being a mature adult. It tests one's character and what one is developing himself into.

Knowing yourself involves performing action and discovering things about yourself and developing your character along the way.

Whatever advice the OP takes from his thread he will have to personally deal with the consequences and learn about himself.

People who are compatible with each other do not have situations like he described. If he takes the wrong advice and gets back with her and experiences relationship issues continuously he will then realize that the advice that he took was wrong and that the opposite advice was right.

He will then not repeat the same thing again.

I personally have a hunch that the OP is an intelligent dude who will figure it out quickly and do workings to release all bonds with her, clean himself of any trauma and attract a compatible woman.

The edgy "I will purposefully put my hand in the fire even when I know it burns to try to affirm that it burns" advice falls on deaf ears. This community is composed of Intelligent people who can take intelligent mature decisions.

We are our Choices in the end.

If you're tapped in ,no matter what happens life will turn out beautiful for you. For this there is no doubt.

I believe you are correct here, and you make some good points.

Something is wrong in the relationship, likely too many things to make it worthwhile to salvage. Of course, emotions are involved, which makes this more difficult to be objective. Despite what this thread has become, Bravera was wise to seek outside counsel, for that reason. Ideally, he can take the correct action without learning the hard way.

In regards to discernment, this is totally true and why everyone needs to work with their upper chakras to better sense reality. For example, I am fond of Virgo energy, due to its ability to tap into both the air and earth element. In this way, it is able to problem solve and analyze effectively. Not that the other Mercury signs don't have their benefits, just that Virgo is notable in that way.

It could be a dead end as Jack suggests, and I believe that for some people it could be good for them to explore that path to that dead end in order to learn from it for themselves (making their own mistakes), and also because sometimes people aren't ready to let go and the temporary refuge from loneliness might be helpful until they are ready to move on. There's also the possibility that this woman was a good match for Bravera and they could have a future together which is what he believed, and they only left because of their own fickleness or some other trivial thing. We just don't know, and that's why I keep saying that Bravera knows his own situation best and we have to trust him to be wise enough to make the right decisions for his own life that he understands the in's and out's of better than we do. Maybe influencing the relationship to reignite and continue wouldn't be a dead end like Jack suggests. How are we to know? Jack can't say that with 100% certainty because he doesn't know. He and everyone else here, myself included, can only make assumptions at best.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

There's also the possibility that this woman was a good match for Bravera and they could have a future together which is what he believed, and they only left because of their own fickleness or some other trivial thing. We just don't know, and that's why I keep saying that Bravera knows his own situation best and we have to trust him to be wise enough to make the right decisions for his own life that he understands the in's and out's of better than we do.

What would be the point on seeking advice from others if it is said that the individual themselves known best?

Not to mention, when a person is making a mistake, can it really be said they do indeed know best?

One might say we can only assume, however that is an assumption on your part. While it might be difficult to know with true certainty, a lot more can be understood and inferred from people by an advanced SS even if no information is given.

The right answers can be found even if almost nothing is known through the utilizing of psychic ability.

In simpler cases it can be seen blatantly by looking at the situation at hand without requiring any psychic sight, but simply drawing from experience and accumulated understanding.

Regardless what one thinks of Jack, we can all agree Blitz has enough of both wisdom and advancement to make accurate and wise judgements on most subjects, and is absolutely qualified to give rights or wrongs and to give advices which are worth listening to.

Not to mention it is possible to infer insights into things beyond what is given to find the necessary understanding required to answer and advice accurately.

It is a basic principle that advanced SS do use, both consciously and subconsciously to advice and answer questions, precisely because an accurate answer cannot be given if one is limited to assumption on which to draw their conclusions.

Hail Satan!

 

[Jrvan]

There's also the possibility that this woman was a good match for Bravera and they could have a future together which is what he believed, and they only left because of their own fickleness or some other trivial thing. We just don't know, and that's why I keep saying that Bravera knows his own situation best and we have to trust him to be wise enough to make the right decisions for his own life that he understands the in's and out's of better than we do.

What would be the point on seeking advice from others if it is said that the individual themselves known best?

Not to mention, when a person is making a mistake, can it really be said they do indeed know best?

One might say we can only assume, however that is an assumption on your part. While it might be difficult to know with true certainty, a lot more can be understood and inferred from people by an advanced SS even if no information is given.

The right answers can be found even if almost nothing is known through the utilizing of psychic ability.

In simpler cases it can be seen blatantly by looking at the situation at hand without requiring any psychic sight, but simply drawing from experience and accumulated understanding.

Regardless what one thinks of Jack, we can all agree Blitz has enough of both wisdom and advancement to make accurate and wise judgements on most subjects, and is absolutely qualified to give rights or wrongs and to give advices which are worth listening to.

Not to mention it is possible to infer insights into things beyond what is given to find the necessary understanding required to answer and advice accurately.

It is a basic principle that advanced SS do use, both consciously and subconsciously to advice and answer questions, precisely because an accurate answer cannot be given if one is limited to assumption on which to draw their conclusions.

Hail Satan!

There's a variety of different advice for the OP to choose from. I thought it was unnecessary (and rude if I'm being completely honest) for someone to shoot down a particular set of advice in the absence of details as was already acknowledged.

How do we know that it would be a mistake though? I think the mistake is having that as the starting assumption (that it would be a mistake) when we don't know anything about the woman. All Gentiles can be guided to grow as well, and it seemed from what Bravera said that he felt in control and confident that he could guide her and desired to do so. If it's a question of compatibility then Bravera could check the synastry between them like one other person suggested iirc, and again those details are unknown to us.

I hope this elaboration helps. Also, in case it wasn't clear, I want to mention that I wasn't trying to contradict what Blitzkreig said nor undermine his authority and expertise - I was just adding on.

 

[Jrvan]

My reply to Aquarius was sarcastic, but also playful in nature and intent. I thought maybe he would appreciate it. Hopefully that answers that part of your question. For the other part, it's a loaded question and my answer is to go fuck yourself.

My apologies, I had misunderstood your intent.

Let me reflect upon this, so I no longer needlessly stain my name with foolish judgement and behavior.

The standard I speak of to others must be upheld by myself first and foremost.

Hail Satan!

Apology accepted.

 

[Jack]

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I think developing discernment about following advice is also a larger part of being a mature adult. It tests one's character and what one is developing himself into.

Knowing yourself involves performing action and discovering things about yourself and developing your character along the way.

Whatever advice the OP takes from his thread he will have to personally deal with the consequences and learn about himself.

People who are compatible with each other do not have situations like he described. If he takes the wrong advice and gets back with her and experiences relationship issues continuously he will then realize that the advice that he took was wrong and that the opposite advice was right.

He will then not repeat the same thing again.

I personally have a hunch that the OP is an intelligent dude who will figure it out quickly and do workings to release all bonds with her, clean himself of any trauma and attract a compatible woman.

The edgy "I will purposefully put my hand in the fire even when I know it burns to try to affirm that it burns" advice falls on deaf ears. This community is composed of Intelligent people who can take intelligent mature decisions.

We are our Choices in the end.

If you're tapped in ,no matter what happens life will turn out beautiful for you. For this there is no doubt.

I believe you are correct here, and you make some good points.

Something is wrong in the relationship, likely too many things to make it worthwhile to salvage. Of course, emotions are involved, which makes this more difficult to be objective. Despite what this thread has become, Bravera was wise to seek outside counsel, for that reason. Ideally, he can take the correct action without learning the hard way.

In regards to discernment, this is totally true and why everyone needs to work with their upper chakras to better sense reality. For example, I am fond of Virgo energy, due to its ability to tap into both the air and earth element. In this way, it is able to problem solve and analyze effectively. Not that the other Mercury signs don't have their benefits, just that Virgo is notable in that way.

Men in general just make a lot of bad decisions because of having no guidance in life. A lot of men make promises to women that aren't compatible with them and they are then shocked when the relationship does not work out. Since they've been taught also to be "a man of their word" they can't let go and create their own circle of doom where they keep going back to a failed relationship because they've given their word to this woman.

Men in today's day and age do not have any big cause to give their allegiance to. They have no purpose in their lives and they walk through life aimlessly in this Consumerist culture.

And since men need a purpose in life ,most men have made Love their purpose and given it an idealistic meaning in their minds due to the lack of a real purpose in life.

I was in a relationship with a woman once and she was just really insecure and had serious issues. She was just completely obsessed with me and demanded that I give hours and hours of attention to her.

I once made a passing comment about her Friend looking cute just as a joke and this bothered her to the point that she had me block her friend on all social media's. She had an issue with me not giving her attention and demanded that I stop grinding and just marry her and settle down with her..

Since I had made the mistake of telling her that I would always be with her at the beginning of the relationship when everything was fun and dandy (the honeymoon phase) I could not predict what would happen next. That vow that I gave her also created a Karmic bond.

That woman wad most definitely not compatible with me or my future. I had to break up with her. Then I had to break the Karmic bonds ,remove trauma from the both of us. I also did a working for her so that she attracted a man that would take care of her completely and gave her what she wanted. Which manifested and I got the news 1 month after id completed that working.

I had to do it because I'd promised that I'd take care of her. But I couldn't so I had to facilitate another man to take care of her the way she wanted. I had to break thr Karmic bonds also.

These mistakes men make destroy their entire lives. If I didn't have the Tantric tools that I have ,I could have continued to give her what she wanted ,rejected my own wants and destroyed my life just because of my word.

SS atleast have the tools to do all this. The average man is in a perpetual cycle of doom in terms of his relationships.

 

[Jrvan]

That woman wad most definitely not compatible with me or my future. I had to break up with her. Then I had to break the Karmic bonds ,remove trauma from the both of us. I also did a working for her so that she attracted a man that would take care of her completely and gave her what she wanted. Which manifested and I got the news 1 month after id completed that working.

Is that really true?

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

Men in general just make a lot of bad decisions because of having no guidance in life. A lot of men make promises to women that aren't compatible with them and they are then shocked when the relationship does not work out. Since they've been taught also to be "a man of their word" they can't let go and create their own circle of doom where they keep going back to a failed relationship because they've given their word to this woman.

Men in today's day and age do not have any big cause to give their allegiance to. They have no purpose in their lives and they walk through life aimlessly in this Consumerist culture.

And since men need a purpose in life ,most men have made Love their purpose and given it an idealistic meaning in their minds due to the lack of a real purpose in life.

I was in a relationship with a woman once and she was just really insecure and had serious issues. She was just completely obsessed with me and demanded that I give hours and hours of attention to her.

I once made a passing comment about her Friend looking cute just as a joke and this bothered her to the point that she had me block her friend on all social media's. She had an issue with me not giving her attention and demanded that I stop grinding and just marry her and settle down with her..

Since I had made the mistake of telling her that I would always be with her at the beginning of the relationship when everything was fun and dandy (the honeymoon phase) I could not predict what would happen next. That vow that I gave her also created a Karmic bond.

That woman wad most definitely not compatible with me or my future. I had to break up with her. Then I had to break the Karmic bonds ,remove trauma from the both of us. I also did a working for her so that she attracted a man that would take care of her completely and gave her what she wanted. Which manifested and I got the news 1 month after id completed that working.

I had to do it because I'd promised that I'd take care of her. But I couldn't so I had to facilitate another man to take care of her the way she wanted. I had to break thr Karmic bonds also.

These mistakes men make destroy their entire lives. If I didn't have the Tantric tools that I have ,I could have continued to give her what she wanted ,rejected my own wants and destroyed my life just because of my word.

SS atleast have the tools to do all this. The average man is in a perpetual cycle of doom in terms of his relationships.

Very good post.

I have experienced exactly the same in the past, and used a very similar method to fix this, break the karmic bonds and clear myself from this binding attachment that was in manifestation no different than a curse upon my soul.

 

[Jack]

That woman wad most definitely not compatible with me or my future. I had to break up with her. Then I had to break the Karmic bonds ,remove trauma from the both of us. I also did a working for her so that she attracted a man that would take care of her completely and gave her what she wanted. Which manifested and I got the news 1 month after id completed that working.

Is that really true?

Yes it is. Why ?

 

[Wilson Percival Higgsbury]

It was an experience you've had that not many have. Be grateful to have had such a wonderful relationship and continue your journey because it's not the end. Many women will come and many other wonderful moments too. There are powers greater than you and me and perhaps it was not meant to be, only to have experienced it. You will find another some day and laugh back at your previous relationship, it's just a matter of time. You'll be okay.

 

[Jrvan]

That woman wad most definitely not compatible with me or my future. I had to break up with her. Then I had to break the Karmic bonds ,remove trauma from the both of us. I also did a working for her so that she attracted a man that would take care of her completely and gave her what she wanted. Which manifested and I got the news 1 month after id completed that working.

Is that really true?

Yes it is. Why ?

Curiosity.